P1X4R: Your Arnold has arrived!!!

[Gruson]

Now go home and take pictures for us!!!

:)

[RichardW]

:laugh:

[Gruson]

He's probably so excited that he read the message.. did not reply, and then darted for his car. ;)

[cap70]

Hahahahaha, kinda like the movie "Truman Show".

Go grab it, Truman! :laugh:

[P1X4R]

just got home!!! taking pics right now.. hehe.. i sneaked out from work. :)

[cap70]

can't wait!!!!!!

[grant666uk]

OOoo I cant wait. fire up the pics.

[Wooktroop]

http://imagescommerce.bcentral.com/merchantfiles/4732387/CINT850d.jpg

http://imagescommerce.bcentral.com/merchantfiles/4732387/CINT850a.jpg

http://imagescommerce.bcentral.com/merchantfiles/4732387/CINT850e.jpg :eplus2:

[BobaFett02]

Funny! wook:(

[Gruson]

Remember, NO FLASH!!!

:)

What are you thoughts even before you take pics?

[cap70]

say something, damn it! :laugh:

post 1 if you like it a lot, 2 if it's ok, 3 if isn't good! But say something!:laugh:

[BobaFett02]

Im Tired... 11 38 pm... and im trying to stay away to see this beauty! :)

[grant666uk]

Im Tired... 11 38 pm... and im trying to stay away to see this beauty! :)

boba just go to your bed. I will tell you all about it tomorrow. Dont worry mate.

[Gruson]

I figured P1 would at least said, THIS PIECE ROCKS!!!!!

...tell us your initial impression of him...do you like it as much as T-X?

Is it bigger than her?

[BobaFett02]

Lol, G!... ur keeping me awake on MSN!
Just need to see, a ickle look! :(

[grant666uk]

Hope it does not come out the box with hair that looks like it has a toffee apple stuck in it. Arghhhhh

[Gianco]

Maybe P1 fainted! Could be for the impressive statue or because he got a $1200 crap! :laugh: Let us know damn it! :mad:

[P1X4R]

sorry guys!!! i had to drive back to work before somebody missed me! LOL. i didn't want any users missing their favorite sysadmin! :)

[sithboy]

Hey everyone!

I received mine this morning and it took me almost an hour to unpack it and set it up! It was packed incredibly well -- the box it comes in is HUGE! And it was almost 40 lbs. I would have taken pics but my brother borrowed my camera for his trip -- ack!

The T-850 is awesome -- I love it! It literally towers over the rest of my 1/4 scale figures. It is so tall in fact, I had to move the upper glass shelf to it's highect level just to fit him in the display case -- I was sweating there for a bit. It said he was 24 in. tall, but that is with out the base -- it totals 27 on the base!

I think the headscupt is dead on -- it definitely looks better in normal lighting vs the lighting at Comic Con. I think it is hands down the best likeness on any statue -- add the glasses and that thing is like an Arnold Mini-Me. :buttrock:

Anyway, I've jabbered enough -- now let's see them pics! :)

[cap70]

Damn it, P1X! Tell then that you are not feeling good and want to go home for Arnie! :laugh:

[cap70]

Hey everyone!

I received mine this morning and it took me almost an hour to unpack it and set it up! It was packed incredibly well -- the box it comes in is HUGE! And it was almost 40 lbs. I would have taken pics but my brother borrowed my camera for his trip -- ack!

The T-850 is awesome -- I love it! It literally towers over the rest of my 1/4 scale figures. It is so tall in fact, I had to move the upper glass shelf to it's highect level just to fit him in the display case -- I was sweating there for a bit. It said he was 24 in. tall, but that is with out the base -- it totals 27 on the base!

I think the headscupt is dead on -- it definitely looks better in normal lighting vs the lighting at Comic Con. I think it is hands down the best likeness on any statue -- add the glasses and that thing is like an Arnold Mini-Me. :buttrock:

Anyway, I've jabbered enough -- now let's see them pics! :)

AWESOME!! I really hoped it was taller then the TX and looks like it is!! :buttrock:

Where the pictures?????

[Gruson]

Thanks Sith for some information. Good to here he it is 27 inches!

Now,

How does the hair look? I was worried it may look too thin...

Do the eyes look real?

How is the quality of the shotgun?

P1, your thoughts?

[P1X4R]

ok, my first impressions before i post the pics.

i was floored by how realistic arnold's face was! it was a bit creepy actually! :laugh: there are a lot of details and the kind of quality i've come to expect from this line. a job well done IMO! i must say that the head is very delicate! i can see how easily damaged it can get so be careful when handling Arnie! as for the size compared to the TX.. i am happy to say that he is A LOT taller than her by almost 2 inches (from my untrained eye). it's hard to tell from my pics though so keep that in mind. his shotgun is very cool! great wood-like finish on the handle!! also, you can actually pump it but again i wouldn't advise it. this is strictly a display piece.

am i satisfied with this? YES!! :buttrock:

is it perfect? of course not! maybe it's because of the nature of the materials it's made from but there is a bit of high maintenance involved. i think i'll look into investing an acrylic case for it. i can't stress enough how his head can be so prone to damage. a slight letdown but not enough to disappoint tremendously. so the bit of maintenance i am referring to is the "powder kit" it comes with. yes, you heard me right. :) this is one high class "doll". :laugh: he also comes with his trademark sunglasses but i am hesitant to put it on him for fear of ripping his "skin" off. remember the movie Darkman? hehe.

let's see.. what else.. so a small comment on human faces in general.. coming from an industry that "simulates" these types of characteristics i know how very complicated it can be. well, enough chat.. let me download the pics from my camera!

[Gruson]

Thanks P1!

Now...did you ALREADY damage his face? ;)

I want to buy an acrylic case for protection as well. Let me know if you know a site that sells them and what size we should get....

[thx217]

U Got Me Wook!! U Got Me Goood!!! Don"t Do That Again!....... :banghead:

[cap70]

Thanks P1!
I have to admit I like everything you said except this special care you need with it. It's made out of sillicon??

[thx217]

After reading P1X's first impression on the size of the Arnie. I wonder how tall will the Predator be.....

[P1X4R]

here we go!!!

[P1X4R]

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[P1X4R]

......

[P1X4R]

.......

[Gruson]

Yeah,

The Cinemaquette Predator will be HUGE since it is 1/3 scale....should be around 29-30 inches, without the base....

[P1X4R]

........

[P1X4R]

.........

[P1X4R]

xxxxx

[P1X4R]

xxxxxx

[P1X4R]

xxxxxxx

[P1X4R]

!!!!!

[P1X4R]

*****

[P1X4R]

ok, that's all of them. yeah, yeah.. i take crappy pics! this has to be seen in person to truly appreciate Arnold's likeness! :buttrock:

[Emperor'sGuard]

I wonder if Cinemaquette has any plans on doing a 1/4 scale Tony Montana, cause I hate to see what happens when they ship it with that white powder :laugh:

[RichardW]

That first picture of Arnold in the box looked creepy, like you had him in a coffin. :laugh: Thanks for the pictures. Looks great!

[Gruson]

None with shades on? :)

...and open the jacket up all the way!

This piece is HUGE!! I thought the Predator bust was big but this towers above it. Very nice.

His face looks best in the last couple of pics. Lighting is always key. Hair looks a bit short though..

I am sure it looks great in person. Two more days until mine arrives.....going to be a long wait.

[thx217]

Base on the great pics from P1. The only downside of the maquette is the hair STYLE(Made him looks like a Chinese),I sure it looks ten time better in person. besides that, BEAUTIFUL! AWESOME PIECE!

Congrats P1!

[Gruson]

This is the best pic IMO:

http://66.98.242.87/~admin11/attachment.php?attachmentid=11751

With the shades on, he will look even better. ;)

Something about the hair is bugging me though...oh well, I will see it in person and then decide.

[P1X4R]

I wonder if Cinemaquette has any plans on doing a 1/4 scale Tony Montana, cause I hate to see what happens when they ship it with that white powder :laugh:

LOL. exactly what i was thinking! hey kids, don't mistake this for drugs.. bad idea!

