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GrumpyBear
01-01-2015, 11:07 AM
"Happy new year 2015.

Some wip on Daredevil 1/4 scale.....the Base is still under construction ...

Thanks to Mufizal"

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The Mule
01-01-2015, 11:16 AM
Really dig the work on the suit so far.
Head sculpt looks good, pose too.
Need to wait for more details of the base.
Curious to see how the various shades of red are used all over the suit.

adee
01-01-2015, 11:17 AM
I already like it more than the SS piece.

endless1
01-01-2015, 11:18 AM
Looking better than the sideshow piece, just not crazy about the base.
The scales of justice would be a nice base

Mamba
01-01-2015, 11:21 AM
Noiceeeee....

Shadowfax
01-01-2015, 11:23 AM
SOLD

Bmutha
01-01-2015, 11:23 AM
Want.

khrisc
01-01-2015, 11:28 AM
great work here!

JP Sarri
01-01-2015, 11:31 AM
I prefer the classic suit design over the modern one but this is a gorgeous rendering indeed. Great job!!

GrumpyBear
01-01-2015, 11:34 AM
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Bullseye
01-01-2015, 12:02 PM
This maybe my first XM piece. My collection is in need of DD. Hopefully a Bullseye to go with this.

Kitsune
01-01-2015, 12:03 PM
This DD must be mineeee !!!!
:P

loricstone
01-01-2015, 12:14 PM
Man, this is such a dynamic fantastic pose for DD. Love how they are pushing the envelope on bases and poses.

Definite must buy.....DEFINITE!!!!:buttrock:

nexus
01-01-2015, 12:29 PM
Overall it looks very cool. I'm not crazy about the pants. Still prefer the stealth-style bodysuit vs. the separate tactical pants.it just loses that link to the overall classic design. The top looks fantastic, so not sure why that texture and design couldn't just be continued throughout as a bodysuit. I'm cool with the boots, gloves, belt, etc. but the pants might end up being a deal breaker for me. if the texture is changed to match the top, and he has a more superheroic look I'm in. Will just have to wait and see.

AlizAbef
01-01-2015, 12:34 PM
Is this a New 52 Daredevil? (I'm kidding) The costume looks pretty cool. Not what I'm used to seeing, but cool nonetheless. I like more of the classic costume, but this one is alright. The pose is great....reminds me of a stalking Batman when I look at it.

FROBAY
01-01-2015, 12:36 PM
The figure looks good, not crazy about the base. Seems the bases are becoming plain lately.

madmanny
01-01-2015, 12:39 PM
It's good, just not sold on the shoulder pads.

The Mule
01-01-2015, 12:46 PM
The figure looks good, not crazy about the base. Seems the bases are becoming plain lately.

On the subject - I think that the base is just a bunch of polygons right now.
Actually, thinking about it, the base could turn out awesome.

It could be a damaged external rooftop arch of a gothic cathedral. They could add moss and vines do give some detail, plus that circle on the top of the base can be filled by an old style victorian clock, or a rose window.

Would fit A LOT with DD's theme and comic covers, while adding a ton of details.

Also, I'm wondering if they're going to make him with the double display option, like Hawkeye. The base seems to be engineered to allow to place him like in the pics or on a higher ground. Having the base damaged/ruined would help cover the peg holes.

Wishful thinking btw.

risingstar
01-01-2015, 12:50 PM
I like it. Anyone know the reference for the costume?

DynamicMenace
01-01-2015, 12:52 PM
this does look very nice, i like everything about it. if i was a die hard DD fan i would want to pick this one up. no matter what the price is.
but my one and only critique would be that the head is just a bit too small. should be a just a little bit bigger.

actionjackson83
01-01-2015, 01:01 PM
Love these updated costume designs that XM does. They're subtle and give their heroes a real life element to them. Also differentiates their statues from other companies and really shows of the artist's creativity. This is a must buy for me as I don't own any 1/4 Daredevil and ss let me down with their unicycle riding Daredevil.

Remember Me?
01-01-2015, 01:12 PM
I expect DD to be in a more acrobatic pose (Similar to the one standing on one hand), but this will do too.

AlizAbef
01-01-2015, 01:15 PM
Love these updated costume designs that XM does. They're subtle and give their heroes a real life element to them. Also differentiates their statues from other companies and really shows of the artist's creativity. This is a must buy for me as I don't own any 1/4 Daredevil and ss let me down with their unicycle riding Daredevil.

I'm kinda on the opposite side. I'm beginning to realize that XM is making a lot of heroes and villains that incorporate quite a few straps, buckles, and zippers into the sculpts. I remember how much I liked it when Magneto was unveiled, but now they seem to be doing it with every character they come out with, minus a few, and I'm starting to lose interest.

It's like Magneto, Wolverine, Daredevil, Antman, and Hawkeye all had their suits made and tailored at the same shop, or had them developed by the same manufacturer that makes U.S. military gear and equipment.

It's almost as if this is XM's version of a Marvel New 52 or something. These renditions are almost becoming too modern for my liking anymore. I know everyone dislikes SS's Daredevil for reasons already discussed, but at least the classic/realistic costume didn't go away.

I'm very surprised XM's Hawkeye didn't have the whole strap and buckle thing done to his boots. Or Iron Man with metal clasps around his boots and gauntlets. Anyway, that's just how I feel about this new modern look they're going for.

Viper245
01-01-2015, 01:15 PM
No 1/4 scale DD in the collection yet so this is welcome news. I like what XM is dishing out on this piece so far so this just might be a buy for me. Anxiously awaiting more updates on this piece.

actionjackson83
01-01-2015, 01:17 PM
I'm kinda on the opposite side. I'm beginning to realize that XM is making a lot of heroes and villains that incorporate quite a few straps, buckles, and zippers into the sculpts. I remember how much I liked it when Magneto was unveiled, but now they seem to be doing it with every character they come out with, minus a few, and I'm starting to lose interest.

It's like Magneto, Wolverine, Daredevil, Antman, and Hawkeye all had their suits made and tailored at the same shop, or had them developed by the same manufacturer that makes U.S. military gear and equipment.

It's almost as if this is XM's version of a Marvel New 52 or something. These renditions are almost becoming too modern for my liking anymore. I know everyone dislikes SS's Daredevil for reasons already discussed, but at least the classic/realistic costume didn't go away.

I'm very surprised XM's Hawkeye didn't have the whole strap and buckle thing done to his boots. Or Iron Man with metal clasps around his boots and gauntlets. Anyway, that's just how I feel about this new modern look they're going for.


That's cool, I respect your opinion and we all have our different tastes. I just find the modernized/militarized designs as to me they suit my characters more than classic onsies spandex designs. I also love costume designing and seeing how character's evolve over time in their costume designs so that's why I'm more appreciative of these efforts by the sculptors and art direction.

majestic1
01-01-2015, 01:25 PM
Not crazy about all the extras on his costume like the shoulder and shin pads, also the straps around his waist seem unnecessary, he typically wears his skin tight costume under his regular clothes so it shouldn't be too bulky, it actually looks more like armored Daredevil.

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr221/IronLungs31/DaredevilArmored2.jpg (http://s486.photobucket.com/user/IronLungs31/media/DaredevilArmored2.jpg.html)


The billy clubs look great though, no chopsticks for this version :thumbs2:

grphyx1
01-01-2015, 01:39 PM
They were all designed by Edna Mode:)

I'm kinda on the opposite side. I'm beginning to realize that XM is making a lot of heroes and villains that incorporate quite a few straps, buckles, and zippers into the sculpts. I remember how much I liked it when Magneto was unveiled, but now they seem to be doing it with every character they come out with, minus a few, and I'm starting to lose interest.

It's like Magneto, Wolverine, Daredevil, Antman, and Hawkeye all had their suits made and tailored at the same shop, or had them developed by the same manufacturer that makes U.S. military gear and equipment.

It's almost as if this is XM's version of a Marvel New 52 or something. These renditions are almost becoming too modern for my liking anymore. I know everyone dislikes SS's Daredevil for reasons already discussed, but at least the classic/realistic costume didn't go away.

I'm very surprised XM's Hawkeye didn't have the whole strap and buckle thing done to his boots. Or Iron Man with metal clasps around his boots and gauntlets. Anyway, that's just how I feel about this new modern look they're going for.

AlizAbef
01-01-2015, 01:47 PM
They were all designed by Edna Mode:)

Well then that dude must own furniture in his house that looks like this:

http://www.allseasonshomeimprovement.com/wp-content/uploads/19f82__Modern-living-room-with-natural-sofa-inspired-by-pine-trees.jpg

http://www.allofftopic.com/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=134

The Mule
01-01-2015, 01:51 PM
I'm in the camp of those who prefer the modern take on the costumes.
Imho, superheroes exist (and make sense) only as a reflection of our society, and this includes their appearance. It doesn't seem weird to me that they have similar features - after all, it doesn't seem weird either that all classic costumes were spandex suits with panties slapped on them :D

I also think that most of these details won't be as noticeable once the statue is painted. I've found this artwork, which has a lot of similarities with this suit, and I really love how all the details blend naturally.

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/160/1/8/daredevil_by_uncannyknack-d68e5v0.jpg

gomur
01-01-2015, 01:54 PM
I love everything from the waist up, but the cargo pants lower torso looks like it was pulled from a different character.

Then again... he is a blind superhero. We should cut him some slack.

JP Sarri
01-01-2015, 01:58 PM
I love everything from the waist up, but the cargo pants lower torso looks like it was pulled from a different character.

Then again... he is a blind superhero. We should cut him some slack.

:laugh:

JP Sarri
01-01-2015, 02:00 PM
Not crazy about all the extras on his costume like the shoulder and shin pads, also the straps around his waist seem unnecessary, he typically wears his skin tight costume under his regular clothes so it shouldn't be too bulky, it actually looks more like armored Daredevil.

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr221/IronLungs31/DaredevilArmored2.jpg (http://s486.photobucket.com/user/IronLungs31/media/DaredevilArmored2.jpg.html)


The billy clubs look great though, no chopsticks for this version :thumbs2:

Not my favorite version either.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y539/jpsarri/Covers%20and%20prints/51D5E88E-E1FC-4345-8455-4E2355336ACD_zpsafdovshh.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/jpsarri/media/Covers%20and%20prints/51D5E88E-E1FC-4345-8455-4E2355336ACD_zpsafdovshh.jpg.html)

A R E S
01-01-2015, 02:03 PM
Costume looks really good. I would prefer making the fighting sticks a bit larger imho.

