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BurningRage
07-06-2017, 07:30 AM
https://www.sideshowtoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/preview_AlienQueen.jpg

ozboy
07-06-2017, 08:05 AM
Hmmm... Interesting to see if this is 1:4 or Alien King scale and how things compare to the Matrix Studio build.

DPmaster
07-06-2017, 08:07 AM
Hmmm... Interesting to see if this is 1:4 or Alien King scale and how things compare to the Matrix Studio build.

99.9% chance it will be the same scale as the Alien King maquette.

generalzodlives
07-06-2017, 10:25 AM
And $1000 and plastic

Python
07-06-2017, 01:28 PM
Keeping an eye on this...

Ricky Bobby
07-06-2017, 01:36 PM
Cool news,i hope its on the bigger size

Chrisrex82
07-06-2017, 01:50 PM
And $1000 and plastic

Was the Alien King Plastic?

Dirt Torpedo
07-06-2017, 02:01 PM
just got the alien warrior email, was hoping the Queen was going up today.

Eky
07-06-2017, 02:38 PM
Keeping an eye on this...

Add mine :itsb:

Igo
07-06-2017, 02:54 PM
99.9% chance it will be the same scale as the Alien King maquette.

99.9% chance you're right... and this is done with Legacy, so it should be ok...

Remember Me?
07-06-2017, 03:06 PM
How many more years do we have to wait?

Igo
07-06-2017, 03:23 PM
Between 1 and "When "Star Wars Episode 14" comes out"

Python
07-06-2017, 03:48 PM
99.9% chance you're right... and this is done with Legacy, so it should be ok...


Will this be done in a similar style? The base on the King was pretty much universally loved. A queen like that (a nest of drones) would be very interesting!

oddlysober
07-06-2017, 03:56 PM
Cool, can't wait to see the full reveal.

Pilky
07-06-2017, 05:11 PM
Will this be shown at Comicon?

Vpuik
07-06-2017, 06:21 PM
Will this be shown at Comicon?

All items part of the On Line Comic-Con are usually at the real con.

kolektan
07-06-2017, 07:41 PM
well, that's unexpected. since it is a companion piece to the Alien King, I'm not too excited about the size.
but the whole design without a doubt will be epic...
but Matrix's Queen will crush this thing in terms of presence...
but its base is uninspiring and it is not a licensed product...
but Prime1 will eventually make a licensed one in collaboration with CoolProps...
but it may come in 1:3 scale which is way too big for me...

oh, what a dilemma... if only money and space are no issues...

jinkazama
07-07-2017, 02:09 AM
Wondering if this new Alien Queen maquette will be a scaled down version of the Alien Queen with the hive that sideshow shown a few years ago...:thinking:

Comicbookguy
07-07-2017, 04:53 AM
Scale??????

forps
07-07-2017, 12:43 PM
Igo, we simply want 1 thing!!! Make this Queen BIG, ENORMOUS...The problem with your recent Alien King was that he was TOOOOOO PUNY next to other Alien pieces. 100% (not 90% but 100%) of the community complained about Alien King's size (especially its height)..

So make this Queen Maquette BIGGGGGG..... Collectors need to feel that ok, they are going to pay top money (prices for new po's are skyrocketing) but they are at least getting HUGE statues (yes, size DOES matter nowadays).

Remember Me?
07-07-2017, 12:55 PM
(yes, size DOES matter nowadays).

That's what she said.

xploited
07-07-2017, 01:11 PM
Igo, we simply want 1 thing!!! Make this Queen BIG, ENORMOUS...The problem with your recent Alien King was that he was TOOOOOO PUNY next to other Alien pieces. 100% (not 90% but 100%) of the community complained about Alien King's size (especially its height)..

So make this Queen Maquette BIGGGGGG..... Collectors need to feel that ok, they are going to pay top money (prices for new po's are skyrocketing) but they are at least getting HUGE statues (yes, size DOES matter nowadays).

I'd certainly pay good money for a decent sized Queen, 35in-ish

Igo
07-07-2017, 01:56 PM
Igo, we simply want 1 thing!!! Make this Queen BIG, ENORMOUS...The problem with your recent Alien King was that he was TOOOOOO PUNY next to other Alien pieces. 100% (not 90% but 100%) of the community complained about Alien King's size (especially its height)..

So make this Queen Maquette BIGGGGGG..... Collectors need to feel that ok, they are going to pay top money (prices for new po's are skyrocketing) but they are at least getting HUGE statues (yes, size DOES matter nowadays).

Appreciate the feedback, and I dont disagree... but she's going to be sized to go with the Alien King. Brace yourselves with reasonable expectations...

Armored_Berserk
07-07-2017, 02:15 PM
Same Size? So basically the same size of the previous Alien Queen diorama?
If yes it's disappointing...

Vpuik
07-07-2017, 03:10 PM
Same Size? So basically the same size of the previous Alien Queen diorama?
If yes it's disappointing...

Was the previous Alien Queen the same size as the Alien King?

Dirt Torpedo
07-07-2017, 03:20 PM
if you want bigger go with Prime and Cool Props. No need to settle for wierd poses anymore.

forps
07-07-2017, 05:25 PM
Appreciate the feedback, and I dont disagree... but she's going to be sized to go with the Alien King. Brace yourselves with reasonable expectations...

Ok, Igo. No problem with that, but my advice is to price it accordingly (eg to the cheaper side) in order to achieve 2 things. 1) Avoid collectors going apesh..t all over facebook about this being overpriced compared to its size ("2000doll Sideshow for this, are you crazy? Easy pass, dudes") , 2) Give the average collector the opportunity to buy a top-quality Alien product, ok small in size, but reasonable priced. In other words, make it small, but do not price out "average collectors".

My 0.36 cents, Igo.

Chrisrex82
07-07-2017, 05:48 PM
Ok, Igo. No problem with that, but my advice is to price it accordingly (eg to the cheaper side) in order to achieve 2 things. 1) Avoid collectors going apesh..t all over facebook about this being overpriced compared to its size ("2000doll Sideshow for this, are you crazy? Easy pass, dudes") , 2) Give the average collector the opportunity to buy a top-quality Alien product, ok small in size, but reasonable priced. In other words, make it small, but do not price out "average collectors".

My 0.36 cents, Igo.

I agree, if you want to pay $2,000 for your giant Queen wait for Prime One

67L88Stingray
07-08-2017, 12:24 AM
I agree, if you want to pay $2,000 for your giant Queen wait for Prime One

Matrix 1/4 one retail is $1100

ozboy
07-09-2017, 07:16 AM
Instead of 1:10 queen and king statues and wonky 1:6 alien statues I'd much rather a 1:4 Ripley...

Josh-a-tron
07-09-2017, 07:29 AM
Instead of 1:10 queen and king statues and wonky 1:6 alien statues I'd much rather a 1:4 Ripley...

1:5th but who's measuring.

generalzodlives
07-09-2017, 08:08 AM
Wasn't there a comparison pic with the new SS Big Chap statue and the HT Alien Warrior that showed they're the same size?

jinkazama
07-12-2017, 02:41 AM
Hey Igo, any chance we'll see the Alien Queen at SDCC this year?

xpl0sive
07-12-2017, 04:24 AM
Hey Igo, any chance we'll see the Alien Queen at SDCC this year?

I asked this question in the 'ask Sideshow' thread and was told it'll be there.

jinkazama
07-12-2017, 06:05 AM
I asked this question in the 'ask Sideshow' thread and was told it'll be there.
Thanks for the head's up! :thumbs2:

Chrisrex82
07-12-2017, 02:23 PM
Matrix 1/4 one retail is $1100

They were probably able to keep cost down by not getting the license

67L88Stingray
07-13-2017, 03:11 AM
They were probably able to keep cost down by not getting the license

True, but that shouldn't double the price either.

Python
07-19-2017, 11:54 AM
Ohhhh....



http://i.imgur.com/ZrphBry.jpg

Ricky Bobby
07-19-2017, 12:16 PM
Damn that's looks nice,was gonna pass due to its smaller size,but maybe not anymore

Josh-a-tron
07-19-2017, 12:21 PM
http://i.imgur.com/jBd5eVa.gif

toty21
07-19-2017, 01:52 PM
1:5th but who's measuring.

Wasn't this 1/10th, I thought it was the same size as the Alien King and the Alien King is definitely 1/10th

Josh-a-tron
07-19-2017, 01:53 PM
Wasn't this 1/10th, I thought it was the same size as the Alien King and the Alien King is definitely 1/10th

I meant the Alien Warrior, it's 1/5th not 1/6th.

COI
07-19-2017, 01:54 PM
Looking sexy.

Pilky
07-19-2017, 04:11 PM
https://image.ibb.co/n5qUKk/IMG_9302.jpg

Python
07-19-2017, 04:11 PM
From Nearmint...


http://i.imgur.com/tWPcyiu.jpg

bonedaddy77
07-19-2017, 04:13 PM
Loving this

Ricky Bobby
07-19-2017, 04:19 PM
This looks awesome,another one on the list

Armored_Berserk
07-19-2017, 04:20 PM
Looks very very nice, hope she is not to small! (ok that's what she said!)

COI
07-19-2017, 04:29 PM
This looks amazing. And expensive.

BurningRage
07-19-2017, 04:31 PM
I like it.

bonedaddy77
07-19-2017, 04:34 PM
Eggs on the base and a couple alien warriors. Probably at least $1k like the alien king

Gruson
07-19-2017, 04:50 PM
Curious about the size too but it is better than expected for sure!