[cap70]

Ok, thanks for the pictures, P1X! :thumbs2:

But I have to say I didn't like it that much, it for sure looks better in person, and I would love to see it before they ship it to me, but I'm afraid I will cancel my order asap. Maybe down the road after I see him personally I change my mind and order him again. :)
In the pictures on Cinemaquette site, he looks better. I don't like his eyes, he looks kind of sad. His hair line looks weird on the sides, kind of unnatural and too long. His Legs are strange too, but may be the pictures. And this powder thing, damn, what a BIG let down it was for me. Sure, it may be the best overall likeness of Arnie yet(and it should be for $1200), but I dunno if I would like to cope with it's down sides.
Glad you loved it, that's what matters, Rock on! :thumbs2:
But you just saved me $1250 for a while, or until I see it in person. Even tough I really wanted to like this thing since I'm a huge Terminator fan :(

[P1X4R]

yup, lighting is very key. i didn't take any with flash because i know it'll just make it look very bad. i'm sure if these pictures were taken by a professional it would look sooooo much better! i'm just an amateur at best.

[P1X4R]

cap, sorry it didn't impress you enough. i should have gotten that charles dude to take the pics for me. :) in any case, i'm quite happy with my purchase. another one to add to my ever growing collection!

[Wooktroop]

so let me get this right, this doll has make-up on? i can see the powderline where the face and neck meet in this pic, and it also comes with some for touching up?

http://img283.imageshack.us/img283/9526/dsc033719tt.jpg

great pic sequence, it was like i was there with you opening it :laugh:

[C1eaN]

Gotta agree w/ Cap on this one. I couldn't afford this either way but I think the Attakus piece nailed the likeness better. Eyes look close together and inset a bit.

Not WAY off but not DEAD ON either. I would see it as a value decision....

Attakus piece in 1/5 scale for $300

or

Cinamaquette in 1/3 for $1500

...bang for buck you know my choice.


I was hoping to see a piece that made people go WOW as they entered the room. Based on the pics it is massive and very nice but not $1500 nice imho

If P1 offered me this one or the TX for free.... I'd take the TX....

congrats tho if you like it....after all, that is all that matters...

[cap70]

cap, sorry it didn't impress you enough. i should have gotten that charles dude to take the pics for me. :) in any case, i'm quite happy with my purchase. another one to add to my ever growing collection!

Awesome, P1X! :thumbs2:
That's what matters and I'm prety sure it's a nice piece overall. The powder thing it's a BIG let down for me. I dunno if I can overcome this aspect, even if I see the statue in person and liking the statue overall. I'm OK with statue with cloths, but this powder care is too much. I will wait for the Cinemaquette T-800. :)

[thx217]

I think this is the one I wanted. Check out the distance between Arnie's jaw line and the ear in the senond pic(And the hair style of course). They scrap the head model on the prototype.(Which is a bad call)
http://imagescommerce.bcentral.com/merchantfiles/4732387/CINT850d.jpg

http://imagescommerce.bcentral.com/merchantfiles/4732387/CINT850a.jpg

[grant666uk]

thanks for the pics mate. I am waiting to see the Pred and Alien.

[wolverinejedi007]

How did you get the Gov of Cali to come to your house and lay down in a box so you could take pics???
And what did you do to his hands???

Its just awsome what some politicians will do for money...

[P1X4R]

thanks for the pics mate. I am waiting to see the Pred and Alien.

cool! when those come around i'll have pics for those too! it probably won't be till next year though. :thumbs2:

[Gruson]

Again,

I will wait until I receive mine in person before I decide.

However, just from pics, I prefer the $300 Attakus piece.

They better not give me a hassle when I try to return it....again, this is assuming I do not like it in person....here's hoping my Arnold has better hair though! ;)

[Gruson]

P1,

Make sure to take one tonight with his shades on for us.

[P1X4R]

P1,

Make sure to take one tonight with his shades on for us.

will do Gruson! maybe covering his sad "i pity the foo" eyes will invoke an "hasta la vista, baby!" impression! :laugh:

[sithboy]

Wow -- it's really true -- beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think this looks just like Arnold, where I didn't think the Attakus was that close at all.
Funny thing is, in photos, the expression looks a bit different than when I look at it in person -- must be the lighting as always.

I do think it is best to get a case for it though, as I would not want it to get all dusty. As is, I think Cinemaquette did a great job.

And thanks for all the great pics, P1X!

[cap70]

Again,

I will wait until I receive mine in person before I decide.

However, just from pics, I prefer the $300 Attakus piece.

They better not give me a hassle when I try to return it....again, this is assuming I do not like it in person....here's hoping my Arnold has better hair though! ;)

They did cut too much the hair in the front too. If you looks the side pics P1X took, you can see his hair following his head shape, in an oval way. In the Cinemaquette site pictures , his hair looks way better, less uniform and more natural(and also bigger in the front).

And again, the powder to keep the fragile sillicon skin in check it's a BIG no to me.

[thx217]

Well, the pics never do justice to these kind of stuff. I'm sure people will be stun if they see it in person for the first time.

[Gruson]

delete

[Gruson]

True....most of the Sideshow Luke pics look HORRIBLE ..but in person, I love the piece. :)

Come on Friday!!!!

I will take plenty of pics of both Attakus and Cinemaquette versions.

[cap70]

Agreed, even tough Luke's "hair" looks good in the pictures. And he don't need make up to keep his "skin" up to date. :)

Hey, maybe Arnie just got a bad hair day! :laugh:
Looking forward for more pictures.

[P1X4R]

yeah Gruson!!! Pics!!

cap, i wouldn't dare take out my clippers! this is a "piece de resistance" mon ami. :laugh:

[sithboy]

It looks even better with the shades on -- once they are on, it BECOMES the Terminator. I'm going to keep the shades on my T-850! :cool:

[Gir]

It bothers me how often the final product doesn't measure up to the prototype in this collectibles business. I don't understand it one bit.

[RichardW]

My biggest problem with this piece is the zippers. They look out of scale with what a zipper should be. I'm sure they wanted real zippers and used the smallest they could find, but they look almost as big as his nose.

I'm not trying to rain on your parade, P1X4R. Still looks like a nice piece overall, just too expensive for me.

[P1X4R]

My biggest problem with this piece is the zippers. They look out of scale with what a zipper should be. I'm sure they wanted real zippers and used the smallest they could find, but they look almost as big as his nose.

I'm not trying to rain on your parade, P1X4R. Still looks like a nice piece overall, just too expensive for me.

not at all. i completely agree with you here. it definitely does lessen its realism effect. also, i'll need to rough up his leather jacket (especially the arms) a bit to give it a more worn look.

Punk 1: Nice night for a walk, eh?
The Terminator: Nice night for a walk.
Punk 2: Wash day tomorrow. Nothing clean, right?
The Terminator: Nothing clean, right.
Punk 1: This guy's a couple beers short of a six-pack!
The Terminator: Your clothes. Give them to me, now!

:laugh:

[cap70]

Just got an email from Cinemaquette, finnaly!
And they do NOT accept it back for a full refund, so consider this when your order. Best thing to do is to see it in person before you buy it.
Which is pretty damn LAME, if you ask me, since we are talking about a $1200 piece here. I'm afraid they won't last in this business with this policy. They should take some lessons frm Sideshow about what customer service really it's about. :mad:

[Gruson]

WHAT?!?

I am not going to accept the package then, I will RETURN TO SENDER and will contact my credit card company.

For $1200, I am not going to even risk opening it up if it's not perfect and then getting stuck with it....great...another hassle to deal with.

[cap70]

G, you heard me right. You have PM.

[RichardW]

That's too bad about their policy. You would think with high-end collectibles like this, they would be more open to guaranteed satisfaction.

[P1X4R]

that blows! unfortunate they're like that. cap, can you post their email response?

[nexus]

Main thing is that you're happy with it P1X4R. What is the skin made of? It looks like a kind of rubber/latex -- like they sculpt the face underneath and put on a thin layer of latex then paint. Which is kinda cool.

For now, think I'm gonna stay in the Sideshow camp and see how things go there. Cinemaquette is just a little too pricey and untested. Plus the pix of Aragorn looked horrible.

[Gruson]

Another question,

What happens to silicone over 5 years or so? Will his face start falling off?

[cap70]

that blows! unfortunate they're like that. cap, can you post their email response?

I asked them if they would give me a full refund in case I didn't like it. If yes, them they could keep my order. That was last week. Today, I sent an email asking them to answer me and to tell them why mine didn't ship yet, since I was one of the very first to order it and many of my friends had it shipped already."