The base i don't know. I don't like that the bases are getting more and more plain. Hope that too many statues don't lead to plain, simple bases. With XM i would have hoped for something more like this: (especially the flow of the fighting sticks and the strong position, the wip seems to have a mixed feeling, like is he waiting for his opponent, or is he sliding downwards, or is he about to leap forward?)

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/14700000/Daredevil-marvel-comics-14713820-800-580.jpg

majestic1
01-01-2015, 02:10 PM
I think his fighting sticks look spot on, any thicker and they start to look like metal pipes, these need to double as a blind mans walking cane.

http://i62.tinypic.com/14vlptu.jpg

actionjackson83
01-01-2015, 02:15 PM
The base isn't even finished guys, look closer it's an abstraction of polygons still.

jye318
01-01-2015, 02:19 PM
Yea and they always change the base anyways, it doesnr matter now, the body looks real good, both ss one are not that perfect imo

SONICobra
01-01-2015, 02:21 PM
HOLY #%$&ING SH$= THAT LOOKS INCREDIBLE!!!!!

yes XM that's what im talking about! :buttrock: so bought

xm's modern quasi realistic take on costumes is one of the things I like best about them, this is no exception. it looks modern and classic all at once - just awesome, incredible sculpt. that guy is freakin talented I checked out some of his other work on his youtube channel, awesome stuff

A R E S
01-01-2015, 02:30 PM
[QUOTE=majestic1;4961545]I think his fighting sticks look spot on, any thicker and they start to look like metal pipes, these need to double as a blind mans walking cane.

No i didn't mean thicker, but longer, like the clubs on the gentle giant mini bust.

But the bases are the thing to worry about lately with XM. Thanos base is only good considering what the alternative was, but i liked the first skull base on the convention the best. Movie Iron Man Mark VII base change aka the Iron Surfer, hm no. Hope they can create more bases like magneto and phoenix. Something special. When paying that much money, the base also has to have a wow effect.

Thor57
01-01-2015, 02:38 PM
Don't care for the loose fitting pants. Love the rest.

nexus
01-01-2015, 02:42 PM
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/160/1/8/daredevil_by_uncannyknack-d68e5v0.jpg

Now see, this is more of what I'm looking for. Stealth suit, dynamic pose. I don't have a problem with some of the straps and pads, but it's getting overboard. Also Daredevil is an acrobat--it's at the heart of his design and powers. So I like the kineticism of this type of a pose. And no I'm not saying he should be falling, leaping or whatever.

Bullseye
01-01-2015, 02:48 PM
Don't care for the loose fitting pants. Love the rest.

Yeah that doesn't look right. Hopefully that's changed.

AC_808
01-01-2015, 03:38 PM
"Happy new year 2015.

Some wip on Daredevil 1/4 scale.....the Base is still under construction ...

Thanks to Mufizal"

FB XM

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I disagree ...this is not a simple base. This looks like the roof of a church or cathedral. Once the details are added in its going to look awesome. Especially if that circle on the base turns out to be a stainglass window. A simple base is a flat "DD" insignia base or an "A" base.

I do agree however that the loose pants need to go. DD's pants need to be form fitting similar to XM Mags.

Also, I hope that XM will improve DD's musculature a bit. DD is like Batman ...he pushed himself to the highest human physical peak. DD should have more muscle definition and a bit more muscle mass. Right now his arms, chest, abs and legs are lacking just a bit.

I've been waiting for this XM DD ...as well as Elektra. I like what I see so far ...

Bullseye
01-01-2015, 04:01 PM
The base appears to be a flying buttress. Once complete it will look amazing.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j12/statueforum/2E19722D-0B4A-4095-B4C7-77B2DE1AA224_zpsaszfdtgj.jpg (http://s76.photobucket.com/user/statueforum/media/2E19722D-0B4A-4095-B4C7-77B2DE1AA224_zpsaszfdtgj.jpg.html)

Bullseye
01-01-2015, 04:05 PM
More of the outer wall
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j12/statueforum/E70413EC-82A1-4155-98D8-63E1EABF71D5_zpseezvoxrt.jpg (http://s76.photobucket.com/user/statueforum/media/E70413EC-82A1-4155-98D8-63E1EABF71D5_zpseezvoxrt.jpg.html)

The Mule
01-01-2015, 04:11 PM
The base appears to be a flying buttress. Once complete it will look amazing.


So that's how's called.
Now I feel bad for calling it "external rooftop arch of a gothic cathedral".

JP Sarri
01-01-2015, 04:28 PM
Good eye, Bullseye. :thumbs2:

AC_808
01-01-2015, 04:37 PM
So that's how's called.
Now I feel bad for calling it "external rooftop arch of a gothic cathedral".

HaHa ...you and me both. I had the image in my mind, but I forgot what it was called.

Right on target, Bullseye!

The Mule
01-01-2015, 04:42 PM
Glad we agree they're doing the cathedral flying thing.
Now let's agree that on the top of the base, in the circular space, they'll put either an old style clock or (more probably) a rose window. It would be killer if they made it like a true rose window. All those colors.

MO42
01-01-2015, 04:46 PM
not really into the modernizing of the costumes. Has a Movie Captain America vibe to it.

acme1982
01-01-2015, 04:57 PM
I don`t see the pants so bad. I would expect the application of paint .

Bmutha
01-01-2015, 04:59 PM
WANT!!!!

Lockdown
01-01-2015, 05:07 PM
love it! Just loose the cargo pants and have his pants more tight fitting with similar design as the top part. Put a demon gargoyle statue or what ever you call those things on the bottom of his feet -flying buttress and colour stained glass in that hole above his head. The rest looks awesome.

Bowen or Bust
01-01-2015, 05:15 PM
I'm in the camp of those who prefer the modern take on the costumes.
Imho, superheroes exist (and make sense) only as a reflection of our society, and this includes their appearance. It doesn't seem weird to me that they have similar features - after all, it doesn't seem weird either that all classic costumes were spandex suits with panties slapped on them :D

I also think that most of these details won't be as noticeable once the statue is painted. I've found this artwork, which has a lot of similarities with this suit, and I really love how all the details blend naturally.

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/160/1/8/daredevil_by_uncannyknack-d68e5v0.jpg

I would love a 1/4 scale DD statue just like in that pic !! :eek:

Eky
01-01-2015, 06:05 PM
So that's how's called.
Now I feel bad for calling it "external rooftop arch of a gothic cathedral".

Arc-boutant arco rampante from Notre Dame de Paris

gg BullsEYE

I would love a 1/4 scale DD statue just like in that pic !! :eek:

So do i :drooling:

Vracula
01-01-2015, 06:35 PM
I already like it more than the SS piece.

Miles ahead.

SONICobra
01-01-2015, 06:57 PM
not really into the modernizing of the costumes. Has a Movie Captain America vibe to it.

as with anything I guess its personal taste. personally I LOVE it, its what I would hope a movie costume would look like. I generally like costumes the way theyre portrayed in comics for the, but lets be realistic here - most would look ridiculous in a real world application for the most part so I appreciate the realistic take on it

cant wait to see more :drooling::buttrock:

Thor57
01-01-2015, 07:29 PM
Yeah, but I'm not looking for what real world or movie versions might look like. If that were the case, Thor would be head to toe in either chainmail armor or all furs. I'm looking for the comic interpretations, like him, Cap, Black Widow and to a lesser extent Hawkeye.

SONICobra
01-01-2015, 07:40 PM
yeah I guess what I meant is that its a good mix of comic / movie style which I like, but I totally get where you and others are coming from. I could go either way on it, I like the pants as is but even if they tightened them up like in the above pic I think it would look cool too

mufizal
01-01-2015, 07:44 PM
The base appears to be a flying buttress. Once complete it will look amazing.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j12/statueforum/2E19722D-0B4A-4095-B4C7-77B2DE1AA224_zpsaszfdtgj.jpg (http://s76.photobucket.com/user/statueforum/media/2E19722D-0B4A-4095-B4C7-77B2DE1AA224_zpsaszfdtgj.jpg.html)

Good eye my man!


Mufizal

XMAN
01-01-2015, 07:46 PM
I prefer the classic suit design over the modern one but this is a gorgeous rendering indeed. Great job!!

totally agree....:thumbs2:

Spidey976
01-01-2015, 11:50 PM
IMHO this is one of XMs best sculpts, and i think it will be damn hard to get. It just outshines the other 1/4 DDs

xploited
01-02-2015, 12:00 AM
I passed on the SS statue for the same reasons many others did. This looks fantastic, I'm just not sure how I feel about the added detail.

Spidey976
01-02-2015, 12:15 AM
I passed on the SS statue for the same reasons many others did. This looks fantastic, I'm just not sure how I feel about the added detail.

When this gets painted I think a lot of people will be losing their ---- over it, and the added detail will make it she even brighter IMHO.

toe
01-02-2015, 12:19 AM
Love the added elements n details to the costume. Keep it up. Buy for me. My first DD in my collection n im not even a fan.

Matches Malone
01-02-2015, 02:19 AM
This DD is all kinds of intense. Shaping up to be a fantastic piece.

Peedi
01-02-2015, 03:30 AM
Tempting...

Like Cable and Quicksilver, this will get tweaked. XM already said on facebook the base isn't final. I bet the costume will get refinements.

I think some adjustments like...
1. the pants and belts toning down
2. the head-to-body size proportioned better, and
3. some overall streamlining of the patterns/lines/sections in the costume
...would make this even better.

acme1982
01-02-2015, 03:48 AM
For me the best DD made.

ambasah
01-02-2015, 06:28 AM
I guess I am the only one disappointed by the pose. I was hoping for a more dynamic action pose that demonstrated his abilities. I will still buy it but I think they could have given us more.

Bobfrog
01-02-2015, 06:52 AM
I guess I am the only one disappointed by the pose. I was hoping for a more dynamic action pose that demonstrated his abilities. I will still buy it but I think they could have given us more.

no, you're not alone. I think many wish in some way that we'll one day get a DD something akin to the spidey PF pose just teased by SS.

That side I think that Spidey976 is right. Once coloured this will look awesome.

But yeah I do agree that he needs to be much more streamlined. The bagginess would suit a character like captain america but DD and spidey are flipping around, freefalling, jumping in and out of tight spaces...anything baggy would be done away with for fear (no pun intended) of it catching and to maximise movement through the air.

Congrats mufizal, great work as expected.

A R E S
01-02-2015, 10:25 AM
i would continue the design of the upper body on the lower half. The material feels right and would look awesome imho.

ScootS
01-02-2015, 10:46 AM
i would continue the design of the upper body on the lower half. The material feels right and would look awesome imho.