COI
07-19-2017, 04:51 PM
Probably along the same lines as the king: 20" by 20".

grphyx1
07-19-2017, 04:52 PM
Why? Why? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?!!! This is making me love her too much.

kolektan
07-20-2017, 03:35 AM
after seeing the matrix studio's queen, I can only say: why so small?

I love the design direction, I love the pose, I love the base, I even love the little drone underneath her, but I'm trying so hard to love the size. dont get me wrong, this queen sure commands presence... among other small scale statues...

I guess it's better to wait for what prime1 will bring.

jfyahui
07-20-2017, 05:26 AM
https://image.ibb.co/n5qUKk/IMG_9302.jpg

Wow,that is amazing ,this will be hard to pass,size is not an issue,this is great,and will be very expensive in the aftermarket,I will get this day one,

Bullseye
07-20-2017, 05:37 AM
It looks amazing but would look out of place with my other 1/4 scale Alien collection.

madmanny
07-20-2017, 07:00 AM
i can see this becoming very sought after

Ehollywood
07-20-2017, 07:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-_57lPVvlQ

Video i took of this Beauty :)

Dirt Torpedo
07-20-2017, 07:56 AM
This more than makes up for the poor Alien releases over the last few years. Best thing since the Alien Warrior Maquette.

SDguy
07-20-2017, 09:18 AM
This thing is beautiful!! Saw it last night. And it is plenty large, I don't need a 3' tall Alien Queen.

Python
07-20-2017, 09:34 AM
after seeing the matrix studio's queen, I can only say: why so small?

I love the design direction, I love the pose, I love the base, I even love the little drone underneath her, but I'm trying so hard to love the size. dont get me wrong, this queen sure commands presence... among other small scale statues...

I guess it's better to wait for what prime1 will bring.


Because the matrix studio queen is too big for most people even if the price is appealing. I think the size of this is fine, I like large statues and I'm completely excited for the 1/3 Big chap from CP/P1. But her majesty is an unwieldy shape and she suits smaller scales, as well as being big enough to still make for an impressive size regardless.

I actually prefer the base on the King, it was less busy and flowed better, I'd like to have seen something similar with a hive themed twist here, but I like this none the less. If the price is right, I'll try to get one.

SONICobra
07-20-2017, 09:43 AM
awesome looking piece, would look great with the king

jinkazama
07-20-2017, 07:05 PM
From Nearmint...


http://i.imgur.com/tWPcyiu.jpg
Best piece at SDCC so far!!!:thumbs2:[wonder how big it is....:thinking:]

Vpuik
07-20-2017, 09:08 PM
Best piece at SDCC so far!!!:thumbs2:[wonder how big it is....:thinking:]

Kings. It here, but it feels like it was smaller when they bad it last year.

CessnaDriver
07-20-2017, 10:40 PM
It's very nice, to my eye though the warriors seem a bit undersized and the tail is far more segmented than what I'm used to seeing. So a little artistic interpretation I think over the screen used puppet, at least the one in ALIENS.

heman
07-21-2017, 01:35 AM
Positive.................SOMEONE FINALLY got the fu**ing tendons accurate, right down to them attaching to the crown. The face is straight out of the movie. I can only assume this was done on computer and 3D printed. Cons, the tail is TOO PERFECT. it should not be so paternized and the feet have inaccuracy too. The drones are too small to scale, but all in all, a beautiful piece, best queen piece to date and most accurate except for cons mentioned. I personally think this looks a bit bigger than the KING maquette.

If you want big, matrix is cheap, but the shipping charge makes it NOT cheap and then customs and duties on TOTAL amount. For the money, Matrix seems way to go unless you do not want to support recasting which is no big deal in china and USA cant touch them with copyrights. BUT in all this time, the companies who had the license, did nothing. They never gave the people what they asked for, so its there fault that some recasting china company comes along and gives what the collectors want. If you have money, get matrix, but even the tendons on that are wrong.

This sideshow is first after all these years to get right. Both will be $1200, but one has a $500 shipping charge and china tax as well as duties and import fees for other countries like canada. In the end Matrix will cost almost $3000 cdn to get her, sideshow will cost about $1800 cdn all said and done. If I had the money, Id get both, but im out of room and I have no money now do to court with ex over my son. $60 000 plus in hole and counting.

BUT I have the queen of all grails. A brand new ONE OFF LIFE SIZE queen alien sculpted by hansing himself base on my designs and his expert mind on the matter. So all these little statues dont really matter to me, but I can see how they will be a big deal to those who want one.

HCG just released a lifesize bust, its not accurate in any way and we all know that thier end products just SUCK. I have a warrior I want returned under false advertising because the end tendons are completely redesigned like a 5 year old with some playdoo slapped them on and gave them a crap paintjob.WRECKED the whole statue. I havent even opened mine, this is just based on pictures and videos of people who got one. IM FLAMING mad after waiting 2 years for this, but people warned me about HCG, but after seeing it displayed at last years comic con, It looked good minus the pose they did. SO I pulled the trigger.....................NEVER AGAIN. Still waiting response. 2 weeks and counting. FALSE advertising. End product may have paint variations, but this is complete new sculpt and paint app that has wrecked whole piece. I wanted it to go next to my queen. Now, you couldnt give it to me FREE................and yes im serious about that!

Bullseye
07-21-2017, 07:43 AM
I should really ban you for that gibberish. My head hurts from reading it. Paragraph and sentence structure??? I need to lie down.

johnclone
07-21-2017, 07:56 AM
:deadh:LOL

like one big fever dream

Doctor Doom
07-21-2017, 10:26 AM
Love this statue! Why are the other warriors so small though? There was not that large of a size difference in the films. :confused::confused::confused:

Josh-a-tron
07-21-2017, 10:27 AM
Love this statue! Why are the other warriors so small though? There was not that large of a size difference in the films. :confused::confused::confused:

Shh, she's eating for 16

Chrisrex82
07-21-2017, 11:38 AM
Looking forward to the pre order announcement

leplant
07-21-2017, 07:09 PM
I passed on the king, but barring something unexpected in price, I will be picking this up.

67L88Stingray
07-21-2017, 09:00 PM
I passed on the king, but barring something unexpected in price, I will be picking this up.

Expect the unexpected!

leplant
07-22-2017, 01:06 AM
Expect the unexpected!

I wasn't expecting the kings price but now I've been softened up. By releasing a small unconventional non canon character, and charging a butt load of money, Sideshow has emotionally prepared me.

Gruson
07-22-2017, 01:40 AM
I like it but if you have the room, Matrix Queen is a no brainer. I owned a 1:5 Queen before and it's amazing.

forps
07-22-2017, 03:23 AM
Perfect statue and sculpt, PUNY - PUNY - PUNY size. Why Sideshow ? Make it TALLER and more imposing ! Its a nearly perfect depiction of Alien Queen!!! Why so f....g small ?

All the guys initially interested, are now saying the same. Its a nice statue, but the scale is too small to collect it or make an impression. So they will wait for Prime1s 1/3 line or the non-approved Matrix's one.

jaxon
07-22-2017, 04:18 AM
Yep, agree. Looks awesome, just too small! To satisfy me, I'll pose my neca the same way and purchase the Matrix one, win win for me.

Planeswalker
07-22-2017, 07:00 AM
I'm waiting on Prime1s Queen. It will no doubt be a piece to be reckoned with!

jfyahui
07-22-2017, 07:02 PM
True prime one will be big,..but when?this is here now,and it's plenty big,the alien warrior in the background is a lot smaller next to the alien queen,..so this must be close to 1/4? Also I love the base,the alien eggs,the facehuggers hutching..and alien warriors in the shadows...it really is a piece of art,..for me day one pre order..

Malvo
07-22-2017, 07:41 PM
True prime one will be big,..but when?this is here now,and it's plenty big,the alien warrior in the background is a lot smaller next to the alien queen,..so this must be close to 1/4? Also I love the base,the alien eggs,the facehuggers hutching..and alien warriors in the shadows...it really is a piece of art,..for me day one pre order..

As far as I know Prime 1 hasn't even confirmed a 1/3 scale Alien Queen. John Pham of Prime 1 did say he would like to make one, but that's about it. And even if they do produce one, at the rate of speed they produce statues you're looking at 2020 or beyond. And at price tag north of 3K I suspect.

toty21
07-22-2017, 08:06 PM
True prime one will be big,..but when?this is here now,and it's plenty big,the alien warrior in the background is a lot smaller next to the alien queen,..so this must be close to 1/4? Also I love the base,the alien eggs,the facehuggers hutching..and alien warriors in the shadows...it really is a piece of art,..for me day one pre order..

I agree this is very nice, but this is no where near 1/4 scale...this is 1/10 scale and would look like a mouse next to a 1/4 scale Alien Queen.

COI
07-22-2017, 09:12 PM
A 1/4 scale queen would be 5 feet tall.

forps
07-23-2017, 06:39 AM
This sculpt being 30inches height-wise, KO for the new Prime1 line. This is the BEST Alien-related sculpt Sideshow ever produced, but somebody was "smart" enough to make it PUNY !!!! WHYYYYYY?

@ 700doll the average Alien collector will say..."Nahhhhh, i will buy the Matrix one, bigger and more imposing or i will wait for the new 1/3 enormous Prime1 line". The market has changed, but Sideshow is still behaving as if she is still alone in this hobby. WAKE UP, Sideshow.