Here's their answer:

"Dear C,

Apologies for the delayed reply. Your Cinemaquette order was one of the first to go out. However, we do not have a return policy similar to your request. We offer complete customer satisfaction should there be any defective features that were overlooked. If you have a chance to see one that your friends have ordered and decide to order one, we will gladly try to make yours priority on the next available shipment. Again, apologies for the delayed response. Thank you.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
Cinemaquette"

[Wooktroop]

this just goes to show all these companies making movie related collectables should stay away from trying to mimic humans. i do however think their robot terminator chick kicks major ass.

[Boerboel]

Something about the hair is bugging me though...oh well, I will see it in person and then decide.
I agree,it looks weird.Not natural looking.

[Vader]

I think the accuracy of the likeness can't be questioned. It's the hair that is the problem. The hair is longer at the sides in the sample (so it is brushed more flat). The eyebrows have more hair in the sample.

[Ia Zista Zass]

Another question,

What happens to silicone over 5 years or so? Will his face start falling off?

Or dries and cracks....

IZZ

[Emperor'sGuard]

To me this thing requires too much up keep for a $1200 collectible.

[cap70]

I really want to like this piece more, as I believe the likeness it's excellent, and looks to be a very good statue overall, but the sillicone/powder damn thing it's keeping me scaried, together with Cinemaquette bad return policy.
The problem for me(besides the sillicone/powder and few other things that I could "maybe" learn to surpass with time) is to buy a BIG ticket item like this one, that had many protos and not beeing able to return it in case I don't like. Roulete? This tought alone scarys me already.
So ok, I open the box, if I like it, I'm lucky! If not, then I'm screwed? And this is not a piece that you can check it out in many places to see if you like.

C'mon, Cinemaquette, if you trust your product, then I see no reason why returns shouldn't be allowed. We are not that picky. :) We don't want Costco kind of policy, we just wanna to be able to see if we like(and 90% of the times we do!) and return just in case we don't like. And beeing picky and carefull collectors, we will also take good care of your product and pack it really well back to you in case we decide not to keep it. And we will pay shipping both ways. It's not like we will beat the crap of the statue and send it to you in pieces. :)
About the hair: I would try to keep it always longer. It's better to keep it a little longer(so we can cut it if it happens to be too long) then shorter. Unless it grows and we don't know :)
And please explain this well in your site, all writen and clear. We want you to stay in business, we really do!! I would LOVE owning some of your next pieces if they are good. You have the know how, but that alone doesn't keep anyone in business. I really hope the next turn will be much better.

And P1X, I'm really happy you are enjoying it my friend. It's a very nice piece. Show us more pics when you can! And to quote Rich, sorry to rain in your Parade, that wasn't my intention at all. Hope you understand my concerns.

[Gruson]

I agree,

Sorry, but I have decided to return mine. I am not even going to open it, just in case.

I am sending them a cancellation email now.

[P1X4R]

cap, great advice feedback for them. i certainly hope they hear these valid concerns if they are to continue in this line.

it's too bad how some of you guys are feeling about it but i can completely and respectfully understand. as old Ben once said..

"You must do what you feel is right, of course..." :)

[Gruson]

Actually, I am going to call them tomorrow morning. I am going to tell them if mine does not look exactly like the one on their web site, it's being returned.

I will demand the prototype from the web site because THAT is what I thought I was buying. :) The jacket looks like it fits better on it as well.



On P1's, the hair in the very back is cut wrong as well. It's not "tight" enough to his neck if you know what I mean. The hair is what really bugs me and the eyebrows look too thin.

IMO, Quality Control should have seen these issues.

Sorry if my posts come across negative but I have waited over a year for this piece and wanted it to be perfect...not to mention for $1200, it SHOULD be.

Thanks again for the pics P1 and I do still want to see some with shades on. Also, if you are not happy with any part, remember, Cineaquette says they will fix it for you....

[srne]

Another question,

What happens to silicone over 5 years or so? Will his face start falling off?


Not to rain on anyone's parade, but it just might...

Silicone's lifespan depends on a number of factors...

1) How is it stored? If it's in a cool dry place without any direct light, the "lifespan" will be longer. If it's stored in direct light, or in a warm room, the "lifespan" will be shortened.

2) How much is it handled? If it's handled frequently, say goodbye...

3) Was the silicone plasticized when manufatured? There are a number of additives which are often added to silicone during the manufacturing process. The most common would be silicone oil which acts to give the rubber a more liquidy viscosity when casting. It also can help in making the final casting much softer and more pliable to the touch. The down side is that it weakens the material significantly and in many cases, will actually leach out of the rubber over time. I can almost gaurantee this is why they are including the powder with the piece. The powder can be applied to give the silicone a dry feel and matte finish. It is not however going to prevent the leaching of the oil. This will only get worse over time...

There are many other factors, but these are the main ones. For those of you buying this piece, I would HIGHLY recommend getting a display case with a dark cover. This will greatly extend the life of your statue.

I can say from experience having worked in the film FX industry for nearly 15 years, that most silicone bodies we make begin to show their age within a year or two. If stored properly, I have seen pieces last for maybe 5-6 years and still look OK. After that, the rubber itself generally begins to lose it's "structural integrity". Paint goes first, generally within months. The hair often falls out, and the skin can possibly tear with the slightest stress or handling. Obviously there are exceptions to every rule, but that is pretty much the norm...

Hopefully, Cinemaquette has addressed some of these issues and done what's possible to prolong the life of their products. But, being made of a silicone rubber, the statue WILL breakdown over time. It's just a question of when.

Does Cinemaquette have any sort of warranty? If not, this may be why...


As for the likeness, it should look good. The original was from a cyber-scan of Arnold's head. It wasn't sculpted.

[Gruson]

Thanks srne,

I appreciate the information and will only order metal or non-silicone products from Cinemaquette in the future. I still want that T-X and will order the T-800 endo as well.

Anyone else upset about this? I do not want to spend $1200+ for a piece that will most likely fall apart within 5 years....I guess no 1/3 Indiana Jones for me now either..... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[cap70]

thanks srne for dropping by and posting all this info.

[srne]

It's not a problem. I've had alot of friends who bought latex stuff (Yoda for example) only to have the same thing happen. Then they run around crying about the $300-$400 that was wasted. We're talking about significantly more than that. I think it's kind of BS that they use this as a sales pitch, especially considering clear casting resins can be tinted and colored to look almost exactly like silicone and will never deteriorate. The silicone thing is just a gimmick in my opinion and is meant to WOW! the uninformed...

I don't want to discourage anybody from buying the piece. It's nicely done. I just think people should be made aware of the facts when it's that kind of money...

[srne]

Or dries and cracks....

IZZ


Silicone won't dry and crack. It will leach the oils in it, weaken, and tear.

[srne]

I do not want to spend $1200+ for a piece that will most likely fall apart within 5 years....

It probably won't fall apart in 5 years, but unless you store it like the Declaration of Independence, it will almost certainly be showing it's age.

"Mortality" isn't far behind... :(

[cap70]

I think it's kind of BS that they use this as a sales pitch, especially considering clear casting resins can be tinted and colored to look almost exactly like silicone and will never deteriorate

Exactly. Why not use Polystone like SS uses. Damn it, I don't want it to feels like "skin". I want only it to "look" like skin. That's it. They would have a much more durable product with much less care needed in the end.

[Gruson]

I can see it now....15 years from now...when Arnold is 75 years old:

"WOW P1! That Arnold statue looks just like him! Look at all the wrinkles and hair falling out!"


Cinemaquette should promote their statues: These pieces age over time, just like the actors!!!

j/k

[P1X4R]

Edna Mode says "gobble, gobble, gobble... such talk distracts from the now dahling". :)

on a serious note.. i will definitely look into this new info that has been brought up.. are we serious statue collectors or what? :)

[cap70]

lol G..why they didn't make the whole Endoskeleton bellow his skin. Atleast it would look like a battle damaged Arnold over time. Seriously, that would be cool :)

[srne]

I can see it now....15 years from now...when Arnold is 75 years old:

"WOW P1! That Arnold statue looks just like him! Look at all the wrinkles and hair falling out!"

j/k



:laugh: That's funny...