+1 :)

Would also suggest losing some of the straps/buckles around lower torso tho...

adee
01-02-2015, 10:47 AM
I agree, the baggy cargo pants is the only thing I dislike. Make them form fitting like the upper body and I think he'd be perfect.

grphyx1
01-02-2015, 10:55 AM
head is too small. from waist down the design is overdone

JP Sarri
01-02-2015, 11:14 AM
head is too small. from waist down the design is overdone

I disagree. It is a matter of personal view and taste.

grphyx1
01-02-2015, 11:22 AM
I think it's funny you say that considering your avatar is the sleeker DD design. and if its a matter of personal view and taste you cannot disagree with my personal view and taste. I think the head is anatomically too small and from the waist down (for this character) is overdone.

I disagree. It is a matter of personal view and taste.

JP Sarri
01-02-2015, 11:25 AM
I guess I am the only one disappointed by the pose. I was hoping for a more dynamic action pose that demonstrated his abilities. I will still buy it but I think they could have given us more.

no, you're not alone. I think many wish in some way that we'll one day get a DD something akin to the spidey PF pose just teased by SS.

That side I think that Spidey976 is right. Once coloured this will look awesome.

But yeah I do agree that he needs to be much more streamlined. The bagginess would suit a character like captain america but DD and spidey are flipping around, freefalling, jumping in and out of tight spaces...anything baggy would be done away with for fear (no pun intended) of it catching and to maximise movement through the air.

Congrats mufizal, great work as expected.

I am not. We cannot forget that artistic design and practical engineeing do not always go hand in hand. We still haven't seen the final sample of SS Spidey so there are a lot of unanswered questions about that piece and how the Sideshow Artistic team is planning to bringing the design to final fruition.

Let's not forget that the bigger the size and the scale of a piece, the heavier it is. It will be fair to assume that the sideshow piece will be hollow and light like a feather to contrarest Gravity and any leaning issues. I am not sure if I want that. I rather have a well balance piece with enough and proper weight at the base. But they might use PVC on the figure altogether so we do not know.

JP Sarri
01-02-2015, 11:26 AM
I think it's funny you say that considering your avatar is the sleeker DD design. and if its a matter of personal view and taste you cannot disagree with my personal view and taste. I think the head is anatomically too small and from the waist down (for this character) is overdone.

I find it funny that you think I am wrong and you are right. We can agree to disagree.

The Mule
01-02-2015, 11:29 AM
Imho, 99% of the "busy/overdone" issue is that we've seen a non colored preliminary sculpt. In the pic I posted, DD has MORE details and more straps than in the sculpt, and it's not at all so noticeable.
Once we see the painted prototype, unless they somehow screw up the paint app, I think that all the extra details will blend just fine.

grphyx1
01-02-2015, 11:31 AM
you need to re-read the posts. YOU disagreed with my view, I have said nothing about YOUR point of view. I said "I think...."

I find it funny that you think I am wrong and you are right. We can agree to disagree.

JP Sarri
01-02-2015, 11:34 AM
you need to re-read the posts. YOU disagreed with my view, I have said nothing about YOUR point of view. I said "I think...."

I don't need to. I know what you meant. Move on.

ambasah
01-02-2015, 11:37 AM
I am not. We cannot forget that artistic design and practical engineeing do not always go hand in hand. We still haven't seen the final sample of SS Spidey so there are a lot of unanswered questions about that piece and how the Sideshow Artistic team is planning to bringing the design to final fruition.

Let's not forget that the bigger the size and the scale of a piece, the heavier it is. It will be fair to assume that the sideshow piece will be hollow and light like a feather to contrarest Gravity and any leaning issues. I am not sure if I want that. I rather have a well balance piece with enough and proper weight at the base. But they might use PVC on the figure altogether so we do not know.

A more "action" pose can be achieved without sacrificing weight. I have a 1/4 scale custom DD that is a perfect example.

I am not saying it needs to be as extreme as the upcoming SS spidey, but what they have given us is almost a museum pose.

Bmutha
01-02-2015, 11:38 AM
I thought about this piece some more overnight aaaaaaannnnddd...

WANT!

JP Sarri
01-02-2015, 11:40 AM
A more "action" pose can be achieved without sacrificing weight. I have a 1/4 scale custom DD that is a perfect example.

I am not saying it needs to be as extreme as the upcoming SS spidey, but what they have given us is almost a museum pose.

I don't doubt that it is possible but my experience tells me to be very cautious. I don't want a shattered piece in my collection due to weight issues (too heavy or too light).

Final note: I would not considered this a museum but a semi-action pose.

acme1982
01-02-2015, 11:47 AM
A more "action" pose can be achieved without sacrificing weight. I have a 1/4 scale custom DD that is a perfect example.

I am not saying it needs to be as extreme as the upcoming SS spidey, but what they have given us is almost a museum pose.

For you this statue has a museum pose? He is down a Cathedral, I think that this pose is perfect for DD.

Remember Me?
01-02-2015, 12:50 PM
A more "action" pose can be achieved without sacrificing weight. I have a 1/4 scale custom DD that is a perfect example.

I am not saying it needs to be as extreme as the upcoming SS spidey, but what they have given us is almost a museum pose.

I did express my disappointment, but this is not museum pose either. I always prefer a DD statue that's not upright...would have prefer him holding himself up with one hand and the other tossing his billy club. Overall, I am ok with this pose too (Anything is better than SS' version). Please don't make him too heavy...cause shipping alone is killing me!!

BTW: please make sure thetr is a Gargoyle on the base!!!

The Mule
01-02-2015, 12:57 PM
I did express my disappointment, but this is not museum pose either. I always prefer a DD statue that's not upright...would have prefer him holding himself up with one hand and the other tossing his billy club. Overall, I am ok with this pose too (Anything is better than SS' version). Please don't make him too heavy...cause shipping alone is killing me!!

BTW: please make sure thetr is a Gargoyle on the base!!!

Weight doesn't really matter in shipping, it's more the box size that determines the price. Hulk could be 5-10kg lighter or heavier, and shipping wouldn't change :)

nexus
01-02-2015, 01:13 PM
I may grab the Sideshow for the time being. I hate the pose on it, but it's only $379 and can always serve as a placeholder until the XM is finalized. I've got a month or two to decide since it doesn't come out until March, barring delays which are likely considering it's Sideshow.

actionjackson83
01-02-2015, 01:32 PM
Why even bother wasting the money which could better be used for a deposit when pre-ordering this?

Shadowfax
01-02-2015, 01:52 PM
Why even bother wasting the money which could better be used for a deposit when pre-ordering this?
Agreed
I'm going to slap down a deposit on this asap

Ohrai_Fan
01-02-2015, 01:57 PM
https://scontent-b-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10906222_1488368604717167_6234021759184145200_n.jpg?oh=50efe15f0e8a6d0bf15900def3814bb5&oe=54FBBEB1



Spectacular to the point where, despite my not being a big fan of the character, I would PO day 1.

Remember Me?
01-02-2015, 02:00 PM
Suggestion:

1. Change of head (Unmasked)
2. Can we get a smiling (Smirk) portrait instead?

The Mule
01-02-2015, 02:03 PM
3. steel wires for the sticks
4. double display option like Hawkeye, with him moved above :D

THECLOWN KNIGHT
01-02-2015, 02:47 PM
I don't like the design of the suit, too 'busy' for me.

loricstone
01-02-2015, 03:03 PM
I have been noticing how everyone is passing judgement and making suggestions for changes when they haven't even seen a finished color mock up.

How the hell is that possible? Can we like....wait until we see the finished mock up first? Geez!:confused:

I have been noticing this on every single piece XM shows (and they even tell us this is WIP with early base). I just don't get it. Let the artists do the work first....then all the want to be so called perfectionist chime in afterwards.

Just an observation.

grphyx1
01-02-2015, 03:08 PM
Then they may as well not show WIP's, till it's closer to completion, if they weren't expecting comments. it's a tough thing for artist putting themselves out there for the public, and I'm sure they are aware that they cannot please everyone. People are going to say what they are going to say.

I have been noticing how everyone is passing judgement and making suggestions for changes when they haven't even seen a finished color mock up.

How the hell is that possible? Can we like....wait until we see the finished mock up first? Geez!:confused:

I have been noticing this on every single piece XM shows (and they even tell us this is WIP with early base). I just don't get it. Let the artists do the work first....then all the want to be so called perfectionist chime in afterwards.

Just an observation.

Formula009
01-02-2015, 03:25 PM
I personally like the design

Dirt Torpedo
01-02-2015, 03:30 PM
Loving what im seeing so far.

nexus
01-02-2015, 03:33 PM
Good, bad or indifferent I think it's highly valuable for a company to get feedback in a forum. No you're not going to please all the people all the time. But while some artists might be more sensitive to criticisms, if you're a company expecting to sell products you want to make certain you're putting the strongest product out there. Sure everybody is an armchair art director but you just have to sift through the comments and criticisms, take the good and discard the wonky and stupid. I've ben a creative/marketing/advertising director for more than 20 years so I'm used to everyone from sales people to engineers to the IT folks having "ideas" about designs or campaigns but sometimes those ideas are good ones. And as a marketer I believe strongly in market research. These types of forums are fantastic research tools, not to mention being free. So I have no problem with reading the praises, critiques or suggestions Once a WIP is put up, whether somebody agrees with what I think or not. Sometimes folks have very good thoughts and suggestions that improve the product. Sometimes folks have you thinking WTF is this knucklehead drinking.

Back on track, yes it's a work in progress. I think it's a very strong concept and an overall cool looking Daredevil design but there are things that I as a collector am hoping to see changed or tweaked. I was lukewarm to the initial Quicksilver design at best, but the latest update looks fantastic. Ultimately it's up to the art directors at XM to decide on what the final product will look like (we're just the peanut gallery). My only decision then will be whether or not to buy.

Viper245
01-02-2015, 03:38 PM
Well said nexus. There is nothing wrong with making constructive suggestions to improve a piece. That's the main reason why XM shows WIPs. They welcome input from collectors.

Bobfrog
01-02-2015, 05:09 PM
Well said nexus. There is nothing wrong with making constructive suggestions to improve a piece. That's the main reason why XM shows WIPs. They welcome input from collectors.

Ditto.

But for some reason someone always feels the need to pull everyone up on it as though those taking the time to provide feedback are jumping the gun unnecessarily. Then people feel the need to defend themselves and it's a boring, repetitive cycle for each individual thread until the next wip pictures come along where they change stuff...:banghead:

Bottom line (for me anyway) is that if they really didn't want comments or suggestions like people have been making then they would:

a) not put it up until nearer completion
b) not take on board suggestions to anywhere near the degree that they have done.