We want this marvellous sculpt in a BIGGER scale, not enormous (eg 40inc), but around 30inches height-wise. I read at least 50-60 comments @ social media, complaining about its height.

Prime1 is going to kill you, Prime1 is quickly taking all of Sideshow's fans of "REALISM" and big scale. Sideshow will be left producing puny statues and puny scales. We want this MASTERPIECE of a sculpt (Alien Queen maquette) @ least 30 inch height-wise.

(i admit that forps is a bit biased. Forps HATES small and short "statues". They look like Hot-toys figures. A big and imposing sculpt oozes a "statue-vibe" when executed good. This Alien Queen is the perfect example, the best Alien-related sculpt Sideshow came with, but tooooooooooo short to make an IMPRESSION)

Python
07-23-2017, 06:53 AM
Forps this, Forps that...


I'm not sure you speak for the "average" Alien collector, I'm not even sure there is one. Not many people have the space for the Matrix queen, it's huge! And unlicensed to boot remember. This sideshow version appears to be more of a diorama type thing, and I think the size is fine for that as it's more about the scene rather than just her highness. The Queen is an unwieldy shape, deceptive in many ways, I suspect that once you take all dimensions into account, this is probably a more impressive size than most people are thinking.

I do agree however that the competition for this license has just sky rocketed into the stratosphere. The Coolprops Big chap maquette isn't even comparable to anything we've seen from Sideshow or anybody else in the past. And with Prime 1 said to be working on their own, this really is a great time to be an alien collector... And Predator also for the same reasons soon which bodes very well given some recent items. A 1/3 queen is probably never going to happen however, that's just crazy but you may see a larger scale version that's more focused on the Queen from CP, P1, or even Sideshow themselves in future. For now, take this Queen maquette for what it is or leave it I guess as there's no lack of choice on the horizon, at least it looks pretty nice which is something. Rather than shoot SSC down about it, I'd rather encourage them to try and keep up with what the competition finally doing. We are all winners if they can....



This is where we're at now. :drooling: Good times.

http://i.imgur.com/tX8PMIe.jpg?1

forps
07-23-2017, 07:02 AM
I'm not sure you speak for the "average" Alien collector, I'm not even sure there is one. Not many people have the space for the Matrix queen, it's huge! And unlicensed to boot remember. This sideshow version appears to be more of a diorama type thing, and I think the size is fine for that as it's more about the scene rather than just her highness. The Queen is an unwieldy shape, deceptive in many ways, I suspect that once you take all dimensions into account, this is probably a more impressive size than most people are thinking.

I do agree however that the competition for this license has just sky rocketed into the stratosphere however. The Coolprops Big chap maquette isn't even comparable to anything we've seen from Sideshow or anybody else in the past. And with Prime 1 said to be working on their own, this really is a great time to be an alien collector... And Predator also for the same reasons soon which bodes very well given some recent items. A 1/3 queen is probably never going to happen however, that's just crazy but you may see a larger scale version that's more focused on the Queen from CP, P1, or even Sideshow themselves in future. For now, take this Queen maquette for what it is or leave it I guess as there's no lack of choice on the horizon, at least it looks pretty nice which is something. Rather than shoot SSC down about it, I'd rather encourage the to try and keep up with what the competition finally doing. We are all winners if they can....

I know that Matrix is unlicensed and i would never buy that thing (or even promote it). But the average collector thinks this way. Why to buy a small Alien Queen for 700d when i can buy something bigger?

Or when Coolprops or Prime1 are coming with 1/3 BEASTS? The average collectors thinks..." I want the ULTIMATE Alien in my collection and a rather PUNY and short statue wont do an impression". The market has dramatically changed and Sideshow is a bit slow to realize it. The fail of the new Alien King maquette where 99% of collectors (even guys who received it) complained about its height next to eg Alien Chap or Alien from Cinemaquette, should alarm Sideshow that SHORT Alien statues, dont sell well enough. PERIOD.

Nevertheless, this sculpt (Alien Queen Maquette) is the best Alien-related sculpt, Sideshow ever came up with! I love the sculpt!

Python
07-23-2017, 07:19 AM
I'm not sure the market has changed, so much as the prices are just getting to such an unbearable amount, that people would rather pay a bit more for the higher end stuff. Suggesting Sideshow don't know the market is strange as they are still easily the market leaders for now.

I can't speak for the average collector, just me. I know we've seen lots of people sadly bowing out entirely in the last year or so. I have cut way down, I have three statues on order currently, a number which would have been way higher not so long ago, especially given all of the cool stuff about currently. I've passed on numerous really cool SSC items begrudgingly. What I am doing instead however is considering very expensive items that I would have been very unlikely to buy a few years ago and buying a few of those instead. The coolprops 1/3 Big chap above will likely be one of these purchases unless they go mad again with their pricing which they sadly do on occasion. If it's priced as I expect, I'd rather have a Giger museum backed, near perfect looking 1/3 Alien for a big chunk of money, than two or three PF's. And that is the choice we all face now.

Sideshow are doing just fine mostly, all companies have their hits and missis, but this Queen maquette is lovely aside from a few undersized drones that they will hopefully scale up. Their one big issue in general is that the items they are producing are being priced in a way that does them a disservice and takes them more in line with higher end items. And that is where we the customer have to decide where our money goes. I will point out however, we don't actually know yet how much this Queen maquette is. Maybe save some criticism until we have all of the details. If you want a bigger Queen, I'm fairly certain you'll get one at some point. This one probably isn't for you, but that doesn't make it a mistake as there is no doubt plenty of people out there dying for a Queen dio of this size. And it has plenty of positives that we could focus on despite your personal preferences.

forps
07-23-2017, 09:11 AM
so much as the prices are just getting to such an unbearable amount, that people would rather pay a bit more for the higher end stuff.

What I am doing instead however is considering very expensive items that I would have been very unlikely to buy a few years ago and buying a few of those instead. ... If it's priced as I expect, I'd rather have a Giger museum backed, near perfect looking 1/3 Alien for a big chunk of money, than two or three PF's. And that is the choice we all face now.



Dear Python,

the above describes EXACTLY how the average collector being PRICED out feels today. "Why to get 2-3 PFFs for 600d each and not get a 1/3 beast instead which is bigger and more imposing!" Im screaming this to Sideshow but Sideshow seems to live in another world. Check out their sales for the PUNY and Koto-looking Artgerm line. Fail. The sales of Killer Croc. Small and puny Killer Croc = FAIL.

The market is going to 2 directions. Many older collectors being priced out either go to smaller, figure-ish scales (1/6) or they wait for the best or better said an ENORMOUS 1/3 representation of the character they want. EXACTLY as you mentioned above ((average collector) is considering very expensive items that I would have been very unlikely to buy a few years ago and buying a few of those instead. I'd rather have a Giger museum backed, near perfect looking 1/3 Alien for a big chunk of money, than two or three PF's. And that is the choice we all face now.)

This is the reason Prime1 is so successful and murders Sideshow @ the moment. Prime1 offers REALISTIC sculpts (what collectors love, a grown up man wants something looking "serious" enough to present it in his mancave) together with BIG SCALES and sculpts. The average collector who was collecting PFFs for 300-350d is being squeezed to death.

This along with the entrance of DEEP-POCKET collectors from Asia or other regions due to the success of the comic-based movies lead to the situation where the old, average collector is doomed!

Pity or not, market has gone to either too small or too big. Sideshow should re-align herself accordingly. Her no1 competitor isnt XM, is the BEAST Prime1 coming in full speed with realistic and big sculpts.

Back to subject, the same Alien Queen sculpt but 30inch height-wise, and a sure day 1, second 1, millisecond 1 PO for me!

forps
07-23-2017, 09:18 AM
Ahhh and Python, forps loves you (you are kind and polite) so i will give you an advice.

Coolprops 1/3 Alien looks like a toy, it has no pose, it is too stiff. It gives a "toy-vibe", its like a big action figure! Better wait for the beasts 1/3 Prime1 is preparing

My 0.46 cents cause forps "loves" your politeness!

Python
07-23-2017, 09:31 AM
Well thank you for the compliment, while advice is appreciated, it will fall on death ears in this case as we seem to have different tastes, which is fine. A museum pose does not necessarily equate to an action figure look.

I can see why such static poses are not for everybody of course. But Coolprops clearly set out to make an accurate representation of the real suit as it sits today in the Giger museum and they have succeeded spectacularly in that regard. We've never seen an Alien sculpt this good before. The pose is inoffensive and demands all focus on the creature design itself, and given how close they have got it to the real thing, that's just fine by me and I'd love to have a bit of Giger history like that in my house. I will say that I would prefer they at least took a little artistic liberty to add some simple aesthetics to the base, a Nostromo style floor for example. But otherwise I love that thing. If you know of a figure that looks like it however, I'm all ears ;) And I am pretty concerned about Coolprops production pieces tbh, that's why I was excited when we thought P1 were involved..

All of that said, as overjoyed as I am at an accurate Big chap prop from Coolprops, I'm also incredibly excited to see what Prime 1 (and others including Sideshow) can do to try and match it. If P1 can make something that looks almost as good as the CP version, with a nice living pose, well I'll be doubly happy and there is certainly room for both in my display (If I can afford it)

As for the Queen maquette potentially having being 30" tall, that would no doubt be cool I agree (I like bigger scales also) The problem there is that it would also be around 30" deep also, and I'd imagine a large amount of potential customers would struggle to fit that into their displays. The Big chap is one thing, you can make him 1/3 not problem as he's tall and skinny, the Queen is a different beast entirely.