Like I said, I'm not trying to talk anyone out of it. Just getting the facts straight so you all can make an INFORMED decision about the possible issues down the road before you decide to get it or not...

[Gruson]

There's an idea Cap!

haha

I'm out guys, can't wait to call Cinemaquette tomorrow.....

[P1X4R]

LOL cap! hey, there you go! it'll be movie accurate! time warping will do that to anybody's skin!! :laugh:

[cap70]

LOL cap! hey, there you go! it'll be movie accurate! time warping will do that to anybody's skin!! :laugh:

True. :laugh:

[DetroitSportsFan]

I'm out guys, can't wait to call Cinemaquette tomorrow.....
Let us know what they said, I'm considering the same thing as you. I got my shipping email today and it will be here by Tuesday.

I just don't know what to say. The B.S. about the skin alone makes me not want to buy it. Also, this is NOT as accurate as the proto.

What a letdown.
:mad:

[srne]

Also, this is NOT as accurate as the proto.





Well, one thing you may notice is that the hair is punched in small plugs, groups of hair (like a doll) rather than the single hair punching that was used on the prototypes. It also appears the hairs used are much coarser.

Also, the prototypes were fully painted, where the actual pieces have only a fine mist of color added here and there. This explains why the piece looks different from the prototype. Painted shadows, highlights, freckles, etc. all can dramatically change the look of someones face.

Finally, the early prototypes had flocking in the silicone to give it some actual intrinsic breakup. It doesn't appear from the pictures that there is any in the final pieces. The overall tone of the silicone is very even, where a flocked silicone would almost appear painted even without having been. A little paint on top of that and you're flying...

Realistically, this is all stuff which should be expected when ordering a factory piece vs a sales prototype. The factory pieces will never be as good as the original. Even at this price...

[P1X4R]

ok, as promised. here are pics with his shades on. please try to enjoy. :)

[P1X4R]

.....

[Exar Kun]

Realistically, this is all stuff which should be expected when ordering a factory piece vs a sales prototype. The factory pieces will never be as good as the original. Even at this price...


True, unfortunately (done in China ..?..). This is true for many producer (the only one who is quite clear is Attakus)

[P1X4R]

ok, one final note before i call it a night.. the more i look at this statue the more i really appreciate it! sure, it may have its flaws but i'm just loving it for what it is. a cool art piece that evokes movie memories in my eyes. i went ahead and purchased a protective case for it. Arnie is a keeper for me!! :) thanks for sharing your thoughts!

[Skulpturen]

Thank you PIXAR for the many pics!
I think it looks great and deffintely better that the Attakus piece!

How about durability? The head is in silicone, right?

[sithboy]

Hey P1X! Thanks for the new pics -- great shots! It's a keeper for me too -- I agree with you, the more I look at it, the more I appreciate all the work that went into it. The details are great -- and it captures the Terminator like no other piece I've seen. In any case, I'm enjoying everyones opinion and some of the technical stuff is pretty interesting.

I'll be back! :eplus2:

[BobaFett02]

P1 WHat type of case you got...

IM waiting for another person to post pics before i decide to cancel my order or not..


I have been told september for mine... as im in the UK!

The face issues are very alarming... i would like to hear Cinemaquettes take on it!

[comicfan]

...damn...face looks good...but the hair screws up for me...no thanks...and sillicone face=bad call..it won't last too long..congratulations anyway if you like that's what counts...

[thx217]

ok, one final note before i call it a night.. the more i look at this statue the more i really appreciate it! sure, it may have its flaws but i'm just loving it for what it is. a cool art piece that evokes movie memories in my eyes. i went ahead and purchased a protective case for it. Arnie is a keeper for me!! :) thanks for sharing your thoughts!

I'm you with P1X. Those last few shots you took looks GREAT! In fact, it makes me wanna get one too though my plan is to get the next in line.

As for the sillicon thing. I WON'T MIND IT AT ALL. Life is short, enjoy what ever we have RIGHT NOW is what matters to me.

[lancelin]

Someone else please post their pics also.

Would be great if you can "emulate" the 4 pictures on the website also.

I ordered at Jul 23rd, so I think I still have a least 1 week or so make make up my mind.

Lance

[RichardW]

This just in...

With the release of the T-850, there has been overwhelming support of the silicon skin. Because of this, the next Cinemaquette will be this:

http://www.benowass.eq.edu.au/6dweb/Tyrone/arnold_files/image003.jpg

:eplus2:

[RichardW]

By the way P1X4R, he looks better with his sunglasses on. Thanks for the updated photos!

[Gir]

The pics with the sunglasses on look GREAT...except for the hair. The hair doesn't have enough variation in length. It looks like Arnold was using a Flowbee.

http://www.mhrw.com/Resourses/flowbee3.gif

[Gir]

The face issues are very alarming... i would like to hear Cinemaquettes take on it!

I agree with that. I wouldn't jump to conclusions.

[BobaFett02]

Gruson did you speak to Cine? dd you have anymore info!

Plus has anyone else got anypics?

[Gruson]

They are not answering the phone yet....I will keep trying.

[DetroitSportsFan]

They are not answering the phone yet....I will keep trying.

They probably won't be in until after 10AM Pacific. Keep trying!
Be sure to ask for their comments on the silicone skin. That is the deal breaker for me.

[Justin]

thanks for sharing the pics P1X4R! :)

[Gruson]

Ok, I just spoke to Scott at Cinemaquette. He is going to find out from Cinemaquette if it is ok for him to post in this forum to address our questions.

We talked about a lot of issues:

1. If anyone is not 100% satisfied with their T-850, they will do everything to correct any issues you have with it. If you want a full refund, they will give you a full refund.

2. As for the hair, he informed me it is actually in his head very deep and you can pull it out to make it longer. If my Arnold's hair is too short, I will give it a try...I think P1 should too. ;)

3. The important question. How long will the silicone skin last? This was a big concern for Cinemaquette before they even released a single piece. They decided to use a silicone that has a VERY long lifespan according to Scott. He will be sending me some detailed information on it tonight and I will post it, once I receive it.

As for the powder, he said we should only use it once a year to help keep dust, dirt, etc off of Arnold.

If you have any questions for him, he said to please give him a call.

1-866-869-8606

I am going to open mine up to see how he looks and will decide whether or not to keep him...assuming the silicone has a LONG lifespan. If I am not happy with him, he will be going back.

I want to thank Scott for his time today. He is a very nice guy and you can tell he has a passion for the line.

[P1X4R]

cool! thanks for the news Gruson! it's good to hear about their full refund.

on a side note regarding the silicone.. i have someone here at work who is familiar with this problem. fortunately for me he can (once i get my display case w/ black base / 18x18x32) encase and have it completely sealed with an inert gas. he has done this with numerous valuable collectibles that are way more expensive than this cinemaquette (details of which i can not disclose)! :)

as for arnie's hair.. i'm really not too bothered by it at all.

[DetroitSportsFan]

The important question. How long will the silicone skin last? This was a big concern for Cinemaquette before they even released a single piece. They decided to use a silicone that has a VERY long lifespan according to Scott. He will be sending me some detailed information on it tonight and I will post it, once I receive it.

I'm looking forward to reading this detailed info. Thanks for calling them Gruson.

[RichardW]

As for the powder, he said we should only use it once a year to help keep dust, dirt, etc off of Arnold.

So would you not need to use this powder if he's immediately placed in an acrylic display case and kept there?

[P1X4R]

P1 WHat type of case you got...

hey bobafett02, i ordered it here.

http://store.casesforcollectibles.com/31.html

i think cap bought from them before..

[Gruson]

Thanks for the info P1!

[Gruson]

Sithboy, can you try and take some pictures of yours?

Is the hair similar?

[BobaFett02]

Thanks p1 looks like a ok deal on the Case.. but

Thats how much the postage is to the UK!.... errrm

UPS Worldwide Express $ 420.09

UPS Worldwide Expedited $ 327.56

[cap70]

hey bobafett02, i ordered it here.

http://store.casesforcollectibles.com/31.html

i think cap bought from them before..

Yup, have many cases from them, can't beat the prices or quality.

[cap70]

Ok, I just spoke to Scott at Cinemaquette. He is going to find out from Cinemaquette if it is ok for him to post in this forum to address our questions.