And yeah it's hard for artists to put stuff out and have comments but hey that's art for ya. These guys are grown ups and can take comments. 99% of it has all been positive and or constructive anyway.

ryuhayabusa6787
01-03-2015, 02:37 PM
looks very promising. i can't wait to see the paint up it will make or break this piece since he is almost all red. very promising though. lots of details

marker2037
01-03-2015, 03:57 PM
The pants, clunky boots, belt, and whatever is going on with the straps on his hips up to that hump on his back all need to go. I don't like the armored look much for DD so I'm overall pretty disappointed. Hopefully it can improve.

gomur
01-03-2015, 06:32 PM
Ah ha! The under armor top and cargo pants were nagging me for a reason - I give you RE5's Chris "Boulder Puncher" Redfield!

Seriously, this Daredevil statue will be spectacular. I love the buttress base (thanks Bullseye). The only thing I would change is to tone down the baggy factor of DD's pants. Doesn't have to be skin tight, but maybe less pronounced wrinkles.

http://beagamecharacter.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Chris_Redfield-716x1024.jpg

JP Sarri
01-03-2015, 06:39 PM
Good, bad or indifferent I think it's highly valuable for a company to get feedback in a forum. No you're not going to please all the people all the time. But while some artists might be more sensitive to criticisms, if you're a company expecting to sell products you want to make certain you're putting the strongest product out there. Sure everybody is an armchair art director but you just have to sift through the comments and criticisms, take the good and discard the wonky and stupid. I've ben a creative/marketing/advertising director for more than 20 years so I'm used to everyone from sales people to engineers to the IT folks having "ideas" about designs or campaigns but sometimes those ideas are good ones. And as a marketer I believe strongly in market research. These types of forums are fantastic research tools, not to mention being free. So I have no problem with reading the praises, critiques or suggestions Once a WIP is put up, whether somebody agrees with what I think or not. Sometimes folks have very good thoughts and suggestions that improve the product. Sometimes folks have you thinking WTF is this knucklehead drinking.

Back on track, yes it's a work in progress. I think it's a very strong concept and an overall cool looking Daredevil design but there are things that I as a collector am hoping to see changed or tweaked. I was lukewarm to the initial Quicksilver design at best, but the latest update looks fantastic. Ultimately it's up to the art directors at XM to decide on what the final product will look like (we're just the peanut gallery). My only decision then will be whether or not to buy.

great input. :thumbs2:

Overkill93
01-03-2015, 07:46 PM
Overall the prelim looks AWESOME!!!!!!! You need to be reminded that when Jack and the Bullpen where PENCILING and INKING they had deadlines to meet and simplicity was the style of the day/time. Now that ALL of our expectations are so high, minute details are the order of the day. None of us want it to look like the body was spray painted without clothing, unless the fairer and more desirable sex. SHAMELESS I know. It needs to look like a costume and functional at the same time. Remember how everyone -----ed when ASM 1 & 2 revised the unitard/costume. Oh, it was made by a teenager..... 2 cents

ambasah
01-04-2015, 01:15 AM
if he was standing straight with the top half relatively unchanged would you guys like it more?

drkknight65
01-04-2015, 01:36 AM
As long as they fix his low rise pants I think it would look just fine

SONICobra
01-04-2015, 02:39 AM
if he was standing straight with the top half relatively unchanged would you guys like it more?

no, I like the current pose

AC_808
01-04-2015, 03:00 AM
if he was standing straight with the top half relatively unchanged would you guys like it more?

No, I would still want his pants to be form fitting. FYI, I prefer the current pose than a museum pose.

snappahead
01-04-2015, 04:50 AM
His head is a touch too small. I guess Im the only one who sees that, so maybe it's just me. Nice face sculpt though. I like the suit too. Looks like something that would make sense and XM has been going for a more detailed take on the classic designs, so it fits with the rest of the line. Looks good!

Thor57
01-04-2015, 10:23 AM
There is a reason gymnasts wear form fitting clothes. Trying to do all that swinging and flipping DD does would be made much more challenging with baggy clothes. Wolverine would be more likely to have loose clothing. I'm okay with small changes to original costumes. Everyone short of Cap and Thor seem to have been modernized a small bit. And that's fine with DD too, but he needs to have form fitting clothes.

marker2037
01-04-2015, 01:07 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7u7s9RjPq5k/VBFg_RYQgyI/AAAAAAAATmo/6KvxFsq2Osc/s1600/stgcc14xms-25.jpg

Subtract the shinguards, change the boots, and take away the "obvious Magneto stuff" and this is a pretty awesome Daredevil suit. More of what I would expect XM to put out as a "modern" take on the character's costume.

Peedi
01-04-2015, 01:26 PM
Magneto is still the perfect and best example of XM updating an outfit with their own twist while maintaining enough of the original look that the changes just work.

It's because Magneto doesn't so much add elements as it does change them. Magneto's Classic design with the glove and boot bands? They changed them to guards with straps. Outside undies? Removed, simple enough. Body suit too plain? Add some texture without that texture dominating the entire piece or creating unusual patterns. Need a bit more color? Take some of the usual purple elements and make them silver.

It's really just an alteration and update of things that already existed on the classic comic costume, which helped to add more details in a logical way which is why it works.

I like this Daredevil but it could use some of that same logic to make it better. It shouldn't be about adding details or elements, it should be about updating what's already there to make sense in a modern setting.

marker2037
01-04-2015, 01:28 PM
Exactly. Well put.

Remember Me?
01-04-2015, 02:38 PM
No, I would still want his pants to be form fitting. FYI, I prefer the current pose than a museum pose.

same here. Leave the museum pose for SS.

JP Sarri
01-04-2015, 02:40 PM
Magneto is still the perfect and best example of XM updating an outfit with their own twist while maintaining enough of the original look that the changes just work.

It's because Magneto doesn't so much add elements as it does change them. Magneto's Classic design with the glove and boot bands? They changed them to guards with straps. Outside undies? Removed, simple enough. Body suit too plain? Add some texture without that texture dominating the entire piece or creating unusual patterns. Need a bit more color? Take some of the usual purple elements and make them silver.

It's really just an alteration and update of things that already existed on the classic comic costume, which helped to add more details in a logical way which is why it works.

I like this Daredevil but it could use some of that same logic to make it better. It shouldn't be about adding details or elements, it should be about updating what's already there to make sense in a modern setting.

I agree with your logic.

SONICobra
01-04-2015, 03:03 PM
It's really just an alteration and update of things that already existed on the classic comic costume, which helped to add more details in a logical way which is why it works.

well put, I can agree with that :thumbs2:

AlizAbef
01-04-2015, 03:15 PM
Magneto is still the perfect and best example of XM updating an outfit with their own twist while maintaining enough of the original look that the changes just work.

It's because Magneto doesn't so much add elements as it does change them. Magneto's Classic design with the glove and boot bands? They changed them to guards with straps. Outside undies? Removed, simple enough. Body suit too plain? Add some texture without that texture dominating the entire piece or creating unusual patterns. Need a bit more color? Take some of the usual purple elements and make them silver.

It's really just an alteration and update of things that already existed on the classic comic costume, which helped to add more details in a logical way which is why it works.

I like this Daredevil but it could use some of that same logic to make it better. It shouldn't be about adding details or elements, it should be about updating what's already there to make sense in a modern setting.

Good post, man. When I saw Magneto for the first time, I was very overwhelmed by how contemporary his look was while still maintaining that classic comic image. It was a fantastic new design. It went very good with Wolverine too. I thought the zippers on Wolverine's boots looked cool initially, but now I realize XM could've done without putting those on his boots.

XM seems to be losing touch with what you posted here when it comes to Daredevil. Way too modernized and movie-esque for me.

He looks everything like movie Captain America, minus the horns, logos, and billy clubs. Mule's pic earlier had it right. XM should've gone with an outfit very similar to that one.

This new Daredevil costume is more fitting with somebody like Punisher, minus the cowl, tucking out the pants from the boots, logo/weapon change, and throwing a trench coat over the whole thing.

Kdawg59
01-04-2015, 03:32 PM
This is looking pretty exceptional. Great work on the sculpt Muf!

Remember Me?
01-04-2015, 03:41 PM
After thinking about it, the pant must be changed. I always prefer the classic costume more, so if possible change it back to spandex or make the pant more tighter. I don't think the boot will work with DD...I mean it's almost like giving Spiderman boot. DD is an acrobatic type of character and he needs clothing (Including accessories) that allow him to move freely. Now don't make him look like a 1/4th Bowen statue..=P.

actionjackson83
01-04-2015, 03:51 PM
He wears boots regardless even in his classic costume, I don't see any issues with the boots as designed. I hear all these people saying Daredevil is a gymnast, then if we really want to be technical he should be wearing ballerina flats and a spandex onsie instead of heavy boots and leather. The pants I can sorta see a problem with being a little baggy, but again that'll come down to how they are painted and textured. Changing it to the same material as the top with the breathable mesh pattern designs in strategic areas to make a tighter fit would probably please most fans.

Remember Me?
01-04-2015, 04:12 PM
I prefer the costume to be similar to this http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/277/files/2014/12/daredevil.jpg

And pose too :praying:

SONICobra
01-04-2015, 04:51 PM
I think the area of concern for most people is the left knee between the holster and boot. the right leg doesn't have any bagginess at all

equi-nox76
01-05-2015, 05:50 AM
I prefer the costume to be similar to this http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/277/files/2014/12/daredevil.jpg

And pose too :praying:

Yup, this is the perfect DD.

nexus
01-05-2015, 09:13 AM
Agreed. The costume is perfect and the kinetic, acrobatic pose is more of what I was expecting.

GrumpyBear
01-05-2015, 09:31 AM
And now try to explain how a full sculpted 1/4 statue can be posed on a base in a acrobatic pose like this. ;)

Remember Me?
01-05-2015, 09:50 AM
And now try to explain how a full sculpted 1/4 statue can be posed on a base in a acrobatic pose like this. ;)

He can be leaping off the roof top or wall.

majestic1
01-05-2015, 10:06 AM
I think the general consensus is for the suit to be more streamlined, DD usually wears his costume under his civilian clothes so he can jump into action on the spot like Supes or Spidey, looking at the wip pic he would have to go home and spend 30 mins getting into all that tactical gear and tightening all those straps.