SDguy
07-23-2017, 07:57 PM
A 1/4 scale queen would be 5 feet tall.

yeah, pass. Glad there are some collectors that want that.

I prefer more manageable sizes.

komodo112
07-23-2017, 08:43 PM
Pros:

- Details
- Paint
- Base
- Pose

Iffy:

- Facehuggers: they look like they're decorations on the eggs.

- Alien Warriors: Its not the size of the warriors vs the queen that I noticed but the size of the warriors vs the eggs.

Overall: An awesome piece. If it was a little cheaper I'd buy it in a heart beat. Thinking about this one. I always loved the Alien Queen the most of the Xenomorphs

kolektan
07-23-2017, 10:07 PM
it is down to what size we are collecting and how we perceive things. for me, I'd buy a queen with at least 1/6 scale because that's the minimum scale I'm collecting. I love her too much I dont want my 1/4 hulkbuster to tower the queen.
I've made a mistake with 1/20 scale t-rex from chronicle. she doesnt fit anywhere within my collection. I would not make the same mistake with the queen.

Indomitus
07-24-2017, 01:46 AM
Very nice from the videos and images! Wish this was in a smaller scale as too big to be part of a collection as it is itself a collection...

oddlysober
07-24-2017, 02:37 AM
I wonder can we display the queen without the warriors and the facehuggers.

Python
07-24-2017, 03:10 AM
I wonder can we display the queen without the warriors and the facehuggers.

You could always find the older Queen dio, might see some up for sale given this announcement...

https://www.sideshowtoy.com/collectibles/product-archive/?sku=9109

forps
07-24-2017, 09:51 AM
Well thank you for the compliment, while advice is appreciated, it will fall on death ears in this case as we seem to have different tastes, which is fine. A museum pose does not necessarily equate to an action figure look.

I can see why such static poses are not for everybody of course. But Coolprops clearly set out to make an accurate representation of the real suit as it sits today in the Giger museum and they have succeeded spectacularly in that regard. We've never seen an Alien sculpt this good before. The pose is inoffensive and demands all focus on the creature design itself, and given how close they have got it to the real thing, that's just fine by me and I'd love to have a bit of Giger history like that in my house. I will say that I would prefer they at least took a little artistic liberty to add some simple aesthetics to the base, a Nostromo style floor for example. But otherwise I love that thing. If you know of a figure that looks like it however, I'm all ears ;) And I am pretty concerned about Coolprops production pieces tbh, that's why I was excited when we thought P1 were involved..

All of that said, as overjoyed as I am at an accurate Big chap prop from Coolprops, I'm also incredibly excited to see what Prime 1 (and others including Sideshow) can do to try and match it. If P1 can make something that looks almost as good as the CP version, with a nice living pose, well I'll be doubly happy and there is certainly room for both in my display (If I can afford it)

As for the Queen maquette potentially having being 30" tall, that would no doubt be cool I agree (I like bigger scales also) The problem there is that it would also be around 30" deep also, and I'd imagine a large amount of potential customers would struggle to fit that into their displays. The Big chap is one thing, you can make him 1/3 not problem as he's tall and skinny, the Queen is a different beast entirely.

Well, you speak with the BIGGEST fan of MUSEUM poses and a man who HATES tooooooo many things going on with a statue. 100% of the people on this forum know that forps HATES anything looking toy-ish. An exception would be the new Deadpool PFFs cause they suit the characters.

But in this case with Coolprops, its not a museum pose, it has NO pose! I know that its "posed" like the Giger one, nevertheless the ACTION FIGURE-vibe is toooooooo strong.

An example. I LOVE Superman 1/2 from Prime1, but i HATE Batman 1/2 from Prime1! Superman's pose is a museum one and fits the character, whereas Batman's pose is tooooo awkward. I love museum poses, but in Coolprops case there is no pose. Sorry, Python but if you CANT get what im saying with one glimpse of the statue, then you are never going to "get" my feelings towards this new offering.

Nevertheless, if you like the new Coolprops 1/3, its ok. Go ahead and buy it. It was only a suggestion i made!

forps
07-24-2017, 09:57 AM
it is down to what size we are collecting and how we perceive things. for me, I'd buy a queen with at least 1/6 scale because that's the minimum scale I'm collecting. I love her too much I dont want my 1/4 hulkbuster to tower the queen.
I've made a mistake with 1/20 scale t-rex from chronicle. she doesnt fit anywhere within my collection. I would not make the same mistake with the queen.

Yep another collector stating the SAME im telling Sideshow ONE F...G YEAR NOW!!! NO PUNY ALIENS or PREDATORS. MAKE THEM HUGE...its EXACTLY what im shouting to Sideshow. They RUINED this sculpt by making it TOOOOOO small.

This is PERFECT, pose, attitude, style, its MILES BETTER than the new Queen from Matrix (the unlicensed one), actually Sideshow's sculpt KILLS everything ever made (Alien-related)

But one "smart" guy decided to make this Queen a PUNY one, like the new Warrior or King! Nearly 100% of possible customers or buyers of this are pissed off...

Sideshow @ todays prices, SIZE does matter.

]it is down to what size we are collecting and how we perceive things. for me, I'd buy a queen with at least 1/6 scale because that's the minimum scale I'm collecting. I love her too much I dont want my 1/4 hulkbuster to tower the queen.
I've made a mistake with 1/20 scale t-rex from chronicle. she doesnt fit anywhere within my collection. I would not make the same mistake with the queen.[/I]

Darth Pain
07-24-2017, 10:31 AM
I like it,. The warriors look a little small but overall a nice diorama. I'll probably get one. Unless, I finish my 1/4 set up first.

Fremen
07-24-2017, 12:26 PM
This is really nice but I think I'll just stick with my older queen dio.

Armored_Berserk
07-24-2017, 12:45 PM
i really hope that she is bigger than the previous dio...

Bakelite
07-27-2017, 08:37 AM
If she is reasonably priced I might have to snag this. Do we have estimated PO date?

Planeswalker
01-07-2018, 03:53 PM
Any updates on this?

SDguy
01-07-2018, 04:20 PM
i really hope that she is bigger than the previous dio...

She is not, I saw her at SDCC last year.

This is the piece I plan to finally use my reward points on.

Planeswalker
01-07-2018, 06:52 PM
While I enjoy the queens sculpt and the environment, I’m a bit disappointed that the warrior aliens are a bit shy in size and the facehuggers are flush against the eggs.

SDguy
03-28-2018, 07:40 PM
Interesting read:
https://io9.gizmodo.com/aliens-original-sfx-artists-helped-sideshow-create-the-1823992879

I think people have complained about the number of "vertebrae" in the tail as being not movie accurate. I wonder if this explains that...

"The miniature’s legs and tail were missing, but Mahan and Rosengrant were able to help Sideshow’s artists recreate those parts from memory, and by studying stills from the movie."

tonytiger
03-28-2018, 09:22 PM
Well if its made of 2/3 plastic like The King alien was easy Pass.:eek:

SDguy
03-29-2018, 01:19 AM
Well if its made of 2/3 plastic like The King alien was easy Pass.:eek:

:rolleyes2

tonytiger
03-29-2018, 06:37 PM
:rolleyes2

You can roll your eyes all you want but I sent that king back because for $1,000.00 + shipping..The head was made of PVC, the tail was PVC and all the drones were PVC and Paint on the drones made them look like little toys. Rather buy Action figure for $100.00, So have fun with your Queen.

https://preview.ibb.co/nt8ws7/queen.jpg (https://ibb.co/kTFLKn)

Pilky
03-29-2018, 08:25 PM
Pre-Orders for the Alien Queen Maquette will start on Thursday, April 5, 2018 between Noon – 3PM (Pacific Time)

Doctor Doom
03-29-2018, 11:10 PM
LOOKS BADASS....IM IN!

SDguy
03-30-2018, 08:22 AM
You can roll your eyes all you want but I sent that king back because for $1,000.00 + shipping..The head was made of PVC, the tail was PVC and all the drones were PVC and Paint on the drones made them look like little toys. Rather buy Action figure for $100.00, So have fun with your Queen.

https://preview.ibb.co/nt8ws7/queen.jpg (https://ibb.co/kTFLKn)

:rolleyes2

tonytiger
03-30-2018, 08:52 PM
:rolleyes2

That does it! We need to talk joker:battherapy:

NorthernLadMSP
04-03-2018, 01:31 PM
The blog is up:

https://www.sideshowtoy.com/blog/the-alien-queen-maquette-will-rule-your-aliens-collection/

$1,100. Looks like it may be mostly polystone with a PVC tail.

NorthernLadMSP
04-03-2018, 01:32 PM
https://www.sideshowtoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/aliens-alien-queen-maquette-sideshow-300267-03.jpg

https://www.sideshowtoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/aliens-alien-queen-maquette-sideshow-300267-23.jpg

SDguy
04-03-2018, 07:07 PM
She looks amazing.

prototypy
04-03-2018, 07:11 PM
PVC tail means pass to me.

DeadGhostKnight
04-03-2018, 07:30 PM
PVC tail means pass to me.

I doubt it would be able to be made in polystone and if it was it wouldn't be as defined ( the end of the tail looks to be very intricate ) and would probably be fragile as hell and would no doubt be a nightmare for shipping and breakages.