Yup, that would be awesome. Nothing like hearing the info directly from the horses mouth. I'm wondering why they told me by email that they can't accept a full refund in case I didn't like it, yet they told you they will acccept?? :peoples:

[BobaFett02]

I just been playing with the images to see a good comparison from P1's pics and publicity shots..

http://www.heroicvisions.co.uk/t850/comparison1.jpg

http://www.heroicvisions.co.uk/t850/comparison2.jpg

http://www.heroicvisions.co.uk/t850/comparison3.jpg

http://www.heroicvisions.co.uk/t850/comparison4.gif

[SirTristram]

Oh God! The publicity shots look much better...and it's not just because of the dramatic lighting! Jeez.... :peoples:

I hope the INDY doesn't suffer the same fate! :mad:

[Vader]

It's the hair!!!

[Viking28]

Might be due to the flash but the skin tone looks way off to me.

[Gruson]

Exactly.

My observations on P1's...I wish someone else would post pics!! Mine arrives Monday now....

-The eyes are too narrow
-Too much space between eyes and eyebrows
-Eyebrows are not bushy enough...way too thin
-His hair is the biggest issue. Sorry but it looks HORRIBLE. It's too short on top and sides and too bushy in the very back. He looks like he has a grown out buzz cut or something.
-jacket looks "cheaper" and does not fit as nice
-zippers are bigger on P1's for sure

[sithboy]

Hey Gruson -- I would, but I don't have my camera! I'll see if I can borrow one and get some pics for ya.

Boba Fett, the pics you show are all with really bright lighting -- when I look at mine in natural subdued lighting (where it can actually have shadows on the face), it looks tons better. I don't know why he has that expression though -- may be the angle of the shot. The bottom shots with his glasses on are much better.

Another thing is -- P1X, you gotta unzip that jacket all the way! It looks kinda funny with it zipped partway -- I had to unzip the jacket and then
pull it a bit so it hangs more naturally. Definitely looks better to me.

[Gruson]

Sith, is the hair on yours the same as P1's???? How about the eyebrows?



To confirm for people, Scott did say if we are not happy with the piece, we can return it for a FULL refund.

[cap70]

He looks sad on P1X pictures. CM pictures he looks more bad @ss, and that's cause his eyebrowns are thicker, longer on CM pictures. His eyebrows are thinner on P1X pictures and shorter. His hairline looks much better and natural on CM pictures, just look the profile shots. Also, look at the zipper mechanism in the leather jacket in the first side by side pictures. In the CM site, it looks proportional( smaller). In P1X pictures, it looks too big.
The leather jacket also looks much better on CM pictures. Sorry, but the more I look at him, the less I like him. What a big let down it was for me :(

[lancelin]

I just canceled mine.

The last comparison just seals it.

I rather have 3 weta horseback statues of Aragorn, Gangalf, and Legolas/Gimli than the T-850.

Lance

[Gruson]

You just copied my observations cap! ;)

Thanks for the comparison pics fett...much easier for me to compare them.

and to think...we were worried about the quality of the shotgun!

:banghead: :banghead:

[P1X4R]

for what it's worth.. i took these pictures with very little preparation. i rushed right home as soon as it got delivered. i'm sure in the hands of a professional photographer it would look better. also, when i got home later that night i found that i had not removed all of the packing from behind his jacket and his boots. maybe i need a new camera and a short course in photography? :) i just point and shoot! hopefully somebody with better skills can provide better pictures.

[thx217]

Since they produce 50 of theme per month. There is a huge possibility they gonna have those problems which few of our forum memder mentioned above FIXED! IF they wanna stay in the business.

[cap70]

You just copied my observations cap! ;)


Was typing when you posted it, didn't see.

[lancelin]

Just got the response from them:

==========
Dear Huang-Yu Lin,

We are sorry to hear that you are unsatisfied with the pictures you saw on
"statueforum.com". We strongly advise you to make up your own decision once
you see it for yourself. The cast model has not changed and it is the exact
same mold as one in the SDCC pics. The difference you are seeing is produced
from lighting and photo quality. We are confident in the overall quality of
the T-850 and hope you can agree once you see it. Customer satisfaction is
assured should you have any issues with your Cinemaquette. Please let us
know what you think once it arrives. Thank you.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
Cinemaquette
=============

[cap70]

To confirm for people, Scott did say if we are not happy with the piece, we can return it for a FULL refund.

Why they told me otherwise in their email??? :mad:

[P1X4R]

a thought just occurred to me. maybe this is why Gentle Giant does not allow "outside" publicity pictures. :laugh:

[sithboy]

No kidding! :laugh:

[RichardW]

They seem to stress customer satisfaction in their emails, but how much of a pain would it be shipping this back to them to fix the hair like the website photos?

I think the hair and zippers are the biggest buzz killers on this piece, IMO.

[Gruson]

From these SDCC 2004 photos, he looks much better:

SDCC 2004 Arnold (http://69.93.119.2/photo/1/showgallery.php?cat=1568&password=&page=2)

It's a slow site...pics are either dark or too much flash but you can tell the hair and eyebrows are better for sure. That's bad lighting but looks much better IMO....

[Exar Kun]

a thought just occurred to me. maybe this is why Gentle Giant does not allow "outside" publicity pictures.


Nice thought :)

I am waiting to get mine and to make my own opinion on it. Difficult to judge on the pictures. Note that what we saw on CM website is ADVERTISING and prototypes are often different from items done later in factories.

Though, I admit that I am nervous also: it is a lot of money.

[Gruson]

Exar,

The CM (web site) pics look great, however, look at the pics I posted in the link before your post. Horrible lighting conditions but the SDCC version looks much better than P1s....

I really want to read about this lifespan of silicone as well....everyone I have asked about it says I will see it start to deteriorate within 5 years...no matter how well I take care of it.

[RichardW]

Wow, I didn't realize they had a prototype way back then. You guys have been waiting forever for this guy. :laugh:

Yep. Much better looking hair on that 2004 SDCC Arnold.

[Exar Kun]

I am seeing them and I saw them before and I am also worried about this but I want to see the piece by myself.

There were too many different pictures fo this product on the web: this is something that CM should be very carefull from now to their future if they intend to have some. One prototype and one final product. Anyway, I have still little hope

[BobaFett02]

No problems the pics chaps... I needed to know. Its as good as we have at the moment.

I took a jump and called CM myself. Being in the UK thats a hell of a call...but anyway

They where very helpfull in explaining all the ins and outs of the statue.

The eyes where altered. I believe that they were made smaller.

The hair can be altered and styled.It can be pulled out and altered. Though i think it should styled out of the box!

The face: It will last a life time i am told.. which is comforting. the sheer cost of this item i would want it to last for 10yrs plus!

The jacket. Its new leather. We have to expect that the publicity one has been handled a lot to and it has been tweaked and pulled to look exactly right.

The face can take make up so im told also... so nice blue eyeliner for me.

CM will be posting as they are aware of the concerns people are having, this to me shows that they are making every effort to make this a success. this will include / hair styling, jacket/pant styling and full specs of the silicone used in the face!...

Im not cancelling... im still in there...

[Exar Kun]

I agree and let's see if they are smart enough to listen their customer's coments.

But there is sth I did not understand: they altered the eyes ??

BTW it is useless for me to compare pictures even if i can see huge differences. Better to ask those who already get this litlle Arnie to say what they think when they look at their Arnie and pictures from SDCC 04 for instance.

[RichardW]

Here's an Arnold picture we can compare it to. His hair is definately longer on the sides.

http://www.criticdoctor.com/Resources/stills/t3arnold2.jpg

If finally hit me who he reminds me of with the shorter hair and without the sunglasses. Remember James Hurley from Twin Peaks?

http://www.lynchtown.com/immagini/TP-James.jpg

:)

[P1X4R]

Twin Peaks? of course! Laura, Laura! LOL :laugh:

i wasn't too impressed with 'fire walk with me' though. i'm hoping they release the 2nd season on dvd. tough chance.

[RichardW]

It's supposedly coming. Supposedly.

[Exar Kun]

:) nice found the James Hurley! I guess that Aragorn will be Bob :eplus2:



The pic from P1 remind me the prototype

http://www.collectiblez.nl/collectiblezrk/replicas/cinemarep/cinema/t3cinema.jpg

[cap70]

The hair on the prototype still looks much, much better and more natural than P1X pictures.