Perhaps make the DD suit as streamlined and figure hugging as Quicksilver and we'll have a winner.


http://i61.tinypic.com/1q63x2.jpg

Spidey976
01-05-2015, 10:25 AM
I think the area of concern for most people is the left knee between the holster and boot. the right leg doesn't have any bagginess at all

Agreed. If that was a little more form fitting I think their wouldn't be half the complaints.

nexus
01-05-2015, 11:16 AM
And now try to explain how a full sculpted 1/4 statue can be posed on a base in a acrobatic pose like this. ;)

There actually was a custom that was somewhat similar but he was leaping off the base rather than falling away. I won't post a pic because it might break rules and this is an XM thread. I'm okay with the current pose but might be nice to see something more acrobatic. The suit is really the main thing I'm hoping to see tweaked. Anyway I'm sure XM will work it all out. I think the base is going to be fantastic.

Viper245
01-05-2015, 12:08 PM
I have no issues with the suit. I prefer a more modern take on my super heroes instead of the onsies spandex suit from yester year. I think XM is striking the right balance here on DD.

Spidey976
01-05-2015, 12:35 PM
I have no issues with the suit. I prefer a more modern take on my super heroes instead of the onsies spandex suit from yester year. I think XM is striking the right balance here on DD.

I personally feel the same, but I am just saying that if XM wanted to please everyone they could just tighten up that ONE area.

SONICobra
01-05-2015, 12:50 PM
I have no issues with the suit. I prefer a more modern take on my super heroes instead of the onsies spandex suit from yester year. I think XM is striking the right balance here on DD.

:goodpost:

I personally feel the same, but I am just saying that if XM wanted to please everyone they could just tighten up that ONE area.

yup :thumbs2:

equi-nox76
01-05-2015, 02:05 PM
And now try to explain how a full sculpted 1/4 statue can be posed on a base in a acrobatic pose like this. ;)

Like that one, epic setup next 2 eachother.
Instead of the hand on the base like Spidey use the knee of DD.

http://i.imgur.com/59KpvnF.jpghttp://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/277/files/2014/12/daredevil.jpg

toe
01-05-2015, 02:13 PM
that Spiderman looks rediculous already.

loricstone
01-05-2015, 04:04 PM
I have no issues with the suit. I prefer a more modern take on my super heroes instead of the onsies spandex suit from yester year. I think XM is striking the right balance here on DD.

I agree 100%. I like the spandex original costumes too...but XM has a nice little unique touch to the Marvel characters done so far. I love it all!

This DD is simply phenomenal!:vortex:

toe
01-05-2015, 06:31 PM
Yup. That's why i love XM's style. They add a bit of modernest to the costumes. Just like in comics, alot of the character's costumes changes, but just enough to not take away the original essence of the costume.

PureInvasion
01-05-2015, 07:15 PM
This DD looks great. If only SS could have pulled this off as their pose was horrendous (coming from a huge DD fan)

Viper245
01-05-2015, 07:28 PM
This DD looks great. If only SS could have pulled this off as their pose was horrendous (coming from a huge DD fan)

Word, PI, Word!!

toe
01-05-2015, 07:33 PM
the Sideshow Bullseye, tho. smh. just .... dang ...

rhy
01-05-2015, 09:01 PM
XM continues to impress.

Peedi
01-05-2015, 10:24 PM
the Sideshow Bullseye, tho. smh. just .... dang ...

That was a 1/5 Comiquette though. So the good news is both SS and XM still have the opportunity to do Bullseye justice in 1/4. SS could drive up desire for their DD PF if they made a Bullseye PF designed to match DD in battle, because then it'd be more of a battle scene, but XM could make an updated Bullseye look bad ass.

mufizal
01-05-2015, 10:29 PM
Hi Gang !

I had a chat with Seng last night and we had a long discussion about the pants.
Long Story short. Ill be making the changes you guys suggested ;)

XM will be posting the updates soon ! :)


Mufizal

actionjackson83
01-05-2015, 10:32 PM
Sweet!

Remember Me?
01-05-2015, 10:43 PM
COOL!!

SONICobra
01-05-2015, 11:03 PM
right on man, its looking great so far :thumbs2:

Viper245
01-05-2015, 11:21 PM
I am not opposed to tightening up the pants. Everything is looking great so far, mufizal. Great job!

Thor57
01-06-2015, 12:02 AM
Very nice. The pants were really the only problem I had. Everything else is top notch.

mufizal
01-06-2015, 02:56 AM
Haha . yes I think the tight rubbery pants will make him look sexier.
could make it shiny latex as well. :P ( Ey Shorudan ? *wink * wink* )

But in all honesty i think it will make the silhouette more defined.
the lines and flow will be cleaner too. I was trying to make him more
tactical as i was referencing the modern day parkour type movies where
all the heroes wear cool tactical type pants.

but i do agree that some tightness would make it better.

thanks guys for your support and feedback .

Mufizal

acme1982
01-06-2015, 03:58 AM
Haha . yes I think the tight rubbery pants will make him look sexier.
could make it shiny latex as well. :P ( Ey Shorudan ? *wink * wink* )

But in all honesty i think it will make the silhouette more defined.
the lines and flow will be cleaner too. I was trying to make him more
tactical as i was referencing the modern day parkour type movies where
all the heroes wear cool tactical type pants.

but i do agree that some tightness would make it better.

thanks guys for your support and feedback .

Mufizal

Thank you for the great job!

GrumpyBear
01-06-2015, 07:03 AM
Thx Mufizal and Seng. :thumbs2:

Shadowfax
01-06-2015, 10:49 AM
Hi Gang !

I had a chat with Seng last night and we had a long discussion about the pants.
Long Story short. Ill be making the changes you guys suggested ;)

XM will be posting the updates soon ! :)


Mufizal
thanks for the update, it's much appreciated...and excellent work :buttrock:

any chance you can give us an idea as to what the base will eventually look like ?

Bmutha
01-06-2015, 11:15 AM
Haha . yes I think the tight rubbery pants will make him look sexier.
could make it shiny latex as well. :P ( Ey Shorudan ? *wink * wink* )

But in all honesty i think it will make the silhouette more defined.
the lines and flow will be cleaner too. I was trying to make him more
tactical as i was referencing the modern day parkour type movies where
all the heroes wear cool tactical type pants.

but i do agree that some tightness would make it better.

thanks guys for your support and feedback .

Mufizal

I love the insight you guys give to your design process.

You are doing one of my favourite all-time characters justice!

ambasah
01-06-2015, 11:29 AM
how quickly things can be adjusted amazes me. One discussion and it is done.

Viper245
01-06-2015, 11:35 AM
That's the beauty of digital sculpting, ambasah. It's easy to change things on the fly compared to traditional hand sculpting.

Bmutha
01-06-2015, 10:48 PM
That's the beauty of digital sculpting, ambasah. It's easy to change things on the fly compared to traditional hand sculpting.

And another nice thing is they can quickly go back if they don't like the changes.

ambasah
01-06-2015, 11:43 PM
I was thinking more about the approval process.

I imagine other digital artists working for other companies have to jump through many hoops before any changes are implemented.

Snadinator
01-08-2015, 09:39 AM
My thoughts

1) The top of his uniform looks too much like a motocross jersey with added shoulder pads.

2) The boots look cumbersome and restrictive.

3) The head is a little too small

DD is a ninja. His gear should be light and not encumber his movements.

loricstone
01-08-2015, 02:06 PM
My thoughts

1) The top of his uniform looks too much like a motocross jersey with added shoulder pads.

2) The boots look cumbersome and restrictive.

3) The head is a little too small

DD is a ninja. His gear should be light and not encumber his movements.

He is also an acrobat that jumps and lands on solid hard metallic and concrete objects. There is no way outside of DD being superhuman that he could jump and land without breaking bones in his feet with spandex boots. I don't have a problem with the boots at all.

Now while that is a taste thing.....I clearly don't see how his head is too small.:confused: I was thinking he has a big noggin...lol.

I would like to see the pants tight, but also keep the tactical gear and accessories. Its these little touches and changes to the costumes that make these statues from XM so engaging...and a little more exciting...when done correctly.

Either way, I will try my hardest to get every and all XM Marvel statues...and the TOP COW WITHCBLADE AND especially DARKNESS statues. Make mine XM!!!!

RadAsGhoul
01-08-2015, 02:21 PM
That resembles a little the 90's suit (a little). I, personally don't have a problem with the way the project looks, but understand if people would want the classic look. SS' PF is disappointing to say the least...It might actually be my 1st XM buy tbh...By the way, did you guys see the teaser for the tv show? :D I know it's basically a logo, but, maaaaan, I'm so hyped for this series!!!

loricstone
01-08-2015, 02:31 PM
That resembles a little the 90's suit (a little). I, personally don't have a problem with the way the project looks, but understand if people would want the classic look. SS' PF is disappointing to say the least...It might actually be my 1st XM buy tbh...By the way, did you guys see the teaser for the tv show? :D I know it's basically a logo, but, maaaaan, I'm so hyped for this series!!!

I'm right there with ya Rad. Can't wait for the new show. Also....Agents of Shield is much better this season than last (even though I loved last season as well). Haven't watched Agent Carter yet (on DVR). But yah....DD is awesome character and I hope the statue turns out brilliantly just like I hope the show turns out the same. :buttrock:

DynamicMenace
01-08-2015, 02:42 PM
He is also an acrobat that jumps and lands on solid hard metallic and concrete objects. There is no way outside of DD being superhuman that he could jump and land without breaking bones in his feet with spandex boots. I don't have a problem with the boots at all.

Now while that is a taste thing.....I clearly don't see how his head is too small.:confused: I was thinking he has a big noggin...lol.

I would like to see the pants tight, but also keep the tactical gear and accessories. Its these little touches and changes to the costumes that make these statues from XM so engaging...and a little more exciting...when done correctly.

Either way, I will try my hardest to get every and all XM Marvel statues...and the TOP COW WITHCBLADE AND especially DARKNESS statues. Make mine XM!!!!
well compared to how he is drawn in this comic image and with the images of the digital render you can clearly see that the head is slightly too small for DD. the head most def needs to be a bit bigger. with it being the size that it is currently makes him appear as though he is a very large/tall man. DD is only 6' tall (with his boots on mind you). with the head this small it make him appear much taller/larger than what he really is supposed to be. and we know how crucial head size is when doing proportions for the height of a character/person. and lets not forget the rout in which XM is taking here. its clear that they are going for realism. so in that case DD is wearing some sort of mask/helemt. so that would call for the head to be larger.
i say if they increase the head by 10% as i have done here it would be perfect.. im not a DD fan, but i have to say this is XM's best piece to date pose and over all concept and design wise. Mufizal has done an outstanding job on this. and the more i look at it the more ive been contemplating on making this my fist XM piece... but only if they increase the head :p

im cool with whatever else they decide to do with this. def their best piece to date IMO .