The moulds to cast that in PVC i imagine are super expensive too, PVC isn't the enemy when it's totally justified and makes total sense.

MPCanes
04-03-2018, 07:40 PM
When most people view my collection, the first question I get is how much everything weighs. When I tell them some pieces are light they say it’s probably PVC and they stop being my friend.

#statuelife

prototypy
04-03-2018, 08:52 PM
No fellas,it does not any matter with weight.it is texture.

NorthernLadMSP
04-03-2018, 08:59 PM
When most people view my collection, the first question I get is how much everything weighs. When I tell them some pieces are light they say it’s probably PVC and they stop being my friend.

#statuelife

:laugh:

eternalblue02
04-03-2018, 09:08 PM
I doubt it would be able to be made in polystone and if it was it wouldn't be as defined ( the end of the tail looks to be very intricate ) and would probably be fragile as hell and would no doubt be a nightmare for shipping and breakages.

The moulds to cast that in PVC i imagine are super expensive too, PVC isn't the enemy when it's totally justified and makes total sense.

I'm not sure what my Palisades Queen tail is made out of but it was a nightmare removing it from the styrofoam. Took me 15 minutes to remove it from 2 pieces of wood and heavy duty clamps swearing all the way. When I was looking for the statue quite a few sellers had broken tails and teeth.

Chrisrex82
04-03-2018, 09:42 PM
Day one pre order for me

Python
04-04-2018, 03:15 AM
I'm pretty anti PVC myself in terms of whole statues being made of the stuff at these prices. HOWEVER, it has legitimate uses and always will. The tail on this will be very fragile if made out of polystone, so as long as they manage to match the look and texture of the tail and the rest of it (assuming the rest is of a different material) I don't mind at all that it's made from plastic.

xpl0sive
04-04-2018, 05:13 AM
The description doesn't state PVC at all. It is referred yo as a 'polystone maquette' in the blog description. Even if the tail was PVC, who cares? Once its all painted up and put together you won't even know.

Xenoburger
04-04-2018, 05:27 AM
Looks amazing, I can't wait to get this!

Made by Sideshow

Oh, right. Nevermind.

Python
04-04-2018, 05:41 AM
The description doesn't state PVC at all. It is referred yo as a 'polystone maquette' in the blog description. Even if the tail was PVC, who cares? Once its all painted up and put together you won't even know.


Just for the record.

"The massive Xenomorph’s body is sculpted in the same biomechanical style for which H.R. Giger’s creatures are famous, with sinewy limbs and a segmented PVC tail curling protectively around her hellish offspring."

Dirt Torpedo
04-04-2018, 07:07 AM
Waiting for inhand pics before I'll consider buying it.

xpl0sive
04-04-2018, 08:52 AM
Just for the record.

"The massive Xenomorph’s body is sculpted in the same biomechanical style for which H.R. Giger’s creatures are famous, with sinewy limbs and a segmented PVC tail curling protectively around her hellish offspring."

Woops, missed that part. Thanks Python :)

Python
04-04-2018, 09:13 AM
Waiting for inhand pics before I'll consider buying it.

I'll most likely do the same, there's an awful lot of Alien product on the way, and a lot of it is very exciting! I like this myself, although those warriors really need enlarging a bit, despite what most people believe, they were actually larger than the big chap and some even had an extra pair of ribs to make up for the added height. I can't help thinking that the king and his base etc flows a lot nicer over all. But still, this is a nice little diorama.


Woops, missed that part. Thanks Python :)

:thumbs2:

Y3E
04-04-2018, 09:22 AM
https://www.sideshowtoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/aliens-alien-queen-maquette-sideshow-300267-03.jpg

https://www.sideshowtoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/aliens-alien-queen-maquette-sideshow-300267-23.jpg

Thank goodness I don't collect Aliens because I would have ordered both of these.

Seanrm
04-04-2018, 09:52 AM
Thank goodness I don't collect Aliens because I would have ordered both of these.

I'm only a fan of the original Alien/Aliens movies, so easy to pass on the king.

Have Sideshow's original Warrior, Big Chap & Space Jockey maquettes so need this Queen!

Mr.Knight
04-04-2018, 09:54 AM
Wow looks exactly like the previous one :hilarious:

gearhead
04-04-2018, 11:01 AM
Where did that King come from? Was it in a comic book, or video game? Or did Sideshow just make it up?

Seanrm
04-04-2018, 11:15 AM
Where did that King come from? Was it in a comic book, or video game? Or did Sideshow just make it up?

Comic/book Aliens: Rogue ('90s)

Planeswalker
04-04-2018, 01:01 PM
Where did that King come from? Was it in a comic book, or video game? Or did Sideshow just make it up?

As stated above, it was in the comics and there was an action figure of a king. However when Sideshow released theirs they tried to take credit for the idea as their creation. It’s not canon by any means.

In regards to the Queen Maquette, Sideshow has lost its mind. While the piece looks attractive it’s not without its flaws. With Sideshow’s track record I’m sure there will be a host of problems come shipping from broken pieces to bad paint applications. Their asking price is a real head scratcher as they continue to hike their prices based on the products that they’re a distributor for, such as Prime 1. They are not on par with Prime 1 by any means and continue to price their pieces along side them in an effort to bate a buyer who don’t know any better.

I’ll be waiting for in hand pics.

Doctor Doom
04-04-2018, 03:17 PM
Unfortunately for that price I’m gonna wait.

SDguy
04-04-2018, 09:30 PM
Did the King have issues? I don't recall hearing about paint and breakage issues, but I didn't really follow the piece closely, TBH.

Y3E
04-05-2018, 08:29 AM
In regards to the Queen Maquette, Sideshow has lost its mind. While the piece looks attractive it’s not without its flaws. With Sideshow’s track record I’m sure there will be a host of problems come shipping from broken pieces to bad paint applications. Their asking price is a real head scratcher as they continue to hike their prices based on the products that they’re a distributor for, such as Prime 1. They are not on par with Prime 1 by any means and continue to price their pieces along side them in an effort to bate a buyer who don’t know any better.

I’ll be waiting for in hand pics.

If you're going by overall SS track record then you will be expecting this to come out really good. I know we are hearing a lot of noise about Thanos but it's usually from the same collectors and about the same thing over and over again. I get an average of 10 SS statues a year since 2011 and rarely have any issues, maybe 1 out of 10. 2 the odd time and they are taken care of

Did the King have issues? I don't recall hearing about paint and breakage issues, but I didn't really follow the piece closely, TBH.

The only thing I recall about King was the use of pvc on secondary objects around him.

Python
04-05-2018, 12:08 PM
She actually looked pretty nice in the live video yesterday and the stream also featured a very interesting making of feature. Always nice to see and hear from Anthony Mestas also who's long been one of my favorite people in the hobby and is managing this project. One thing I did take from the video however is that it's unlikely that the size (or sculpt) of the warriors will change, Anthony picked up on this with two explanations. A, the smaller warriors make the queen look more imposing, and B, the warriors need to grow to size anyway so don't have to be 8ft + which is a fair point. I'd love to buy him a beer and argue both of these lol in that the queen is the size she is, and that young Warriors should probably have their domes still attached it the theory that they are the matured versions of Gigers Alien is to be believed (that's debatable though) It boils down to they are happy with it as is. And I'm sure it will certainly make for an impressive statue.

If it goes up for P.O with an respectable ES number already established, I think I'll have to bite. If not, I'll wait and see what Prime 1 and others have to offer throughout the year.

Queen making of feature....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkLo2JAtnQY




Oh and the best bit, Anthony very tentatively teased another Alien project in conjunction with legacy, some thing that will make the fans happy. Personally I can't wait to find out what it could be :)

Python
04-05-2018, 03:29 PM
She's up, ES is TBD so I'll wait for now.

Chrisrex82
04-05-2018, 05:54 PM
Ordered

prototypy
04-05-2018, 06:38 PM
PVC and Matt Black means big ass pass to me.

Planeswalker
04-05-2018, 06:41 PM
PVC and Matt Black means big ass pass to me.

Don’t forget that they’re holding back on disclosing the weight. An $1,100.00 piece and no one could toss one on a scale for the preorder page!? Come on now. That’s a red flag...

COI
04-05-2018, 06:42 PM
Love this piece, but I'm waiting. If it comes out like the King, I'll bite.

crimsinwing1989
04-05-2018, 07:05 PM
PVC and Matt Black means big ass pass to me.:laugh:

prototypy
04-05-2018, 08:13 PM
Don’t forget that they’re holding back on disclosing the weight. An $1,100.00 piece and no one could toss one on a scale for the preorder page!? Come on now. That’s a red flag...

No,it is texture,not weight.

Seanrm
04-06-2018, 04:52 AM
If this had a Ripley + Newt as an exclusive, would probably be wait-listed by now.

BurningRage
04-06-2018, 07:37 AM
If this had a Ripley + Newt as an exclusive, would probably be wait-listed by now.

It wouldn’t if the es is not listed yet plus Sideshow actor likeness sculpts are hit or miss.

eternalblue02
04-06-2018, 01:48 PM
If this had a Ripley + Newt as an exclusive, would probably be wait-listed by now.

I wonder if that's the next project they were hinting on "the fans would like."

Josh-a-tron
04-06-2018, 03:02 PM
PVC and Matt Black means big ass pass to me.

Why do you Pass because of Matt?