[cap70]

CM Aragorn reminds me Stiffler from American Pie.

[Gruson]

I agree with cap. I like that proto pic...the hair and eyebrows look good in it.

Cinemaquette, can you please post some more pictures of Arnold from some of the ones you are about to ship or other "final" versions of him? I am curious to what others look like. I wish sithboy would post some pics or comment on his T-850's hair.... Get your digital camera back!!! ;)

You also REALLY need to update the official site....

[cap70]

and make their policy writen VERY clear.

[Exar Kun]

Cinemaquette, can you please post some more pictures of Arnold from some of the ones you are about to ship or other "final" versions of him? I am curious to what others look like. I wish sithboy would post some pics or comment on his T-850's hari.... Get your digital camera back!!! ;)

You also REALLY need to update the official site....


:buttrock: :buttrock:

[thx217]

"You also REALLY need to update the official site...."

Yeah. The T-800 is STILL coming on Mar. What month is this?? LOL.

[RichardW]

No kidding. It's bad enough you can't order the T-X easily. I have a link thanks to one of you guys, but still. They don't make it easy.

BTW, was the T-X always $1000? I could've sworn it used to be $800.

[P1X4R]

ok, i'll have some interesting info as soon as i hear from their customer service which has been great so far.

[thx217]

"Limited in number, unlimited in quality"

Yeah CM. I believe that when I got my TX. And I sure will support your future products, but hey, don't forget the unlimited in quality thing. Alright?

[RichardW]

ok, i'll have some interesting info as soon as i hear from their customer service which has been great so far.

Please tell me it's an installment plan. :banghead:

[srne]

Wow, I didn't realize they had a prototype way back then. You guys have been waiting forever for this guy. :laugh:

Yep. Much better looking hair on that 2004 SDCC Arnold.

One of the first prototypes of this piece was done in Jan/Feb of 2004 from a cyber-scan of Arnold's head. It was molded, cast, seamed and I was told painted and punched (hair) by a certain very well known Creature FX studio in LA. (Not Winston's or Baker's)... I don't know if that head is the same one in the pictures, but it gives an idea of the lengths that companies go to when producing their prototypes. The real pieces are made...?... Certainly not at the same company...


I for one, am looking forward to seeing what info CM gives about the hair and especially the skin.

[Gruson]

I agree, I really want to see the information they are going to post/email me.

Mine is now scheduled to arrive Monday instead of tomorrow....<sigh>

Unless it looks like the SDCC/2004 version of Arnold, it will be returned. I will take some pictures for sure.

[Ghost]

Just got the response from them:

==========
Dear Huang-Yu Lin,

We are sorry to hear that you are unsatisfied with the pictures you saw on
"statueforum.com". We strongly advise you to make up your own decision once
you see it for yourself. The cast model has not changed and it is the exact
same mold as one in the SDCC pics. The difference you are seeing is produced
from lighting and photo quality. We are confident in the overall quality of
the T-850 and hope you can agree once you see it. Customer satisfaction is
assured should you have any issues with your Cinemaquette. Please let us
know what you think once it arrives. Thank you.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
Cinemaquette
=============

I don't think it's wise to call attention to the forum like that. You know what I mean? You could say you saw the pics elsewhere from friends. Just cause we wouldn't want problems from Cinemaquette too. Just a thought I'm saying.

From the pics, I wouldn't have got this. Not impressed. Would like to see what else they produce, but most likely won't be as interested as I am with SS's work.

[lancelin]

I don't think it's wise to call attention to the forum like that. You know what I mean? You could say you saw the pics elsewhere from friends. Just cause we wouldn't want problems from Cinemaquette too. Just a thought I'm saying.



Point taken Ghost. Will be more careful next time.

Lance

[thx217]

I agree with you Ghost, but CM. is not selling a $12 action figure. They NEED to know and hear the reactions from those who actually purchsed their product(s). For me, I think it's a good thing that they NOTICED that there're a bunch of people here are willing and ready to shell out rather great deal of money on these........high-end dolls. No offense. PEACE. :buttrock:

Lin, if I were you. I would hold on to my oreder and feel it for myself.+ :confused2

[C1eaN]

One of the first prototypes of this piece was done in Jan/Feb of 2004 from a cyber-scan of Arnold's head. It was molded, cast, seamed and I was told painted and punched (hair) by a certain very well known Creature FX studio in LA. (Not Winston's or Baker's)... I don't know if that head is the same one in the pictures, but it gives an idea of the lengths that companies go to when producing their prototypes. The real pieces are made...?... Certainly not at the same company...


I for one, am looking forward to seeing what info CM gives about the hair and especially the skin.

My hat is off to you sir for such useful insight in such a technical matter. I am not a prospective buyer of these but your information must be invaluable to those who are. Insider info on where the protos were made etc.....

Let me say cheers my good man!!! :thumbs2:

My advice to those trying to talk yourself into this is to re-read this gentleman's posts throughout this thread before you narrow the 'issues' to hair length. Just my friendly $0.02 though...

Also, P1 should be applauded for allowing candid review/discussion of the piece and providing pics etc......

[sithboy]

I am surprised at how angry some people have gotten over the T-850 -- I mean to go so far as calling it a POS?! Unreal -- hey, if you don't like it, that's cool -- everyone has the right to their opinion, then don't buy it. No one is twisting your arm. I happen to think it is a quality piece.

At that price, you should be happy with what you get -- so there you go. Funny how the two guys that really dig the piece are the ones with it in hand.
P1X, you and me gotta stick together! :)

[bruceb]

I am surprised at how angry some people have gotten over the T-850 -- I mean to go so far as calling it a POS?! Unreal -- hey, if you don't like it, that's cool -- everyone has the right to their opinion, then don't buy it. No one is twisting your arm. I happen to think it is a quality piece.

At that price, you should be happy with what you get -- so there you go. Funny how the two guys that really dig the piece are the ones with it in hand.
P1X, you and me gotta stick together! :)

maybe pos was a bit too much.I edited post. but waited 4 to long for this thing and it isn't even close to what it should be. sorry, I'm just sad. good you are happy with yours, you are stuck with it, you better be happy. can you answer the questions ppl asked you here,can you post a picture of yours so we all can see how it looks? ~thanks

[RichardW]

We definitely need to see pictures of another T-850. We're making a lot of comments based on one figure.

[Exar Kun]

We definitely need to see pictures of another T-850. We're making a lot of comments based on one figure.


True. And we need comments of those who have already the T-850 regarding the pictures on CM or SDCC04

[DetroitSportsFan]

I know Gruson is getting his on Monday, and I'm getting mine on Tuesday. I'm sure we'll both post pics so we all can compare.
But from what I've seen so far, this will most likely be going back... :mad:

[C1eaN]

bruceb...welcome to the board with your big 6 posts but here we share our thoughts in ways that are constructive. According to Dictionary.com:

con·struc·tive ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kn-strktv)
adj.
Serving to improve or advance; helpful: constructive criticism.

I think it is immature to spew your anger and frustration when this thread has been about sharing ideas, opinions and information. We get kinda defensive of our fellow board members and our way of "life" here. Please don't take this too hard but if you are not here to contribute in a constructive manner don't leave mad....just leave.

[RichardW]

I'm curious how many people build these things. Does Cinemaquette have one person doing the hair on all these figures or does someone work on a figure from start to finish? If it's the latter, there could be some Arnolds with hair that matches the prototype. If it's the former, that means there could be a lot of short-haired Arnolds.

[DetroitSportsFan]

http://www.heroicvisions.co.uk/t850/comparison2.jpg

Anyone notice the differences in jacket length between the proto and finished versions? Notice how in the proto the jacket's length goes past the belt buckle.

[P1X4R]

Anyone notice the differences in jacket length between the proto and finished versions? Notice how in the proto the jacket's length goes past the belt buckle.

my picture actually shows the jacket's belt buckle NOT his pant's belt buckle. here's a couple of pics with the jacket unzipped.

[Gruson]

What could have been....

I will say those last two pics do look a LOT better though.

[DetroitSportsFan]

my picture actually shows the jacket's belt buckle NOT his pant's belt buckle. here's a couple of pics with the jacket unzipped.

Oh, ok. It looks better with the jacket unzipped.