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/277/files/2014/12/daredevil.jpg


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RadAsGhoul
01-08-2015, 02:42 PM
I'm right there with ya Rad. Can't wait for the new show. Also....Agents of Shield is much better this season than last (even though I loved last season as well). Haven't watched Agent Carter yet (on DVR). But yah....DD is awesome character and I hope the statue turns out brilliantly just like I hope the show turns out the same. :buttrock:

Totally agree! Just catching up with S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent Carter is next on the list! Also, Bendis' run on DD, and Miller's The Man Without Fear is bound to be read ASAP!!! :buttrock:

Hopefully the show will spark a new interest in this awesome character, and thus new wave of statues will eventually land in our homes! :praying:

Shoo
01-08-2015, 06:01 PM
i say if they increase the head by 10% as i have done here it would be perfect.

I agree it looks much better with a slightly bigger head.

gomur
01-08-2015, 07:19 PM
I didn't think the head was small before, but it does look better with the tweaks. Nicely done, DM.

DSET
01-08-2015, 08:12 PM
His head is a touch too small. I guess Im the only one who sees that, so maybe it's just me. Nice face sculpt though. I like the suit too. Looks like something that would make sense and XM has been going for a more detailed take on the classic designs, so it fits with the rest of the line. Looks good!

first thing i noticed

if fixed this could be my first xm

SONICobra
01-08-2015, 11:56 PM
i think once the costume is red it will put all that "armored suit" talk to rest. I love the added detail, I don't care for the spandex look outside of the comics themselves

Peedi
01-09-2015, 12:51 AM
I'm right there with ya Rad. Can't wait for the new show. Also....Agents of Shield is much better this season than last (even though I loved last season as well). Haven't watched Agent Carter yet (on DVR). But yah....DD is awesome character and I hope the statue turns out brilliantly just like I hope the show turns out the same. :buttrock:

Totally agree! Just catching up with S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent Carter is next on the list! Also, Bendis' run on DD, and Miller's The Man Without Fear is bound to be read ASAP!!! :buttrock:

Hopefully the show will spark a new interest in this awesome character, and thus new wave of statues will eventually land in our homes! :praying:

Oh yeah people! Agents of SHIELD is much better, especially since the comic/MCU ties are so much clearer now and we finally have several Agents that are characters from the comics instead of just original characters (Mockingbird, Quake). Agent Carter is on my DVR, too...I'll have to finally get a Netflix account for DD.

DynamicMenace
01-09-2015, 02:13 AM
His head is a touch too small. I guess Im the only one who sees that, so maybe it's just me. Nice face sculpt though. I like the suit too. Looks like something that would make sense and XM has been going for a more detailed take on the classic designs, so it fits with the rest of the line. Looks good!

no man your not the only one, i actually mentioned this from the get go..:thumbs2: this does look very nice, i like everything about it. if i was a die hard DD fan i would want to pick this one up. no matter what the price is.
but my one and only critique would be that the head is just a bit too small. should be a just a little bit bigger.

I agree it looks much better with a slightly bigger head.
in deed that ti does

I didn't think the head was small before, but it does look better with the tweaks. Nicely done, DM.
thanks man.. yeah i think if Mufizal adjusts it and makes it 10% bigger it would look perfect. and the more i look this i really love the pose. like i said. if i was a DD fan i would be def getting this one. IMO this is the best XM (Mufizal) has done to date. its there best piece hands down. .

i think once the costume is red it will put all that "armored suit" talk to rest. I love the added detail, I don't care for the spandex look outside of the comics themselves

agreed, i like the details. but i think the pants def need to be less baggy, its giving him that military type of look to them. i think of cargo pants when i see them.
i say make them a little less baggy, add details to them that compliment the upper part of the suit, his jacket. give the pants a similar look as the jacket. some similar details and texturing in certain areas.
that would really make the costume pop.

Snadinator
01-09-2015, 12:17 PM
He is also an acrobat that jumps and lands on solid hard metallic and concrete objects. There is no way outside of DD being superhuman that he could jump and land without breaking bones in his feet with spandex boots. I don't have a problem with the boots at all.


I never said no boots. He has boots in the comics. But the boots on the initial reveal here would be far too restrictive. No one in parkour or acrobatics would wear footwear like that.

wolf-brother
01-09-2015, 12:42 PM
no man your not the only one, i actually mentioned this from the get go..:thumbs2:


in deed that ti does


thanks man.. yeah i think if Mufizal adjusts it and makes it 10% bigger it would look perfect. and the more i look this i really love the pose. like i said. if i was a DD fan i would be def getting this one. IMO this is the best XM (Mufizal) has done to date. its there best piece hands down. .



agreed, i like the details. but i think the pants def need to be less baggy, its giving him that military type of look to them. i think of cargo pants when i see them.
i say make them a little less baggy, add details to them that compliment the upper part of the suit, his jacket. give the pants a similar look as the jacket. some similar details and texturing in certain areas.
that would really make the costume pop.

Good stuff DM. In total aggreement with all you observations and suggestions. :thumbs2:

mufizal
01-09-2015, 01:34 PM
well compared to how he is drawn in this comic image and with the images of the digital render you can clearly see that the head is slightly too small for DD. the head most def needs to be a bit bigger. with it being the size that it is currently makes him appear as though he is a very large/tall man. DD is only 6' tall (with his boots on mind you). with the head this small it make him appear much taller/larger than what he really is supposed to be. and we know how crucial head size is when doing proportions for the height of a character/person. and lets not forget the rout in which XM is taking here. its clear that they are going for realism. so in that case DD is wearing some sort of mask/helemt. so that would call for the head to be larger.
i say if they increase the head by 10% as i have done here it would be perfect.. im not a DD fan, but i have to say this is XM's best piece to date pose and over all concept and design wise. Mufizal has done an outstanding job on this. and the more i look at it the more ive been contemplating on making this my fist XM piece... but only if they increase the head :p

im cool with whatever else they decide to do with this. def their best piece to date IMO .

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/277/files/2014/12/daredevil.jpg


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I hearya DM. :)
I think its like sitting down at a foodcourt watching the lady cleaning the whole floor and missing that one spot that you know is dirty. Then you try to talk to the lady , but she is wearing beats headphones jamming to a song in her own world.

Head sizes is a very delicate balance of proportions and feel. there is a very small margin for that perfect sweetspot. we are trying to find that right point. but with Seng on board. we will find that for sure.

Ill save ya. ill clean that spot for you ;)

Mufizal

DynamicMenace
01-09-2015, 03:01 PM
I hearya DM. :)
I think its like sitting down at a foodcourt watching the lady cleaning the whole floor and missing that one spot that you know is dirty. Then you try to talk to the lady , but she is wearing beats headphones jamming to a song in her own world.

Head sizes is a very delicate balance of proportions and feel. there is a very small margin for that perfect sweetspot. we are trying to find that right point. but with Seng on board. we will find that for sure.

Ill save ya. ill clean that spot for you ;)

Mufizal

:laugh: i hear ya man. trust me, your not the only artists who misses this from time to time. and im no expert. but your right. head sizes are a very delicate balance of proportions and feel.
especially when the character is wearing a helmet or mask. so its def something that can be easily over looked. especially staring a lit screen for hours on end.
but the head size as you know really is what can determine or convey how tall a person/character is.

ill say it again, im not a DD fan. but this is your's and XM's best piece to date concept and pose wise. i love the realistic take on it.
i know you mentioned that you were going to tone down on the wrinkles of the pants. to make them less baggy. thats a great idea. but may i make another suggestion?

it would also be an excellent idea for you to possibly add some of the textures and design of the jacket to the pants as well. so that they kind of match and go with one another.
like the areas at the inside of the elbow you could do that for the back side of the knees. and the area on the inside of the thighs you could give it that texture of the front side of the jacket.
i think if you did that it would really enhance the looks of the suit and make look more unified.

also, Snadinator makes a really good point about the boots. its not the design. but they do look a bit cumbersome or too thick.
i think if your going to slim down the pants, i think it would be a great idea to do the same for the boots and make them look a bit sleeker.

your doing an incredible job on this Muf, this is def some of your best work to date.

and thanks for taking my suggestion about the head size and adjusting it. im really liking this one a lot. im really contemplating on this one.
it just might be my fist XM purchase, and im not even a DD fan..lol

i just love the pose and composition of this piece a lot. and if you take my other suggestions and apply them to this piece and make them a reality. i think i would have no choice BUT to get one of these..:laugh:

looking killah Muf, looking forward to the finalized render. :thumbs2:

Snadinator
01-09-2015, 04:22 PM
:laugh: i hear ya man. trust me, your not the only artists who misses this from time to time. and im no expert. but your right. head sizes are a very delicate balance of proportions and feel.
especially when the character is wearing a helmet or mask. so its def something that can be easily over looked. especially staring a lit screen for hours on end.
but the head size as you know really is what can determine or convey how tall a person/character is.

ill say it again, im not a DD fan. but this is your's and XM's best piece to date concept and pose wise. i love the realistic take on it.
i know you mentioned that you were going to tone down on the wrinkles of the pants. to make them less baggy. thats a great idea. but may i make another suggestion?

it would also be an excellent idea for you to possibly add some of the textures and design of the jacket to the pants as well. so that they kind of match and go with one another.
like the areas at the inside of the elbow you could do that for the back side of the knees. and the area on the inside of the thighs you could give it that texture of the front side of the jacket.
i think if you did that it would really enhance the looks of the suit and make look more unified.

also, Snadinator makes a really good point about the boots. its not the design. but they do look a bit cumbersome or too thick.
i think if your going to slim down the pants, i think it would be a great idea to do the same for the boots and make them look a bit sleeker.

your doing an incredible job on this Muf, this is def some of your best work to date.

and thanks for taking my suggestion about the head size and adjusting it. im really liking this one a lot. im really contemplating on this one.
it just might be my fist XM purchase, and im not even a DD fan..lol

i just love the pose and composition of this piece a lot. and if you take my other suggestions and apply them to this piece and make them a reality. i think i would have no choice BUT to get one of these..:laugh:

looking killah Muf, looking forward to the finalized render. :thumbs2:

Definitely want the pants form fitting. Let's see some of DD's Olympian like physique come through here. I love how they did the uniform on the XM wolverine (which I have preordered). It has some unique tweaks but without going so far as to alienate the fans.

Got to remember that DD is a ninja.

The back panel of the base needs a stained glass window look.

Kitty Kat 07
01-15-2015, 07:30 PM
XM is on a serious roll!!

shorudan
01-15-2015, 10:05 PM
it would also be an excellent idea for you to
it just might be my fist XM purchase, and im not even a DD fan..lol

i just love the pose and composition of this piece a lot. and if you take my other suggestions and apply them to this piece and make them a reality. i think i would have no choice BUT to get one of these..:laugh:

looking killah Muf, looking forward to the finalized render. :thumbs2:

Do everything you can to make this dude a customer, mulfizal! Throw in a selfie with a kiss if you have to!

SONICobra
01-16-2015, 12:17 AM
this is officially my most anticipated statue, CAN NOT WAIT

vorpoll
01-16-2015, 01:20 AM
Damn, I am not that big of a DD fan but this looks AWESOME. Going to be hard to resist

Thor57
01-16-2015, 01:29 AM
I think DM is on a roll with his suggestions. I'll begin this with saying that this looks great already. His pose is awesome and the base once finished I'm sure will be a home run. But for me personally, not being a Daredevil fan, he has to be perfect for me to pull the trigger. Kind of like Hawkeye. He's not a favorite of mine, but my god his pose, his texture and overall demeanor were spot on, so I pulled that trigger early. He's my most anticipated XM piece behind Thor, and I'm a much bigger fan of Wolverine and Iron Man than I am of Hawkeye.

Anyhow, on point. To make him perfect for this collector, DM is right that I feel his suit could feel more like an overall suit and match up a bit more. Right now, when I look at him, I see a textured under-armor type shirt, tucked into a pair of loose fitting slacks, leather armor guards on his arms and a pair of motocross boots. The design is great, but I'd like it to be a bit more uniform. Maybe make the pants form fitting, take the shin guard off the boots to make them a little less bulky. Keep the straps! Gives the image that he puts on his boots, and just straps them up and that gives them the form fitting look.

marker2037
01-16-2015, 02:06 AM
I agree 100% with all the suggestions of DM and Thor here.

In addition on the boots suggestion I would eliminate the "hiking/offroad boot" tread pattern and give him something more suitable to an "urban, concrete/asphalt environment". Similar to the differences between an off-road motorcycle tire and a street motorcycle tire. That's the type of tread pattern for the boots that is needed here. He needs grip on the urban, man made structures, not in mud and dirt. The more contact surface area with the street/urban ground the more traction he has vs. the less traction he'd have with knobbies and deep tread patterns. Oh and instead of the more squared off soles where the boots is sewn to the soles it would be a more integrated, rounded off sole where it meets the boot. That pic above posted by DynamicMenace shows the tread pattern well on those shoes. It has a "street/urban" pattern to it and the more rounded, integrated soles which would be better for running around the city and jumping to and off buildings and objects.

Finally....lose the DD symbol on the belt buckle. In fact, lose that tacky, bulky belt buckle design altogether. It's overly redundant and Daredevil is not the type of character who would use or do that. The chest symbol is all he needs. That big buckle would just get in the way. He would definitely use something more slimmer and simpler. If you want to modernize it and keep with the theme do a search for "tactical belt buckle" and you could easily see better what I think works better.

DynamicMenace
01-16-2015, 02:23 AM
Do everything you can to make this dude a customer, mulfizal! Throw in a selfie with a kiss if you have to!

:laugh: thanks Bryan,, :thumbs2:

SONICobra
01-16-2015, 02:47 AM
....lose the DD symbol on the belt buckle.

love it as is but I agree, this would make it a little cleaner. its slightly overkill having the "DD" insignia on his chest then again on the buckle

TethMau74
01-19-2015, 01:41 AM
This is a fantastic looking statue. I'm not going to miss this one! What type of interchangeable heads / arms could this one come with? Head w/o mask? Arms w/o connected billy club?

shorudan
01-19-2015, 11:29 AM
New DD photos with base up on our FB!

A R E S
01-19-2015, 11:40 AM
Looks fantastic so far. I like the added details on the base.

I would consider losing the DD symbol on the belt, since it's kinda redundant with his chest symbol and looks a bit like Daredevil really needs people to notice the DD sign.

don't know if the head was already made bigger, but i think it's a little too small.

But that are minor nitpicks, the statue really has a Daredevil feeling.

GrumpyBear
01-19-2015, 11:45 AM
"Here we goes XM give you THE RED DEVIL!!!!!
xm credit this daredevil to two genius .......SKAN (Studio HIVE) for the great design ...... MUFIZAL (Mr captain America ) for the cool sculp..." XM FB

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Bullseye
01-19-2015, 11:47 AM
Love the alterations. Wow.

darren1228
01-19-2015, 11:48 AM
Looks fantastic! So much better than the PF.

Skully
01-19-2015, 11:58 AM
i agree, they should lose the DD on his belt. it's like superman returns' S on superman's belt all over again but other than that, this one looks immaculate!

Remember Me?
01-19-2015, 11:59 AM
Please take out the DD on the belt and make the head bigger. Thanks!

AC_808
01-19-2015, 12:04 PM
Yeeesssssss!! That looks great! Thank you, XM!

I do agree with removing the DD from the belt buckle, tho.

Skully
01-19-2015, 12:16 PM
Yeeesssssss!! That looks great! Thank you, XM!

I do agree with removing the DD from the belt buckle, tho.

yeah, it kinda looks redundant.

SONICobra
01-19-2015, 12:16 PM
love love LOVE it! statue of the year! :p

I agree with the other folks, if I were to change one thing it would be removing the logo on the belt buckle

nexus
01-19-2015, 12:18 PM
So much better. Agree on the large DD belt buckle but not a deal breaker. Head does look a little small. Nevertheless this one will be ordered. I still have the SS on pre-order, but can always either cancel or just get both.

AlizAbef
01-19-2015, 12:25 PM
Looking a lot more like Daredevil. I'll also piggyback and say to remove the logo off his belt buckle. The straps on his boots still need to come off. When you look past the straps, it looks like a nice contoured and streamlined boot. When the straps and buckles are added, it's like wtf? They just get in the way.

Lastly, what does the harness contraption on his back doing for him? All I can see is that it's connected to straps near his neck and the straps near his waist, but what's it for?

Remove the belt logo, remove the harness, remove the boot straps and you have a perfect DD.

SONICobra
01-19-2015, 12:28 PM
just gotta come back and say that base is absolutely fantastic! perfect setting for daredevil and the sculpt is superb, the texturing on the stone, the lions head gargoyles, all the little details - just awesome! bravo xm and mufizal, bravo!

ambasah
01-19-2015, 12:36 PM
I really like what I see as well. this thing will be epic in 1/4 scale. finding room for him though will be a challenge given the height of the base.

Formula009
01-19-2015, 12:46 PM
I kinda wish there were a couple different shades of RED involved, other than that another great piece. GO XM!

Matches Malone
01-19-2015, 12:50 PM
Wow, just, wow. Gorgeous piece. I may have to join the "out of market mad scramble" to land this piece that I have only witnessed from afar to date.

Viper245
01-19-2015, 12:59 PM
This will be the definitive DD! Hands down. I love the latest render. The base is fantastic. definitely DD esque.

I have no problem with the buckles on the boots. It modernizes the suit which I like. The DD should be removed from the belt and the head should be slightly bigger.

Great job so far DD!

loricstone
01-19-2015, 01:37 PM
Love the alterations. Wow.

I was going to add F'n Wow....but Wow is good enough.:)

loricstone
01-19-2015, 01:40 PM
This will be the definitive DD! Hands down. I love the latest render. The base is fantastic. definitely DD esque.

I have no problem with the buckles on the boots. It modernizes the suit which I like. The DD should be removed from the belt and the head should be slightly bigger.

Great job so far DD!

I'll ditto what you just said!:thumbs2:

Bowen or Bust
01-19-2015, 01:41 PM
I Want This !!

mauroshow
01-19-2015, 01:43 PM
yes, I agree with you. Too DD on this costume LOL

Lockdown
01-19-2015, 01:52 PM
Awesome DD! I would like to see the window above his
head to resemble stained glass made of clear resin like the wings that have done on the queen ants.

adee
01-19-2015, 01:52 PM
The base design is awesome and the updates to the costume are a big improvement. Fantastic!

Awesome DD! I would like to see the window above his
head to resemble stained glass made of clear resin like the wings that have done on the queen ants.

Stained glass window would look great!

Marcel54
01-19-2015, 01:57 PM
Looks great and I concur with the suggestions done, but I want to add one. I would really like to see real gargoyles instead of the lionheads. Real gargoyles are more frightening so it could be that the licence owner wouldn't allow it, but I am sure they would lift this great statue just a little bit more.

risingstar
01-19-2015, 02:06 PM
Stained glass window would look great!



I love the stained glass idea!


Looks great and I concur with the suggestions done, but I want to add one. I would really like to see real gargoyles instead of the lionheads. Real gargoyles are more frightening so it could be that the licence owner wouldn't allow it, but I am sure they would lift this great statue just a little bit more.



I definitely see your point. However, if I might add, it's nice to see something different from time to time. The gargoyle themed base has become so overused and clichéd. I think we could benefit from a break from the gargoyles for a little while. The lions look really good too. :)

AllThatExist666
01-19-2015, 02:22 PM
Now this is a worthy DD that I been waiting for
love that base and everything else some minor changes
and is perfect.

Roy Batty
01-19-2015, 02:23 PM
Any chance of an exclusive in his yellow outfit?

marker2037
01-19-2015, 02:36 PM
I love the changes made and the base is now really cool. I'm still in the camp about the belt buckle and DD logo on it. The logo needs to go and the buckle could be streamlined instead of being so clunky. I agree about the head, it needs to be slightly bigger I think.

Good job guys!

edit: Let me add one more thing: What is the pack on his back for? The thing all the straps on his sides are going to. I just don't understand the point of it. I think if you lose that it's going to be so much better.

AlizAbef
01-19-2015, 02:42 PM
Any chance of an exclusive in his yellow outfit?

I can tell you right now you need to get out of 'Sideshow Mode' because that won't happen. XM doesn't do Exclusives. Everyone gets the same opportunity to own the same statue with all it's switch-out accessories. XM also doesn't do variants as Exclusives. If you want a yellow costumed Daredevil, then you'll just have to wait for a whole new XM engineered Daredevil to come out.

AC_808
01-19-2015, 02:43 PM
Any chance of an exclusive in his yellow outfit?

I don't think so. That would be a variant and XM has said they will not make variants.

AC_808
01-19-2015, 02:55 PM
Awesome DD! I would like to see the window above his
head to resemble stained glass made of clear resin like the wings that have done on the queen ants.

The base design is awesome and the updates to the costume are a big improvement. Fantastic!



Stained glass window would look great!

With the first rendering, a few of us did suggest a stain glass window or a rose motif.

Seriously I'm ok with the rose motif, but I agree I think a stain glass window would improve this piece. It would add some color to a statue that will normally be red and gray.

marker2037
01-19-2015, 03:12 PM
Stained glass window would be sick

Bullseye
01-19-2015, 03:15 PM
I hope XM look after us Mods who want to purchase this one. :D

Remember Me?
01-19-2015, 03:39 PM
Stained glass window would be sick

+1

toe
01-19-2015, 05:05 PM
Im not a DD fan. Never read any comics of his but this statue is a must have. Thats how good this sculpt is

keewan
01-19-2015, 05:15 PM
Stained glass window would be sick

I think what's there is fine, but stained glass window would be a nice way to add some colors to this piece.

Mamba
01-19-2015, 05:16 PM
Perfect. Best DD statue so far.

Restinpieces
01-19-2015, 05:36 PM
Changes and new render look sharp, nice work!

vorpoll
01-19-2015, 05:38 PM
Im not a DD fan. Never read any comics of his but this statue is a must have. Thats how good this sculpt is

I am feeling that way too. Not sure if I will order though.

DynamicMenace
01-19-2015, 05:46 PM
base looks awesome,, but the head still looks too small.

marker2037
01-19-2015, 05:50 PM
Im not a DD fan. Never read any comics of his but this statue is a must have. Thats how good this sculpt is

Sacrilege!

VS1976
01-19-2015, 06:06 PM
wow.... Now they got this right!

AC_808
01-19-2015, 06:12 PM
Sacrilege!

HaHa ...you tell'em, Marker ...HaHa

marker2037
01-19-2015, 06:15 PM
He's my favorite character and he's easily had the most consistent, best books on the shelves since the second run, Kevin Smith kick-off, started in '98.

Bmutha
01-19-2015, 06:51 PM
He's my favorite character and he's easily had the most consistent, best books on the shelves since the second run, Kevin Smith kick-off, started in '98.

Indeed, you are correct.

Matches Malone
01-19-2015, 07:04 PM
I hope XM look after us Mods who want to purchase this one. :D

+1 :goodpost:

khrisc
01-19-2015, 07:24 PM
remove DD on belt and add stainedglass window and i might not be able to resist this!

Shoo
01-19-2015, 07:25 PM
Im not a DD fan. Never read any comics of his but this statue is a must have. Thats how good this sculpt is

I am feeling that way too. Not sure if I will order though.

Frank Miller. Brian Michael Bendis. Ed Brubaker. Mark Waid. Get all of their runs, you two. Now.

You're welcome.


Sick base, by the way!

Thor57
01-19-2015, 07:29 PM
Looks really good!

Bullseye
01-19-2015, 07:29 PM
Regarding the stain glass window where are people suggesting it go? You would never see a SG window in line with a flying buttress. It would need to be to the side. This would add unnecessary bulk to the piece.

Remember Me?
01-19-2015, 08:52 PM
Regarding the stain glass window where are people suggesting it go? You would never see a SG window in line with a flying buttress. It would need to be to the side. This would add unnecessary bulk to the piece.

Right here:

http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t464/58457687/Dare_zps1387c6c8.jpg (http://s1061.photobucket.com/user/58457687/media/Dare_zps1387c6c8.jpg.html)

Bullseye
01-19-2015, 08:58 PM
Right here:

http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t464/58457687/Dare_zps1387c6c8.jpg (http://s1061.photobucket.com/user/58457687/media/Dare_zps1387c6c8.jpg.html)

Architecturally that would never happen. The windows are located centrally between the buttress. That circle at most would be a relief. Putting it there would be tackey and inaccurate.

Shadowfax
01-19-2015, 09:09 PM
I like the stained glass idea but i'm afraid it might end up being overkill....please keep the base as is
Agree with everyone that the DD on the belt needs to go...loving the new/refined look of the pants...boots and gloves look excellent
Also agree that the head looks a little out of proportion to the body

My biggest concern is the armour (?) on his back...it looks totally out of place imo...i would humbly suggest toning it down by making it flatter

Sorry if i sound too critical...it's just that i see a definitive DD in the making

And yes, this piece will be mine...XM is knocking another one out of the park...congrats :)

Remember Me?
01-19-2015, 09:27 PM
I like the stained glass idea but i'm afraid it might end up being overkill....please keep the base as is
Agree with everyone that the DD on the belt needs to go...loving the new/refined look of the pants...boots and gloves look excellent
Also agree that the head looks a little out of proportion to the body

My biggest concern is the armour (?) on his back...it looks totally out of place imo...i would humbly suggest toning it down by making it flatter

Sorry if i sound too critical...it's just that i see a definitive DD in the making

And yes, this piece will be mine...XM is knocking another one out of the park...congrats :)

You mean here:
http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t464/58457687/dare1_zpsa9c8e79f.jpg (http://s1061.photobucket.com/user/58457687/media/dare1_zpsa9c8e79f.jpg.html)

Yup, that makes him looks like a hunch back.....:confused2

Bullseye
01-19-2015, 09:30 PM
It actually resembles the airbags MotoGP riders have on their leathers. Practical.

Viper245
01-19-2015, 09:31 PM
I vote no for stained glass. It doesn't fit with this base as Bulls has stated.

TethMau74
01-19-2015, 09:32 PM
I like the base as it is.
The buckle is not that big of a deal.
The head size could be a bit larger as suggested before, but it's not a major issue.
The harness (?) on his back connecting to the straps wrapped to the front is.....different; not sure what to think about that. :thinking:

Overall I still like it. A pre-order for me!!

Bullseye
01-19-2015, 09:33 PM
The more I see the relief or outline of the stainglass the more I hope it's removed. Structurally it makes zero sense. I hope the sculptor changes that. A more pointed finish to the buttress would look far better.

Remember Me?
01-19-2015, 09:35 PM
Is the base done? If it is, then can it stand on its own without leaning against the wall.

Shadowfax
01-19-2015, 09:35 PM
You mean here:
http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t464/58457687/dare1_zpsa9c8e79f.jpg (http://s1061.photobucket.com/user/58457687/media/dare1_zpsa9c8e79f.jpg.html)

Yup, that makes him looks like a hunch back.....:confused2
Ya, it just looks very odd to me...can't help but think he has a small parachute strapped to his back

I really like the look of the straps/belts around and up his back, but the bulky part between his shoulder blades needs to be toned down a lot
Imo, it looks even worse on the other angled pics

Hopefully XM will agree :)

Remember Me?
01-19-2015, 09:37 PM
Ya, it just looks very odd to me...can't help but think he has a small parachute strapped to his back

I really like the look of the straps/belts around and up his back, but the bulky part between his shoulder blades needs to be toned down a lot
Imo, it looks even worse on the other angled pics

Hopefully XM will agree :)

I am okay with the pads...just the back part is a bit weird to me too. But it's okay....I am not going to display him from the back....^^

Bullseye
01-19-2015, 09:41 PM
Some reference for the sculptor. If you want to extend the rear wall and have partial window to the side.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j12/statueforum/6ADC6637-AE6C-4758-92A4-240664492252_zpstkjy4tao.jpg (http://s76.photobucket.com/user/statueforum/media/6ADC6637-AE6C-4758-92A4-240664492252_zpstkjy4tao.jpg.html)

Note windows located on walls between buttress. The buttress is a structural support to stop the large vaulted ceilings and roofs pushing the outer walls outwards. A window would never be allowed by an Engineer in the location on this base.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j12/statueforum/3DFB65EE-3157-4B58-BBB9-6A0D41D43A13_zps2kvxhdxf.jpg (http://s76.photobucket.com/user/statueforum/media/3DFB65EE-3157-4B58-BBB9-6A0D41D43A13_zps2kvxhdxf.jpg.html)

Also you might put alittle ornate carvings on the under arch.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j12/statueforum/C07E750E-AD6A-4A2E-921E-6CE225774C9B_zpsjw8gghfs.jpg (http://s76.photobucket.com/user/statueforum/media/C07E750E-AD6A-4A2E-921E-6CE225774C9B_zpsjw8gghfs.jpg.html)

Remember Me?
01-19-2015, 09:43 PM
Some reference for the sculptor. If you want to extend the rear wall and have partial window to the side.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j12/statueforum/6ADC6637-AE6C-4758-92A4-240664492252_zpstkjy4tao.jpg (http://s76.photobucket.com/user/statueforum/media/6ADC6637-AE6C-4758-92A4-240664492252_zpstkjy4tao.jpg.html)

Note windows located on walls between buttress. The buttress is a structural support to stop the large vaulted ceilings and roofs pushing the outer walls outwards. A window would never be allowed by an Engineer in the location on this base.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j12/statueforum/3DFB65EE-3157-4B58-BBB9-6A0D41D43A13_zps2kvxhdxf.jpg (http://s76.photobucket.com/user/statueforum/media/3DFB65EE-3157-4B58-BBB9-6A0D41D43A13_zps2kvxhdxf.jpg.html)

Also you might put alittle ornate carvings on the under arch.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j12/statueforum/C07E750E-AD6A-4A2E-921E-6CE225774C9B_zpsjw8gghfs.jpg (http://s76.photobucket.com/user/statueforum/media/C07E750E-AD6A-4A2E-921E-6CE225774C9B_zpsjw8gghfs.jpg.html)

:thumbs2: Thanks for the clarifying.

TethMau74
01-19-2015, 09:50 PM
Very good visual reference Bullseye.

TheYoungWolf
01-19-2015, 10:00 PM
Some reference for the sculptor. If you want to extend the rear wall and have partial window to the side.

Note windows located on walls between buttress. The buttress is a structural support to stop the large vaulted ceilings and roofs pushing the outer walls outwards. A window would never be allowed by an Engineer in the location on this base.

Also you might put alittle ornate carvings on the under arch.

Notre Dame? Exactly what came to mind when the rough sculpt was first revealed.:thumbs2:

Marvel isn't my focus, so it's unlikely I'd ever drop the cash for this but for what it's worth, I agree with Bulls. The window idea just isn't a proper representation of architecture and thus, has no business being in that spot. If necessary, I feel as though it would look good to expand the "back" of the base (surface of the wall) downward and add a half-window on either side, ensuring that the base remains both ornate and accurate while also catering to those insistent on the stained glass window motif.

I like the modernized suit as well. Straps, pads, buckles and all.. The back panel with the straps strikes me as a type of body brace. It's a nice blend of real-world practicality.

TethMau74
01-19-2015, 10:27 PM
I know this is 1/4 scale but with that large looking base does anyone want to guesstimate the overall size of this statue? I would display it on the current base but could there be an option to show it on low ground like Hawkeye?

Bmutha
01-19-2015, 10:34 PM
Dear XM Studios,

Thank you for making this glorious Daredevil statue. The character deserves this kind of love and attention.

Sincerely,

Bmutha


P.S.

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