BillyCurly
04-06-2018, 10:26 PM
Matt Black is one of the only good things sideshow has going on.

HARD
04-07-2018, 11:35 PM
https://www.sideshowtoy.com/collectibles/aliens-alien-queen-sideshow-collectibles-300267/

prototypy
04-09-2018, 12:18 AM
Why do you Pass because of Matt?

I am done with his sculpture.

Obi-Wan Kenobi
04-09-2018, 01:54 AM
It's not a good sculptor for you?

Atheris
04-09-2018, 09:07 AM
Is it me, or does this seem small?

Chris

hideousboi
04-09-2018, 01:34 PM
haha! love this thread. for the record, I just sculpt this stuff. im not in charge of the overall design, or production materials. just a set of hands.
love how this piece turned out. I had very minimal involvement in its development.

Josh-a-tron
04-09-2018, 01:46 PM
haha! love this thread. for the record, I just sculpt this stuff. im not in charge of the overall design, or production materials. just a set of hands.
love how this piece turned out. I had very minimal involvement in its development.

Hey man I thought it looked pretty good, just too steep for my wallet at the moment. Can't please everyone I guess.

NorthernLadMSP
04-09-2018, 02:22 PM
I love this piece as well, I just am not sure if I can personally justify the price. But, I think it's phenomenal and would be glad to own it.

Ryanbusts
04-09-2018, 03:01 PM
Looks great to me. Just comes down to affordability.

hideousboi
04-09-2018, 03:20 PM
Hey man I thought it looked pretty good, just too steep for my wallet at the moment. Can't please everyone I guess.

to true. I only provided the T pose model for the warriors. Legacy posed them all, and sculpted everything else.

Masa_yodamorph
04-09-2018, 04:04 PM
Is it me, or does this seem small?

Chris

I think around 1/12, VERY small lol. Price tag is ridiculous.

HARD
04-09-2018, 05:56 PM
Is it me, or does this seem small?

Chris

Are we talking about your package, or the statue?

HARD
04-09-2018, 05:57 PM
haha! love this thread. for the record, I just sculpt this stuff. im not in charge of the overall design, or production materials. just a set of hands.
love how this piece turned out. I had very minimal involvement in its development.

Well done, I've got to hand it to you!

prototypy
04-09-2018, 08:00 PM
It's not a good sculptor for you?

Compared with some of sculptors in SSC,no,espacially with Trevor Grove,Martin Canale and Steve Scumacher.

hideousboi
04-09-2018, 09:04 PM
Compared with some of sculptors in SSC,no,espacially with Trevor Grove,Martin Canale and Steve Scumacher.

HEY! what did i do?
you know. sculptors really only do what art directors ask for. some folks get really cool projects, other may not.

Masa_yodamorph
04-09-2018, 09:13 PM
Are we talking about your package, or the statue?

BAKA

hideousboi
04-09-2018, 09:18 PM
HEY! what did i do?
you know. sculptors really only do what art directors ask for. some folks get really cool projects, other may not.

oh! i get it now. you are, or are associated with Sosa. makes perfect sense now.....

prototypy
04-10-2018, 09:10 AM
HEY! what did i do?
you know. sculptors really only do what art directors ask for. some folks get really cool projects, other may not.

Yes,sometimes sculptor can do nothing if art director is an Ahole,but Matt Black is still not good.
And I do not like Eric Sosa's work at all.

Atheris
04-10-2018, 09:16 AM
Are we talking about your package, or the statue?

I'd expect a comment like that from a guy with your name.

Chris

statuemonger
04-10-2018, 09:21 AM
I do not want to get into a debate, just food for thought. This was from just 8, maybe 7 years ago.

https://www.sideshowtoy.com/collectibles/product-archive/?sku=9109

BillyCurly
04-10-2018, 09:33 AM
Yes,sometimes sculptor can do nothing if art director is an Ahole,but Matt Black is still not good.
And I do not like Eric Sosa's work at all.

You are not speaking facts, your speaking biased emotion, and Black is a dam fine sculptor, there is NOTHING special about Eric, he is one of a hundred different sculpters all around the same level. Matt has proven on some of his latest sculpts, he has what it takes to go places, and probably why he is getting such important pieces to sculpt over OTHER sculpters.

But to disregard a statue because YOUR favorite sculptor didnt do it is just plain mental! That would be like me saying if Bobby Causey or Steve Wang didnt sculpt something, im not buying it because there are no other good sculpters.

You got a chip on your shoulder and the stuff you are saying is just outright stupid!

BillyCurly
04-10-2018, 09:45 AM
PVC and Matt Black means big ass pass to me.

PVC, I understand why they went that route on the tail, for breakage, but everything else should be polystone.

And MATT BLACK, one of, if not the best sculptor sideshow has AT THE MOMENT! And this queen is the most accurate queen product ive ever seen, and I have a life size one, and not the terrible distortions version either. If they didnt post who the artists were, you couldnt know or tell who sculpted it. A computer could of scanned an original piece and resculped it for all you know.

The statue except the absolutely symetrical tail is perfect and for you to say your passing because you can tell Matt black sculpted this, sounds like child with a major chip on his shoulder.

FIne miss out on really one of, if not the best queen alien pieces every made, despite who sculpted it.

Im mean REALLY????:drinking:

Chrisrex82
04-10-2018, 09:46 AM
I do not want to get into a debate, just food for thought. This was from just 8, maybe 7 years ago.

https://www.sideshowtoy.com/collectibles/product-archive/?sku=9109

That logic is flawed, would you like to know how much less you could rent an apartment for in city I live in 7 to 8 years ago verses today? Over time costs go up for almost everything, movie tickets, homes, cars, cell phones, etc..

There are other factors at play too. For years folks railed against/criticized/ lamented the terrible working conditions and wages of the Chinese factory system (where these pieces have been made) over the past few years license holders, like Fox in this case, have demanded that factories in China that produce their product be held to higher health, wage, and working conditions. As such, it means that it is not as cheap to produce in China as it was a decade ago, and of course that increased cost will be passed along to the customer.

Also, as these licenses, Aliens in the case, become more and more popular the license holders are charging companies more money to secure and renew a license, that cost will of course also be passed on to the customer.

Now if you could link to a company producing a LICENSED Alien Queen in the same scale/same material for $400 today you'd have a stronger argument that Sideshow it dramatically "overcharging"

crimsinwing1989
04-10-2018, 10:08 AM
HEY! what did i do?
you know. sculptors really only do what art directors ask for. some folks get really cool projects, other may not.
:laugh: don't take it personally, prototypy is usually never satisfied with anything.

prototypy
04-10-2018, 10:22 AM
PVC, I understand why they went that route on the tail, for breakage, but everything else should be polystone.

And MATT BLACK, one of, if not the best sculptor sideshow has AT THE MOMENT! And this queen is the most accurate queen product ive ever seen, and I have a life size one, and not the terrible distortions version either. If they didnt post who the artists were, you couldnt know or tell who sculpted it. A computer could of scanned an original piece and resculped it for all you know.

The statue except the absolutely symetrical tail is perfect and for you to say your passing because you can tell Matt black sculpted this, sounds like child with a major chip on his shoulder.

FIne miss out on really one of, if not the best queen alien pieces every made, despite who sculpted it.

Im mean REALLY????:drinking:

The accuracy of this maquette is guaranteed by Legacy,not Matthew.

Josh-a-tron
04-10-2018, 10:29 AM
HEY! what did i do?
you know. sculptors really only do what art directors ask for. some folks get really cool projects, other may not.

Oh come on, you know you get some of the cool stuff :p

oh! i get it now. you are, or are associated with Sosa. makes perfect sense now.....

..Do I sense some sort of beef there?

Yes,sometimes sculptor can do nothing if art director is an Ahole,but Matt Black is still not good.
And I do not like Eric Sosa's work at all.

...you do realize you are talking to Matt?

The accuracy of this maquette is by Legacy.


Up until a minute ago, when he said all he did was sculpt the Soldier aliens, you were blaming him for the statue...now it's Accurate because it's Legacy?

Sounds like there is some bias there...

prototypy
04-10-2018, 10:46 AM
You are not speaking facts, your speaking biased emotion, and Black is a dam fine sculptor, there is NOTHING special about Eric, he is one of a hundred different sculpters all around the same level. Matt has proven on some of his latest sculpts, he has what it takes to go places, and probably why he is getting such important pieces to sculpt over OTHER sculpters.

But to disregard a statue because YOUR favorite sculptor didnt do it is just plain mental! That would be like me saying if Bobby Causey or Steve Wang didnt sculpt something, im not buying it because there are no other good sculpters.

You got a chip on your shoulder and the stuff you are saying is just outright stupid!

I have few of Matt's statue and many product by SSC,pretty sure Matt is not good.

prototypy
04-10-2018, 10:56 AM
Oh come on, you know you get some of the cool stuff :p



..Do I sense some sort of beef there?



...you do realize you are talking to Matt?




Up until a minute ago, when he said all he did was sculpt the Soldier aliens, you were blaming him for the statue...now it's Accurate because it's Legacy?

Sounds like there is some bias there...

There is no bias,I am a Alien fan for decades,I know what is good or bad.
This piece is not 100% accurate,but it is Legacy prop scan that made it close.

prototypy
04-10-2018, 11:06 AM
:laugh: don't take it personally, prototypy is usually never satisfied with anything.
There is misunderstanding I explained before .

crimsinwing1989
04-10-2018, 11:09 AM
There is misunderstanding I explained before .
No, I remember.:thumbs2:

crimsinwing1989
04-10-2018, 11:14 AM
Up until a minute ago, when he said all he did was sculpt the Soldier aliens, you were blaming him for the statue...now it's Accurate because it's Legacy?

Sounds like there is some bias there...
If its bad it is because of matt if its good its because of Legacy. Simple.:)

Josh-a-tron
04-10-2018, 11:20 AM
If its bad it is because of matt if its good its because of Legacy. Simple.:)

I'll let him know it's a no-win situation ;)

statuemonger
04-10-2018, 11:57 AM
That logic is flawed, would you like to know how much less you could rent an apartment for in city I live in 7 to 8 years ago verses today? Over time costs go up for almost everything, movie tickets, homes, cars, cell phones, etc..

There are other factors at play too. For years folks railed against/criticized/ lamented the terrible working conditions and wages of the Chinese factory system (where these pieces have been made) over the past few years license holders, like Fox in this case, have demanded that factories in China that produce their product be held to higher health, wage, and working conditions. As such, it means that it is not as cheap to produce in China as it was a decade ago, and of course that increased cost will be passed along to the customer.

Also, as these licenses, Aliens in the case, become more and more popular the license holders are charging companies more money to secure and renew a license, that cost will of course also be passed on to the customer.

Now if you could link to a company producing a LICENSED Alien Queen in the same scale/same material for $400 today you'd have a stronger argument that Sideshow it dramatically "overcharging"

Rent which is based on the housing market only is totally different than a manufactured item like a statue, false equivalency.

The rest of what you say is mere conjecture. Manufacturing for nearly all products have not gone up 3 - 4 fold over the last 7 - 8 years. I think you need to go look closer. I buy almost everything and anything and have for 2 decades. I literally know the majority of commodities out there and next to none have gone up or down that much unless they are inherently unstable like the housing market, or oil. Sorry but WRONG.

Chrisrex82
04-10-2018, 12:45 PM
Rent which is based on the housing market only is totally different than a manufactured item like a statue, false equivalency.

The rest of what you say is mere conjecture. Manufacturing for nearly all products have not gone up 3 - 4 fold over the last 7 - 8 years. I think you need to go look closer. I buy almost everything and anything and have for 2 decades. I literally know the majority of commodities out there and next to none have gone up or down that much unless they are inherently unstable like the housing market, or oil. Sorry but WRONG.

"Rent which is based on the housing market only is totally different than a manufactured item like a statue, false equivalency." HAHA right because a "manufactured" item isn't part of a market? Increased demand for housing=increased home prices (not false) equivalency: increased demand for "manufactured statues"= increased prices.

Best part about your post: uses the word conjecture and then states: "I buy almost everything and anything and have for 2 decades. I literally know the majority of commodities out there and next to none have gone up or down that much"

Well, I know all the BEST commodities out there, believe me. I buy SO MUCH, people can't believe how much I buy, and prices have gone up tremendously, that I can tell you. THOSE ARE THE FACTS!

prototypy
04-10-2018, 01:52 PM
I'll let him know it's a no-win situation ;)

Have seen much enough the guys like you in my nation,you won't influent me.
I feel happy with this forum cuz the artists can find people's feeling about their sculpture,whatever positive or negative.As a statue collector,I know what I am saying,I am responsible for every words I inserted in this forum.
And I will insist on my mind.

hideousboi
04-10-2018, 01:54 PM
Have seen much enough the guys like you in my nation,you won't influent me.
I feel happy with this forum cuz the artists can find people's feeling about their sculpture,whatever positive or negative.As a statue collector,I know what I am saying,I am responsible for every words I inserted in this forum.
And I will insist on my mind.

some one has a secret crush on me....
I agree, that matt guy is terrible. he is always borrowing my clothes, and kissing my wife..
he must be stopped!!!

prototypy
04-10-2018, 02:07 PM
some one has a secret crush on me....
I agree, that matt guy is terrible. he is always borrowing my clothes, and kissing my wife..
he must be stopped!!!

I saw your artist profile,you looks pretty cool.But you have seen my point,nothing personal,it is my opinion as a statue player.

crimsinwing1989
04-10-2018, 02:26 PM
Have seen much enough the guys like you in my nation,you won't influent me.
I feel happy with this forum cuz the artists can find people's feeling about their sculpture,whatever positive or negative.As a statue collector,I know what I am saying,I am responsible for every words I inserted in this forum.
And I will insist on my mind.
All in good fun, i enjoy your posts because you always give your blatantly honest opinion.:)

hideousboi
04-10-2018, 02:38 PM
I saw your artist profile,you looks pretty cool.But you have seen my point,nothing personal,it is my opinion as a statue player.

of course man. to each their own. im fortunate to have such a fun, and enjoyable job.

Josh-a-tron
04-10-2018, 02:44 PM
Have seen much enough the guys like you in my nation,you won't influent me.
I feel happy with this forum cuz the artists can find people's feeling about their sculpture,whatever positive or negative.As a statue collector,I know what I am saying,I am responsible for every words I inserted in this forum.
And I will insist on my mind.

Uh....I wasn't trying to influence you, that wasn't even directed at you...but okay. Enjoy!

Ryanbusts
04-10-2018, 03:33 PM
These are the reasons I don’t care who sculpts what. I like what I like. Sometimes an artist has little to no control of thier work. That being said, every sculptor is an artist and every artist is talented in one way or another. To zero an artist out because of some of their work you have seen is ridiculous. Critism is fine but there is a difference between that and a personal boycott.
I’m all for giving it to the SS reps but the artists are just trying to do the best they can with the given tools. Tools even being an art team ;)

Josh-a-tron
04-10-2018, 04:03 PM
These are the reasons I don’t care who sculpts what. I like what I like. Sometimes an artist has little to no control of thier work. That being said, every sculptor is an artist and every artist is talented in one way or another. To zero an artist out because of some of their work you have seen is ridiculous. Critism is fine but there is a difference between that and a personal boycott.
I’m all for giving it to the SS reps but the artists are just trying to do the best they can with the given tools. Tools even being an art team ;)

Well some of them might be tools, I wouldn't know ;)

statuemonger
04-10-2018, 04:25 PM
"Rent which is based on the housing market only is totally different than a manufactured item like a statue, false equivalency." HAHA right because a "manufactured" item isn't part of a market? Increased demand for housing=increased home prices (not false) equivalency: increased demand for "manufactured statues"= increased prices.

Best part about your post: uses the word conjecture and then states: "I buy almost everything and anything and have for 2 decades. I literally know the majority of commodities out there and next to none have gone up or down that much"

Well, I know all the BEST commodities out there, believe me. I buy SO MUCH, people can't believe how much I buy, and prices have gone up tremendously, that I can tell you. THOSE ARE THE FACTS!

You cannot compare unlike markets, manufacturing does not align with housing markets, oil markets, precious metal markets and so on. Unless they are directly influenced by said markets, such as housing being impacted directly and completely by oil prices, or manufacturing prices. In fact manufacturing costs always get reduced as time and technology move ahead unless the product is once again linked to some volatile commodity that drives most if not all of the cost.

You cannot cross compare differing market types period. Manufacturing and construction are very different animals whether you like it or not.

I have been a government/private subcontract administrator/analyst for 2 decades, so I really do and have bought just about every service and commodity out there, but you can have your little jokes, no worries.

Indomitus
04-11-2018, 03:55 PM
Woah-ho-ho! Yours for only $1,100? Awesome the amount of detail and collaboration that went into this. But seriously? :eek: Over a G? Go get that loan and get yours today!! :tumblew:

https://www.sideshowtoy.com/assets/products/300267-alien-queen/lg/aliens-alien-queen-maquette-sideshow-300267-03.jpg

Eky
04-11-2018, 10:35 PM
The king is 999$ 1500ES and almost sold out,

so how could we expect less than 1G for the queen ?

BillyCurly
04-11-2018, 11:15 PM
These statues are worth half these prices. This is a price I would expect from prime 1, and sideshow is no prime one. This is the best piece tho from sideshow team in a LONG time, but they had Legacys help so its not completely a sideshow piece. But Black did a great job sculpting. He did an awesome skeletor, and a awesome mummra and now this. He is on a roll.

HARD
04-12-2018, 12:13 AM
Woah-ho-ho! Yours for only $1,100? Awesome the amount of detail and collaboration that went into this. But seriously? :eek: Over a G? Go get that loan and get yours today!! :tumblew:



https://i.imgur.com/GcHafql.gif

Indomitus
04-12-2018, 02:46 PM
https://i.imgur.com/GcHafql.gif

https://media0.giphy.com/media/3ornjSExjtUXRXY784/giphy.gif

Python
04-26-2018, 01:16 PM
Anything new for Alien day this year? Maybe a (cough*) Dog Alien LSB?

oddlysober
04-26-2018, 04:47 PM
Perhaps the price is higher due to Legacy's involvement. The prototype is nice looking. I just hope the end product will come close to justify the high price tag.

NorthernLadMSP
04-26-2018, 04:54 PM
The glass half full aspect of this is that this piece is going to look like a steal once Prime 1 reveal's the price on their new Alien Queen they just teased today :D

BurningRage
08-15-2018, 08:30 AM
1250 es

eternalblue02
04-29-2019, 05:47 PM
The Queen arrives in eight days. Final payment is being taken May 7th. I'll post pictures when I get her.