[Exar Kun]

P1, I think that the more you will touch the jacket, the more it will appear better. I 'd bet that the one we have the picture from Cinemaquette was "used" many times (and they have a very good photograph)

[nexus]

I have to say, I'm glad I didn't cave and start getting these. Cool concept. Nice looking product (even with all the nits everyone's been pointing out), but still too $$$$ to justify IMO. I just really couldn't see paying more than $300 for these (which is where the SS premium format price point is except on the metal sculpts like Greivous or Terminator). Still trying to figure out if the Predator will be worth the grand, though. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Cinemaquette over the next 6 months or so.

[P1X4R]

no worries about some of the "harsh" comments made. it's all in personal taste..

[BobaFett02]

the more i look at it the more i like it

But I still have a worry that it isnt quite the statue i thought it was. The original seems so much better!

I carnt wait untill there are more pics!

Maybe the later editions will be better? taking note that they are listening to our views... and only 50 are made a month!

more pics asap¬!

[SirTristram]

I have to say, I'm glad I didn't cave and start getting these. Cool concept. Nice looking product (even with all the nits everyone's been pointing out), but still too $$$$ to justify IMO. I just really couldn't see paying more than $300 for these (which is where the SS premium format price point is except on the metal sculpts like Greivous or Terminator). Still trying to figure out if the Predator will be worth the grand, though. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Cinemaquette over the next 6 months or so.


I agree completely and I HATE that I do....I REALLY wanted these....I really wanted them to look ....well, REAL!

Oh god....I hope INDY looks good....I may still slurge and buy him!

[P1X4R]

manual's info about care.

[BobaFett02]

BruceB

Chill out man... we are all trying to be constuctive in what we are saying here.

I am not 100% happy with it but u dont hear me screaming about it and i have one on pre order! And yeah your post count does matter... you gather respect from the board from posting and contributing something.

Slagging things off gets you nowhere!...

Cinemaquette are also trying to get this correct so leave off the slander¬!

[bruceb]

yes..waited for so long for it and I'm really frustraded about how it turned out :(
I'm not offending anyone.

[BobaFett02]

I hear ya! .. i do

Just chill wait for more pics..

I even called Cinamaquette from the UK... thats a hell of a call... just to hear there side.

Maybe do the same... worth it! :rolleyes2

[cap70]

Anyone here have the right to express their opinions in this forum, so let's stop the bandwagon jump on bruceb.
I'm also VERY frustrated with this product and I really do understand people that got upset with it PRINCIPALLY if you waited too long for this product. He's not offending anyone, he's just angry, and that goes away with time, we all know that. So let's play nice too. :)
Now back to subject.

I also want to see Sithboy pictures of his T-850 so we can compare with the pictures posted here. Can you post, Sithboy? Answer the questions Gruson asked you, please. You just joined this forum, yet you didn't answer any questions made to you. Thank you.

[Gruson]

My guess is that Sithboy's looks just as bad since he is not posting answers.

Oh yeah, I am not supposed to talk about the T-850 anymore.....wait a minute...

A girl, soaked in water, is now approaching me, in my monitor...it almost looks like she is about to come out of it...wait...

HELP!!!

[P1X4R]

LOL :laugh: now you've only got 7 days!

wait a sec! that was a week ago! buh-bye my friend. :)

[xenoviper]

Alright im new to this forum... P1X4R thanks for the pics!
By the way have you try to remove all the clothings and see how well they have done with the silicon skin?

[cap70]

Please don't! The last thing I want to see now is a naked Arnold!

xenoviper, welcome to the forum! :)

[P1X4R]

welcome xenoviper! glad to have you onboard. enjoy the madness! :)

as for removing arnold's clothing.. i'd rather not. do you remember the sideshow luke on rebelscum? :) the silicon skin is only on the maquette's head.

[C1eaN]

Anyone here have the right to express their opinions in this forum, so let's stop the bandwagon jump on bruceb.
I'm also VERY frustrated with this product and I really do understand people that got upset with it PRINCIPALLY if you waited too long for this product. He's not offending anyone, he's just angry, and that goes away with time, we all know that. So let's play nice too. :)
Now back to subject.

I also want to see Sithboy pictures of his T-850 so we can compare with the pictures posted here. Can you post, Sithboy? Answer the questions Gruson asked you, please. You just joined this forum, yet you didn't answer any questions made to you. Thank you.


WOW...Cap I am surprised......

I agree this is a place for opinions.... I agree that I don't have to agree. Hell, I have said I am not buying one of these...but lets look at his post I am referring to:

"P.O.S. that's what this Cinemaquette T-850 is. sorry, but there is no way in hell I would pay more than $300 on it. Big, expensive, non-accurate doll. powder make up? what's next, feeding- these things?"

P1x comes here, as a fellow board member, with this piece for review/scruntity and this guy calls it a "Piece of ****" not worth $300? If this is just expressing his anger, why is he the only person in a 20 page thread who chose to "express" himself this way?

If it is proper to do this why didn't you express your fruatration the same way....or Gruson...or anyone else here wanting this thing to live up to its' billing?

I submit becasue it is childish and rude to those here who either:

A) like it
B) own it
C) took time and energy to put up pics etc for discussion

I have to say that I am floored that you are supporting his words and yet you have never posted in this manner. And a 'dogpile' is not 2 members expressing indignation over his crude and unnecessary words.

bruceb....for clarification...

I mentioned your post count because first impressions are usually lasting ones and I must say you chose an interesting way to introduce yourself to a new "community". P1X is a valued member and pissing on his decision, taste and new piece is just wrong imho. Even if he wasn't offended...I was offended for him.

[P1X4R]

thanks C1eaN! your words are much appreciated. i usually don't bother attacking back. it only seems to make things worse. i'll admit reading this thread hasn't been too exciting for me lately. i can understand everyone's disappointment in this. i feel partly to blame for posting the pics so hurriedly as i knew everyone here was as excited to see it as much as me.

[thx217]

Wooooosaaaaaa........................

[cap70]

WOW...Cap I am surprised......

I agree this is a place for opinions.... I agree that I don't have to agree. Hell, I have said I am not buying one of these...but lets look at his post I am referring to:

"P.O.S. that's what this Cinemaquette T-850 is. sorry, but there is no way in hell I would pay more than $300 on it. Big, expensive, non-accurate doll. powder make up? what's next, feeding- these things?"

P1x comes here, as a fellow board member, with this piece for review/scruntity and this guy calls it a "Piece of ****" not worth $300? If this is just expressing his anger, why is he the only person in a 20 page thread who chose to "express" himself this way?

If it is proper to do this why didn't you express your fruatration the same way....or Gruson...or anyone else here wanting this thing to live up to its' billing?

I submit becasue it is childish and rude to those here who either:

A) like it
B) own it
C) took time and energy to put up pics etc for discussion

I have to say that I am floored that you are supporting his words and yet you have never posted in this manner. And a 'dogpile' is not 2 members expressing indignation over his crude and unnecessary words.


Heya C1eaN, first I will also say WOW back at ya, you know me enough to know my toughts about it.
I don't think he is right or wrong, I just think people should be allowed to say whatever they want to If you are not offending anyone directly. Yes, he was a bit harsh, agree with you. "WE" wouldn't have said the way he said, but at the same time I want to REALLY keep this thing on topic. We don't want to give excuses to "other" people not posting their explanations here. ;)
I also don't think a good idea asking people to leave the forum just case they said this piece is not worth $300. That's an opinion, we like it or not. Ignore it, you much better than that. How many times I(we) heard some of my statues were not worthy even half of what I paid for it? Did I ask people to leave the forum? Nope, even tough I got very upset with those types of comments.You probably also heard it too many times.
C'mon, we are talking about a statue here folks. Yes, there's better ways of criticizing things, and sometimes people are harsh. But please...let's learn to ignore(I know I'm trying!) those small things instead of keep fighting back.
I don't think P1X got offended. He's probably enjoying his T-850 and is not giving too much a crap about what people say. I'm in no way supporting his words, just saying that he is probably angry and I understand that, since I also got a little upset about it. You know me better than that, bro :)
But is not everyone that express their opinions in a more well "educated" and constructive way like us, unfortunetly ;)
I for one want to see more pictures and still waiting for CM to give some needed answers here. That's what I'm worried about.

cheers,
C.

