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Hellboy
09-01-2014, 02:50 PM
Hello everyone,

I'm excited to kick off our third Statue Forum private commission. This is designed to be a companion piece to our Guardians of the Galaxy project currently underway. So once again...

OUR ARTIST:

Alexander Iaccarino aka "That Kid Who Draws"

OUR SUBJECT:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i26/Hellboy1138/Forum%20-%20Art/file-135.jpg


This group commission is being run by FROBAY and myself.



Those of you who participated in our Dredd and/or Guardians of the Galaxy commission will be familiar with the process...
Alexander will be joining us here on the forum to participate with our group directly, asking for suggestions and/or feedback during the ideation phase and posting teasers/sketches before the poster is finalized.
Comments in this discussion thread will be open to the entire forum but the actual participation in regards to artist interaction will be limited to those on the official commissioner list and I will be moderating the thread accordingly.

*** IMPORTANT NOTE ***

Due to this print being designed as a companion piece for Guardians of the Galaxy it is being offered to members in that commission group first.
Buy-in window for existing GotG commission members will be open for 7 days and will be closed at 12pm Monday Sept 8th.
After that any extras, IF they remain, will be thrown into a pool and we will do a random drawing to see who will have a shot at purchasing them.
Participants for that drawing will be collected in this thread at a later date if necessary. Please do not PM us about getting in.
Purchases on the Avengers print are limited to no more than what you initially purchased in the GotG commission. For example: if you purchased 2 GotG prints you may purchase 2 Avengers prints but no more. You may however opt to purchase less if you like which will enable others to get in on this.





PRINT SPECS:

65 prints in total
55 main + 10 AP's for the artist
4-5 color screen print at 24x36"
Signed by the Artist
Matching numbered sets for GotG commission members
Ships separate from GotG commission


PAYMENT / BUY-IN:

NOTE: This is a BLIND BUY-IN - NO REFUNDS
Price is $50 + $6 for poster tube
No more than 2 prints will be shipped per tube so adjust payments accordingly if buying more than 2
Shipping will be billed later.
Those interested simply send payment to the same PayPal address you sent your GotG payment to.
Please enter in the subject line "Avengers" and your forum "name" to make it easy for us to determine who is who.
Until payment is received you are not officially a part of this commission group.


SHIPPING:

Shipping charges will vary depending on location.
Cost will be determined when the project is complete and will be the actual cost to ship.
All US shipping will be done through FedEx.
International shipping will be through USPS.
Insurance & tracking will be included on both.
Poster will ship in a sturdy Yazoo Mills tube.


DETAILS:


Group participants will be listed at the bottom of this post and updated accordigly.
Only when you have submitted payment will you be added to the list.
Estimated completion time for this commission is TBD as it is contingent on the progress of GotG.



Again if you are interested in purchasing this send payment to the same PayPal address as the GotG commission. $50 + 6 tube purchase (no more than 2 prints per tube) is the buy-in with shipping cost TBD and collected later.


Statue Forum Exclusive Private Commission Group:

FROBAY
Hellboy
Luminous
zeus
bloodrain
Dan_Lebou
candyrocket786
jon.reynolds
SpenK
Toaster
dechirico7
Underdog07
Krypton Knight
Sskaaar
Cocopup96
Matches Malone
MONSTER
pavehawk78
Sonic509
Ibeechee
Keewan
DRL
Nidgit
woozie0
gregin8er
BOSCO
jjdungca
a4nam
chibioy
zadmax
Demona
ALPH4T34M
Sigep756
Dirt Torpedo


http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i26/Hellboy1138/Forum%20-%20Art/file-160.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i26/Hellboy1138/Forum%20-%20Art/file-161.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i26/Hellboy1138/Forum%20-%20Art/file-162.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i26/Hellboy1138/Forum%20-%20Art/file-163.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i26/Hellboy1138/Forum%20-%20Art/file-164.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i26/Hellboy1138/Forum%20-%20Art/file-165.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i26/Hellboy1138/Forum%20-%20Art/file-166.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i26/Hellboy1138/Forum%20-%20Art/file-167.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i26/Hellboy1138/Forum%20-%20Art/file-168.jpg

Luminous
09-01-2014, 02:57 PM
I'm in. Cash money sent.

zeus
09-01-2014, 02:58 PM
I'm in and paid.

bloodrain
09-01-2014, 03:02 PM
In and paid

biglebowski9999
09-01-2014, 03:07 PM
I definitely want in on this one. Please pm the Paypal address as I am not part of GotG project.

FROBAY
09-01-2014, 03:13 PM
I definitely want in on this one. Please pm the Paypal address as I am not part of GotG project.

You'll have to wait bro. This piece is a compliment to the GOTG Commission as such they have first shot in securing this. If there are any left after the pay deadline there will be a post in here letting everyone know and Hellboy will do a drawing/lotto for any remaining prints.

Dan_Lebou
09-01-2014, 03:18 PM
Oh hell yeah! Payment sent!

biglebowski9999
09-01-2014, 03:26 PM
You'll have to wait bro. This piece is a compliment to the GOTG Commission as such they have first shot in securing this. If there are any left after the pay deadline there will be a post in here letting everyone know and Hellboy will do a drawing/lotto for any remaining prints.

Gotcha.

FROBAY
09-01-2014, 03:29 PM
Gotcha.

We got a Winter Soldier coming up a little ways down the road and there will not be any "commission group Dibs". The entire Forum will have an equal chance to become apart of that project.

candyrocket786
09-01-2014, 03:34 PM
Payment sent.

Hellboy
09-01-2014, 03:45 PM
I definitely want in on this one. Please pm the Paypal address as I am not part of GotG project.

You'll have to wait bro. This piece is a compliment to the GOTG Commission as such they have first shot in securing this. If there are any left after the pay deadline there will be a post in here letting everyone know and Hellboy will do a drawing/lotto for any remaining prints.

Gotcha.

Hopefully we have a few spots up for grabs for others to get in on. Good chance not everyone who is interested in GotG will be interested in The Avengers and/or someone who purchased multiples may not want a set for each GotG print they purchased. A week from today and we will know for sure.

jon.reynolds
09-01-2014, 03:46 PM
I'm in!

SpenK
09-01-2014, 04:06 PM
Payment Sent!!
Thanks In Advance!!
Otto:D

Bullseye
09-01-2014, 04:13 PM
Kinda surprised this is being tackled before Winter Soldier. Already have the Mondo one so I'll be passing on this one.

Bullseye
09-01-2014, 04:15 PM
Disregard the above . Thanks Fro.

dechirico7
09-01-2014, 04:35 PM
I am in and payment was just sent.

Would love to see a print from x-men DOFP

Also, would it be possible to have the GOTG printed held until the Avengers print was done and to have them ship at the same time, so we could save on shipping?

DRL
09-01-2014, 04:35 PM
I'm in again! Thanks for setting this up!

wanderlai
09-01-2014, 04:43 PM
I'm interested but I missed out on GotG. If a slot opens PM me.

Hellboy
09-01-2014, 05:06 PM
Any remaining prints will be thrown into our lottery. If you're interested please post in this thread...

The Avengers - Private Commission Lotto (http://www.statueforum.com/showthread.php?p=4895654#post4895654)

Please read all the details surrounding the lotto. Thanks.

Toaster
09-01-2014, 05:18 PM
Happy I stumbled across this today - payment sent!

Hellboy
09-01-2014, 05:27 PM
Also, would it be possible to have the GOTG printed held until the Avengers print was done and to have them ship at the same time, so we could save on shipping?

Unfortunately no, we won't be able to do that for three reasons...


The completion dates have the potential of being a ways apart.
We need to know ASAP if we have any shipping damages on GotG so we can cover replacements.
Logistically it's just a lot of extra work managing who is getting what when holding onto things for a later ship date.

Krypton Knight
09-01-2014, 05:30 PM
Payment sent

Sskaaar
09-01-2014, 06:08 PM
I'm in and payment sent.

cocopup96
09-01-2014, 06:16 PM
In and paid!

This is going to be great :D

DRL
09-01-2014, 06:25 PM
Payment sent!

Underdog07
09-01-2014, 06:37 PM
In and paid. Ordered 2 halves.

FROBAY
09-01-2014, 06:54 PM
Everybody, thanks for the fast payments. Looks like 15 spots left.

Matches Malone
09-01-2014, 07:11 PM
Everybody, thanks for the fast payments. Looks like 15 spots left.

14;)
Took all of 30 seconds to make the decision once I finally logged onto the site today.

Thanks a million once again to Scott and yourself.

pavehawk78
09-01-2014, 07:34 PM
Payment sent. Thanks again Frobay and Hellboy.

zeus
09-01-2014, 07:51 PM
Will you update the front page for people that payed,want to make sure you received my payment.

apetrucc
09-01-2014, 07:53 PM
In am in...just read the rules..

lbeechee
09-01-2014, 07:53 PM
I'm in and payment sent.

keewan
09-01-2014, 07:54 PM
I'm in and payment sent.

FROBAY
09-01-2014, 07:56 PM
Will you update the front page for people that payed,want to make sure you received my payment.

I got it.

Here is a quick paid list, Hellboy will post officially towards the end of the week. If I spelled your forum name wrong, forgive me I was in a hurry



1. FROBAY
2. Hellboy
3. Zeus
4. Bloodrain
5. Dan Lebou
6. Candyrocket786
7. Jon Reynolds
8. Spenk
9. Toaster
10. Dechirico7
11. Underdog07
12. Krypton Knight
13. Sskaaar
14. Cocopup
15. Luminous
16. Matches Malone
17. Pavehawk78
18. Sonic509
19. Ibeechee
20. Keewan
21. DRL

DRL
09-01-2014, 08:09 PM
This one is going quick!

Nidgit
09-01-2014, 09:11 PM
Thanks lads. I'm in. Payment sent. :thumbs2:

FROBAY
09-01-2014, 09:13 PM
7 left

Hellboy
09-02-2014, 12:08 AM
The official list on post 1 has now been updated.

Nidgit
09-02-2014, 12:31 AM
The official list on post 1 has now been updated.

Snubbed eh :stick:

woozie0
09-02-2014, 01:31 AM
Payment sent!

Hellboy
09-02-2014, 02:47 AM
Snubbed eh :stick:

Ooof! :doh!: chalk it up to a long day my friend. Fixed!

Nidgit
09-02-2014, 02:58 AM
Ooof! :doh!: chalk it up to a long day my friend. Fixed!

:laugh:

Thanks mate. Had a long day myself. It's almost home time though :drinking:

gregin8er
09-02-2014, 04:10 AM
I'm in but may not be able to pay until Friday, will have to check the finances. Thanks.

Thor57
09-02-2014, 06:55 AM
Was it made known beforehand with the Guardians piece that an Avengers was coming and if I wanted it I needed to jump in on the Guardians? I dont recall reading that. If not, is there any way we can get advanced notice if dual packages are being built? I didnt really care to have a Guardians but would have pulled that trigger had I known about the following Avengers. I'll be devastated if I miss out on the Avengers on in the lotto.

Hellboy
09-02-2014, 12:37 PM
Was it made known beforehand with the Guardians piece that an Avengers was coming and if I wanted it I needed to jump in on the Guardians? I dont recall reading that. If not, is there any way we can get advanced notice if dual packages are being built? I didnt really care to have a Guardians but would have pulled that trigger had I known about the following Avengers. I'll be devastated if I miss out on the Avengers on in the lotto.

Guardians was planned first, the decision to follow it up with The Avengers as a companion piece came later.

As far as advanced notice goes, it's a tricky situation with private commissions. Firstly they're very limited so no matter what you do someone is always going to end up being left out. Secondly you never know how popular a project is going to be until you put it out there. The commission could sell out in a day or it could take weeks. Really depends on the artist, material and pricing.

Simplyrob
09-02-2014, 02:41 PM
holy hell! you cats work quick around here. try to leave the hobby and you guys suck me right back in! haha. buncha bad influences around here. maybe I'm just a pushover. whatever. paid.

RELStuart
09-02-2014, 07:44 PM
We got a Winter Soldier coming up a little ways down the road and there will not be any "commission group Dibs". The entire Forum will have an equal chance to become apart of that project.

I'd just like to point out this was Bullseye's idea (Winter Soldier print), Replicant Savior and then I said we wanted in in the GofTG thread. So, if we can go ahead and put me down as number 3 on this that would be great. :) :drooling: :hi:

candyrocket786
09-03-2014, 12:44 AM
Maybe make the ES TBD for Winter Soldier?

Regardless, I guess I'll need to watch for the thread like a hawk since I don't get "commission group Dibs" on the next one.

RELStuart
09-03-2014, 08:05 AM
With the interest in this one, is there a reason the ES can't be bumped to 70 /75 on this?

biglebowski9999
09-03-2014, 11:59 AM
With the interest in this one, is there a reason the ES can't be bumped to 70 /75 on this?

I was thinking another issue is the ability to buy multiples. I'm assuming that was put into place to help ensure there will be a sell out...that is obviously not a concern now (hindsight is always 20-20). But at the end of the day you have an already small ES but because most members buy multiples not even 30 forum members are even in on it.

FROBAY
09-03-2014, 01:05 PM
I was thinking another issue is the ability to buy multiples. I'm assuming that was put into place to help ensure there will be a sell out...that is obviously not a concern now (hindsight is always 20-20). But at the end of the day you have an already small ES but because most members buy multiples not even 30 forum members are even in on it.

True, but were learning as we go.

Hellboy
09-03-2014, 02:32 PM
We have bumped the ES of both this print and the Guardians of the Galaxy print up by 5 pieces. The run will now be an even 60 prints with 55 available to commissioner members and 5 APs going to the artist.

As of this time we have 6 guaranteed prints to be entered into The Avengers lotto with the possibility of 1 more. So as it stands you have a pretty fair shot at acquiring this piece.

If you would like to enter the Guardians of the Galaxy Lotto as well please do so HERE (http://www.statueforum.com/showthread.php?p=4896626#post4896626). Same rules apply but there are only 5 available.

biglebowski9999
09-03-2014, 03:56 PM
True, but were learning as we go.

No doubt. Honestly, if I were running it I would have done the same thing. It's not easy to gauge what the interest will be on something like this, especially the first time out.

RELStuart
09-04-2014, 01:00 AM
We have bumped the ES of both this print and the Guardians of the Galaxy print up by 5 pieces. The run will now be an even 60 prints with 55 available to commissioner members and 5 APs going to the artist.

As of this time we have 6 guaranteed prints to be entered into The Avengers lotto with the possibility of 1 more. So as it stands you have a pretty fair shot at acquiring this piece.

If you would like to enter the Guardians of the Galaxy Lotto as well please do so HERE (http://www.statueforum.com/showthread.php?p=4896626#post4896626). Same rules apply but there are only 5 available.

I just wanted to say thanks for doing that for us. Cheers.

Thor57
09-04-2014, 05:52 AM
Thanks for increasing the ES Hellboy. Thank the artist too. Thats awesome.

Good luck to all.

Hellboy
09-09-2014, 02:00 PM
FYI - lotto winners have been announced.

postulio
09-10-2014, 11:06 AM
I'm interested. Question - why not expand the edition to allow more forum members to participate?

Simplyrob
09-10-2014, 03:24 PM
I'm interested. Question - why not expand the edition to allow more forum members to participate?

i think they just did that in a couple of different ways.

Matches Malone
09-10-2014, 10:32 PM
Here is a thought... what if we morph this into a an Age of Ultron commission and with the potentially forthcoming Winter Solider piece we could commission IM3 and T:tDW pieces and then we would have a full phase 2 series :D

Simplyrob
09-11-2014, 03:09 AM
Here is a thought... what if we morph this into a an Age of Ultron commission and with the potentially forthcoming Winter Solider piece we could commission IM3 and T:tDW pieces and then we would have a full phase 2 series :D

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! :ignore:

Bullseye
09-11-2014, 04:28 AM
An IM trilogy would be great. One poster covering three movies.

zeus
09-11-2014, 05:45 AM
Lets gets through these 2 first and then talk about IM,Cap.america,Thor commissions.

wanderlai
09-11-2014, 07:20 AM
No X-Men love in the future?

Hellboy
09-11-2014, 03:48 PM
The list has been finalized. This print is now officially sold out with the addition of the lotto winners.

Statue Forum Exclusive Private Commission Group:

FROBAY
Hellboy
Luminous
zeus
bloodrain
Dan_Lebou
candyrocket786
jon.reynolds
SpenK
Toaster
dechirico7
Underdog07
Krypton Knight
Sskaaar
Cocopup96
Matches Malone
MONSTER
pavehawk78
Sonic509
Ibeechee
Keewan
DRL
Nidgit
woozie0
gregin8er
BOSCO
Simplyrob
a4nam
chibioy
zadmax
Demona
ALPH4T34M
Sigep756
Dirt Torpedo

zeus
09-18-2014, 07:16 PM
No update?

Underdog07
09-20-2014, 11:47 AM
No X-Men love in the future?

No. :stick::hi::hilarious:

Seriously, no. :goodpost:

:tumblew:

jjdungca
11-20-2014, 07:40 PM
SOB another TKWD commission that I missed out on....I need to visit this forum more often. Again congrats guys!

Matches Malone
11-22-2014, 08:26 AM
Anyone interested in making this one an Age of Ultron piece rather than an Avengers one?

zeus
11-22-2014, 09:32 AM
I rather have an avengers one and then in the future a Age of ultron one.

Underdog07
11-22-2014, 10:04 AM
I rather have an avengers one and then in the future a Age of ultron one.

+1.

Bullseye
11-22-2014, 11:22 AM
Anyone interested in making this one an Age of Ultron piece rather than an Avengers one?

I passed on this because I already have an Avengers but I would like an Age of Ultron.

dechirico7
11-22-2014, 11:25 AM
Maybe after I see the new movie. Do we even know who is going to be in the movie? Sure, they announced some of the top characters, but there could be interesting cameos. I think going with Avengers for now would be better.

Demona
12-01-2014, 05:09 PM
I'm going to ask this right now -- seeing as the GOTG print changed color #, should we prepare for that now?

I imagine that this group of people might end up asking for more than 5 colors, plus we'd all like it to be as stunning as the GOTG print. I don't have both, I'm just getting Avengers, but still I know I'd like them to match in depth.

Though I'd still like there to not be a variant, and if we are forewarned with the cost change we can all prepare.

Just my two cents.

zeus
12-01-2014, 05:55 PM
If GOTG will have a variant I will prefer Avengers to have a variant also to match things up.

Dan_Lebou
12-01-2014, 05:56 PM
Based on the costs quoted for a 65 print run with 9 colours on the GotG print, advise all those who have signed up for this print what the extra charge will cost based on there being no change to the print run and those who wish to remain a part of the commission can cough up the extra and those who don't can choose to drop out. The extra spaces can then be offered to people who were involved in the original lottery but were unsuccessful on a randomly selected basis.

FROBAY
12-01-2014, 06:04 PM
Hi All.

We will get into this as we approach the start.

I will say This, the colors and metallics will be as every bit as good as GOTG, we will not cut corners!!!


We will decide how to approach the cost difference after the GOTG is printed and done and we know more.

Refunds can be given upon request but no member to member transfers will be allowed. As I have a wait list for this commission.

jon.reynolds
12-01-2014, 06:56 PM
I think this should definitely go whichever way GotG ends up going. They started as a match and should stay that way. If that means a variant for each so be it.

Sigep756
12-01-2014, 07:51 PM
I agree with jon.reynolds...keep it identical

FROBAY
12-02-2014, 07:39 PM
I just talked with Alex and he has been collecting resource material and knows exactly how the general layout will be to compliment the GOTG print. Keep in mind both prints can be stand alone, they don't require the other.

Yes, There will be a variant, we will keep it the same as GOTG. The variant can only be color changes just like the GOTG print.

We should see some pics come up as soon as the GOTG is finished printed.

candyrocket786
12-02-2014, 08:46 PM
candyrocket786 +1 VARIANT

:laugh:

Simplyrob
12-03-2014, 02:01 AM
Man, I'd love if this goes exactly as the GOTG. What a success. Totally cool with the extra cost for a variant too. Should be smooth sailing if we're at the same kinda #'s.

Nidgit
12-03-2014, 02:07 AM
Well then, I'm getting in early too and I want to see Loki furiously stroking his sceptre :buttrock:

Stark to Loki: "What ya doing with that sceptre there Loki?"

Loki to Stark: "It's mine and I'll rub it as fast as I like"

Simplyrob
12-03-2014, 04:58 AM
Well then, I'm getting in early too and I want to see Loki furiously stroking his sceptre :buttrock:

Stark to Loki: "What ya doing with that sceptre there Loki?"

Loki to Stark: "It's mine and I'll rub it as fast as I like"

Sounds like a sketch.

KELPIE
12-03-2014, 07:41 PM
Baby Groot in this one...?

FROBAY
12-03-2014, 08:49 PM
Sounds like a sketch.

Do it.:eek:

Simplyrob
12-03-2014, 09:30 PM
Do it.:eek:

The last one got taken down fast. Should I just post it and leave it up to tarnish the sweet innocent eyes of this forums members until you guys pull it? Haha.

FROBAY
12-03-2014, 10:23 PM
The last one got taken down fast. Should I just post it and leave it up to tarnish the sweet innocent eyes of this forums members until you guys pull it? Haha.

In the name of art, yes. :thumbs2: lol

Underdog07
12-06-2014, 05:49 PM
UNDERDOG07 +1 variant; -1 orange; -1 Loki stroking anything; +1 infinity gem Easter egg; +1 red; -1 no agent cousin; +1 captain America cards

I think that covers the next month

Hellboy
12-06-2014, 06:23 PM
UNDERDOG07 +1 variant; -1 orange; -1 Loki stroking anything; +1 infinity gem Easter egg; +1 red; -1 no agent cousin; +1 captain America cards

I think that covers the next month

:laugh: well played.

thatkidwhodraws
12-09-2014, 03:46 PM
Hey everyone! I'm excited to start working on this one. I'll be putting up sketches in the following week and possibly livestreaming again. With the holiday madness streaming and progress will be sporadic towards the end of December.

AVENGERS is what I agreed to and what we will be creating together in this thread. If you want an AGE OF ULTRON poster you'll either have to wait until it comes out or hit up an artist who's willing to draw from a 3 minute trailer... or worse, an 80 sec teaser. Seriously, there's FORCE AWAKENS posters already! :rolleyes:

So pumped get started and to see this finished next to the GOTG print!:buttrock:

Underdog07
12-09-2014, 04:23 PM
Can't wait to see what you come up with!!

FROBAY
12-09-2014, 05:52 PM
Thanks Alex

thatkidwhodraws
01-03-2015, 11:08 PM
Been back and forth on this with all the preparation for Guardians printing. Finally putting in solid work

http://i.imgur.com/xZ7b8HV.jpg

cocopup96
01-04-2015, 02:44 AM
SOOOOOOOOOOOO excited!

DRL
01-04-2015, 03:02 AM
cant wait for this one!

thatkidwhodraws
01-04-2015, 04:57 AM
Just to give everyone an idea of the composition and character placement I've uploaded a very crude sketch. For those of you who don't know this print will complement the Guardians print so you can roughly expect similar placement.

http://i.imgur.com/oxQi11c.jpg

It's not in included but I was thinking of adding the wormhole in the sky with the snake-like ship coming out to the left. This would be reflective of the ship and moons in the Guardians piece, similarly less detailed as shadows in the background. Also, instead of a galaxy background I want to add destructive elements like burning embers and falling rubble extremely small.

I'm not going to sacrifice good comp to match the Guardians exactly. I know some of you didn't score on that one and regardless, this print needs it's own single serving composition. But damn, it's going to look so nice side by side :D

thatkidwhodraws
01-04-2015, 05:25 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Rh4L3yo.jpg

Bullseye
01-04-2015, 05:38 AM
Looking good. Will you have the same chamfered edges on the gold trim?

FROBAY
01-04-2015, 01:02 PM
That's gonna be bad ass.

Dan_Lebou
01-04-2015, 01:34 PM
http://i.imgur.com/oxQi11c.jpg


Might I offer a couple of suggestions which can be taken or left as you see fit but that's what I loved about the Guardians commission - the ability to offer ideas and those that made sense incorporated where possible.

How about swapping Hawkeye and Widow round? Hawkeye could be looking forward and have his bow drawn (so bow would be down the right side of the image) as if about to shoot an arrow past the right side of the viewer's head and Widow could have her arm extended with a gun pointing to the right of the image.

Underdog07
01-04-2015, 02:20 PM
I would rather have a larger widow to match up with Gamora - which is how it is in this draft

Underdog07
01-04-2015, 02:23 PM
To balance the number of characters, maybe consider adding Agent Coulson opposite Fury.

Matches Malone
01-04-2015, 03:36 PM
I would rather have a larger widow to match up with Gamora - which is how it is in this draft

The larger Hawkeye would be a nice change up as he is so rarely showcased IMHO.

I like your suggestion of Coulson being added, perhaps Maria Hill could also be utilized and increase the female quotient.

FROBAY
01-04-2015, 03:56 PM
I would rather have a larger widow to match up with Gamora - which is how it is in this draft

I like that too. I would like to see her arms not crossed. Don't want to cover up the twins..:flash:

a4nam
01-04-2015, 06:22 PM
Updates look good! Can't wait to see more progress

Simplyrob
01-04-2015, 06:35 PM
Holy hell! Cruisin along in here! Love the layout!

lbeechee
01-04-2015, 07:05 PM
Looks good. I agree FROBAY, let's not cover up the twins. Lol

woozie0
01-05-2015, 02:21 PM
Very nice! I really like how these two prints are looking lined up side-by-side.

I would rather have a larger widow to match up with Gamora - which is how it is in this draft

Agreed. I like the positioning as is.

I would like to see how Hawkeye would look with hand on quiver, ready to draw.

DRL
01-05-2015, 07:37 PM
I like your suggestion of Coulson being added, perhaps Maria Hill could also be utilized and increase the female quotient.

Love this idea!

FROBAY
01-05-2015, 07:43 PM
I know it's early but done forget to add "THE" in the title...The Avengers. :)

thatkidwhodraws
01-06-2015, 12:22 PM
I know it's early but done forget to add "THE" in the title...The Avengers. :)

not a problem

thatkidwhodraws
01-06-2015, 12:34 PM
Hawkeye's size/placement is indicative of his role in the film; small and in the background. He had his moments but I wouldn't give him more print real estate than Widow. Speaking of, I'll see about some different poses for the sake of the twins :)

thatkidwhodraws
01-06-2015, 03:28 PM
http://i.imgur.com/LTM3R0c.jpg

New gradient techniques are great for Iron Man! Also, Thor!

jon.reynolds
01-06-2015, 03:41 PM
Looks great so far!

SashaMitchell
01-06-2015, 04:27 PM
Since when was Josh Brolin cast as Thor? :)

Underdog07
01-06-2015, 04:44 PM
Hawkeye's size/placement is indicative of his role in the film; small and in the background. He had his moments but I wouldn't give him more print real estate than Widow. Speaking of, I'll see about some different poses for the sake of the twins :)

:thumbs2::happybirt:thumbs2::happybirt2::thumbs2:

thatkidwhodraws
01-06-2015, 07:19 PM
Since when was Josh Brolin cast as Thor? :)

Oh god, can not unsee. Gonna need to work on that

thatkidwhodraws
01-08-2015, 11:25 PM
http://i.imgur.com/pwOU2ne.jpg

Still have some gradient shades to throw on the big guy

candyrocket786
01-09-2015, 12:29 AM
So yeah.... count me in for anymore future commissions, variants, etc.

This is just freaking amazing.

FROBAY
01-10-2015, 04:00 PM
Looking good.

dechirico7
01-10-2015, 05:11 PM
Awesome. I like Loki, front and center.

thatkidwhodraws
01-11-2015, 02:28 PM
I softened up Thor a lil bit so he doesn't look so much like Brolin :hilarious: Normally I have time sit back and look at faces for a while to catch those things so thanks for pointing that out

I was really putting off the tower because of how technical it is but I think it turned out great. I'm between grey/gold for the base color though.

http://i.imgur.com/LSR5Rhz.jpg

Luminous
01-11-2015, 04:42 PM
While I think the gold base color for the tower looks good, I am concerned it may look like an extension of Iron Man's armor since it is positioned near his shoulder. Not sure if grey will look as good, but it could help make sure it is viewable as a separate object.

Simplyrob
01-11-2015, 04:45 PM
Thor looks a lot better, less Broliny. :buttrock:

FROBAY
01-11-2015, 05:01 PM
Looking good.

Demona
01-12-2015, 09:37 AM
Snap, it's time to start paying attention to this thread again!

jjdungca
01-12-2015, 09:14 PM
I need to watch this one as well even though I am not in the commission. I am sure this one will look just as great as GOTG.

Demona
01-13-2015, 12:36 AM
I'm all for adding another lady. Or at the very least making Widow look more dynamic.

Does the position of the tower bother anybody else? I think it might look better over to the left a little more since there is a lot of gold and red in the same area bc of Iron Man. A little space would help both images pop.

Krypton Knight
01-13-2015, 12:46 AM
Frobay, I just resent an email with my info.

pavehawk78
01-13-2015, 08:41 AM
I'm all for adding another lady. Or at the very least making Widow look more dynamic.

Does the position of the tower bother anybody else? I think it might look better over to the left a little more since there is a lot of gold and red in the same area bc of Iron Man. A little space would help both images pop.

I think Alex said he's going to put the worm-hole there.

chibioy
01-13-2015, 12:11 PM
Super excited now that the gotg is printing. Anybody have a spare gotg to sell to me? I would love to pair this avengers one with it!

SashaMitchell
01-17-2015, 06:36 PM
Likewise, if anyone is selling, please pm me. :)

thatkidwhodraws
01-18-2015, 01:15 PM
http://i.imgur.com/ziSMX9U.jpg

Making progress

Underdog07
01-18-2015, 03:48 PM
http://i.imgur.com/ziSMX9U.jpg

Making progress

100% confirmed that there will NOT be a green Captain America variant. YES! (But there may be a hidden Yoda variant)

Underdog07
01-18-2015, 03:50 PM
Anybody have a spare gotg to sell to me? it!

Likewise, if anyone is selling, please pm me. :)

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/underdog07_2006/imagejpg1_zps39c26603.jpg

DRL
01-19-2015, 12:39 AM
Man I can't wait for this one!

Matches Malone
01-19-2015, 12:43 PM
http://i.imgur.com/ziSMX9U.jpg

Making progress

This looks fantastic Alex - it is also a grim testament to how terrible Cap's costume was in that film. Alex captured it and Evans likeness perfectly but what was brought to screen was cringe worthy at times. The only time I ever preferred a superhero sans mask.

Luminous
01-19-2015, 02:57 PM
I guess I should have brought this up earlier when the prelim was first shown, but what does everyone else think about giving Cap a more dynamic pose? Not only do I think giving Cap some sort of action pose would bring more life to the image (I think too many of the characters are in stoic poses) but it could help with the point Matches just brought up. Cap's costume was a little too 90's superhero in Avengers. Having him throw his shield or leading a charge could help distract from the somewhat corny nature of the outfit.

Again, I should have brought this up before Alex started giving him color, but I know I would have regretted it if I didn't say something. Just something for everyone to consider.

Bullseye
01-19-2015, 03:17 PM
I'd leave the more dynamic pose for the Winter Soldier print.

Luminous
01-19-2015, 04:12 PM
I'd leave the more dynamic pose for the Winter Soldier print.

I am more concerned about this print at this point in time. While it's going to be cool that each can be cohesively displayed, each one needs to stand on their own first and foremost. If there is a Winter Soldier print we can worry about that design when the time comes.

thatkidwhodraws
01-19-2015, 05:45 PM
I'd leave the more dynamic pose for the Winter Soldier print.

That's kinda what I thought. Cap is dead on much like Thanos in the GOTG print. I thought about a couple other poses but for where he's at in the print, that one is the best. I'm going to do a different version of him without the mask to see which I like better.

lbeechee
01-19-2015, 06:41 PM
Really, so Alex are you saying your going to do a Winter Soldier commission......Hmmm, are you? Coz I totally missed that conversation. LOL!
Also will the Avengers have the 2 variants like GOTG? Just asking.

Matches Malone
01-19-2015, 08:18 PM
I guess I should have brought this up earlier when the prelim was first shown, but what does everyone else think about giving Cap a more dynamic pose? Not only do I think giving Cap some sort of action pose would bring more life to the image (I think too many of the characters are in stoic poses) but it could help with the point Matches just brought up. Cap's costume was a little too 90's superhero in Avengers. Having him throw his shield or leading a charge could help distract from the somewhat corny nature of the outfit.

Again, I should have brought this up before Alex started giving him color, but I know I would have regretted it if I didn't say something. Just something for everyone to consider.

That's kinda what I thought. Cap is dead on much like Thanos in the GOTG print. I thought about a couple other poses but for where he's at in the print, that one is the best. I'm going to do a different version of him without the mask to see which I like better.

I am good with revisions but in the mindset that whatever the layout and poses are employed for the piece they should be utilized as to best enhance its congruity with the existing GotG piece.

Underdog07
01-19-2015, 08:55 PM
I like the marching soldier of the current version (not saying I couldn't see a different version and like it more). To me this coveys the dutiful soldier aspect of Cap. Also, depending on the type of action, it might take away from the prominence of the shield.

Bullseye
01-19-2015, 08:56 PM
It also matches his state of mind in Avengers. JMO.

Underdog07
01-19-2015, 08:56 PM
Really, so Alex are you saying your going to do a Winter Soldier commission......Hmmm, are you? Coz I totally missed that conversation. LOL!
Also will the Avengers have the 2 variants like GOTG? Just asking.

Pretty sure these are the correct answers

A 3rd commission has been bandied about but nothing is set and nothing has opened up on it yet.

Yes there is going to be an Avengers variant.

lbeechee
01-19-2015, 09:31 PM
Thanks Underdog07, much appreciated.

Toaster
01-19-2015, 10:13 PM
A Winter Soldier print, you say? I am interested...

Outlaw44
01-19-2015, 10:40 PM
I would like to make it officially known, that if there is ever a winter soldier commission - my money is ready

furycat
01-19-2015, 11:46 PM
I would like to make it officially known, that if there is ever a winter soldier commission - my money is ready

I also would like to make it officially known, that if there is ever a X MEN commission - my money is ready

Medusoid
01-20-2015, 12:12 AM
I would like to make it officially known, that if there is ever a winter soldier commission - my money is ready

I also would like to make it officially known, that if there is ever a X MEN commission - my money is ready

:thumbs2:

My money is ready if both of those are announced.

a4nam
01-20-2015, 12:35 AM
That's kinda what I thought. Cap is dead on much like Thanos in the GOTG print. I thought about a couple other poses but for where he's at in the print, that one is the best. I'm going to do a different version of him without the mask to see which I like better.

I'd like to see what you come up with for a maskless version as well. Something about his current face doesn't look like Chris Evans to me, kinda like Thor was Brolin before the touch ups that look good now.

Matches Malone
01-20-2015, 01:14 AM
I'd like to see what you come up with for a maskless version as well. Something about his current face doesn't look like Chris Evans to me, kinda like Thor was Brolin before the touch ups that look good now.

Perhaps an unmasked portrait in the variant.............

DRL
01-20-2015, 03:24 AM
Perhaps an unmasked portrait in the variant.............

:buttrock:

Demona
01-20-2015, 10:35 AM
I'd like to see what you come up with for a maskless version as well. Something about his current face doesn't look like Chris Evans to me, kinda like Thor was Brolin before the touch ups that look good now.

Ok I thought it was just me that thinks the portrait doesn't look like Evans.

Sam Jackson looks like Sam Jackson. Cap doesn't look like Chris Evans, I think he could use a little tweaking in the jaw line. Or at least a more defined chin.

I don't mind the stoic pose for Cap, I'll conform to the group on that one. I would like a more action shot for Black Widow however.

Other than that -- looking great!!

Hellboy
01-20-2015, 01:57 PM
That's kinda what I thought. Cap is dead on much like Thanos in the GOTG print. I thought about a couple other poses but for where he's at in the print, that one is the best. I'm going to do a different version of him without the mask to see which I like better.

Like Matches mentioned I think the problem with Cap just might be the suit, it did kinda suck. :laugh:

That said I understand the reasoning behind not going with a more dynamic pose but what about something along these lines? Gives a bit more life to the piece without changing the dimensions of the character.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i26/Hellboy1138/Forum%20-%20Art/SJPA_Captain_America_7.png

biglebowski9999
01-20-2015, 02:13 PM
That's an awesome pose! I wonder what effect the raised shield would have on Loki in the background, though?

Hellboy
01-20-2015, 03:23 PM
That's an awesome pose! I wonder what effect the raised shield would have on Loki in the background, though?

As long as the shield doesn't reach Loki's face I think it would look fine. Cap could always be dropped down a bit to accommodate this. Like Thanos Cap's body will be somewhat obscured by the title but given 'The Avengers' is one line compared to 'Guardians of the Galaxy' being two there is a little more room to play with before losing the character in the title. Just a thought.

FROBAY
01-20-2015, 03:55 PM
That's a great pic

Underdog07
01-20-2015, 06:30 PM
Done with the variant - goes well with the GoG


http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/underdog07_2006/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150120_163323_zpsc090e23c.jpg

Sigep756
01-20-2015, 06:41 PM
Looks great underdog! Now people will send in their requests to:

1) Change Hawkeye's eye color to white
2) Re-position Thor
3) Use a different pose for Cap
4) Change Iron Man's costume
5) Completely re-do Black Widow
6) Change the background color


I keed, I keed...

biglebowski9999
01-20-2015, 07:08 PM
Done with the variant - goes well with the GoG


http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/underdog07_2006/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150120_163323_zpsc090e23c.jpg


Your older stuff is garbage to be honest, but I really think you are hitting your stride now!

Underdog07
01-20-2015, 09:09 PM
Your older stuff is garbage to be honest, but I really think you are hitting your stride now!

Re avengers and GoG crayola variants -- One was drawn by a 5 year old and one by a 43 year old :happybirt2:

Demona
01-21-2015, 12:16 AM
Done with the variant - goes well with the GoG


http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/underdog07_2006/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150120_163323_zpsc090e23c.jpg

Love the addition of Huntress on the bottom right. What a great, fun curveball!

Nidgit
01-21-2015, 05:36 AM
I like it, but I have to ask. Why is the Hulk throwing pooh ?


Done with the variant - goes well with the GoG


http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/underdog07_2006/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150120_163323_zpsc090e23c.jpg

Nidgit
01-21-2015, 05:44 AM
Good idea about Cap and I like the pose Hellboy posted. Here's another one to throw into the mix.

http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae153/nidgit/nidgit131/imagejpg1_zpseefa962d.jpg (http://s967.photobucket.com/user/nidgit/media/nidgit131/imagejpg1_zpseefa962d.jpg.html)

Dan_Lebou
01-21-2015, 05:58 AM
Good idea about Cap and I like the pose Hellboy posted. Here's another one to throw into the mix.

http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae153/nidgit/nidgit131/imagejpg1_zpseefa962d.jpg (http://s967.photobucket.com/user/nidgit/media/nidgit131/imagejpg1_zpseefa962d.jpg.html)

I was thinking something like this too which I think would fit right in.

Underdog07
01-21-2015, 12:56 PM
Looks great underdog! Now people will send in their requests to:

1) Change Hawkeye's eye color to white
2) Re-position Thor
3) Use a different pose for Cap
4) Change Iron Man's costume
5) Completely re-do Black Widow
6) Change the background color


I keed, I keed...

I will work on these changes, but it will take me at least 2 minutes to totally recreate my masterpiece.

Underdog07
01-21-2015, 12:56 PM
Love the addition of Huntress on the bottom right. What a great, fun curveball!

Why I outta. . . .

Underdog07
01-21-2015, 12:57 PM
I like it, but I have to ask. Why is the Hulk throwing pooh ?

Isn't the better question "why aren't the other characters also throwing pooh?"

Luminous
01-21-2015, 02:34 PM
Like Matches mentioned I think the problem with Cap just might be the suit, it did kinda suck. :laugh:

That said I understand the reasoning behind not going with a more dynamic pose but what about something along these lines? Gives a bit more life to the piece without changing the dimensions of the character.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i26/Hellboy1138/Forum%20-%20Art/SJPA_Captain_America_7.png

Good idea about Cap and I like the pose Hellboy posted. Here's another one to throw into the mix.

http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae153/nidgit/nidgit131/imagejpg1_zpseefa962d.jpg (http://s967.photobucket.com/user/nidgit/media/nidgit131/imagejpg1_zpseefa962d.jpg.html)

This is exactly what I meant when I said he could look more dynamic. Good poses.

Underdog07
01-21-2015, 02:48 PM
Perhaps an unmasked portrait in the variant.............

Good idea but Fro previously stated that similar to GOG, the only difference will be color

FROBAY
01-21-2015, 03:20 PM
Good idea but Fro previously stated that similar to GOG, the only difference will be color

True but Alex could always make an executive decision.:)

thatkidwhodraws
01-27-2015, 12:11 AM
http://i.imgur.com/gOkrxxI.jpg
I realized that the machine on the tower balcony is what caused the portal so I'll have it there and put something else in the left sky area, like that worm ship thing

http://i.imgur.com/CWUonSf.jpg
Took a different pose for Widow like suggested. This works better since it's almost identical to Gamorra. Also, I think I'm going to mute the red's vibrance

http://i.imgur.com/wd76NZJ.jpg
More progress this week then I'll be in LA all weekend trying to make updates when I can.

Demona
01-27-2015, 09:32 AM
Scarlett Johansson doesn't even get listed on the poster, but RDJ is so good he is on there twice :P

thatkidwhodraws
01-27-2015, 12:50 PM
Scarlett Johansson doesn't even get listed on the poster, but RDJ is so good he is on there twice :P

Ha yeah she's gonna be on there. The extra RDJ is a placeholder until I add her.

Demona
01-27-2015, 12:57 PM
Ha yeah she's gonna be on there. The extra RDJ is a placeholder until I add her.

:) I knew you wouldn't forget her.

Does Tom Hiddleston make the cut too?

There are just a ton of actors in this one vs GOTG

a4nam
01-27-2015, 01:02 PM
Is there more work going into the Chitauri? It looks very busy.. can't tell whats going on with the outfit and there's no clear face

The new brown tower looks good

Sigep756
01-27-2015, 08:55 PM
Looks soooooo good

Underdog07
01-28-2015, 10:52 AM
I vote yes!

BOSCO
01-28-2015, 04:00 PM
Looks great so far Alex :thumbs2:

lbeechee
01-28-2015, 04:18 PM
Liking this, one question, is the tower gonna remain that close to IM's helmet? Kinds looks like it's coming out of his ear.

Hellboy
01-28-2015, 04:24 PM
Liking this, one question, is the tower gonna remain that close to IM's helmet? Kinds looks like it's coming out of his ear.

I've been thinking the same thing.

Would also love to get Alex's take on Cap's pose and whether he'd consider any of the suggestions made a few pages back?

Demona
01-28-2015, 04:56 PM
Liking this, one question, is the tower gonna remain that close to IM's helmet? Kinds looks like it's coming out of his ear.

I've been thinking the same thing.

Would also love to get Alex's take on Cap's pose and whether he'd consider any of the suggestions made a few pages back?

I posted the same concern about the tower too a few pages back.

It's a lot going on in that small space. Even more when you add the transporter

Luminous
01-28-2015, 05:24 PM
I've been thinking the same thing.

Would also love to get Alex's take on Cap's pose and whether he'd consider any of the suggestions made a few pages back?

Yeah, I'd like to hear his thoughts on both of those topics as well.

lbeechee
01-30-2015, 12:59 AM
I've been thinking the same thing.

Would also love to get Alex's take on Cap's pose and whether he'd consider any of the suggestions made a few pages back?

Ya, any one of those poses would look good. I personally like the one of him throwing the shield so it doesn't block Loki to much.

ALPH4T34M
01-30-2015, 07:41 PM
I like this throwing pose too.

dechirico7
01-30-2015, 08:59 PM
I just want to see Loki.





lmao

Dan_Lebou
02-03-2015, 05:36 PM
How about moving the tower to the corner of the image , where it could be moved down a little and then you could put the wormhole above it and use the space between it and Iron Man's helmet for the alien invasion starting to come out.

Dan_Lebou
02-03-2015, 05:38 PM
Oh, and could we have any images moved to the first post like we did with the GotG print so that they're all together and saves us having to trawl the pages to find them?

Thanks.

Hellboy
02-03-2015, 06:14 PM
Oh, and could we have any images moved to the first post like we did with the GotG print so that they're all together and saves us having to trawl the pages to find them?

Thanks.

I'll take care of that this evening.

thatkidwhodraws
02-03-2015, 11:12 PM
http://i.imgur.com/uIN8FP3.jpg

I'm still going to try a version of cap without the mask looking upward. It's too late in the game to change the positioning of cap and the tower. I'm going to try a few different color schemes to match the dark serious tone of the film. The vibrant colors of the GOTG poster aren't working for this piece. More soon.

FROBAY
02-03-2015, 11:17 PM
Will Loki have more face detail or is he finished?

thatkidwhodraws
02-03-2015, 11:40 PM
Will Loki have more face detail or is he finished?

lol yeah Loki's face isn't finished. I've drawn it a couple times but haven't nailed it down yet.

Matches Malone
02-03-2015, 11:42 PM
That is shaping up fantastic! Love the composition; I think it works even better here than in your phenomenal GotG piece.

Luminous
02-03-2015, 11:43 PM
That is shaping up fantastic! Love the composition; I think it works even better here than in your phenomenal GotG piece.

:stick:

Matches Malone
02-03-2015, 11:44 PM
I'm still going to try a version of cap without the mask looking upward. It's too late in the game to change the positioning of cap and the tower.

Cool. Looking up to the left? Offset all heads turned to the right or facing the GotG head on?

Matches Malone
02-03-2015, 11:45 PM
:stick:

Hey, hey, hey - just like my kids, I love them both for different reasons

Luminous
02-03-2015, 11:56 PM
Hey, hey, hey - just like my kids, I love them both for different reasons

You clearly have a favorite kid. :eplus2:

MONSTER
02-04-2015, 12:19 AM
This is shaping up nicely.

Nidgit
02-04-2015, 12:45 AM
Looking cool. If it's too late to change the position of Cap, can we maybe alter the angle of the shield a bit, just to make the position a little more natural. Kind of like this image:

http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae153/nidgit/nidgit135/Cap_zps5f238458.jpg (http://s967.photobucket.com/user/nidgit/media/nidgit135/Cap_zps5f238458.jpg.html)

Simplyrob
02-04-2015, 01:15 AM
You clearly have a favorite kid. :eplus2:

Oh geez. I hear this almost every day and I've seen my boys physically fight over it. I said whoever won was my favorite. :flash:

Bullseye
02-04-2015, 04:35 AM
Don't forget to include SJ name as you still have RDJ down twice.

pavehawk78
02-04-2015, 04:47 PM
Just curious if you plan on adding any detail to the wormhole Alex? Right now it just looks like a circle :)

Luminous
02-04-2015, 05:05 PM
http://i.imgur.com/uIN8FP3.jpg

I'm still going to try a version of cap without the mask looking upward. It's too late in the game to change the positioning of cap and the tower. I'm going to try a few different color schemes to match the dark serious tone of the film. The vibrant colors of the GOTG poster aren't working for this piece. More soon.

Hope you don't mind me asking, but why is it too late to change those two parts of the print? Is there a deadline?

I hope there isn't a rush to complete the print. I feel those two elements could really use some adjustment. The tower is simply way too close to Iron Man's head. The positioning just feels very forced. Not to mention the architecture looks like an extension of the armor (even similar colors). Not sure if it would look better or not, but what if Iron Man was in the foreground and the tower in the back (so the helmet overlaps the tower instead of vice versa)? I think I'd rather see it move a little to the left, but at least that way the first thing we'd notice is Iron Man instead of the tower.

As for Cap, I just think he could look more.... natural? Not sure if that is the best way to describe what bothers me about his pose. I suggested a pose that was a little more dynamic, but I can see how that could cause other problems in the area he is positioned in. However, I definitely think he could use a little more life. Also, I support Nidgit's suggestion of more foreshortening on the shield. The way he is currently holding it doesn't look natural either.

Just throwing these concerns out there as the updates come in. Would rather see the group voice any potential concerns as soon as possible rather than later.

Hellboy
02-04-2015, 05:45 PM
Hope you don't mind me asking, but why is it too late to change those two parts of the print? Is there a deadline?

No deadline on our end. Would be nice to have Alex elaborate on that statement as I'm not sure I understand what he means.

I hope there isn't a rush to complete the print. I feel those two elements could really use some adjustment. The tower is simply way too close to Iron Man's head. The positioning just feels very forced. Not to mention the architecture looks like an extension of the armor (even similar colors). Not sure if it would look better or not, but what if Iron Man was in the foreground and the tower in the back (so the helmet overlaps the tower instead of vice versa)? I think I'd rather see it move a little to the left, but at least that way the first thing we'd notice is Iron Man instead of the tower.

Good suggestions! The tower placement has been an area of concern for a few of us for some time now so this isn't a new development. It was first brought up about a month ago by Demona and other commission members followed suit with similar concerns to what was posted below...

Does the position of the tower bother anybody else? I think it might look better over to the left a little more since there is a lot of gold and red in the same area bc of Iron Man. A little space would help both images pop.

My understanding is that Alex wants to fill the blank space in the top left hand corner with the wormhole. While cool I don't think that should take precedence over giving the tower some separation from Iron Man so they don't blend together. I would like to get Alex's take on this?

As for Cap, I just think he could look more.... natural? Not sure if that is the best way to describe what bothers me about his pose. I suggested a pose that was a little more dynamic, but I can see how that could cause other problems in the area he is positioned in. However, I definitely think he could use a little more life. Also, I support Nidgit's suggestion of more foreshortening on the shield. The way he is currently holding it doesn't look natural either.

I agree, a simply shield adjustment as Nidgit proposed would go a long way in making Cap look better if Alex isn't up for a revamping of the pose itself.

pavehawk78
02-04-2015, 05:51 PM
I think the tower would look best to the left just a bit to have that separation from Iron man. Then you could still have the wormhole to the left but I think a serpent ship emerging from it would look cool.

I also agree on the shield adjustment Nidgit proposed. I think that would make him look less stiff.

Nidgit
02-04-2015, 05:57 PM
If there's a bit of a time issue with incorporating some of the proposed changes, I'm more than happy to wait it out if that's what Alex needs. I really want to see this one turn out every bit as good as his superb Guardians print :thumbs2:

Nidgit
02-04-2015, 06:01 PM
And if possible, could we look at giving Hawkeye a little more oomph (he looks a little lost in there).

Maybe adding his trademark shades would give him a bit more presence ?

http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae153/nidgit/nidgit136/Hawkeye_zps1ea1acf3.jpg (http://s967.photobucket.com/user/nidgit/media/nidgit136/Hawkeye_zps1ea1acf3.jpg.html)

Bullseye
02-04-2015, 06:01 PM
I agree that the tower location is off I personally don't think it needs to be that scale. Maybe reduce it down by 1/4 and relocate into the corner. Is that the moon or location of the wormhole?

I'd also like to see Hawkeye in a archer pose or at least see his bow if the archer pose throws the balance off.

I know people have concerns with Caps pose I'm okay with Nicks suggestion or the shield throwing one shown a few pages back.

I'd rather get the same quality as GoTG than rush this.

Bullseye
02-04-2015, 06:02 PM
And if possible, could we look at giving Hawkeye a little more oomph (he looks a little lost in there).

Maybe adding his trademark shades would give him a bit more presence ?

http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae153/nidgit/nidgit136/Hawkeye_zps1ea1acf3.jpg (http://s967.photobucket.com/user/nidgit/media/nidgit136/Hawkeye_zps1ea1acf3.jpg.html)

I like this too. We know he is an archer even without the bow showing.

a4nam
02-04-2015, 06:03 PM
I'm okay with the tower and shield as is. Still concerned about how the Chitauri looks like a mess in the face and clothing. The only distinguishable feature is the "helmet" its wearing.

Also waiting to see what colors the variant will be because the green and blue are used a lot more than in GotG. Loki's blue scepter blends into the background and all of the green with hulk and Loki's garments blend into the bottom. Guardians didn't have this issue to me since gamora and groot stood out more in the regular print.

Just my input.. but everything looks great so far and waiting for more progress.

MONSTER
02-04-2015, 06:10 PM
I like this too. We know he is an archer even without the bow showing.

Agreed. Hawkeye needs his bow.

FROBAY
02-04-2015, 08:16 PM
Agreed. Hawkeye needs his bow.

I agree, Hawkeye seems a bit plain, the side view is very bland. Draxx had his knives maybe the bow would liven it up. Thors face still seems off.

The tower would look good all the way to the left of the print (same size as it is) on the boarder with the wormhole between iron man and the tower.

Underdog07
02-04-2015, 09:04 PM
I think the tower would look best to the left just a bit to have that separation from Iron man. Then you could still have the wormhole to the left but I think a serpent ship emerging from it would look cool.

I also agree on the shield adjustment Nidgit proposed. I think that would make him look less stiff.

Heheheh you said wormhole Beavis hehehe

Matches Malone
02-04-2015, 11:15 PM
I agree, Hawkeye seems a bit plain, the side view is very bland. Draxx had his knives maybe the bow would liven it up. Thors face still seems off.
The tower would look good all the way to the left of the print (same size as it is) on the boarder with the wormhole between iron man and the tower.

Totally agree. Hawkeye always gets the shaft so in the interest of making this piece just as special as the GotG I too would like to see him sporting his bow ready to loose an arrow.

Matches Malone
02-04-2015, 11:22 PM
As for Cap, I just think he could look more.... natural? Not sure if that is the best way to describe what bothers me about his pose. I suggested a pose that was a little more dynamic, but I can see how that could cause other problems in the area he is positioned in. However, I definitely think he could use a little more life. Also, I support Nidgit's suggestion of more foreshortening on the shield. The way he is currently holding it doesn't look natural either.


I agree. Part of what I love about Alex's work versus the plethora of Avengers and GotG pieces out there is that it doesn't look like an assembly of well circulated marketing screen caps. As it stands Cap here looks like the artists rendition of a marketing image; well done, but not as inspired as what Alex has given us before.

Luminous
02-05-2015, 12:36 AM
The following images are what I had in mind for the tower. It could probably still shift a little to the left or right depending on how it affects Thor's head:

http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz156/Luminous9/Avengers%20modifications%201_zpsragk5oji.jpg

Here I attempted to give it a sense of depth by diffusing the tower. It wasn't executed perfectly (probably used the wrong tool), but hopefully you guys get the idea:

http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz156/Luminous9/Avengers%20modifications%202_zpsvmbrblax.jpg

MONSTER
02-05-2015, 12:39 AM
Wow that's such a huge improvement by moving the tower IMO. It gets my vote.

Hellboy
02-05-2015, 12:57 AM
Yeah, that looks great. Definitely a big improvement moving it away from Iron Man's head and diffusing it to give it more depth.

Medusoid
02-05-2015, 01:27 AM
It looks really good so far. I feel like a huge moron for passing on this. :doh!:

Underdog07
02-05-2015, 01:34 AM
I agree, Hawkeye seems a bit plain, the side view is very bland. Draxx had his knives maybe the bow would liven it up. Thors face still seems off.

The tower would look good all the way to the left of the print (same size as it is) on the boarder with the wormhole between iron man and the tower.

Totally agree. Hawkeye always gets the shaft so in the interest of making this piece just as special as the GotG I too would like to see him sporting his bow ready to loose an arrow.

Done with the variant - goes well with the GoG


http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/underdog07_2006/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150120_163323_zpsc090e23c.jpg
:thumbs2:
So you two are leaning more towards my variant which prominently features Hawkeye and his bow. :buttrock:

Matches Malone
02-05-2015, 01:48 AM
I like the proposed changes to Alex's print and really like the action conveyed in Underdogs.

chibioy
02-05-2015, 03:45 AM
Hi all,

Regarding the placement of the tower, It does look more balanced moved to the left, but Alex wanted to place the wormhole on that side so it might balance itself out.

I'm very curious to see Cap without the helmet. I actually prefer him showing hair as I'm not a big fan of him with the helmet in this case.

Just my 2 cents.

lbeechee
02-05-2015, 10:45 AM
I like that. By moving the tower and diffusing, it give the piece separation. I hope Alex considers these changes.

Underdog07
02-05-2015, 02:32 PM
I like the proposed changes to Alex's print and really like the action conveyed in Underdogs.

:buttrock:

candyrocket786
02-06-2015, 06:00 PM
So is Hiddleston going to be added to the credits list?

Demona
02-07-2015, 12:26 AM
In total agreement with the tower move.

Not a big fan of the diffusion. Maybe diffuse the wormhole when it's done.



The following images are what I had in mind for the tower. It could probably still shift a little to the left or right depending on how it affects Thor's head:

http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz156/Luminous9/Avengers%20modifications%201_zpsragk5oji.jpg

Here I attempted to give it a sense of depth by diffusing the tower. It wasn't executed perfectly (probably used the wrong tool), but hopefully you guys get the idea:

http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz156/Luminous9/Avengers%20modifications%202_zpsvmbrblax.jpg

Demona
02-07-2015, 10:20 AM
Oh and I'm in the camp of take whatever time you need, Alex. If other engagements came up please don't feel pressured to zoom thru this poster.

I'm extra partial since I didn't do GOTG and would like my poster to look better than that one :p

Matches Malone
02-07-2015, 12:54 PM
So is Hiddleston going to be added to the credits list?

Didn't catch that but Hiddleston defiantly needs to be added.

SashaMitchell
02-07-2015, 04:25 PM
Didn't catch that but Hiddleston defiantly needs to be added.

Couldn't he just obediently be added?

Matches Malone
02-07-2015, 07:48 PM
Couldn't he just obediently be added?

Lol - "definitely" subjected to an auto correct fail there. :laugh:

thatkidwhodraws
02-08-2015, 02:56 PM
Hey everyone sorry for radio silence, I'm getting back to the grind after an industry seminar in LA. Got to talk to some concept artists who worked on this film, Guardians, and X-men. Cool stuff!

So coming back to this print with a fresh eye and reading comments; I agree the tower looks better separated from Thor. It took some work but after Photoshop surgery it's transplanted to the left. Although I don't mind the example, I know a lot of artists who are irked if you chop their shop. It would fit the comp better to flip it horizontally but as I understand it the "A" is only on that side of the tower, correct? This also breaks up the sky background into 3 sections the left, center, and right neither of which are big enough areas to fit detailed work into. Maybe some faded towers, rubble, etc we'll see. Here's the final result

http://i.imgur.com/srbExsm.jpg

I've also changed the color of the Shield ship to blue so it breaks up all the grey at the bottom left of the sheet. Now I'm going to see about adding shades to Hawkeye and placing his bow over Widow. The credits are on a mock layer and none of it is finalized into the artwork, changes will be made. And as always, these colors are not final.

I'm still going to try Cap without the helmet but to change his pose this late into production isn't a possibility. A: I prefer Cap marching forward leading the cast and B: It is not an issue of time. It is an issue of what my time is worth. In the case of a client illustration this would be considered a major change after approved drafts with billable hours added to the final invoice. When you're this far into production for screenprint the layers are intricately layered and their placement is flattened. It's not as easy as picking up this guy and moving him here or rearranging on the fly. The tower was an afternoon's work, for the most part it was isolated aside from pulling it off Iron Man and Thor. Cap is all up in that ---- behind the title, in front of Loki and Fury. To change Cap would be to change the lower half of the print. I can whip up a small res chop job, sure, but to make changes to final print-ready art like this is a whole nother thang. :dork:

thatkidwhodraws
02-08-2015, 04:26 PM
warmer

http://i.imgur.com/3yQeae2.jpg

ALPH4T34M
02-08-2015, 05:26 PM
Hawkeye looks much better, are you still able to change the angle of Caps shield?

Hellboy
02-08-2015, 05:47 PM
RE: The Tower. Given the A was only present after the STARK Tower insignia was damaged during the events that transpired in 'The Avengers' shouldn't it show some damage around what's left of the STARK insignia or just be "STARK" rather than what appears to be a purposefully constructed "A?"

Also figured I'd mention that the tower has more of an angled downslope to the right side of it.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i26/Hellboy1138/Forum%20-%20Art/file-180.png

Nidgit
02-08-2015, 10:35 PM
Yeah. Digging those changes to Hawkeye thanks Alex :thumbs2:

DRL
02-09-2015, 01:13 AM
Loving the updated Hawkeye

Matches Malone
02-09-2015, 02:48 AM
I like the addition of the bow and the optics of the overlapping imagery.

Underdog07
02-09-2015, 09:22 AM
Did you know that SJ wore an arrow necklace throughout the Avengers movie

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/underdog07_2006/image.jpg1_zps8vzto5n5.jpg

FROBAY
02-09-2015, 10:25 AM
Is that an arrow. LOL


I never caught that.

Demona
02-09-2015, 11:37 AM
Digging the challenges, Alex! Hawkeye looks so good.

pavehawk78
02-09-2015, 06:08 PM
Did you know that SJ wore an arrow necklace throughout the Avengers movie

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/underdog07_2006/image.jpg1_zps8vzto5n5.jpg

Wasn't that in The Winter Soldier?

Underdog07
02-09-2015, 08:03 PM
Wasn't that in The Winter Soldier?

Yeah, you are correct. It was an Easter Egg in WS.

thatkidwhodraws
02-09-2015, 08:13 PM
Still fleshing Loki out

http://i.imgur.com/tsWoSIv.jpg

Bullseye
02-09-2015, 08:20 PM
Looking good.

Matches Malone
02-09-2015, 08:35 PM
Loki looks like he will have a healthy dose of "menacing" which is awesome :D

Nidgit
02-09-2015, 08:38 PM
Loki's looking awesome :buttrock:

thatkidwhodraws
02-09-2015, 09:08 PM
You guys it's not too late to go with this pose just say the word
http://i.imgur.com/lYsk1Xs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7QMfNlS.jpg

SashaMitchell
02-09-2015, 09:32 PM
Alex, please ensure at least one of Loki's nipples gets glow in the dark treatment.