Prometheus Engineer (Viggiano Studios)

[Ham]

Is the Engineer statue from Sideshow canceled? When I click on the Engineer banner on this site it takes me to a Batman page. And I can't find info on this statue on the Sideshow website - just something from Hot Toys.

[Nitefall]

Is the Engineer statue from Sideshow canceled? When I click on the Engineer banner on this site it takes me to a Batman page. And I can't find info on this statue on the Sideshow website - just something from Hot Toys.


I don't think so Ham. Maybe SS is playing coy. http://i46.tinypic.com/mtxmxh.jpg

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/brands/alien/engineer-statue-preview/

http://i51.tinypic.com/b99h00.jpg to the Forum Ham. http://i54.tinypic.com/14viah4.jpg

[Dark Shadow]

Welcome to Statue Forum Ham.;)

[Ham]

Thanks guys! I was getting worried for a minute. Sideshow really should fix that link

[DynamicMenace]

welcome to the forum.
im sure SS will fix it once PE is ready for PO

[derekrodneysim]

You sure didn't wait long before starting your own thread, huh, Ham? :D

Welcome to the treehouse. You'll meet some fone folk here in time. Truth be told, there's nowhere else I'd rather be on the web.

Folks will crack you up, make you cry, you'll go broke and Dan will sned yur spellig to heck! :laugh: :doh!:

[nbr3bagshotrow]

Welcome to the forum.

I like it when new members join and actively participate and aren't just trolls looking to start something. Keep active on SF. It's a great place.

And if Sideshow is going to have a wrong link, it should at least send you to either Red Sonja, Lady Death, or Poison Ivy. :dork:

[derekrodneysim]

:laugh:

[DynamicMenace]

You sure didn't wait long before starting your own thread, huh, Ham? :D

Welcome to the treehouse. You'll meet some fone folk here in time. Truth be told, there's nowhere else I'd rather be on the web.

Folks will crack you up, make you cry, you'll go broke and Dan will sned yur spellig to heck! :laugh: :doh!:

:laugh:

[Ham]

I guess SS must've read this thread because they fixed the link. Can't wait for this statue!

[chunkster702]

Finally saw Prometheus. I liked it despite negative reviews.

This piece should be impressive!

[toty21]

Looks like this piece is up next according to the Sideshow website.

[Dragoncurry]

Prometheus took one of the coolest concepts and made it some of the jankiest writing/story direction i've ever seen in my life.

[Python]

Looks like this piece is up next according to the Sideshow website.


Not necessarily, this is the second time the same preview has been put up, it was pulled for some reason... maybe to allow time improve that fused leg pose, won't hold my breath however. Release shouldn't be far off though, it seems to fit in with the time of year.

[Vracula]

Welcome to the forum.

I like it when new members join and actively participate and aren't just trolls looking to start something. Keep active on SF. It's a great place.

And if Sideshow is going to have a wrong link, it should at least send you to either Red Sonja, Lady Death, or Poison Ivy. :dork:

Or you can be an active troll like me.:D

[SSAlex]

Not necessarily, this is the second time the same preview has been put up, it was pulled for some reason... maybe to allow time improve that fused leg pose, won't hold my breath however. Release shouldn't be far off though, it seems to fit in with the time of year.

The preview for this piece was never pulled and has been actively on the Sideshow site since it went up during Comic-Con. It did, however, decide to no longer show on the upcoming products page on the Sideshow Experience site. This piece will be going up for Pre-Order next Thursday (Oct 17th). :-)

[Python]

The preview for this piece was never pulled and has been actively on the Sideshow site since it went up during Comic-Con. It did, however, decide to no longer show on the upcoming products page on the Sideshow Experience site. This piece will be going up for Pre-Order next Thursday (Oct 17th). :-)

Thanks Alex, as you are in a sharing mood, you wouldn't mind telling us when the Big chap LSB is up so I can stay up late with my wallet on standby would you? ;)

[SSAlex]

Thanks Alex, as you are in a sharing mood, you wouldn't mind telling us when the Big chap LSB is up so I can stay up late with my wallet on standby would you? ;)

I don't have an exact Pre-Order date for that item at this time. So sorry.

[Python]

Not yet then, thank you anyway.

[Ham]

The preview for this piece was never pulled and has been actively on the Sideshow site since it went up during Comic-Con. It did, however, decide to no longer show on the upcoming products page on the Sideshow Experience site. This piece will be going up for Pre-Order next Thursday (Oct 17th). :-)

Thanks for the info Alex! Can't wait for this and the Big Chap LSB

[Nitefall]

Or you can be an active troll like me.:D

:laugh: Or an inactive, lazy troll like me. http://i54.tinypic.com/k0q2pi.jpg :D

[derekrodneysim]

:laugh:

[derekrodneysim]

Hi Alex!

Is Sideshow planning to re-release more sold out pieces and calling them "battle-damaged" editions like the Terminator busts? :)

[SSAlex]

Hi Alex!

Is Sideshow planning to re-release more sold out pieces and calling them "battle-damaged" editions like the Terminator busts? :)

I really have little knowledge of future product releases. Of the little I do know I haven't seen any battle damaged item on the roster. If you're talking about the recent terminator busts put back up in the site...these were sold out previously and are being made available again...they are not new battle damaged releases if that's what you were referring to. This question also seems like it's in the wrong thread, ha!

[derekrodneysim]

Ha! You got me there! :D

[DynamicMenace]

I really have little knowledge of future product releases. Of the little I do know I haven't seen any battle damaged item on the roster. If you're talking about the recent terminator busts put back up in the site...these were sold out previously and are being made available again...they are not new battle damaged releases if that's what you were referring to. This question also seems like it's in the wrong thread, ha!

well hopefully SS will do this with some of their older most popular pieces. :thumbs2:

[Atheris]

well hopefully SS will do this with some of their older most popular pieces. :thumbs2:

Snooze you lose, can't make everyone happy as SS says.........unless of course theirs money to be made.

Then better make more to make everyone happy :rolleyes:

Chris

[Python]

well hopefully SS will do this with some of their older most popular pieces. :thumbs2:

That would certainly annoy many people who paid high prices for items under the assumption they were relatively exclusive.... That said, if that is to be the way, I'll take a P1 maquette please ;)

Prices would of course have to be lowered if the edition sizes are not so small due to new runs. Or just make things unlimited so that everyone knows where they stand, and more people can share in the fun with lower prices.. win win.

[SSAlex]

well hopefully SS will do this with some of their older most popular pieces. :thumbs2:

Very unlikely to happen since the majority of pieces have set edition sizes. So all those hoping for a re-run of Hulk PFs, Dr Doom PFs, etc are going to be waiting for the rest of eternity. :)

[Atheris]

Very unlikely to happen since the majority of pieces have set edition sizes. So all those hoping for a re-run of Hulk PFs, Dr Doom PFs, etc are going to be waiting for the rest of eternity. :)

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/So-Youre-Telling-Me-Theres-a-Chance-In-Dumb-and-Dumber-Gif.gif

Chris

[derekrodneysim]

:hilarious: :hilarious: :hilarious:

[s_paulik87]

Unless ssc takes a page from arh studios book I highly doubt this would happen.

[johnny6666]

lolz @ Atheris

[Dirt Torpedo]

Just read that Sideshow have confirmed this is 1/5.

[SSAlex]

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/So-Youre-Telling-Me-Theres-a-Chance-In-Dumb-and-Dumber-Gif.gif

Chris

Total chance once eternity ends. Which should be somewhere in trillions of centuries I believe, so get those wallets ready folks! :thumbs2:

[JohnMatrix]

$400 bucks for 1/5 statue???

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/experience/2013/10/14/a-superior-species-no-doubt-introducing-the-engineer/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=EX_article_asuperiorspeciesnodoubt&utm_campaign=Facebook_101413

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/experience/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/4002471-Zu7184ts-engineer-maquette-001.jpg

[Atheris]

How tall is this? 17"?

Chris

[Nidgit]

Looks pretty cool though.

[PureInvasion]

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/So-Youre-Telling-Me-Theres-a-Chance-In-Dumb-and-Dumber-Gif.gif

Chris

first off... :hilarious:

secondly...$400 for Prometheus... :tumblew:

[Titanchuck]

Looks like he ate pretty good in that sleep chamber

COLLECTION THREAD:

http://www.statueforum.com/showthread.php?t=117778

[SSAlex]

How tall is this? 17"?

Chris

22 inches

[Fremen]

Smaller then I hoped but I will order.

[Atheris]

22 inches

That's what sh...

:confused2

Chris

[Python]

Bad pose and pretty expensive... unfortunate pass.

[DeadGhostKnight]

Could have at least done COH so you could have him masked.

But yeah the legs being so close together really kills it.

[SSAlex]

That's what sh...

:confused2

Chris

That is what I said. :D

[nbr3bagshotrow]

Bad, uninspired and uncharacteristic pose, an undesired scale and expensive... unfortunate pass. This could have been great as well. I hope if this flops big time it doesn't put SS off revisiting the character again properly.
Straight from the movie.

http://www.prometheus-movie.com/media/engineers_behindthescenes19.jpg

[Python]

Not really, while that is probably the closest we'll see, his legs are certainly not fused together there.

[skullsoldier]

I'm friends with a fellow on FB who worked on the film and posted a ton of BTS stuff. The pose, while boring, is a characteristic maquette post. The chunky anatomy appears consistent with the suit. As you can see from the following, the Engineer is a bit portly, has fairly rounded thighs and his hands look disproportionately small. This is due to the fact that the "pressure" suit he is wearing is so large and bulky. That and he's addicted to pasta. Here are some pics from the studio test:

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i285/skullsoldier/Prometheus/Prom18.jpg (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/skullsoldier/media/Prometheus/Prom18.jpg.html)

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i285/skullsoldier/Prometheus/Prom16.jpg (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/skullsoldier/media/Prometheus/Prom16.jpg.html)

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i285/skullsoldier/Prometheus/Prom17.jpg (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/skullsoldier/media/Prometheus/Prom17.jpg.html)

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i285/skullsoldier/Prometheus/556884_403922389646473_1680521648_n.jpg (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/skullsoldier/media/Prometheus/556884_403922389646473_1680521648_n.jpg.html)

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i285/skullsoldier/Prometheus/527753_403921879646524_545882638_n.jpg (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/skullsoldier/media/Prometheus/527753_403921879646524_545882638_n.jpg.html)

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i285/skullsoldier/Prometheus/392507_403922439646468_556273591_n.jpg (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/skullsoldier/media/Prometheus/392507_403922439646468_556273591_n.jpg.html)

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i285/skullsoldier/Prometheus/ALAwZ.jpg (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/skullsoldier/media/Prometheus/ALAwZ.jpg.html)

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i285/skullsoldier/Prometheus/Prom14.jpg (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/skullsoldier/media/Prometheus/Prom14.jpg.html)

[jaguargod]

Is he trying to hold in a pee-pee or something? Looks like the Prometheus line has been handed over to the creative talent who designed the 1/5 Predator line disaster.

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/experience/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/4002471-Zu7184ts-engineer-maquette-001.jpg

[The Mule]

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i285/skullsoldier/Prometheus/Prom17.jpg
...even this alien-nazi hail pose is better than the one chosen. Seriously, you have almost UNLIMITED possibilities for the pose, limited only by imagination and engineering (no pun intended), but still...

[Python]

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i285/skullsoldier/Prometheus/Prom16.jpg (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/skullsoldier/media/Prometheus/Prom16.jpg.html)

This would have been a much better pose. Something in between the two would have been nice though.

[Dirt Torpedo]

I know i'm in the minority as I loved the movie and really looked forward to this but the pose is awful. Who thought that putting his legs together like that was a good idea. :stick:

[Python]

I know i'm in the minority as I loved the movie and really looked forward to this but the pose is awful. Who thought that putting his legs together like that was a good idea. :stick:

I'm in that minority also. I hope there is a second movie to explain a few things.... and a second statue!

[loricstone]

I'm in that minority also. I hope there is a second movie to explain a few things.... and a second statue!

You guys are not in the minority...you are part of the majority.

I thought it was awesome as well.

And what pray tell do you need explained?

[Nitefall]

I'm in that minority also. I hope there is a second movie to explain a few things.... and a second statue!

YES! Would love to see a Queen baby statue too.

[ReplicantSavior]

You guys are rough. The statue looks fine to me. I'm not getting it. I just don't need it. I'm waiting on the line from Hot Toys with Shaw and hopefully Vickers. I guess the Engineer is all Sideshow is making.

Also, is this the first $400 PF/Maquette?!

[Python]

I thought it was awesome as well.

And what pray tell do you need explained?



Really? Did you not leave that movie with a million questions? It's been a few months since I last watched it but off the top of my head, here are a few that stuck with me....

Prometheus spoilers!!

1. Why did the engineers create us and then decide to kill us off?

2. What is the black goo.

3. Why would the engineers leave a star map to a base where they are storing said goo.

4. Why did the black goo have different effects, i.e it killed the engineer instantly (creating human life) But then turned a human into a zombie and indirectly impregnated another..

5. What were the engineers running away from and why during the hologram playbacks. And why did they run into the sealed off room full of the black goo?

6. And probably more importantly, how does any of this relate to Alien? It is clearly a different ship that crashes so it seems we haven't got that far yet and still have more to see.


I enjoyed the film but if it turns out to be a one off my opinion will change, it needs a sequel badly. And the next ship needs a far more competent crew ;)




YES! Would love to see a Queen baby statue too.

That isn't quite what I meant lol, I meant another engineer with a decent pose.

[jaguargod]

Prometheus spoilers!!

1. Why did the engineers create us and then decide to kill us off? I think they created us because they could. I think they decided to kill us because we started to show signs of potential higher intelligence.

2. What is the black goo. Some type of enzyme that initiates the creation or mutation of life.

3. Why would the engineers leave a star map to a base where they are storing said goo. They wanted to show us that they were from a cosmic origin so that we would worship them. They didn't expect us to become advanced enough to use it to find them, which ties into question number one.

4. Why did the black goo have different effects, i.e it killed the engineer instantly (creating human life) But then turned a human into a zombie and indirectly impregnated another..It probably had something to do with the method of entry/contact into the body. All three had different modes of entry.

5. What were the engineers running away from and why during the hologram playbacks. And why did they run into the sealed off room full of the black goo? Probably the same thing that came out of the Engineer at the end. I think the vial room was still safe and secure at that time.

6. And probably more importantly, how does any of this relate to Alien? It is clearly a different ship that crashes so it seems we haven't got that far yet and still have more to see. I don't think it would directly tie into Alien until at least the third movie, if ever. The Engineer suits, flight room, and creature at the end are definitely pointing in the general direction of Alien.

At least, that is what I think.

[derekrodneysim]

You're making some sense, jg. Careful. Someone with your understanding may be a threat to these Engineers :D

[derekrodneysim]

Why can't the exclusive be a helmet that he could actually wear? These display options that you keep on the side is boring. Switch-out head works well in this case.

Looks pretty good, but I like my maquette's 1:4. In all likelihood, this will be a pass for me.

[DeadGhostKnight]

5. What were the engineers running away from and why during the hologram playbacks. And why did they run into the sealed off room full of the black goo? Probably the same thing that came out of the Engineer at the end. I think the vial room was still safe and secure at that time.


See the "Alien" that bursts out of the Engineer at the end must have been unique and the first of its kind as the process's it went through were so unique.

It went from the liquid that was dropped into the guys body, which was then transferred to the girl via sex, then the squid thing that was birthed then implanted an egg in the engineer.....that's such a specific process to create such a unique being.

So it must have been something else that scared the Engineers.....it might have just been infected Engineers....who knows.

[jaguargod]

See the "Alien" that bursts out of the Engineer at the end must have been unique and the first of its kind as the process's it went through were so unique.

It went from the liquid that was dropped into the guys body, which was then transferred to the girl via sex, then the squid thing that was birthed then implanted an egg in the engineer.....that's such a specific process to create such a unique being.

So it must have been something else that scared the Engineers.....it might have just been infected Engineers....who knows.

I agree with it going through a process in present time that would not have been possible at the time of the hologram. However, considering how "alien" in structure her fetus was, I'm not sure that it is influenced by the host, like the traditional aliens have been. I think it is more likely that the squid stage of the organism is constant, and the organism that it implants takes on some characteristics of the host. I think the organism was transferred to her through intercourse, but it developed in her body outside of the reproductive process. I think we could both be right. They could have been running from an infection. The decapitated Engineer appeared to be infected, as we saw when they reanimated the head. We also saw the creature burst from the Engineer at the end, and earlier we saw stacks of dead Engineers with burst wounds. It could have been from the infection, or possibly from more live births.

[skullsoldier]

Why can't the exclusive be a helmet that he could actually wear? These display options that you keep on the side is boring. Switch-out head works well in this case.

Looks pretty good, but I like my maquette's 1:4. In all likelihood, this will be a pass for me.

The helmet doesn't go with that particular "suit." The Maquette suit is considered a "pressure" suit - it goes underneath the outer-suit worn by the Engineer's as seen in the original Alien and also when the Engineers are attempting to escape the unseen threat (the hologram).

[Python]

Well, for anyone that may actually be interested... he is up.

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/collectibles/prometheus-engineer-sideshow-collectibles-4002471/


22" tall and ED TBD, Presumably to gauge the interest before putting out a very low number.

Oh and as we already knew... $400!!!

[skullsoldier]

Not surprisingly, I ordered.

[Igo]

The helmet doesn't go with that particular "suit." The Maquette suit is considered a "pressure" suit - it goes underneath the outer-suit worn by the Engineer's as seen in the original Alien and also when the Engineers are attempting to escape the unseen threat (the hologram).

Fact.

I worked with Zane on the design of this and we got that question asked a lot internally and from marketing.

[jaguargod]

Igo,

What was the thought process on the legs sculpt? Does he have an overactive bladder, or is he about to raise up on his tip toes ballet-style?

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/experience/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/4002471-Zu7184ts-engineer-maquette-001.jpg

[Igo]

What was the thought process on the legs sculpt? Does he have an overactive bladder, or is he about to raise up on his tip toes ballet-style?

...yes.

[Python]

I think they tried to make him look graceful, a nice idea that didn't quite work in reality due to the fused look on a statue. A little separation of the feet would make a world of difference. It probably isn't too late either although I'm not sure I've ever seen SS change a design after it is up for order?

[Nidgit]

Guys . . . please remember to keep any discussion about what actually happens in the movie, to the movie section and no spoilers please - thanks :thumbs2:

[Viper245]

Congrats on your recent ascension to Mod-hood brother Nidgit! :thumbs2:

[Nitefall]

Well, for anyone that may actually be interested... he is up.

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/collectibles/prometheus-engineer-sideshow-collectibles-4002471/


22" tall and ED TBD, Presumably to gauge the interest before putting out a very low number.

Oh and as we already knew... $400!!!

:buttrock: He is going to look very imposing at that size. Also the size will make this pose look very impressive I feel. (think I just said the same thing :doh!:) Great job Sideshow!:buttrock:

[Nidgit]

Thanks Viper mate. Just trying to help out :)

[The Mule]

He's around Malgus dimensions, but at $20 more... thing is that Malgus had:
-fabric cape
-new light up system for lightsaber
-two heads (for the Ex)
-more light up added mid-production (which, I suppose, costs more than apply it since the beginning)
-a more important license

I can hardly justify the price on this one and the pose is poorly chosen, to say the best. I didn't like the movie at all but the Engineer design is interesting so I was looking for this one for my sci fi collection (which is non existent at the moment, lol).

A 1/4 piece with a crouching pose (like when he emerges from its cryosleep capsule or whatever it is and falls on his knee) would have been great if they nailed the huge muscle mass and that pose would have given him decent dimensions without being too big.

[DeadGhostKnight]

Just having those feet further apart and changing the arm/hand positions would have made this a winner for me.

It's just too awkward for me to pay $400 for and that's a real shame because i loved Prometheus and there's a real lack of Statues/Props being made.

[Igo]

He's around Malgus dimensions, but at $20 more... thing is that Malgus had:
-fabric cape
-new light up system for lightsaber
-two heads (for the Ex)
-more light up added mid-production (which, I suppose, costs more than apply it since the beginning)
-a more important license

Not to make an argument for the price on this piece, but just so you're not as misinformed on what you think you know:

- more often than you think, all sculpt projects cost more than fabric projects. Paint apps on bigger surfaces, masking, layering, etc, take a lot more time to nail and QC than something that can be patterned. Not to take away from cut & sew, obviously there are tons of complexities to those kinds of projects, but just because "it has cut & sew" doesnt make it synonymous with "more involved / expensive." Sometimes it's the opposite.

- this basically has two heads too, but one of them has a stand.

- most product with light-up options have to be re-worked in China 99% of the time anyways, so no, it's not more expensive.

Thanks for your assumptions, they are always appreciated.

[Atheris]

Not to make an argument for the price on this piece, but just so you're not as misinformed on what you think you know:

- more often than you think, all sculpt projects cost more than fabric projects. Paint apps on bigger surfaces, masking, layering, etc, take a lot more time to nail and QC than something that can be patterned. Not to take away from cut & sew, obviously there are tons of complexities to those kinds of projects, but just because "it has cut & sew" doesnt make it synonymous with "more involved / expensive." Sometimes it's the opposite.

- this basically has two heads too, but one of them has a stand.

- most product with light-up options have to be re-worked in China 99% of the time anyways, so no, it's not more expensive.

Thanks for your assumptions, they are always appreciated.

Can you explain the LSF Wolverine?

Would I be correct in "assuming" the opposite is true for that piece? Yet, it's pricing contradicts your statement.

Chris

[jaguargod]

Not to make an argument for the price on this piece, but just so you're not as misinformed on what you think you know:

- more often than you think, all sculpt projects cost more than fabric projects. Paint apps on bigger surfaces, masking, layering, etc, take a lot more time to nail and QC than something that can be patterned. Not to take away from cut & sew, obviously there are tons of complexities to those kinds of projects, but just because "it has cut & sew" doesnt make it synonymous with "more involved / expensive." Sometimes it's the opposite.

- this basically has two heads too, but one of them has a stand.

- most product with light-up options have to be re-worked in China 99% of the time anyways, so no, it's not more expensive.

Thanks for your assumptions, they are always appreciated.

Since SS doesn't do any of these things well on a consistent basis, they shouldn't be justification for higher cost.

[Igo]

Would I be correct in "assuming" the opposite is true for that piece? Yet, it's pricing contradicts your statement.

We've done, what? 1 fully sculpted 1:2 piece in the past (MK III) with MK VII around the corner? So what are you comparing the Wolverine LSF to?

Just here to clear up what some people always assume without stopping to think that a complex paint job on something like The Engineer might be more invovled than certain cut & sew elements... MIGHT, SOMETIMES... NOT ALWAYS.

[Dirt Torpedo]

I think he looks like John Hartson.

[The Mule]

Not to make an argument for the price on this piece, but just so you're not as misinformed on what you think you know:

- more often than you think, all sculpt projects cost more than fabric projects. Paint apps on bigger surfaces, masking, layering, etc, take a lot more time to nail and QC than something that can be patterned. Not to take away from cut & sew, obviously there are tons of complexities to those kinds of projects, but just because "it has cut & sew" doesnt make it synonymous with "more involved / expensive." Sometimes it's the opposite.

I may be mistaken, but Malgus is a fully scuplted figure (as is the engineer) with the plus of the cape. That's what I meant, same cost of the fully sculpt with the addon of the fabric.

- this basically has two heads too, but one of them has a stand.

I must say that from a customer's point of view, it's not exactly the same thig, a switch portrait and a mask on a stand. I like the fact that you can display together the mask woth the Engineer (while you can't display two different portraits together), but I personally think it's a scarce exclusive, maybe it would have helped to swallow the price include that piece in the regular edition .

I didn't know about the light up and I admit I don't know much about the process behind the making of a statue, I was reasoning out of simple logic cause I find the overall statue is underwhelming for the money it demands, and it's sad but the price point definitely makes a huge difference between buying and passing. Hope that The Dead line stays lower from this point of view.


PS I greatly appreciate the time you take to pop here to answer some questions, it really helps to shed some light on many questions that often remain unanswered until the product is in hand :)

[PureInvasion]

Just here to clear up what some people always assume without stopping to think that a complex paint job on something like The Engineer might be more invovled than certain cut & sew elements... MIGHT, SOMETIMES... NOT ALWAYS.

if the factories can nail the more involved paint jobs then pieces could command higher prices. Most pieces though end up looking slightly flat on the finished product usuallyy lacking the detailed layering/shadowing of the proto. So while the more involved paint jobs might indeed be more complex...should we be paying the cost of the product we're initially shown or the cost of the product that we'll actually receive after the 1+ year wait?

[Python]

should we be paying the cost of the product we're initially shown or the cost of the product that we'll actually receive after the 1+ year wait?


This is the big question, I think the answer is clearly no. I really think SS should stop showing us the prototypes as we will never receive anything as beautiful as some of those. They should make the first batch, Announce it with pictures of an actual production piece and ship it straight away. That way we know exactly what to expect and don't have to wait another year...Win, win...

[toty21]

This is the big question, I think the answer is clearly no. I really think SS should stop showing us the prototypes as we will never receive anything as beautiful as some of those. They should make the first batch, Announce it with pictures of an actual production piece and ship it straight away. That way we know exactly what to expect and don't have to wait another year...Win, win...

That is a brilliant idea. Doesn't Enterbay do that?

[Python]

Not sure, it just makes sense to me, I guess the worry is that they could end up stuck with a product nobody wants. If the quality is okay though they should be just fine. Impulse buys were certainly go up if the items were readily available.

[jaguargod]

This is the big question, I think the answer is clearly no. I really think SS should stop showing us the prototypes as we will never receive anything as beautiful as some of those. They should make the first batch, Announce it with pictures of an actual production piece and ship it straight away. That way we know exactly what to expect and don't have to wait another year...Win, win...

Or they could include a disclaimer on the product page saying that this was painted by a trained professional. What you will receive was painted by someone making $5 a day who could have been a farmer a week ago. Adjust your expectations accordingly.

[Atheris]

Or they could include a disclaimer on the product page saying that this was painted by a trained professional. What you will receive was painted by someone making $5 a day who could have been a farmer a week ago. Adjust your expectations accordingly.

:laugh:

Chris

[MonsterBalls]

Or they could include a disclaimer on the product page saying that this was painted by a trained professional. What you will receive was painted by someone making $5 a day who could have been a farmer a week ago. Adjust your expectations accordingly.

http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mj-laughing.gif

I humbly thank you for making me see the light, bring on Jean and Apocalypse!

[derekrodneysim]

:laugh:

You guys crack me up!

But come on, guys, give David a break will ya? While he works at SS, he is not SS. He's one of us too.

[Igo]

Derek, you're ok.

And I base all of my decisions on forum polls...

[The Mule]

Nobody is bashing Igo here, he does a great job as the rest of the team, but I think that as customers (paying customers) is totally acceptable to raise a couple of doubts about a piece.
It's legit to say that the pose of this statue is lackluster, this opinion gathered a good amount of consensus here.
It's legit to say that the exclusive is not exciting or essential.
It's legit to say that the price point is steep and hardly justified, you can compare this statue to other pieces - I made the comparison with Malgus, how about the Diablo statue? That comes at 21" and costs $50 less, with a more complex base and a complex paint app too, plus light up. We can go on forever with similar comparisons.
Most of all, the fact is not that this statue is ugly or particularly poor (it isn't, at least, not the proto) - the fact is that this is a missed opportunity (imho). Another statue that 'could have been'.

I simply think it's legit - when someone drops $400+ for something - to raise a couple questions. And this doesn't mean I/we are here to bash Igo, I mean, from my point of view his interventions are greatly appreciated, at least he pops here from time to time and gives answers and opinions and so on.

PS: Should Igo post again here, sorry for the off topic but... any chance, even slight, to see produced the Dead Goat Wtf Demon? That's gold and its thread is doomed to pop up in the first page forever 'til SS approves it.

[GedTasker]

This is the big question, I think the answer is clearly no. I really think SS should stop showing us the prototypes as we will never receive anything as beautiful as some of those. They should make the first batch, Announce it with pictures of an actual production piece and ship it straight away. That way we know exactly what to expect and don't have to wait another year...Win, win...


:goodpost: This is definitely how it should be done!!

[Python]

If only hey.

[Igo]

Mule and friends, you guys have every right in the world as paying customers to vent your concerns about anything you want, plus, it's a forum board so who's gonna stop you unless you maliciously attack me unwarranted then hopefully you'd be banished to Permabannville.

It just comes down to a lot of that is totally out of my control as Im on the design/prototype end. So, if you think it looks like he's holding in a fart, that's the type of stuff I can answer for.

I listen to everything here regardless, and I try to affect things I think I can, and even sh!t I cant, I still like trying. But, you cant do everything...

[derekrodneysim]

The next time any piece looks like it's holding in a fart, you've got hell to answer for then, Dave :battherapy:

[Atheris]

ES 200

http://86failavenue.com/images/fail-gif-pingu.gif

Chris

[derekrodneysim]

:laugh:

What's the penguin for, Chris? :laugh:

[Nitefall]

ES 200

http://86failavenue.com/images/fail-gif-pingu.gif

Chris

:laugh: Poor guy. I hope he's not as sad and dejected as he looks.

[dao2]

Or they could include a disclaimer on the product page saying that this was painted by a trained professional. What you will receive was painted by someone making $5 a day who could have been a farmer a week ago. Adjust your expectations accordingly.

So we're supposed to just guess? Cause it really is hit or miss. Prototypes are NOT supposed to be better. By definition it is an early sample, and in most cases WORSE than a final production sample. What SS shows are not prototypes by any stretch, they are advertisement pieces. Sure they could include a disclaimer that you're not going to get something painted as good, but then what would be the point of posting their bait and switch in the first place? Telling people that you're doing false advertising does not help you advertise :P Though it's not like SS are the only ones to do it like this, they're just do it a lot worse then everybody (pieces made for copying by mass production vs one offs that look pretty).

[Fremen]

Not a lot of love for this on here but I ordered the EX today. I liked what I saw from pics at SDCC and I decided then I would get this guy.

[nbr3bagshotrow]

The next time any piece looks like it's holding in a fart, you've got hell to answer for then, Dave :battherapy:

See number 5

http://www.oddee.com/item_98612.aspx

[Nidgit]

Not a lot of love for this on here but I ordered the EX today. I liked what I saw from pics at SDCC and I decided then I would get this guy.

I like him, but I just like some other stuff more. May end up ordering one later :)

[Python]

I would buy one if they just separated the legs slightly, the fused look isn't good.

[FROBAY]

I ordered day 1. Nice to see a low edition size, they are rare nowadays.

[Python]

I imagine that is just a result of slow sales isn't it? There doesn't seem to be much love for the pose on this one.

[MASTERSAFARA]

I think the low es on this is due to low interest. I mean it's been on less than 10 going on a week now. Furthermore, I'd be inclined to believe after Prometheus 2 aka Paradise is released we'll see a new collectible of some sort that will trump this piece.

[dao2]

It's cool and all and looks nice, but the movie was pretty ass :|

[Python]

I'm still hoping we'll see another engineer in his full flight suit, hope the poor sales on this one haven't ruined that possibility.

[ALIEN]

www.mothersbasement.co.uk has CEASED TRADING!!!

Ended 3rd Feb 2014.

Such a shame to see these small companies closing, there are not enough online dealers in the UK selling collectible stuff.

ALIEN

[SideShowJoe]

Less than 10 left, i would pull trigger but we didn't like movie!! If you guys are wanting this get it now, this is not a fake sell out when only 200 will exist! I think.. ahhaha

Sarah

[Python]

It has been less than 10 for some time now however. The fused legs and price really put people off it seems. I'll buy a full flight suited Engineer if they do it right.

[Silas Loki]

I was considering this, but price, look and scale killed it dead.

[jaguargod]

Why doesn't Sideshow just employ the aid of fan-based focus groups? Even someone with no knowledge of the character could have pointed out that the leg sculpt was not going to be popular.

[Sithlord32]

Why doesn't Sideshow just employ the aid of fan-based focus groups? Even someone with no knowledge of the character could have pointed out that the leg sculpt was not going to be popular.

Right. I dont remember ever seeing him in such a stupid looking pose in the movie.
They should have done one from the opening sequence...lots of variations there to be had or bring the scale down a touch and have him fighting with the giant face hugger would have been a win.

[Silas Loki]

The thing that annoys me the most about these types of situations, similar to the Commander Shepard debacle, is that Sideshow will likely interpret the lack of sales to be because of a perceived lack of interest in the genre, or a lack of desire for Prometheus or Mass Effect statues / collectibles (in Shepard's case).

I honestly think SS would never equate poor sales to be because of anything they themselves have done wrong, whether that be poor final quality, poor art direction, or poor marketing decisions.

[jaguargod]

The thing that annoys me the most about these types of situations, similar to the Commander Shepard debacle, is that Sideshow will likely interpret the lack of sales to be because of a perceived lack of interest in the genre, or a lack of desire for Prometheus or Mass Effect statues / collectibles (in Shepard's case).

I honestly think SS would never equate poor sales to be because of anything they themselves have done wrong, whether that be poor final quality, poor art direction, or poor marketing decisions.

That is exactly what will be their downfall. They don't learn from their mistakes. They believe that everything they touch turns to gold, and when something fails to meet expectations, it was someone else's fault.

[chezzrok]

It has been less than 10 for some time now however. The fused legs and price really put people off it seems. I'll buy a full flight suited Engineer if they do it right.

yep! The fused legs are what put me off from p/o this piece, as I loved the movie!

[Python]

Me too, I'd love if SS would involve people in the development stages, while many people are never likely to agree on the over all look of any given piece, it would help avoid many silly design mistakes/decisions.. I'd probably have this on PO now if we had been... and the P2 maquette would certainly have benefited.

[Solarsailor]

I'm in for this, looks like my order changed it to "checking".

[Dirt Torpedo]

Loved the movie, hated the maquette.

[SideShowJoe]

Loved the movie, hated the maquette.

I don't like the statue or movie! But for all those who ordered I hope it turns out nice for you!!

Sarah

[Solarsailor]

I love the movie and with Prom 2 green lit we might get all sorts of strange organic looking beast's in a few years.

I really wish the Helmet came as a switch out, a very strange choice but it's a cool addition.

My two favorite franchises are Predator and Alien and for $400 now it seems like a no brainer.

[MASTERSAFARA]

A coh would have been cool. I'm not big on the ex accessory for this one.

[Solarsailor]

A coh would have been cool. I'm not big on the ex accessory for this one.

I really like the Helmet but you would have thought it would have been simple to just make a peg in the bottom and a slot for both heads.

I mean why go to the bother of designing the helmet if it wont fit.

Saying that I think it will look cool sitting next to the statue.

[Python]

I really wish the Helmet came as a switch out, a very strange choice but it's a cool addition.

The helmet doesn't go with this suit, this is his underwear if you like... it would be like a storm trooper wearing his helmet with his pants and vest on :smokin:

That said I can understand why so many people have been asking that question and I hope we get a second engineer in full flight suit with that switch out head! :buttrock: Hopefully SS will understand that there is plenty of love out there for the character despite this flop.

[MASTERSAFARA]

I feel bad for this piece. Hurry 10 or less going on two weeks to checking inventory back to 10 or less...

[Python]

Some people have no shame... $700! at least we know where two of these ended up.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sideshow-Engineer-Exclusive-Statue-Aliens-Prometheus-Movie-/321319875160

[Python]

500 ES on the regular... and a heck of a job top find it on Sideshows site, I had to google it in the end as the search function doesn't seem to work, I was beginning to think the regular may have been cancelled all together.

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/collectibles/prometheus-engineer-sideshow-collectibles-400247/

[Viper245]

500 ES on the regular... and a heck of a job top find it on Sideshows site, I had to google it in the end as the search function doesn't seem to work, I was beginning to think the regular may have been cancelled all together.

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/collectibles/prometheus-engineer-sideshow-collectibles-400247/

If you search on Sideshow's product archive page, the EX shows up.

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/archive?hasWP=0&show_hidden=1&archive=y&search=engineer

[JRodri2540]

When I hit the pre-order button it gives me an error message; Invalid Item: 400247

[Python]

I didn't even know they had an archive page so I suspect many others don't. Point was it is very hard to find which is no doubt losing them sales, I think there has been a little bit of a mess up with the regular link, I have let them know.

[cartman5579]

I don't think it was a mistake, i think the reg was cancelled and now this has a total ES of 200, all EX.

[Dirt Torpedo]

Such a shame. If it hadn't been for the pose I'd have jumped all over this.

[AlizAbef]

Wow just an ES of 200 to include the EX and no Reg. This garnered zero interest. The movie was cool, though. So much for the Engineer...

[Dirt Torpedo]

This has got a reg. it was confirmed by Sideshow.

[Python]

I don't think it was a mistake, i think the reg was cancelled and now this has a total ES of 200, all EX.

I did wonder that at first, but I think the regular is still go. I really do hope they do a fully suited version.

EDIT: Confirmed over on the freaks board, the regular is still go.

[jaguargod]

I bet the design team will pay more attention to the position of the legs from now on. This statue would have been more well received if it didnt have the weird legs. Hopefully they realize that the low interest was due to the design and not the character, because I think the Engineer deserves a revisit at some point.

[ALI3NS]

If any one's interested, my waitlist for the ex converted in less than 2 days...

[loricstone]

I bet the design team will pay more attention to the position of the legs from now on. This statue would have been more well received if it didnt have the weird legs. Hopefully they realize that the low interest was due to the design and not the character, because I think the Engineer deserves a revisit at some point.

How about its not just because of the pose, but MAINLY due to the fact it's NOT A PF.

That is the reason why I did not pre-order it. I ONLY buy 1:4 or bigger for statues. No 1/5 crap, no 1/6 rip-off plastic figures (this is not a direct shot at SS...just in general).

[Mascarade]

How about its not just because of the pose, but MAINLY due to the fact it's NOT A PF.

That is the reason why I did not pre-order it. I ONLY buy 1:4 or bigger for statues. No 1/5 crap, no 1/6 rip-off plastic figures (this is not a direct shot at SS...just in general).
1/5 has given me some of the best statues i have ever seen...mythos, comiquettes etc.

[toe]

Nice sculpt. I don't like the choice of pose tho.