[cap70]

thanks C1eaN! your words are much appreciated. i usually don't bother attacking back. it only seems to make things worse. i'll admit reading this thread hasn't been too exciting for me lately. i can understand everyone's disappointment in this. i feel partly to blame for posting the pics so hurriedly as i knew everyone here was as excited to see it as much as me.

You are beeing a gentleman, P1X. Kudos to you my friend

[Gruson]

How about some updated pics P1? Now that you have him set up correctly. Did you try to pull out his hair at all?

[P1X4R]

How about some updated pics P1? Now that you have him set up correctly. Did you try to pull out his hair at all?

hey Gruson, "talk to the hand". :eplus2: i think i'll wait for someone else to post theirs. i'm still waiting for a response from CM..

[cap70]

Where's Sithboy pictures?? We need another one to compare....

[xenoviper]

man Cinemaquettes T-850 is way too expensive for me :( but i really want to get one since im one big terminator fan... anyway i guess for the mean time i'll just have to settle with this 12" version.
Popsalute's 12" T-850 with a gentle giant head sculpt
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/nimbus1/G-Giant_T850_A02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/nimbus1/G-Giant_T850_02.jpg

Heres a custom i did
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/nimbus1/T2_Endoarm_01.jpg

[xenoviper]

oh and heres the SDCC 2003 1:1 scale T-850 giving us the middle finger... :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/nimbus1/San_Diego_Comic_Con03_T3.jpg

[cap70]

Cool mods, xenoviper! :)
I want that 1:1 scale Arnold! :D

[P1X4R]

now that's a statue! btw, are ya guys still going for the 1:1 sideshow endoskeleton?

[cap70]

now that's a statue! btw, are ya guys still going for the 1:1 sideshow endoskeleton?

I'm thinking to order it, but I will only do if the final size it's bigger.

[C1eaN]

Cap...PM replied to. I don't apologize for my thoughts or expressing them. I will try to take a lesson from P1 and Cap and try to /ignore more. P1 deserved better and I can't promise I won't defend another board member in the same way in the future.

He drove up in his shiny new car to show us all and some strnger walked by and called it a POS. :mad: :mad: :mad:

Ok...I am done with it.....back to the topic.....sorry for taking the "bait"

[cap70]

LOL C1eaN, you are the best. We shall learn to ignore them. They are everywhere and we know! :laugh:
Yup, it's difficult, but I'm really, really trying. We are much better than that :thumbs2:
Now lets ask other people to post pictures of it! Where's Sithboy??? :laugh:

[RichardW]

Hopefully out buying a camera. ;)

[sithboy]

Hey everyone. I'm back. :eplus2:

I was out of town and just got home and I see a ton of new posts. Thanks for your comments C1eaN, you are much better at expressing what I meant to say earlier -- I agree with you 100%!

Hey cap70 -- why you giving me a hard time? Sheesh, I explained in my first post that my brother had my camera and I'm not going out and buying another! Unless you want to buy me one... Anyway, I thought I had answered Gruson's questions -- did I miss something?

I'm really enjoying all the interaction of this board, so thanks all for letting me join in. And I still love my T-850. :laugh:

[cap70]

=sithboyHey cap70 -- why you giving me a hard time? Sheesh, I explained in my first post that my brother had my camera and I'm not going out and buying another! Unless you want to buy me one... Anyway, I thought I had answered Gruson's questions -- did I miss something?


Hard time?? Learn to play, dude, chill out. ;)
We did this with P1X and asked him many times to post pictures. It's all fun between us. If you don't know how to play, then don't play at all. You just joined the forum, so don't take things too seriously. There's a stabilished "good mood" and friendship between some of the regulars here. Me, P1X and Gruson are best friends. :)
About Gruson's questions, ask him. He don't think you answered him if you read his last posts.

[cap70]

Sith, is the hair on yours the same as P1's???? How about the eyebrows?

Here you go sithboy. Nope, you didn't answer his question.

[sithboy]

Hey cap70! I KNOW you were playing. Geez, who's taking it too seriously now? I know how you guys go back and forth (I'm a longtime lurker, y'know), so I was just repying to your post, that's all. I guess sometimes my jokes and sarcasm don't translate when I type it in. Anyways, hope all is cool with us.

Gruson -- sorry I missed your questions. First, I think my T-850 looks pretty similar to P1X's, which I think is great. The hair looks a bit longer when I look at the one I have, but that could be just the angles of the pics. And I do think the eyebrows are a bit on the thin side, which doesn't bother me. Wish I had my camera...

[cap70]

I guess sometimes my jokes and sarcasm don't translate when I type it in. Anyways, hope all is cool with us.


No problema. It happens a lot.






But where are the damn pictures???? C'mom, man!! $5 for a disposable camera, ya know.
:D

[sithboy]

That's not a bad idea! :laugh:

[C1eaN]

Thanks for your comments C1eaN, you are much better at expressing what I meant to say earlier -- I agree with you 100%!


:thumbs2: my pleasure

[Exar Kun]

http://www.heroicvisions.co.uk/t850/comparison4.gif

[Exar Kun]

http://www.heroicvisions.co.uk/t850/comparison4.gif


I think it is your's P1, isn't it ?

[BobaFett02]

This is P1's T850

I just put the pictures together to get the comparison! :)

[Exar Kun]

Sorry B. I noticed too late. I picked it up in a French forum.

BTW, when do you expect yours ? I am in Belgium and I think perhaps it will be at the same time.

[BobaFett02]

A friench forum eh! have to take them down soon using my bandwidth!

I was told September! so i dont really know to be honest

[RichardW]

Alright guys, I think I have a solution to the eyebrow problem.

http://www.beautysteals.com/images/products/02843683102-sisley-botanical-eyebrow-pencil-1-charcoal.jpg

[BobaFett02]

You know it was suggested by them to add makeup... to the eyes to make it more inline with the original!

I wonder what the long term effects could be!

[xenoviper]

what about adding some hair gel to it... or use super glue to make it perminent ... the original fluffy hair that came straight out of the box look a bit dopey to me..
Yeh i reckon give it a bit of make up would do fine :D prepare him for a good photo shoot

[Gruson]

FYI,

Mine is out for delivery. I will take some pictures later today, after work. Sorry, I cannot go home at lunch! ;)


so....where is the Cinemaquette post? I figured they would have responded by now.

[DetroitSportsFan]

I look forward to your pics Gruson. I'm getting mine tomorrow and I'll post pics as well.

[RichardW]

Awesome! Two more sets of photos to compare. :)

[cap70]

C'mom Gruson, where are the pictures????? :D

[Exar Kun]

Yup! And do not froget to buy some make up :)

[Gruson]

LOL cap.

No delivery yet. I am trying to figure out a way to move some conference calls so I can home for lunch. ;)

[cap70]

Sweet. :)
Did you hear back from CM?
I will have to do some outdoor work today and probably will miss when you post the pictures, but I will be back at night to check them out. ;)

[P1X4R]

LOL cap.

No delivery yet. I am trying to figure out a way to move some conference calls so I can home for lunch. ;)

you should make it a video conference call with the cinemaquette as the topic of discussion! :)

[lancelin]

Anyone tried to pull the Arnie hair to look like the proto yet?

My Arnie arrived, but I am 3000 miles away on a biz trip.

Lance

[P1X4R]

i just heard from their customer service. they will be posting soon..

[DetroitSportsFan]

i just heard from their customer service. they will be posting soon..

Excellent. I want to read their comments on the silicone skin.

[Gruson]

Erase some messages in your PM box P1!!!! :)

[P1X4R]

i just did. :) send it again.

[Gruson]

I just opened him up. He looks better than P1's for sure. Eyebrows and hair are better. Pics coming soon!

Time to set him up....

[P1X4R]

sounds promising. pics! lots of pics!

[C1eaN]

I just opened him up. He looks better than P1's for sure. Eyebrows and hair are better. Pics coming soon!

Time to set him up....

You can lead a horse to water........

[cap70]

I just opened him up. He looks better than P1's for sure. Eyebrows and hair are better. Pics coming soon!

Time to set him up....

Awesome, now start posting pictures!! :D
ps: I just came back from working all day with a gorgeous new Brazilian top model, so I'm afraid anything will look ugly after that! :laugh: