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CAIN MKII
08-10-2014, 12:10 AM
Tired of wasting your hard earn money on some over priced plastic toy with a rubber dome rotting as soon as it is exposed to the air?
Well, accepte no substitute.
Under the expertise of Studio Tippett, Anticlaus and Phil himself, chronicle is about to release the one and only studio accurate replica of ED-209 1/6 stop-mo puppet.
This bad boy is in scale with Cain replica and the soon to be announced Robocop statue, Robocop failed prototypes A and B.
Yes, you red right. You can expect a complete line of Robocop franchise statues, 1/6 scale, made of resin and steel.
That will be one hell of a display for any hard core Robocop fans as us.
For now, ED-209 is on pre-order on Chronicle collectibles website with several payment plans offering here :
http://www.chroniclecollectibles.com/legacy-series/ed-209/

And visit their facebook page to get some red hot updates and never seen before pictures.
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Chronicle CS
08-20-2014, 10:30 AM
A few behind the scenes shots:

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Chronicle CS
08-20-2014, 10:30 AM
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CAIN MKII
08-20-2014, 03:25 PM
All those tiny details ignite my eyes and my heart

El Diablo
08-20-2014, 05:41 PM
yeah the detailing on this thing is awesome :buttrock:

Nidgit
08-20-2014, 07:39 PM
yeah the detailing on this thing is awesome :buttrock:

Absolutely. It's like a high end RC model.

Where do the batteries go :D

Doctor Doom
08-20-2014, 08:04 PM
Truly outstanding work with a keen keen keen sense for the details! If I liked the character more I'd scoop him up for sure! :buttrock:

Spazzy
08-21-2014, 02:32 AM
wow that's nice!

El Diablo
08-21-2014, 08:23 AM
Absolutely. It's like a high end RC model.

Where do the batteries go :D

Ohhhh a fully working animatronic ed-209 would be AWESOME! I'd definitely have him scouting the garden and be giving the neighbours cat '10 seconds to comply' in getting the f@@k off my lawn!

Chronicle CS
08-21-2014, 10:02 AM
Here are some new Product shots on ED-209.

Paul

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The SHOGUN
08-21-2014, 10:34 AM
nice pics. Paul, what are the dimensions of ED-209? I'm specifically interseted in the height of the ED-209 figure.

CAIN MKII
08-21-2014, 01:18 PM
Chronicle collectibles bring us perfection :thumbs2:

El Diablo
08-21-2014, 01:31 PM
ed looks awesome, glad the base was cleaned up and made bigger it looks perfect now :thumbs2:

thx217
08-21-2014, 03:28 PM
Awesome! Thanks for the new shots, Paul.

Chronicle CS
08-21-2014, 03:52 PM
""nice pics. Paul, what are the dimensions of ED-209? I'm specifically interseted in the height of the ED-209 figure.""

SHOGUN,

ED-209 was molded from the original masers and original puppet.

https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10392471_1453188854940955_9059156072985089541_n.jpg?oh=b3bdb8499432cf0a50f0ca2e3068c026&oe=54655276

He is a mountain of parts.

Here are the dimensions, I pulled him out of the box and put him back together since Jerseyfest.

Ed is 13" tall. 14.5" standing on the base.

The base is 15" wide. Plaque is 4" wide.

Ed is 10" wide and 12" long in his current pose.

Hope this helps guys,

Paul

Chronicle CS
08-21-2014, 03:54 PM
""ed looks awesome, glad the base was cleaned up and made bigger it looks perfect now :thumbs2:""

El Diablo,

We made the changes to the base due to comments made here on the Statue Forum.

We also made changes to the elbow, decals and color based on comments as well.

Paul

El Diablo
08-21-2014, 05:27 PM
well it's great to have a company listen to it's customers :thumbs2: makes a welcome change.
I really like the pose on ed now also, I wasn't sure when I first saw it but I'd actually pick this pose over the standard on guard pose you normally see for ed the feeling of movement is captured very well :)

Nidgit
08-21-2014, 06:39 PM
Wow . . . that parts list is just amazing.

The SHOGUN
08-21-2014, 06:59 PM
""nice pics. Paul, what are the dimensions of ED-209? I'm specifically interseted in the height of the ED-209 figure.""

SHOGUN,

ED-209 was molded from the original masers and original puppet.

https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10392471_1453188854940955_9059156072985089541_n.jpg?oh=b3bdb8499432cf0a50f0ca2e3068c026&oe=54655276

He is a mountain of parts.

Here are the dimensions, I pulled him out of the box and put him back together since Jerseyfest.

Ed is 13" tall. 14.5" standing on the base.

The base is 15" wide. Plaque is 4" wide.

Ed is 10" wide and 12" long in his current pose.

Hope this helps guys,

Paul
Thanks for the breakdown.

Atheris
08-28-2014, 11:04 AM
Secret compass has ED-209 at the pay in full discount!

http://www.secretcompassonline.com/RoboCop-ED-209-Statue

Chris

thx217
08-28-2014, 12:19 PM
Good deal compare with some EU prices..

Chronicle CS
08-28-2014, 09:38 PM
Yes, for a limited time, it's the same on our website as well.

Paul

dfchang
09-02-2014, 01:46 AM
Secret compass has ED-209 at the pay in full discount!

http://www.secretcompassonline.com/RoboCop-ED-209-Statue

Chris

Do they require deposit?

Vader
09-02-2014, 09:14 AM
is there a big difference between this and the hot toys piece?

CAIN MKII
09-02-2014, 11:45 AM
A huge difference:
it is a statue.
it is a 100% accurate replica of the movie prop.
it has no crappy rubber dome

rhy
09-02-2014, 12:03 PM
A huge difference:
it is a statue.
it is a 100% accurate replica of the movie prop.
it has no crappy rubber dome
This...I actually returned mine and plan on picking up Chronicles. This is my go to company for all things Robo

thx217
09-02-2014, 01:02 PM
is there a big difference between this and the hot toys piece?

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk122/RazinAlexandria/Moviewmv.gif


:laugh:

Vader
09-02-2014, 01:03 PM
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk122/RazinAlexandria/Moviewmv.gif


:laugh:

I guess that's a yes :)

Vader
09-02-2014, 01:05 PM
is the ed-209 set in a fixed position on base?

thx217
09-02-2014, 01:08 PM
is the ed-209 set in a fixed position on base?

Yes, Sir. :)

CAIN MKII
09-02-2014, 02:23 PM
This...I actually returned mine and plan on picking up Chronicles. This is my go to company for all things Robo

Way to go my friend, disappointment-proof ;)

Nidgit
09-02-2014, 06:08 PM
is there a big difference between this and the hot toys piece?

The major difference is that these are highly detailed prop replica's. Chronicle have taken the original stop motion puppets and cast every part to create these replicas. So rather than a statue which is cast from a handful of pieces, Chronicle's 209 & Cain have hundreds of individual parts, just like those stop-mo puppets we saw in the movie.

Closest thing you can get to owning an actual piece of cinematic history, short of owning the original props.

Vader
09-02-2014, 10:26 PM
Is there going to be a robocop statue that goes with this? will it be a 1/6 scale or larger?

Nidgit
09-02-2014, 11:45 PM
Is there going to be a robocop statue that goes with this? will it be a 1/6 scale or larger?

So far they have the ED-209 and Cain up for pre-order.

My understanding is that Chronicle are also considering a Robocop figure in the same scale and possibly some of the prototype 'Robocops' from part 2. They have also suggested a larger 1:4 scale Cain bust with open head 'screen' display. And maybe some life sized pieces as well.

I'm sure Paul from Chronicle can correct me if I got anything wrong, but I believe subsequent Robocop releases will depend on the success of both Cain and ED-209 . . . . so get in there and order now :D

Atheris
09-03-2014, 12:25 AM
Do they require deposit?

I think I sent Shane $100 to reserve one.

Chris

dfchang
09-03-2014, 12:31 AM
I think I sent Shane $100 to reserve one.

Chris

Reasonable... They take care good care of you in event of damage, returns, etc?

rhy
09-03-2014, 06:54 AM
Way to go my friend, disappointment-proof ;)
totally agree. To quote the main man
Closest thing you can get to owning an actual piece of cinematic history, short of owning the original props.

CAIN MKII
09-03-2014, 01:25 PM
Is there going to be a robocop statue that goes with this? will it be a 1/6 scale or larger?

Yes, Paul talked about making two 1/6 scale Robocop statues. They will come in two flavors:
first and second movie colors variation with an iconic pose from each movie.

thx217
09-03-2014, 02:39 PM
Is there going to be a robocop statue that goes with this? will it be a 1/6 scale or larger?

Just pull the trigger on 209 and Cain, V. International orders will make 1000 pcs like 100 pcs. Beside, if you want the Robo statue to happen, just to help Chronicle to make the decision much easier. :D

Atheris
09-03-2014, 02:56 PM
Reasonable... They take care good care of you in event of damage, returns, etc?

Shane has been nothing but good to me ever since I started dealing with him. Always quick to respond to emails and follow up. Always covered me with returns and replacements. I've been dealing with him since 2010, never had a problem.

Chris

Nidgit
09-03-2014, 06:40 PM
Shane has been nothing but good to me ever since I started dealing with him. Always quick to respond to emails and follow up. Always covered me with returns and replacements. I've been dealing with him since 2010, never had a problem.

Chris

I've bought a lot of stuff from Shane over the years and never had anything but a great experience. :thumbs2:

thx217
09-03-2014, 10:20 PM
Yea, Shane is solid.

Vader
09-03-2014, 11:42 PM
I missed a couple of pre-orders through secret compass (as they were allocated). I feel safer buying directly from the retailer now. I guess I don't have the same history with Shane.

Vader
09-03-2014, 11:48 PM
Just pull the trigger on 209 and Cain, V. International orders will make 1000 pcs like 100 pcs. Beside, if you want the Robo statue to happen, just to help Chronicle to make the decision much easier. :D

I'm in for cain and ed-209.

Did they do a robocop 1/6 scale replica for filming the movie, or will it just be an original sculpt?

ZenLogikos
09-04-2014, 01:46 AM
I'm in for cain and ed-209.

Did they do a robocop 1/6 scale replica for filming the movie, or will it just be an original sculpt?

They did - for stop-motion scenes used when fighting ED or Cain.

I wouldn't consider a 1/6 RoboCop from Chronicle quite as definitive as their ED and Cain though. I prefer PCS' usage of the actual Weller suit, in creating their 1/4.

It will be interesting to see Chronicle's pricing on a 1/6 puppet replica, compared to PCS' 1/4 suit replica.

thx217
09-04-2014, 02:17 AM
They did - for stop-motion scenes used when fighting ED or Cain.

I wouldn't consider a 1/6 RoboCop from Chronicle quite as definitive as their ED and Cain though. I prefer PCS' usage of the actual Weller suit, in creating their 1/4.

It will be interesting to see Chronicle's pricing on a 1/6 puppet replica, compared to PCS' 1/4 suit replica.

I agree with you on Chronicle's yet to be seen 1/6.

But I wouldn't say PCS's 1/4 is a "suit replica". Based on what I've seen so far, it still need a bit of work to get there. Don't get me wrong, PCS's 1st attempt so far is good, but using the suit as the references to create a scaled replica does NOT mean it's the most accurate out there. The piece was sculpted, not 3D scanned and sized down print outs. There are things I can point out about the PCS suit that need some tweakage. But hey, it's it what it is. No one get this kind of stuff right on the first go. Unless, like Chronicle, they go straight to the source and replicate the thing IN SCALE with the original. It may not apply to the possiable 1/6 of course.

With that said, PCS's 1st attempt is great(compare to Sideshow sad attempt). Can't say it's there since it's missing some very characteristic stance. Not to mention the face sculpt(HT is way ahead of it in terms of likeness), the whole head needs work.

Personally, I'd love to see a tweaked PCS body with HT's latest 1/4 head sculpt/helmet(if it exists). That's something I'd send my credit card info over in a heart beat.

Nidgit
09-04-2014, 02:40 AM
Here is Paul's comment from the 'Ask Chronicle' thread:

We plan on doing Robocop in two different styles and colors. Mark Dubeau of Tippett Studios is going to oversee this process personally. The puppets for Robocop were crude and for Robocop 2 they recast Horizon model kits to make the puppets.

We didn't want to use either of those options to make our replica. So Mark (the guy that made the Robocop Detroit files) scanned the original suit that Phil Tippett owns and is making it movie accurate in every way for both films.

There are subtle differences in the design of the suits from Robocop to Robocop 2. There are also glaring paint differences.

I would like to make each one as if he lives in the puppet's universe so if you displayed them together, they fit to a specific scene.

Being 1/6th scale we hope to hit that $150 price range and offer several arms and head options. I don't know if that will be possible because Hot Toys license is for multiple part toys. We may end up having to make a resin statue, but it should be very accurate with the original suits we have for reference.

We need to finish up ED-209 and Cain before we start Robocop, but he's on our list.

Chronicle CS
09-04-2014, 10:43 AM
Hey Guys,

Great stuff, love the way you keep it rolling over here. I don't think you need me at all....

First up Shane at Secret Compass is one of a handful of companies that are allowed to carry Cain and Ed in the USA.

ED-209 is as close as you will ever get to the actual screen used puppet, it's molded part for part. We even made changes based on comments from the SF regarding a few changes that were made for Robocop 3. We've made all the changes to get it 100% accurate to several scenes in Robocop.

Our Robocop will be coming next year and it will be the most accurate version ever offered. How do we know this? Phil Tippett owns an original suit and we are scanning it and working with Tippett artists to ensure it's 100%.

Paul

thx217
09-04-2014, 12:03 PM
Our Robocop will be coming next year and it will be the most accurate version ever offered. How do we know this? Phil Tippett owns an original suit and we are scanning it and working with Tippett artists to ensure it's 100%.

Paul

:buttrock::buttrock::buttrock::buttrock:

Now let's worry about the head/face sculpt. :D

CAIN MKII
09-04-2014, 01:32 PM
After all these years, all the tries, the definitive Robocop statue is coming. Thank you Chronicle and I hope you won't meet troubles with the Weller likeness.

Vader
09-04-2014, 07:06 PM
Hey Guys,

Great stuff, love the way you keep it rolling over here. I don't think you need me at all....

First up Shane at Secret Compass is one of a handful of companies that are allowed to carry Cain and Ed in the USA.

ED-209 is as close as you will ever get to the actual screen used puppet, it's molded part for part. We even made changes based on comments from the SF regarding a few changes that were made for Robocop 3. We've made all the changes to get it 100% accurate to several scenes in Robocop.

Our Robocop will be coming next year and it will be the most accurate version ever offered. How do we know this? Phil Tippett owns an original suit and we are scanning it and working with Tippett artists to ensure it's 100%.

Paul
any chance you guys will make a 1:1 robocop replica?

Nidgit
09-04-2014, 07:23 PM
any chance you guys will make a 1:1 robocop replica?

Paul alluded to that in one of the other threads:

THX217:

Looks like a life/full size Robo was delivered from Fred Barton. Other then the pose, the piece looks good. Like the base too. Just not a fan the idea of hybrid Robo look. You either go for full R1 or R2, not freaking mix them.

Hey Paul, if done right, I'll get something like this from you guys.

Chronicle:

We want to do a 1-1.....stay tuned.

Vader
09-04-2014, 08:59 PM
I hope they do an Robocop 2 and price it at a reasonable rate. I'd be in for sure.

Chronicle CS
12-18-2014, 11:45 AM
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thx217
12-18-2014, 01:17 PM
Ha! Awesome~

Gruson
02-22-2015, 07:33 PM
So it looks like it is limited to 500 pieces now. Very tempted to order after seeing how nice the Cain came out.

Chronicle CS
02-22-2015, 07:59 PM
ED-209 will be changed on the site this week, it's been lowered to 500 units.

Paul

Patriot666
03-30-2015, 10:45 AM
The website still says limited to 1000 pieces, has the ES been lowered to 500? And is this shipping yet?

Chronicle CS
03-30-2015, 11:40 AM
ED-209 will be here in a few weeks and we will begin shipping.

ED-209 has been lowered to 300 units world wide, we only have very few left.

Paul

The SHOGUN
03-30-2015, 11:54 AM
ED-209 has been lowered to 300 units world wide, we only have very few left.

Paul

thanks for the update. i am grateful you guys made these replicas and i appreciate the montly payment plans, but releasing these two pieces like this at the same time has been difficult for me

:vortex:

Spec Fiction
03-30-2015, 11:55 AM
Will you have a special "bonus" for those who purchased ED209 direct from you?

Viper245
03-30-2015, 11:59 AM
thanks for the update. i am grateful you guys made these replicas and i appreciate the montly payment plans, but releasing these two pieces like this at the same time has been difficult for me

:vortex:

That's my guess as to why ED didn't do better in sales. Several companies have released ED over the years in various scales even though Chronicle's version is the most accurate and authentic version out there whereas Cain has never been done before so many people chose to go with Cain when forced to make a choice.

Patriot666
03-30-2015, 12:37 PM
ED-209 will be here in a few weeks and we will begin shipping.

ED-209 has been lowered to 300 units world wide, we only have very few left.

Paul

Thanks Paul. Your immediate communication is greatly appreciated. It made the decision that much easier for me. You now have even fewer left...Ordered. :thumbs2:

rhy
03-30-2015, 12:51 PM
ED-209 is going to be epic

thx217
03-30-2015, 01:26 PM
ED-209 will be here in a few weeks and we will begin shipping.

ED-209 has been lowered to 300 units world wide, we only have very few left.

Paul

Bring it! :buttrock:

The SHOGUN
03-30-2015, 01:42 PM
Bring it! :buttrock:

nothing against you personally, at all; for years i've always thought the statments of "Bring it on" and "Bring it" in the context of anticipating collectibles is funny.

rhy
03-30-2015, 02:38 PM
Bring it! :buttrock:
x2

Chronicle,
http://i.imgur.com/p7XHR.jpg

The SHOGUN
03-30-2015, 03:23 PM
x2

Chronicle,
http://i.imgur.com/p7XHR.jpg

WrestleMania was incredible last night.

the best ever.

rhy
03-30-2015, 03:48 PM
the best ever.
Yeah? Missed it, plan on watching it tonight, if the wife permits.

I returned my HT ED-209 for this. Hopefully, this lives up to the hype.

The SHOGUN
03-30-2015, 05:33 PM
Yeah? Missed it, plan on watching it tonight, if the wife permits.

I returned my HT ED-209 for this. Hopefully, this lives up to the hype.

no joke. Top to bottom, best Wrestlemania ever.

Atheris
03-30-2015, 05:40 PM
Wait the ES went from 1000 to 300?

Holly exclusive Batman.....I like the sounds of that.

Chris

Viper245
03-30-2015, 06:00 PM
Wait the ES went from 1000 to 300?

Holly exclusive Batman.....I like the sounds of that.

Chris

Yeah, Chris. If you are in the market for an ED-209, this is the one to get in terms of accuracy and quality. The ultra low ES is just icing on the cake.

Chronicle CS
03-30-2015, 06:52 PM
Believe me I wish it were 1000, LOL, but we'll be happy with the 300 units.

Atheris
03-31-2015, 12:52 AM
Believe me I wish it were 1000, LOL, but we'll be happy with the 300 units.

Hey it's ok to dream big ok.

Chris

Patriot666
03-31-2015, 11:07 AM
So glad I passed on the Hot Toys toy. 300 is a crazy low ES for this iconic piece. The HT's are a dime a dozen, this will be a very special piece to own.

thx217
03-31-2015, 01:39 PM
300... It's going to be rare.

Thinking about placing another order...

CAIN MKII
03-31-2015, 02:29 PM
I can already hear the desperate cries of those who missed the ball when ED209 will come out.

thx217
03-31-2015, 03:27 PM
I can already hear the desperate cries of those who missed the ball when ED209 will come out.

:laugh: Yea, it will happen.

The SHOGUN
03-31-2015, 05:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMKAIo-1-N4

http://www.oschti.ch/RoboCop/97/Film-tn/A-000-Ray-Wise-Leon-C-Nash-RoboCop.jpg

Enforcer
03-31-2015, 07:55 PM
You guys and your talking about missing out on this fantastic opportunity lol

http://i.imgur.com/xDctkjA.jpg

It's a damn good thing I'm not married or else I would be getting a ear full by time July rolls around with more terminator stuff stacking on top of the ED and Skull monthly payments D:

Happy late Christmas for me this coming Jan 2016 :buttrock:

Darkheir
04-01-2015, 06:55 AM
ES lowered to 300 units? That just made my decision so much easier! Paul, you have another sale sir :)

The SHOGUN
04-01-2015, 09:13 AM
I locked in my orders for Cain and ED-209 yesterday.

and of the two, ED-209 looks better BTW.

Chronicle CS
04-01-2015, 11:56 AM
Thank you guys!

Viper245
04-01-2015, 12:01 PM
If I had more available space in my collection that wasn't already spoken for, I would definitely pick up ED to go along with Cain. It's a fantastic piece.

The SHOGUN
04-01-2015, 12:24 PM
Thank you guys!

you're the man for making this possible. Thanks again for always being available for us collectors.

:thumbs2:

The SHOGUN
04-01-2015, 12:27 PM
and of the two, ED-209 looks better BTW.

i'm biased, i've always liked ED-209 better.

Chronicle CS
04-01-2015, 12:33 PM
You ask, I'll do my best to answer...

Chronicle CS
04-07-2015, 05:30 PM
So everyone that orders direct will get some exclusives just like we did with Cain. One of those Exclusives would be this custom shirt designed by Bob Lindenmayer

What do you guys think?

The other thing will be a part that blew up....

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t31.0-8/1979326_1570601893199650_4021793008929996250_o.png

Only way to get this exclusive gear is to buy ED-209.

Python
04-07-2015, 05:31 PM
That's a very cool design!

LEC
04-07-2015, 06:27 PM
:drooling:

CAIN MKII
04-07-2015, 06:46 PM
Gotcha!

LEC
04-07-2015, 07:08 PM
I know you're talking about his arm but until it arrives I will pretend we're talking about the part in the picture.... It blew up too didn't it!? :dork:

Patriot666
04-07-2015, 07:17 PM
I like the shirt! Glad I ordered direct.

Chronicle CS
04-07-2015, 07:53 PM
LEC, or it could be both.....

Gruson
04-07-2015, 09:11 PM
Nice shirt! About how many are left now?

Chronicle CS
04-07-2015, 09:17 PM
I don't have an exact number but it's a few dozen....

premium_substit
04-08-2015, 05:25 AM
I know you're talking about his arm but until it arrives I will pretend we're talking about the part in the picture.... It blew up too didn't it!? :dork:

LEC, or it could be both.....

Wow. If it came with those parts I would seriously have to reconsider buying locally.

Gruson
04-08-2015, 09:15 AM
LEC, or it could be both.....

Very curious to what it comes with now!

LEC
04-08-2015, 12:56 PM
LEC, or it could be both.....

I'm not kidding... when I read that I almost fainted, almost. You know how just before you faint you get tunnel vision and you feel realy heavy...?

Well... that just happened to me so Paul... don't joke about such things... :crazy:

El Diablo
04-08-2015, 01:03 PM
love the shirt design!
it would be awesome if it did come with the blew up arm AND legs, that'd be like 1.5 ed-209s for the price of one, or buy one get half free :buttrock:

KAPITAL
04-11-2015, 01:27 AM
Edit..

Armored_Berserk
04-12-2015, 06:10 AM
I don't see any estimated shipping date for ED, is there any?

El Diablo
04-12-2015, 08:24 AM
end of this month according to the newsletter :thumbs2:

Chronicle CS
04-12-2015, 12:01 PM
We'll be announcing the extras you will get for ordering direct this week....

Paul

Darth Milo
04-13-2015, 12:05 PM
I couldn't resist the temptation :drooling: I've just placed my order for ED-209 at Secret Compass :buttrock:

Chronicle CS
04-13-2015, 01:05 PM
Congrats!

Darth Milo
04-13-2015, 04:29 PM
Congrats!

Thanks Paul.. I'm happy that I secured my order :)

love the shirt design!
it would be awesome if it did come with the blew up arm AND legs, that'd be like 1.5 ed-209s for the price of one, or buy one get half free :buttrock:

I think (hope) that it comes with the extra damaged arm and the piece that I have circled in red in the picture.. ED's upper body is probably removable and you can put that piece on top of the legs.. but that's just speculation :)

El Diablo
04-13-2015, 04:35 PM
Thanks Paul.. I'm happy that I secured my order :)



I think (hope) that it comes with the extra damaged arm and the piece that I have circled in red in the picture.. ED's upper body is probably removable and you can put that piece on top of the legs.. but that's just speculation :)

I like your thinking :thumbs2:

got to say this is one of my most anticipated pieces ever, ed is a character I have one of the strongest memories of as a kid :buttrock: to think I'll own a statue cast from the actual ed seen on screen is just beyond words :)

LEC
04-14-2015, 04:53 AM
How about some box art for ED?
We saw the Cain box long before he came out.

The SHOGUN
04-14-2015, 10:59 AM
I couldn't resist the temptation :drooling: I've just placed my order for ED-209 at Secret Compass :buttrock:

Congrats Milo. You made a very wise choice. The availability of an accurate Cain completley overshadowed the ED-209 release. Wait until you see this guy in person. The new and improved Hot Toys ED-209 is going to look like a stunt double when the in hand comparison pics are posted.

http://www.theterminatorfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/PK3.jpg

Chronicle CS
04-14-2015, 11:27 AM
LEC, box art was posted on our Facebook a while back...


https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11133651_10205275611702526_323733769166670637_n.jpg?oh=d377c84472ab3568834ef6282d949174&oe=55E3806D

LEC
04-14-2015, 12:38 PM
OH!
So much going on here on SF that I didn't check the FB page in a while.
Anyway... Looks amazing!! I especially like the blured left leg, like the picture was taken while he was moving...
Nice! Very nice. Can't wait.

thx217
04-14-2015, 10:30 PM
Love it! Please nail the pose on the front box art, please nail the pose on the front box art... :praying::praying::praying:

Vader
04-14-2015, 11:56 PM
Congrats Milo. You made a very wise choice. The availability of an accurate Cain completley overshadowed the ED-209 release. Wait until you see this guy in person. The new and improved Hot Toys ED-209 is going to look like a stunt double when the in hand comparison pics are posted.

http://www.theterminatorfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/PK3.jpg

i hope you're right. I want this piece to look way better than the hot toys one.

thx217
04-15-2015, 02:12 AM
i hope you're right. I want this piece to look way better than the hot toys one.

It's not about right or wrong. It's a fact.

CAIN MKII
04-15-2015, 02:26 AM
Amen brother

Darth Milo
04-16-2015, 12:55 PM
Congrats Milo. You made a very wise choice.

Thanks :thumbs2: I can't wait to have it in my collection !


http://www.quickmeme.com/img/b4/b49eeba0b7ea5a0f63eb4f9cfaf43439877766abc16b4fe9edc2ff2e08abc1e9.jpg




We'll be announcing the extras you will get for ordering direct this week....

Paul

Don't keep us waiting Paul.. please tell us :thumbs2:

The SHOGUN
04-16-2015, 01:34 PM
It's not about right or wrong. It's a fact.

Chronicle's competitive advantage

Armored_Berserk
04-16-2015, 02:31 PM
I paid the deposit but i didn't receive any order confirmation, is this normal?

Chronicle CS
04-16-2015, 05:58 PM
Please send Amy an email at: agarrett@chroniclecollectibles.com

She'll take care of you quickly.

thx217
04-16-2015, 11:20 PM
Chronicle's competitive advantage

MAJOR advantage. PLUS the passion and efforts that are /were involved to get stuff done right.

Vader
04-17-2015, 12:01 AM
i hope this piece blows the competition away.

thx217
04-17-2015, 12:12 AM
i hope this piece blows the competition away.

This piece is in a league of its own. There's no competition. The reason some people who hasn't order it yet is because they do not know about it or action figure/toy is enough for them. Affordability is not an issue since Chronicle do offer payment plans. I'be getting at least one more for my personal collection because this thing will be, what every collectors wanted their stuff to be, RARE.

Vader
04-17-2015, 09:11 PM
I have it on order as well. No doubt it will be more accurate. Do you think there will be a major difference in the appearance as compared to the hot toys one?

David22Lee
04-17-2015, 11:05 PM
I have it on order as well. No doubt it will be more accurate. Do you think there will be a major difference in the appearance as compared to the hot toys one?

I don't think there would be any comparisons. This is pretty much the real ED-209. The HT version, while much improved from their 1st release, is still full of inaccuracies.

Chronicle CS
04-18-2015, 12:23 AM
""I don't think there would be any comparisons. This is pretty much the real ED-209.""

Indeed!

dao2
04-18-2015, 02:01 AM
And they still used rubber :|

kkchan
04-18-2015, 02:37 AM
This piece is in a league of its own. There's no competition. The reason some people who hasn't order it yet is because they do not know about it or action figure/toy is enough for them. Affordability is not an issue since Chronicle do offer payment plans. I'be getting at least one more for my personal collection because this thing will be, what every collectors wanted their stuff to be, RARE.

I think the main reason of ppl like ED209 but hold their order, is bcoz of "worthy".
EVen thought CS ver is much detailed and accurate, but when ppl think about 1/6 with $1K price... ppls think it is too small and over price. But if it is in 1/4, I think sale will come in dramatically.

Animachina
04-18-2015, 02:41 AM
I couldn't take it anymore!!! I was only gong to get Cain as he was my holy grail piece. I have the latest HT ED, and although inaccurate in several areas, it's pose-ability and extra detail and extra moving parts make it a great toy. A great TOY.

But dammit - I will regret missing the chance of having a exact film replica of museum quality sign by Phil.

It's done. Piece #3 from CC is locked in. (Getting the Endo-bust as well)

Now I can get 2 T-shirts!! :thumbs2:

Animachina
04-18-2015, 02:46 AM
I think the main reason of ppl like ED209 but hold their order, is bcoz of "worthy".
EVen thought CS ver is much detailed and accurate, but when ppl think about 1/6 with $1K price... ppls think it is too small and over price. But if it is in 1/4, I think sale will come in dramatically.

Remember, this is smaller than 1/6 and not to scale with the 1/6 Cain (unless I'm mistaken). The original Tippett puppet was made using a smaller scale (1/8?).

Maybe it's been mentioned somewhere and I missed it...

Chronicle CS
04-18-2015, 03:14 AM
Nope, Cain and ED-209 live in the same universe being 1/6th scale. Our ED-209 is a lot bigger than most think after seeing it in person.

The Hot Toys ED-209 is so out of whack for 1/6th, it's proportions are not accurate and make it look larger in areas.

Paul

Animachina
04-18-2015, 03:31 AM
Nope, Cain and ED-209 live in the same universe being 1/6th scale. Our ED-209 is a lot bigger than most think after seeing it in person.

The Hot Toys ED-209 is so out of whack for 1/6th, it's proportions are not accurate and make it look larger in areas.

Paul

Never been so happy to be wrong!! :thumbs2:

Vader
04-18-2015, 07:18 AM
I'm glad the edition size is low. what was the final number on cain?

dao2
04-18-2015, 11:56 AM
I'm glad the edition size is low. what was the final number on cain?

500 I think? According to other thread title at least.

Chronicle CS
04-18-2015, 12:47 PM
Ed-209 : 300
Cain : 500

Vader
04-18-2015, 03:01 PM
I think the hot toys version must have really affected sales as Ed-209 was always a much more popular and cooler looking character than Cain.

Enforcer
04-18-2015, 03:37 PM
I think the hot toys version must have really affected sales as Ed-209 was always a much more popular and cooler looking character than Cain.

It definitely affects sales, but also the fact that Cain exists. If there were no Cain, ED would have more sales. But also I think CC still needs to be recognized as an existing company. If they were recognized, they would have met the previous 1000 ES. I am learning quick that in this hobby your existence needs to be made aware to customers. I don't know, yet I KNOW for a fact there are companies out there like CC that is probably making product I want to buy, but I don't know they even exist to find them and those products.

I forgot exactly how I found CC, but I do know it was by pure chance. I was researching ED 209 hot toys and had found out about bad quality control on a forum. I think I came across the name CC on that same forum as an alternative ED 209 product.

In time I have no doubt CC will be as recognized as Sideshow. It's just a shame so many will miss out on ED and Cain. It's a shame I will miss out on Cain :x but..I have a vague idea of what's coming still and I can't afford all products CC delivers. I wish I could but I have to be picky. Especially in the event these still secret products that will be announced sooner than later hits me in the "oh F no I ain't missing out on THAT" spot.

kkchan
04-18-2015, 08:06 PM
I think the hot toys version must have really affected sales as Ed-209 was always a much more popular and cooler looking character than Cain.

The PO price offered by local shops are at least $300 USD higher than CS website. It also affected the sale

Gruson
04-18-2015, 09:05 PM
Any update or pics on the order direct version?

Chronicle CS
04-18-2015, 09:49 PM
Enforcer,

All good points and I agree with a lot of it. If I had to do it over again I may have waited a year between Cain and ED's release. Even thought there is a lot of ED-209 in the marketplace, I thought we'd sell a lot more than we have.

We based our whole model on 300 units, half retail and half wholesale and we knew it would take time to build that customer base.

Last year we did Wonderfest, Comic Con, Jerseyfest and Monsterpalooza to raise awareness.

We have social media and a website. We only advertise here on the statue forum as we feel this is where our hardcore collectors are and we get great feedback.

We do listen to the fans and make changes based on your suggestions.

If you have any suggestions for getting the word out it would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to advertise on ten forums, that's equal to a few products being produced in China.

I'll keep working hard on cool products, if you guys will continue to support us and spread the word to other boards and social media sites.

We are doing a lot of promotional work with the studios and we are branching out into a few new collectible areas.

Thanks guys, any suggestions are welcome....

Paul

Chronicle CS
04-18-2015, 09:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMKAIo-1-N4

Patriot666
04-18-2015, 10:12 PM
Your company's fate is up to low wage workers in China. Scary right?

Animachina
04-18-2015, 10:40 PM
Your company's fate is up to low wage workers in China. Scary right?

Dude... WTF?

Chronicle CS
04-18-2015, 10:58 PM
Patriot,

Every company in the USA does some type of business in China, either indirectly or directly.

All replica companies use factories in China, we just happen to use Toynami's factories which are Disney approved. That means they live up to the highest standards their laws allow.

I've seen an increase in prices from China since 2008, almost tripling in some cases.

We are trying to make things here in the states, but I doubt we could ever make anything like Cain for a reasonable price. Our Craftsman series will feature several products handmade in the states. Will the costs be higher, sure but I don't have to commit to 300 pieces.

I don't know if you are trying to make a point or just pointing out the obvious. Every collectibles company uses China for manufacturing, unfortunately it's one of those necessary evils.

Let's see how the 1-1 Endoskeletons sell, we're making those here in the studio.

Patriot666
04-19-2015, 09:04 AM
I was basically stating the obvious Paul, in that it must be a stressful business relying on laborers on the other side of the world to reproduce your works of art. Thanks for all of this information, it's the one and only time I have gotten any insight directly from a collectibles company. It is very exciting to hear that the life size endo will be made in house as well and I can't wait to see it. I'm a big fan of Chronicle and the way you guys are doing business.

jinkazama
04-19-2015, 10:24 AM
x2

Chronicle,
http://i.imgur.com/p7XHR.jpg
IF YA SMMMEEEEEELLLLLLLL, WHAT CHRONICLE-IS-COOK'IN:thumbs2:

Chronicle CS
04-19-2015, 11:09 AM
Patriot,

Thanks for the clarification and the support...

I don't actually stress about the manufacturing, Toynami is a wonderful partner that does the best work in the industry hands down.

I get stressed because we don't do everything in house. So far we've aligned ourselves with great artists.

Paul

Python
04-19-2015, 12:04 PM
If prices keep rising at the rate they have been in China, do you see a time where in house production across all lines might actually be viable?

kkchan
04-20-2015, 12:01 AM
finally, clicked buy button!!

Chronicle CS
04-20-2015, 12:15 AM
Thank you KKCHAN!

Darth Milo
04-20-2015, 09:55 AM
Paul, when do you expect to have ED-209 in stock, and can you shed some light on the extra's ?
Thank you.

The Mule
04-20-2015, 04:30 PM
Just saw the video with Phil and ED on the youtube channel. I knew this was quite massive, but damn, he really is, first time I've seen pictures near to someone for size reference.

kkchan
04-21-2015, 06:46 AM
I read review that mention robocain feel like plastic feel and light
Does it the same to ED209? what is the weight?

Gruson
04-21-2015, 12:37 PM
When Phil touches it in the video it kind of bends so it's probably similar to Cain.

Animachina
04-21-2015, 01:41 PM
I read review that mention robocain feel like plastic feel and light
Does it the same to ED209? what is the weight?

I have Cain and he is not light or "bends" in any way except for the pieces that should, like hoses, etc. Since he is made up of individual pieces cast from the original parts, there will be a subtle amount of give at joints and connections that aren't actually glued or molded together. I imagine ED-209 is the same way and doubt very much that any individual part can bend that shouldn't.

They won't be as "solid" or heavy as a single piece polystone sculpted statue because the original puppets were made from many different parts...

In other words, don't worry about it - they are just exactly as they should be! :thumbs2:

Chronicle CS
04-21-2015, 02:35 PM
I agree, they aren't cheaply made by any means. We injection molded the upper bodies on both to save weight, so yes they are a little lighter, but very strong.

Paul

thx217
04-21-2015, 03:41 PM
I read review that mention robocain feel like plastic feel and light
Does it the same to ED209? what is the weight?

lol~ These are "replicas" from the original pieces. What's important is look and that's the most important thing. Carbon fiber is light but does that mean it's cheap or weak?

Personally, the weight of a prop replica is and will never be a concern for me. Unless when they should be made out of bronze or stuff like that.

Enforcer
04-21-2015, 06:34 PM
Generally weight is a good method to judge the quality of product, but it doesn't rule supreme. Some of the best detailed products you can buy is plastic model kits...when people feel like offering such product for sale.

If CC product can provide the very best recreations of what we want to buy, that's great. If they want to make it as affordable as possible, even better. I imagine there are better materials for producing this stuff, but it comes at a much higher price. That's my assessment, anyway.

kkchan
04-21-2015, 07:46 PM
thank you for reply.
Based on comments in CC fb, review mentioned that, parts are detail, but painting is not really impressed. The painting make cause the "plastic" feel.
The weight is my curiosity

Beside, been told, a collector got this cain with serial # 2xxx, another one got it with # 6x. Since it is 500 pieces world wide, how come it come with # 2xxx? Just wanted to understand the serial # system.

Hope, ED209 is "perfect", as I really keen to get good one.

Thank you

thx217
04-21-2015, 07:53 PM
The paint job will never be as good as the promo/prototype/show piece. It's just the way it is. That's why a lot of us do retouch/repaint after we have the thing in hand. Some hire a painter to do theirs and really transforms the piece.

209 will most like needs some retouches here and there but it is perfect they way it is. At least based on what I see on my Cain.

Chronicle CS
04-21-2015, 09:14 PM
Our pieces don't have serial numbers, they have carton numbers. Meaning there were 300 cartons in the first order, so you may have gotten any one of the 300 in no particular order.

Paul

Enforcer
04-21-2015, 09:27 PM
The paint job will never be as good as the promo/prototype/show piece. It's just the way it is. That's why a lot of us do retouch/repaint after we have the thing in hand. Some hire a painter to do theirs and really transforms the piece.

209 will most like needs some retouches here and there but it is perfect they way it is. At least based on what I see on my Cain.
Interesting timing for this subject. I just invested around 450 dollars into airbrush equipment to get started on airbrushing again. It's a hobby that's been long gone for me but with my increasingly difficult time of finding older items in this hobby to purchase, I am looking to the standard method of obtaining what I want - model kits. It started when I found out about pegasus Hunter Killer T2 models...I bought both versions. They are on the way...

I will also start buying alot of the old Star Trek models next. BoP, Enterprise D, Warbird, Defiant...AND ONE DOESN'T EXIST FOR MY FRICKING JEM'HADAR ATTACK SHIP!!!111!11!!! despite the Dominion being a major part of DS9 but ain't nobody got da time to provide model kits of their ships... I should say, there aren't any decently sized models. I did find some palm sized junk the other day for like 85 dollars.....

Anyway... it's sure to keep me busy. Hopefully my skills will return in the event I need to repaint any CC products. I don't know how their system works, but if the final product is completely done and boxed in China then it's possible I may not be happy. I understand all too well the problem of promo finished work vs what you actually get. That problem exists in the 'lesser collectibles' market. I would hope it's better in the higher end market but I'll find out soon. I would sooner repaint and do the job right before I go through the trouble of returns. I don't even know if CC will do the returns thing.

But if there's one thing I know, it's that if you want perfection, you usually have to do the work yourself. I can live with redoing paint jobs if I need to. Though I would have to throw down some money for really good paint. I'm not so sure standard $2.50 airbrush paints are the best choice for $1200+ items.

The SHOGUN
04-23-2015, 11:43 AM
my ED-209 is paid-off :) I'm really looking forward to hopefully receiving him sometime in June. I'm also very happy that i will be getting ED-209 first and Cain second.

David22Lee
04-23-2015, 12:59 PM
my ED-209 is paid-off :) I'm really looking forward to hopefully receiving him sometime in June. I'm also very happy that i will be getting ED-209 first and Cain second.

Is it being shipped in June?? I thought it was May.

The SHOGUN
04-23-2015, 01:48 PM
Is it being shipped in June?? I thought it was May.

When i spoke with Amy this week she did say they are shooting for a May shipment, but i'd rather plan ahead for delays that way i'm not dissapointed.

thx217
04-23-2015, 02:22 PM
After all the years, May or June seem like just tomorrow for me. Can't wait!

The SHOGUN
04-29-2015, 07:02 PM
From the Chronicle Newsletter:

RoboCop™ ED-209 is scheduled to arrive in the States by mid-May. We should be able to start shipping by the end of May. I will start sending out personalized emails to confirm shipping information for our ED-209 customers in a few weeks. If you have confirmed your address for Cain or the Terror Dog, I will be using that shipping address, unless otherwise told. ED-209's packaging is large: 26"x18"x16" (64.5cm x 46cm x 38.8 cm) weighing 15-16 pounds (6.8-7.3 kg). For our international customers, there will be additional shipping cost required to ship this piece. I am happy to provide shipping quotes.


:penguin::penguin::penguin:

Darth Milo
04-30-2015, 01:49 AM
Where can I subscribe to the newsletter and what about the extra's ?

Shoo
04-30-2015, 02:29 AM
Where can I subscribe to the newsletter

As Paul told me yesterday:

Shoo, please send an email to Amy: agarrett@chroniclecollectibles.com

Chronicle CS
04-30-2015, 09:23 AM
Friend of mine brought his Hot Toys ED-209 by the studio and I was amazed at the size. The details are good but at the end of the day it's a toy.

If you look at the pic from Robocop 2, Robo is about the same height as ED-209. ED-209 was not some giant of a monster.

His feet probably shouldn't touch when standing in the classic pose as well....

You can't beat the real thing!

Paul


https://scontent-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11114245_10205389859278644_1106849846231928019_n.jpg?oh=11cb50980a5dd5cfdc9db3d28345ad70&oe=559AC6F9

https://scontent-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11174918_10205389860638678_8352794998073818170_n.jpg?oh=2a450cd2f3a277b2c665745e5b1c0712&oe=55DD40C9

Patriot666
04-30-2015, 09:26 AM
You can definitely tell the proportions of the prop are what we saw on screen.

Chronicle CS
04-30-2015, 09:29 AM
I would hope so seeing as how it's molded part for part....

Paul

El Diablo
04-30-2015, 10:22 AM
I had the original hot toys ed and it was a nice piece (sold it a while ago). But even if it was bang on the same dimensions/proportions as the chronicles' it still wouldn't have been molded from the original piece so will always be inferior imo.

Viper245
04-30-2015, 10:22 AM
No comparison, Paul. Chronicle beats out Hot Toys on accuracy and detail by a mile.

Toys vs. props - it's a choice and I'll always choose props.

The SHOGUN
04-30-2015, 10:34 AM
Friend of mine brought his Hot Toys ED-209 by the studio and I was amazed at the size. The details are good but at the end of the day it's a toy.

If you look at the pic from Robocop 2, Robo is about the same height as ED-209. ED-209 was not some giant of a monster.

His feet probably shouldn't touch when standing in the classic pose as well....

You can't beat the real thing!

Paul


https://scontent-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11114245_10205389859278644_1106849846231928019_n.jpg?oh=11cb50980a5dd5cfdc9db3d28345ad70&oe=559AC6F9

https://scontent-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11174918_10205389860638678_8352794998073818170_n.jpg?oh=2a450cd2f3a277b2c665745e5b1c0712&oe=55DD40C9

cool comparison. The Hot Toys ED-209's legs are fully extended

Darth Milo
04-30-2015, 10:41 AM
Apples and oranges guys.. the Hot Toys costs €350 in my country.. the Chronicles ED-209 costs €1550.

CallMe_Snake
04-30-2015, 11:04 AM
Yeah, the Hot Toys ED-209 is not bad. I had one but decided to sell it before any rubber deterioration started. :/

I'd rather have Chronicle's work of art in my collection.
A part for part replica of the stop-motion puppet vs an inaccurate toy made with parts that deteriorate... choice is clear for me.

I want to try and get in on the ED-209 payment plan before he sells out.

Just needed to secure Cain first. ;)

El Diablo
04-30-2015, 11:38 AM
Apples and oranges guys.. the Hot Toys costs €350 in my country.. the Chronicles ED-209 costs €1550.

more like fords and ferraris, I'd rather drive a Ferrari :)

Darth Milo
04-30-2015, 11:44 AM
more like fords and ferraris, I'd rather drive a Ferrari :)


http://i59.tinypic.com/vq47dk.jpg

El Diablo
04-30-2015, 11:57 AM
:laugh: you see! that's the car equivilent of a hot toys ed right there! :thumbs2:

The SHOGUN
04-30-2015, 12:33 PM
The Hot Toys figure looks a little goofy next to the real deal.

i'm sure Paul's friend left with his ED-209, but i would like to see a comparison or the HT lowered down. It's an easy extra inch of height the Hot Toys has due to the legs being fully extended.

I'm so excited to own the definitive ED-209, and there will be no ifs, ands or buts regarding it's accuracy

Patriot666
04-30-2015, 01:29 PM
Will the Chronicle ED-209 legs be adjustable? I don't think so, but just to verify...

Enforcer
04-30-2015, 01:43 PM
Will the Chronicle ED-209 legs be adjustable? I don't think so, but just to verify...Since I am 100% certain they are not since this is a "statue", a better question would be: Hypothetically speaking, if we wanted to operate on ED 209, could we? Just how far does the detail go? Far enough to allow those legs to adjust up and down if we tried to make it so because we wanted to change his pose to just standing?

I know that these products aren't meant as puppets that can be adjusted. However, that does not exclude the possibility that with tinkering, they can be adjusted. I wouldn't mind knowing the answer to this, if for nothing else than just to hear the answer "no" so I know to never ever try tinkering with my 1200 dollar statue.

The Mule
04-30-2015, 01:57 PM
People have modified Cain's stance so that he's standing straighter, a user here even modified his left arm in a different position and adjusted the head so it's lifted... don't know if something as radical as adjusting ED's legs is possible since it could cause balance issues, tho.

Chronicle CS
04-30-2015, 04:38 PM
Our ED is static, it won't move, the Hot Toys leg position was in basically the same position as ours, the towers are way to long.

My friend left with an order for our ED-209 and he assured me that with the 300 ES it will sell out as soon as he lands and people start getting ours in their hands.

Our ED has traveled to a few shows and his left hip isn't in the right position nor is his body turned. The final will be pretty aggressive.

The most glaring thing is the mouth area, very flat on the toy...

I am in no way bashing the toy, it's an amazing piece of engineering, I just wonder why no one contacted Phil before us...

Chronicle CS
04-30-2015, 04:44 PM
Also if you share the pics, please include the photo from Robocop 2, without it people think ours is out of scale, when it's clearly the opposite.......SF Board

candyrocket786
04-30-2015, 05:04 PM
If I didn't already have Anubis and Cain on the plan, I would probably snatch one of these up.

Then there's Horus, and 1/4 T800.

Decisions... Decisions...

Chronicle CS
04-30-2015, 05:09 PM
Ha, I hear you man, don't want to burn you guys out, but I gotta keep cranking products....

Quality over Quantity.....

thx217
04-30-2015, 05:37 PM
Our ED has traveled to a few shows and his left hip isn't in the right position nor is his body turned. The final will be pretty aggressive.


:buttrock::praying::buttrock:

Chronicle CS
04-30-2015, 05:50 PM
Factory Shot!

http://chroniclecollectibles.com/robocop-ed-209/

https://scontent-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11182058_1579436978982808_2489443006255130176_n.jpg?oh=b16f7258b31a070d0eccd923560b2f24&oe=5598E04D

El Diablo
04-30-2015, 05:54 PM
Our ED is static, it won't move, the Hot Toys leg position was in basically the same position as ours, the towers are way to long.

My friend left with an order for our ED-209 and he assured me that with the 300 ES it will sell out as soon as he lands and people start getting ours in their hands.

Our ED has traveled to a few shows and his left hip isn't in the right position nor is his body turned. The final will be pretty aggressive.

The most glaring thing is the mouth area, very flat on the toy...

I am in no way bashing the toy, it's an amazing piece of engineering, I just wonder why no one contacted Phil before us...

glad you mentioned that as it was the one thing about the pose that I thought could improve it :thumbs2:

thx217
04-30-2015, 06:08 PM
We need more, Paul! :D

Animachina
04-30-2015, 06:09 PM
http://robocoparchive.com/info/ed209-6.JPGNot to beat a dead horse, and not that it matters since we are buying an exact replica, but ED was definately taller than 6', even in his shortest pose, when seen in the movie. Images of the full scale prop show him at least 7'.

thx217
04-30-2015, 06:19 PM
I am in no way bashing the toy, it's an amazing piece of engineering, I just wonder why no one contacted Phil before us...

Because they don't want to spend more R&D money on it and authenticity is not HT's primary concern. For most people, close enough(but it's not) is enough.

jaxon
04-30-2015, 06:34 PM
Factory Shot!

http://chroniclecollectibles.com/robocop-ed-209/

https://scontent-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11182058_1579436978982808_2489443006255130176_n.jpg?oh=b16f7258b31a070d0eccd923560b2f24&oe=5598E04D

I've always loved these factory pics, builds up the tension.

Enforcer
04-30-2015, 07:25 PM
http://robocoparchive.com/info/ed209-6.JPGNot to beat a dead horse, and not that it matters since we are buying an exact replica, but ED was definately taller than 6', even in his shortest pose, when seen in the movie. Images of the full scale prop show him at least 7'.Yeah that's the ED-209 I remember. Any suggestions from anyone on a good Robocop option to scale with CC's ED-209? Specifically with some articulation capabilities and his gun? I'm thinking a 12"er is going to be too big. I wonder if the cheapo Mcfarlane version will do. For as cheap as Mcfarlane stuff was/is, it's pretty darn good stuff...at least as it was many years ago. Robo was always on my to buy list after coming back to collecting, but now that I've gotten a taste of this part of collecting....

Chronicle CS
04-30-2015, 07:58 PM
Ive seen Ed at Tippett Studios and while I agree he's taller than 6', he's not ten feet tall like the HT version.

I've stood close to the real thing and I'm 6'4" and I could see the top of the dome.

Paul

Animachina
04-30-2015, 09:41 PM
Ive seen Ed at Tippett Studios and while I agree he's taller than 6', he's not ten feet tall like the HT version.

I've stood close to the real thing and I'm 6'4" and I could see the top of the dome.

Paul

No question that HT's is lacking in accuracy and proportion. They actually made the mouth/jaw area less accurate in their newest version I think.

David22Lee
04-30-2015, 10:20 PM
No question that HT's is lacking in accuracy and proportion. They actually made the mouth/jaw area less accurate in their newest version I think.

That's right. The grill of ED-209 on the new HT version is so shallow. It was compromised for the sound function. I had the HT ED....the shallow grill really bothered me.

Patriot666
04-30-2015, 10:58 PM
They look perfect in that factory shot. The paint looks crisp and clean. :drooling::drooling::drooling:

Enforcer
05-01-2015, 12:21 AM
Ive seen Ed at Tippett Studios and while I agree he's taller than 6', he's not ten feet tall like the HT version.

I've stood close to the real thing and I'm 6'4" and I could see the top of the dome.

Paul Soooo a 12" Robocop just might do the trick then for proper scale? I don't suppose you've put anymore thought into doing a limited run of 'cops for us ED/Cain owners? :praying:

Atheris
05-01-2015, 01:36 AM
Factory Shot!

http://chroniclecollectibles.com/robocop-ed-209/

https://scontent-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11182058_1579436978982808_2489443006255130176_n.jpg?oh=b16f7258b31a070d0eccd923560b2f24&oe=5598E04D

Sick...looking forward to this one.

Chris

LEC
05-01-2015, 02:01 AM
I think I see my ED-209 there in the back!! :drooling:

Armored_Berserk
05-01-2015, 04:15 AM
Factory Shot!

http://chroniclecollectibles.com/robocop-ed-209/

https://scontent-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11182058_1579436978982808_2489443006255130176_n.jpg?oh=b16f7258b31a070d0eccd923560b2f24&oe=5598E04D

Mine is the one on the left:buttrock:

Armored_Berserk
05-01-2015, 06:21 AM
Also there is no comparison between the Chronicles and the Hot Toys because the f**king dome on the Hot Toys is cracking because it's f**king cheap rubber!!!!

Dirt Torpedo
05-01-2015, 09:13 AM
Really want this but just cant go for it with all the Terminator items coming. Might pester the wife for this guy as my birthday present.

Animachina
05-01-2015, 10:08 AM
Soooo a 12" Robocop just might do the trick then for proper scale? I don't suppose you've put anymore thought into doing a limited run of 'cops for us ED/Cain owners? :praying:

This was my whole issue. A 12" Robocop would be TOO BIG if the ones shown in the photo from Tippett (showing all the Robocop, Cain, and a couple ED209 puppets) are also 12" or 1/6 scale. http://robocoparchive.com/info/cain24.jpg

You can see that Robo is TALLER than ED209, so ED (the one that the CC replica is based off of) is NOT the same scale. That's all. So, that still makes me wonder what scale he is exactly...

Patriot666
05-01-2015, 10:18 AM
I was going to buy a HT Robocop to display with this guy. Even with the scale issue of the 12" being too tall next to the ED, I'm not sure I want a toy anywhere near this beauty.

El Diablo
05-01-2015, 10:23 AM
looking at that pic I'd say those particular robocops are slightly larger than 1:6 that's assuming ed and cain are 1:6 as they look to be in the same scale. Here is a comparison with the 1:1 ed to (a young!) Phil tippet

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d9/mefoetoes/9221821ec00ff4533dba88ccbf166049_zpsml2fpuqt.jpg

The SHOGUN
05-01-2015, 11:14 AM
Factory Shot!

http://chroniclecollectibles.com/robocop-ed-209/

https://scontent-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11182058_1579436978982808_2489443006255130176_n.jpg?oh=b16f7258b31a070d0eccd923560b2f24&oe=5598E04D

This picture is fantastic.

Python
05-01-2015, 11:37 AM
Really want this but just cant go for it with all the Terminator items coming. Might pester the wife for this guy as my birthday present.

Snap, apart from the last bit, my Mrs would just laugh in my face for about two weeks.

That factory shot looks really good!!

The SHOGUN
05-01-2015, 11:47 AM
Yeah that's the ED-209 I remember. Any suggestions from anyone on a good Robocop option to scale with CC's ED-209? Specifically with some articulation capabilities and his gun? I'm thinking a 12"er is going to be too big. I wonder if the cheapo Mcfarlane version will do. For as cheap as Mcfarlane stuff was/is, it's pretty darn good stuff...at least as it was many years ago. Robo was always on my to buy list after coming back to collecting, but now that I've gotten a taste of this part of collecting....

I have the McFarlane Battle Damaged 12" RoboCop. The battle damage is from his battle with ED-209 in the first film. It's a smidge smaller than the Hot Toys version. also the suit is a little skinny for my liking but in this situation it's good as he appears smaller. but again, we would be displaying a $39.99 12" McFarlane action figure with a so so paint job next to the $1200 Tippett perfect replica.

Soooo a 12" Robocop just might do the trick then for proper scale? I don't suppose you've put anymore thought into doing a limited run of 'cops for us ED/Cain owners? :praying:

The fundamental issue is there are two scales.

The first scale is the Tippett Stop Motion Studio scale. The accurate of the actual puppets used in the film (as seen in Paul's posted pic)

The second scale is the size and scale that the figures/props appear on screen, or are supposed to appear on screen.

This is where the discrepancy lies. The ED-209 and Cain are about the same scale, very close. However the Robocop puppet used in the film is what's throwing everything off. The image of Tippett Crew has a 1/6 (about the size of the HT figure) Robocop puppet (i believe it's a modified Horizon Model Kit) next to the Studio scale ED-209 and Cain puppets. It appears that Robocop is HUGE and Cain and ED-209 are a little small. That is where the discrepancy lies. The modified Horizon kit is not in scale with the ED-209 and Cain puppets. yet, another reason why it would not be a good idea to produce the Robocop Tippett puppets used in the film because it would create an awkward display. If Tippett Studios made a fresh new puppet for the stop motion sequences of the film, that was perfectly in scale we would not be talking about this scale discrepancy, but they didn't and used the Horizion kit, as it was a good sculpt and they shot the scenes with that piece. and they looked pretty good for the most part, aside from certain scenes when they are in the same frame right next to each other. These scenes there should be a bigger size difference between Robo and Cain than what appears on screen, but you have to be a scale stickler to notice.
http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u357/notmoore/ROBOCOP2War2.jpg (http://s519.photobucket.com/user/notmoore/media/ROBOCOP2War2.jpg.html)



This was my whole issue. A 12" Robocop would be TOO BIG if the ones shown in the photo from Tippett (showing all the Robocop, Cain, and a couple ED209 puppets) are also 12" or 1/6 scale. http://robocoparchive.com/info/cain24.jpg

You can see that Robo is TALLER than ED209, so ED (the one that the CC replica is based off of) is NOT the same scale. That's all. So, that still makes me wonder what scale he is exactly...

You are correct. a 12" Robocop would create a scale discrepancy, making the bad guys look a little undersized.

I was going to buy a HT Robocop to display with this guy. Even with the scale issue of the 12" being too tall next to the ED, I'm not sure I want a toy anywhere near this beauty.

i think the best companion pieces for ED-209 and Cain are each other.

or,


if there was a way Chronicle could scale down the Studio Scale Tippett Robocop, which would crease the display we are all looking for. Maybe 1/7 or 1/8 scale Robocop would be perfect.

Enforcer
05-01-2015, 11:54 AM
This was my whole issue. A 12" Robocop would be TOO BIG if the ones shown in the photo from Tippett (showing all the Robocop, Cain, and a couple ED209 puppets) are also 12" or 1/6 scale. http://robocoparchive.com/info/cain24.jpg

You can see that Robo is TALLER than ED209, so ED (the one that the CC replica is based off of) is NOT the same scale. That's all. So, that still makes me wonder what scale he is exactly...

http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/1/11/RC1-ED209-GunB.jpg/600px-RC1-ED209-GunB.jpg

https://chivethebrigade.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/robocop-ed-209-500-18.jpg

As far as Robo goes in the movies, he definitely didn't tower over ED209 like a 6'4 Paul can. Often is the case that our beloved hollywood stars are no where near the giants they appear to be. Arnold for example was just a big guy among oversized midgets in the 5'0-5'7 range... so I doubt Peter in Robo gear was 6'4 or taller. I think he's 6'? Looks like it matches up in the screenshots above, and at 6'4 you could start seeing the top of ED's dome.

ED209 from CC is 14.5" high. I'm thinking the base is 2 inches max sooooo... we need a proper Robo in the 10 inch department? Should about do it.

Enforcer
05-01-2015, 12:01 PM
I have the McFarlane Battle Damaged 12" RoboCop. The battle damage is from his battle with ED-209 in the first film. It's a smidge smaller than the Hot Toys version. also the suit is a little skinny for my liking but in this situation it's good as he appears smaller. but again, we would be displaying a $39.99 12" McFarlane action figure with a so so paint job next to the $1200 Tippett perfect replica.



The fundamental issue is there are two scales.

The first scale is the Tippett Stop Motion Studio scale. The accurate of the actual puppets used in the film (as seen in Paul's posted pic)

The second scale is the size and scale that the figures/props appear on screen, or are supposed to appear on screen.

This is where the discrepancy lies. The ED-209 and Cain are about the same scale, very close. However the Robocop puppet used in the film is what's throwing everything off. The image of Tippett Crew has a 1/6 (about the size of the HT figure) Robocop puppet (i believe it's a modified Horizon Model Kit) next to the Studio scale ED-209 and Cain puppets. It appears that Robocop is HUGE and Cain and ED-209 are a little small. That is where the discrepancy lies. The modified Horizon kit is not in scale with the ED-209 and Cain puppets. yet, another reason why it would not be a good idea to produce the Robocop Tippett puppets used in the film because it would create an awkward display. If Tippett Studios made a fresh new puppet for the stop motion sequences of the film, that was perfectly in scale we would not be talking about this scale discrepancy, but they didn't and used the Horizion kit, as it was a good sculpt and they shot the scenes with that piece. and they looked pretty good for the most part, aside from certain scenes when they are in the same frame right next to each other. These scenes there should be a bigger size difference between Robo and Cain than what appears on screen, but you have to be a scale stickler to notice.
http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u357/notmoore/ROBOCOP2War2.jpg (http://s519.photobucket.com/user/notmoore/media/ROBOCOP2War2.jpg.html)





You are correct. a 12" Robocop would create a scale discrepancy, making the bad guys look a little undersized.



i think the best companion pieces for ED-209 and Cain are each other.

or,


if there was a way Chronicle could scale down the Studio Scale Tippett Robocop, which would crease the display we are all looking for. Maybe 1/7 or 1/8 scale Robocop would be perfect.
Fascinating knowledge to know, there. That does concern me, that a CC replica of Robo would be the studio version which is clearly larger than ED 209 in the picture. But I suppose I would buy it anyway and my other plans would just have to shape up to whatever they shape up in the future.

I'm completely lost on how to properly figure out scales, so is 1/7 or 1/8 about 10 inches tall?

Animachina
05-01-2015, 12:21 PM
...i think the best companion pieces for ED-209 and Cain are each other.

I don't think Cain should tower over ED either. I think Robo and Cain are both in the same scale in the Tippett studio shot. ED was made first for the original Robocop, so they could have made him at whatever scale was convenient for them to manipulate for stop motion purposes. Since Robocop 2 had more interaction between Robo and Cain, it made sense to go with 1/6 scale since a 1/6 Robo kit existed as you mentioned.

:deadh:

Here's Nidgit's Cain and 1/6 HT Robocop. Perfect match, scale wise...

And finally, I had a special request from another member to get some pics of Cain with HT's Robocop. I know someone has already done some similar pics / video, but just for fun :D

I can't wait to see Chronicle's 1:6 Robocop. As much as I like the HT Robo, it really does look like a toy next to Cain.

http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae153/nidgit/nidgit157/imagejpg1_zpse0e921ae.jpg (http://s967.photobucket.com/user/nidgit/media/nidgit157/imagejpg1_zpse0e921ae.jpg.html)


http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae153/nidgit/nidgit157/imagejpg4_zpsab149ecc.jpg (http://s967.photobucket.com/user/nidgit/media/nidgit157/imagejpg4_zpsab149ecc.jpg.html)


http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae153/nidgit/nidgit157/imagejpg1_zpscd941e74.jpg (http://s967.photobucket.com/user/nidgit/media/nidgit157/imagejpg1_zpscd941e74.jpg.html)

The SHOGUN
05-01-2015, 12:40 PM
I don't think Cain should tower over ED either. I think Robo and Cain are both in the same scale in the Tippett studio shot. ED was made first for the original Robocop, so they could have made him at whatever scale was convenient for them to manipulate for stop motion purposes. Since Robocop 2 had more interaction between Robo and Cain, it made sense to go with 1/6 scale since a 1/6 Robo kit existed as you mentioned.

:deadh:

Here's Nidgit's Cain and 1/6 HT Robocop. Perfect match, scale wise...

in order to solve the riddle of scale (Conan Reference, duh), one must first pinpoint which of these pieces is of the accurate scale, which one is the benchmark. and after identfying the benchmark we can compare and contrast the scales of the other pieces to the reference piece to best determine which is the most out of scale. I do believe that ED-209 and Cain are right on the money with each other.

Cain was supposed to be what?, 9 foot something on screen. Robocop was in the six foot something range. If we are using the Cain puppet as the correct benchmark, then that would would put the Tippett Robocop puppet (and the Hot Toys figure) around the 7.0-7.5 feet tall. which is too big for Robocop. the Tippett Studio Scale replicas of ED-209 and Cain do appear to be PERFECTLY in scale with each other.

Animachina
05-01-2015, 01:21 PM
...the Tippett Studio Scale replicas of ED-209 and Cain do appear to be PERFECTLY in scale with each other.

I have to respectfully disagree with you there Shogun. I think ED will look too small next to Cain...

LEC
05-01-2015, 02:03 PM
Cain's girlfriend?

Animachina
05-01-2015, 02:49 PM
Cain's girlfriend?

Good catch! :thumbs2: I was wondering about that!

Chronicle CS
05-01-2015, 04:46 PM
Tippett Studios used the Horizon model kit for the puppets in Robocop 2. ED-209 in the photos above are in the rested position and while he's about the same size, Cain and ED are in scale to one another.

I'll stick with Phil's sense of scale over the toy companies any day.

Enforcer
05-01-2015, 05:00 PM
Cain and ED look in scale to me. It's just the Robocop that looks large. Yet, the Robo I can only assume is supposed to be in scale with Cain so, what the eff?

Perhaps ED in that vintage picture is at it's lowest height point? Legs extended none whatsoever, rested position? So that Robo appears taller next to him. Yet Cain appears as a shrimp in comparison if we're to assume he's supposed to be 9' tall in movie form?

Maybe the whole 9' thing we shouldn't dwell on too much. It is a movie after all, and a "omg he's 9' tall!" is a lot more menacing than "omg he's 8 foot tall!" kind of like how in wrestling they exaggerate wrestlers height and weight to make them appear larger to the audience.

He doesn't scream "omg everybody's screwed!" height wise to me in this shot
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131228190955/villains/images/b/b4/Cain_11.jpg

Chronicle CS
05-01-2015, 05:21 PM
It's all about perspective....

thx217
05-01-2015, 06:05 PM
What's up with all these scale talk? So what? Your post count will grow.. lol

Chronicle CS
05-01-2015, 06:07 PM
LOL

The SHOGUN
05-01-2015, 08:07 PM
What's up with all these scale talk? So what? Your post count will grow.. lol

The topic has many factors to consider which makes for a fun, layered conversation.

CallMe_Snake
05-01-2015, 08:22 PM
What's up with all these scale talk? So what? Your post count will grow.. lol

Haha.

Yeah, for me the scale is not that important. The only thing that matters to me is what Phil Tippet studios used for the original production of these movies, and we already know these are cast part for part from his models.

Regardless of what the actual, technically exact scale is.. these are replicas of what was used to make the movies.
A true piece of movie making history..
Not some idealized toy trying to look like what was seen on screen... essentially, Chronicle's replicas ARE what was seen on screen. :buttrock:

thx217
05-01-2015, 08:45 PM
The topic has many factors to consider which makes for a fun, layered conversation.

Not really.

The SHOGUN
05-01-2015, 09:25 PM
Not really.

in this conversation we've been comparing and contrasting:
-the scale of the collectibles we will display on our shelves
-the scale of the characters as they appear on screen
-the actual size of the characters as they appear in real-life in behind the scenes and on set.
-the intended scale as the writers, producers and creators intended.


All of these bullet points relate directly to the Chronicle ED-209.

again, the Chronicle pieces aren't flawed, they're perfect and that what makes this scale discussion so intriguing.

PermaGrin
05-01-2015, 09:57 PM
Do not forget how it was mentioned a while ago about how the life sized props would compress and settle due to weight and construction materials, as compared to 1/6 scale models.

Enforcer
05-01-2015, 11:13 PM
What SHOGUN said, but I guess we should stop discussing this since not everyone approves. I am being sarcastic, of course, in a very lighthearted manner. But perhaps I'll stop anyway. The frowning for obvious reasons is leaving a bad taste in my mouth, but I do understand it.

This discussion was quite intriguing. Perhaps if someone takes the time to create a new thread so we don't have to worry about disapproval, I will participate in it. I've seen and heard several fascinating things that I otherwise would still be oblivious to.

Animachina
05-02-2015, 12:27 AM
What SHOGUN said, but I guess we should stop discussing this since not everyone approves. I am being sarcastic, of course, in a very lighthearted manner. But perhaps I'll stop anyway. The frowning for obvious reasons is leaving a bad taste in my mouth, but I do understand it.

This discussion was quite intriguing. Perhaps if someone takes the time to create a new thread so we don't have to worry about disapproval, I will participate in it. I've seen and heard several fascinating things that I otherwise would still be oblivious to.

Here's a little bit of old, but still good info on Ed-209 (assuming you haven't seen it before). http://robocoparchive.com/info/making1-ed209.htm

A full scale ED, being at least 7' at his shortest, rest position would make him 14" tall at 1/6 scale - period. I don't mind if Paul has his info wrong ;) or that I get laughed at over obsessing :dork: about the details over our $1K+ purchases. :thinking: As long as CC keeps making the best damn replicas I have seen to date (Cain was a holy grail piece for me) and doesn't ban me for asking too many questions, I'll be happy... (My last word the topic???):praying:

jaxon
05-02-2015, 12:44 AM
It doesn't really matter, as this IS a replica of the stop motion puppet, not the full size Ed-209.

CallMe_Snake
05-02-2015, 12:55 AM
It doesn't really matter, as this IS a replica of the stop motion puppet, not the full size Ed-209.

:goodpost:

Exactly! I don't know why anyone is debating this.

:banghead:

There is no debate about if the size/scale is right or wrong on this replica.

This is a part-for-part replica of THE stop-motion puppet used during the making of the movie. End of discussion....

If anyone on this planet knows for absolute certain what size it actually was, it's Phil Tippet and by extension, Paul. :doh!:

What else is there to debate about this?

Animachina
05-02-2015, 01:14 AM
:goodpost:

Exactly! I don't know why anyone is debating this.

:banghead:

There is no debate about if the size/scale is right or wrong on this replica.

This is a part-for-part replica of THE stop-motion puppet used during the making of the movie. End of discussion....

If anyone on this planet knows for absolute certain what size it actually was, it's Phil Tippet and by extension, Paul. :doh!:

What else is there to debate about this?

The "debate" was NEVER about the replica being "right or wrong" - that's silly. The question came up when some buyers wanted to know what would make a proper "companion" piece to the replica should they choose to display it with one. They might want to have a properly scaled Robocop next to the perfect ED for example. Shameful, isn't it? :nuts:

El Diablo
05-02-2015, 02:28 AM
in this conversation we've been comparing and contrasting:
-the scale of the collectibles we will display on our shelves
-the scale of the characters as they appear on screen
-the actual size of the characters as they appear in real-life in behind the scenes and on set.
-the intended scale as the writers, producers and creators intended.


All of these bullet points relate directly to the Chronicle ED-209.

again, the Chronicle pieces aren't flawed, they're perfect and that what makes this scale discussion so intriguing.

The "debate" was NEVER about the replica being "right or wrong" - that's silly. The question came up when some buyers wanted to know what would make a proper "companion" piece to the replica should they choose to display it with one. They might want to have a properly scaled Robocop next to the perfect ED for example. Shameful, isn't it? :nuts:

:goodpost: (both of them) :iagree:


Jesus why do people have to go on the defensive just because some are discussing something that interests/intrigues them? that's what the forum is for! there's no bashing going on, no complaining. If those robo's got released we'd all buy one regardless of scale due to their history but it's just a subject that interests some people so accept it!

Or would you prefer we don't bothing discussing these subjects and just stick to the 'that's nice' posts because that'll be REAL interesting :banghead:

El Diablo
05-02-2015, 02:30 AM
:goodpost:

Exactly! I don't know why anyone is debating this.

:banghead:

There is no debate about if the size/scale is right or wrong on this replica.

This is a part-for-part replica of THE stop-motion puppet used during the making of the movie. End of discussion....

If anyone on this planet knows for absolute certain what size it actually was, it's Phil Tippet and by extension, Paul. :doh!:

What else is there to debate about this?

if you don't like it don't read it, or add people to your block list on your user profile then you won't see their posts. I'm sure none of us will lose any sleep over it.

CallMe_Snake
05-02-2015, 03:29 AM
Jesus why do people have to go on the defensive just because some are discussing something that interests/intrigues them? that's what the forum is for! there's no bashing going on, no complaining. If those robo's got released we'd all buy one regardless of scale due to their history but it's just a subject that interests some people so accept it!

Or would you prefer we don't bothing discussing these subjects and just stick to the 'that's nice' posts because that'll be REAL interesting :banghead:

if you don't like it don't read it, or add people to your block list on your user profile then you won't see their posts. I'm sure none of us will lose any sleep over it.

Door swings both ways pal, if you don't like someone addressing the nitpicking you can ignor that just the same.

:ignore:

My point is, this thread is about the stop-motion puppet replica Chronicle is offering.. Not a replica of the full scale ED. So bickering over the details of the scale is a little dumb, especially when Paul has already addressed the size issue.

Ive seen Ed at Tippett Studios and while I agree he's taller than 6', he's not ten feet tall like the HT version.

I've stood close to the real thing and I'm 6'4" and I could see the top of the dome.

Paul

Tippett Studios used the Horizon model kit for the puppets in Robocop 2. ED-209 in the photos above are in the rested position and while he's about the same size, Cain and ED are in scale to one another.

I'll stick with Phil's sense of scale over the toy companies any day.

That last line there says it all..

Yet people are still questioning, doubting Paul's knowlege about the scale of ED-209 and Cain.

Look, of course you're free to discuss whatever you want but if your dead set on theorizing the true size of ED-209 vs Robocop maybe you're better off starting a topic on a Robocop fan site somehwere..
Being that THIS topic is about the stop-motion puppet replica Chronicle is offering and Paul has already addressed the scale.

That's why it gets annoying to see people still posting photos trying to argue the size of ED, after Paul has cleared it up.

I'll take Phil's sense of scale over anyone else's as well... Nothing more to discuss about it.

El Diablo
05-02-2015, 04:48 AM
Door swings both ways pal, if you don't like someone addressing the nitpicking you can ignor that just the same.

:ignore:

My point is, this thread is about the stop-motion puppet replica Chronicle is offering.. Not a replica of the full scale ED. So bickering over the details of the scale is a little dumb, especially when Paul has already addressed the size issue.





That last line there says it all..

Yet people are still questioning, doubting Paul's knowlege about the scale of ED-209 and Cain.

Look, of course you're free to discuss whatever you want but if your dead set on theorizing the true size of ED-209 vs Robocop maybe you're better off starting a topic on a Robocop fan site somehwere..
Being that THIS topic is about the stop-motion puppet replica Chronicle is offering and Paul has already addressed the scale.

That's why it gets annoying to see people still posting photos trying to argue the size of ED, after Paul has cleared it up.

I'll take Phil's sense of scale over anyone else's as well... Nothing more to discuss about it.

But it's not nit picking that's my point it's just fans discussing things, no bashing, no criticism, no arguing just discussion (which BTW I'll do wherever I want) . If you read the comments again you'll note that they ARE about the studio cain, ed and robocop the full size was just used as comparison. AGAIN nobody is questioning Paul's knowledge or Phil's ability to scale things it's just a fascination on how they made things that weren't in scale appear to be in scale on screen (which makes them more clever in my book).

Darth Milo
05-02-2015, 08:15 AM
We'll be announcing the extras you will get for ordering direct this week....

Paul

That was from april the 12th. ;)
Can you tell us what those extras are ? :)

Gruson
05-02-2015, 10:25 AM
Here's a little bit of old, but still good info on Ed-209 (assuming you haven't seen it before). http://robocoparchive.com/info/making1-ed209.htm

A full scale ED, being at least 7' at his shortest, rest position would make him 14" tall at 1/6 scale - period. I don't mind if Paul has his info wrong ;) or that I get laughed at over obsessing :dork: about the details over our $1K+ purchases. :thinking: As long as CC keeps making the best damn replicas I have seen to date (Cain was a holy grail piece for me) and doesn't ban me for asking too many questions, I'll be happy... (My last word the topic???):praying:

I thought the Chronicle piece was smaller than 1/6 scale, thanks for posting. I also thought ED-209 was taller than Robo.

LEC
05-02-2015, 10:35 AM
That was from april the 12th. ;)
Can you tell us what those extras are ? :)

Aaah, toucher my friend!!

But like Paul mentioned... it will come with a broken arm and *another half ED-209 :tongue:

*wishful thinking....

The SHOGUN
05-02-2015, 10:38 AM
It doesn't really matter, as this IS a replica of the stop motion puppet.

no one is arguing that it's not.

:goodpost:

Exactly! I don't know why anyone is debating this.

:banghead:

There is no debate about if the size/scale is right or wrong on this replica.

This is a part-for-part replica of THE stop-motion puppet used during the making of the movie. End of discussion....

If anyone on this planet knows for absolute certain what size it actually was, it's Phil Tippet and by extension, Paul. :doh!:

What else is there to debate about this?

The Tippett group photo posted with all the stop motion puppets clearly highlighted that somewhere there was a miss with the official puppet sizes and scale compared to each other as used in the films = the conversation.

The "debate" was NEVER about the replica being "right or wrong" - that's silly. The question came up when some buyers wanted to know what would make a proper "companion" piece to the replica should they choose to display it with one. They might want to have a properly scaled Robocop next to the perfect ED for example. Shameful, isn't it? :nuts:

Exactly!


Jesus why do people have to go on the defensive just because some are discussing something that interests/intrigues them? that's what the forum is for! there's no bashing going on, no complaining. If those robo's got released we'd all buy one regardless of scale due to their history but it's just a subject that interests some people so accept it!

Or would you prefer we don't bothing discussing these subjects and just stick to the 'that's nice' posts because that'll be REAL interesting :banghead:

i much rather see conversation like this than reading the "that's nice" posts.

But it's not nit picking that's my point it's just fans discussing things, no bashing, no criticism, no arguing just discussion (which BTW I'll do wherever I want) . If you read the comments again you'll note that they ARE about the studio cain, ed and robocop the full size was just used as comparison. AGAIN nobody is questioning Paul's knowledge or Phil's ability to scale things it's just a fascination on how they made things that weren't in scale appear to be in scale on screen (which makes them more clever in my book).

just true fans geeking out over one of their favorite films.

Darth Milo
05-02-2015, 04:39 PM
Aaah, toucher my friend!!

But like Paul mentioned... it will come with a broken arm and *another half ED-209 :tongue:

*wishful thinking....

Cool.. thanks, looking forward to some pictures :thumbs2:

ZenLogikos
05-02-2015, 05:24 PM
I agree with Shogun, Animachina, etc.

There were some incorrect scale assumptions being thrown around that needed to be clarified.

Whatever the scale of the replica, it is perfect, and I'd buy it if I could afford it. I can't, so I bought the 1:6 HT instead.

As gimmicky as sound effects may be, I probably would have found a way to afford this if there was a speaker in the base(especially in light of HT dropping the ball on the SFX in theirs). I would understand anyone rolling their eyes at that idea, but for me, ED's voice is at least half his appeal. Again, strictly as a prop replica, I understand that it's inclusion is dubious.

Animachina
05-03-2015, 09:18 PM
Here's a link to a Flickr album I put together with all the pics I took of the ED-209 puppett while I was working at Tippett studio. The pics are pretty crappy and the case has a lot of glare on it, but yu can still glean a few details from them.

https://flic.kr/s/aHskaNphiT

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7769/16735015294_15854d2355_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ruPk1s)IMG_0853s (https://flic.kr/p/ruPk1s) by animachina (https://www.flickr.com/people/23059127@N05/), on Flickr


Now you just have to wait to get the next best thing (in much better condition) in your hands!

The SHOGUN
05-03-2015, 10:18 PM
Here's a link to a Flickr album I put together with all the pics I took of the ED-209 puppett while I was working at Tippett studio. The pics are pretty crappy and the case has a lot of glare on it, but yu can still glean a few details from them.

https://flic.kr/s/aHskaNphiT

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7769/16735015294_15854d2355_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ruPk1s)IMG_0853s (https://flic.kr/p/ruPk1s) by animachina (https://www.flickr.com/people/23059127@N05/), on Flickr


Now you just have to wait to get the next best thing (in much better condition) in your hands!

i wonder why the arms are reversed? The single barrel arm should be on ED's right and double barrel on the left.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img842/1069/3htf.jpg
https://timsfilmreviews.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/robocop-ed-209.jpg

Animachina
05-03-2015, 10:32 PM
i wonder why the arms are reversed? The single barrel arm should be on ED's right and double barrel on the left.


Yeah. It was probably in a bunch of pieces before being reassembled for display. Someone just made a mistake in the reassembly.

darb
05-03-2015, 11:38 PM
Or the picture is flipped lol

Python
05-04-2015, 04:43 AM
Or the picture is flipped lol

It would still be wrong if you flipped it, the missing barrel is on the outside,

Chronicle CS
05-04-2015, 05:45 PM
The ED above was reconfigured for Robocop 3 and the hands were just put in the wrong arms...