Python
05-15-2019, 10:24 AM
A nice video review of this can be found here. It's pretty much as expected.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlq3LH4vXf0

prototypy
05-15-2019, 10:43 AM
I will have it. Alien Queen is must have imo and I will forget who sculpted it.

leplant
05-15-2019, 11:51 AM
A nice video review of this can be found here. It's pretty much as expected.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlq3LH4vXf0

Thanks for providing the link. After watching the video, I’m going to wait and see what Prime 1 does with theirs before I make any decisions.

eternalblue02
05-15-2019, 04:45 PM
Just got her majesty in. I'll defer my opinion to the guy in the video above in agreement with most of his points. I had no breakage, will have to use the blow dryer on two of the back spines to straighten them. Have no idea how this made it to me in one piece the way it sits in the styrofoam. Tail and many of the more breakable kibble pieces are indeed made of plastic/PVC. Had no issues slotting the tail.

I personally like it. You can never have too many aliens. I have the Palisades Queen, avoided the SS Dio Queen because of the base and aftermarket price and got screwed by Matrix Studios with their Queen. I am definitely in the P1 wait and see camp and if you have any reservations on this purchase follow that instinct. It's a stunner but not something you'll kick yourself if you can't bring yourself to buy atm. Any questions or concerns by all means ask.

SDguy
05-15-2019, 05:49 PM
I am trying to understand the review.... is she just not glossy enough? I can't really tell the difference between her leg and her "crown", paint wise, in the review, other than gloss. I have the Alien King and he is very darn glossy.

eternalblue02
05-15-2019, 07:08 PM
I am trying to understand the review.... is she just not glossy enough? I can't really tell the difference between her leg and her "crown", paint wise, in the review, other than gloss. I have the Alien King and he is very darn glossy.

She's not as glossy as the king. She's got some parts on her that look flat but have that bug carapace sheen to them. I'm guessing he thought they would just copy/paste the same idea to her as they did the king. I think she looks fine in that department. The gloss is used where it should be (eggs, Facehuggers, chitin on the floor) and not over done.

leplant
05-15-2019, 07:41 PM
Just got her majesty in. I'll defer my opinion to the guy in the video above in agreement with most of his points. I had no breakage, will have to use the blow dryer on two of the back spines to straighten them. Have no idea how this made it to me in one piece the way it sits in the styrofoam. Tail and many of the more breakable kibble pieces are indeed made of plastic/PVC. Had no issues slotting the tail.

I personally like it. You can never have too many aliens. I have the Palisades Queen, avoided the SS Dio Queen because of the base and aftermarket price and got screwed by Matrix Studios with their Queen. I am definitely in the P1 wait and see camp and if you have any reservations on this purchase follow that instinct. It's a stunner but not something you'll kick yourself if you can't bring yourself to buy atm. Any questions or concerns by all means ask.

If you don’t mind, could you provide some more info on the Matrix Studios Queen? I didn’t know there was an issue with that one

SDguy
05-16-2019, 09:53 AM
She's not as glossy as the king. She's got some parts on her that look flat but have that bug carapace sheen to them. I'm guessing he thought they would just copy/paste the same idea to her as they did the king. I think she looks fine in that department. The gloss is used where it should be (eggs, Facehuggers, chitin on the floor) and not over done.

Thanks for the clarification

jinkazama
05-16-2019, 02:17 PM
Anyone who already has the Alien King and is getting the Alien Queen should post pics with the 2 side by side, which would make an EPIC display....:thumbs2:

SDguy
05-16-2019, 03:01 PM
Anyone who already has the Alien King and is getting the Alien Queen should post pics with the 2 side by side, which would make an EPIC display....:thumbs2:

That's the plan! :D

jinkazama
05-16-2019, 03:32 PM
That's the plan! :D
:thumbs2:

eternalblue02
05-16-2019, 04:59 PM
If you don’t mind, could you provide some more info on the Matrix Studios Queen? I didn’t know there was an issue with that one

So this all started when I bought the Matrix Shockwave through Secret Compass. It came with 5 minor broken pieces that I had no problem fixing because the only alternative was shipping the statue back to Asia on my dime. SC was nice enough to give me a credit. Done deal & happy.

Then Matrix showed off their WoW movie statue and DOTM Dino. I lost interest in the WoW statue when I couldn't find a reputable dealer and PO'ed Dino through SC again. At this time Matrix showed off their unlicensed Queen and PO'ed it from SC. All PO's were around $500 each. So a year goes by with no new US info on Dino and Queen. I could see they were getting the first batches out to Asia and surrounding areas first through Facebook. I contact SC to see what's up and they tell me theyre negotiating a shipping deal with Matrix to get their PO's over here. An entire year later I had been getting the same answers from SC. So two years in, no Dino, no Queen same response. I go check on Facebook and the whole sites being burned down with drama. Things like Matrix didn't make enough Dino's and Queens and shipped them everywhere but the US/EU/CA. The Queens have quality control issues up the wazoo. Some Queen heads had mold issues where there were noticeable holes and gaps in the material used for them. Leaning issues with the Queen, etc. I actually saw one fall forward and go splat.

Two and a half years still no info just the shipping response so I just asked for a refund which needed a little prodding on my part with SC. All in all a bad experience. AND... my Matrix Shockwave has parts that randomly fall off because the glue they used was cheap. I feel like a mamma bird with it.

If you look hard enough, there are videos and write-ups on the drama with the company. Here is the Facebook page. They haven't posted anything since March 2018. Just read peoples comments you'll get the gist of it. This was my experience, I'm sure some folks had a different experience. Me personally I'd stay far away.

https://www.facebook.com/MatrixsStudio/

Thanks for the clarification

No problem. If you have any others questions ask away. I really want to get the King but keep telling myself to focus on the first two movies. :p

BurningRage
05-16-2019, 09:12 PM
Anyone who already has the Alien King and is getting the Alien Queen should post pics with the 2 side by side, which would make an EPIC display....:thumbs2:

Someone did on FB

jinkazama
05-17-2019, 02:41 AM
Someone did on FB
Are you able to provide a link to that facebook page?

BurningRage
05-17-2019, 06:16 AM
Are you able to provide a link to that facebook page?

Just one pic they had.

jinkazama
05-17-2019, 07:35 AM
Just one pic they had.
Thanks! :thumbs2:

SDguy
08-04-2019, 03:24 PM
I used all my SS points on this piece, and have zero regrets. Really beautiful.

http://www.statueforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=124957&d=1564946407

http://www.statueforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=124958&d=1564946407

http://www.statueforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=124959&d=1564946407

http://www.statueforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=124960&d=1564946407

http://www.statueforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=124961&d=1564946407

http://www.statueforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=124962&d=1564946407

http://www.statueforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=124963&d=1564946407

http://www.statueforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=124964&d=1564946407

http://www.statueforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=124965&d=1564946407

Amazing Peter
08-04-2019, 04:45 PM
Looks dope congrats

Divo
08-05-2019, 08:48 AM
Looks wicked cool!

jfyahui
08-07-2019, 04:31 PM
Looks great,

eternalblue02
08-07-2019, 06:58 PM
You did a great job there with the photos SD. You captured her colors well. Also glad to see I'm not the only one who picked her up. :)

DroidAssassin
08-08-2019, 06:02 PM
Really looking forward to this piece. I picked mine up from Popcultcha Australia. Thought i was going to be adding her to the collection shortly, but just received a delayed notice until 31 Oct!

eternalblue02
08-08-2019, 06:19 PM
Really looking forward to this piece. I picked mine up from Popcultcha Australia. Thought i was going to be adding her to the collection shortly, but just received a delayed notice until 31 Oct!

:doh!:

Rom-El
08-08-2019, 08:14 PM
Wonderful specimen.

darren1228
08-08-2019, 11:06 PM
Man that looks good! Thank you for the pics.

http://www.statueforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=124958&d=1564946407

SDguy
08-10-2019, 02:58 PM
Thanks all. Yes, I love the way they painted her, especially her head. To anyone that owns this piece, how did the tail key fit for you? I had a REALLY hard time getting it in.

eternalblue02
08-10-2019, 11:46 PM
Thanks all. Yes, I love the way they painted her, especially her head. To anyone that owns this piece, how did the tail key fit for you? I had a REALLY hard time getting it in.

Mine went right in. I had to insert the tail at an angle and it clipped right in. When I sold my Palisades Queen I have no idea how I got her tail out without breaking the whole statue, it was just stuck. This was a welcome change.

SDguy
08-12-2019, 07:52 PM
Mine went right in. I had to insert the tail at an angle and it clipped right in. When I sold my Palisades Queen I have no idea how I got her tail out without breaking the whole statue, it was just stuck. This was a welcome change.

Thanks for the info.

SDguy
08-19-2019, 09:11 PM
A few pics of the royal couple....

http://www.statueforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=125167&stc=1&d=1566306705

http://www.statueforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=125168&stc=1&d=1566306705

http://www.statueforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=125169&stc=1&d=1566306705

http://www.statueforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=125170&stc=1&d=1566306705

http://www.statueforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=125171&stc=1&d=1566306705

http://www.statueforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=125172&stc=1&d=1566306705

http://www.statueforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=125173&stc=1&d=1566306705

http://www.statueforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=125174&stc=1&d=1566306705

V4XCollect
08-19-2019, 11:18 PM
Oh... together that is pretty cool...

eternalblue02
08-20-2019, 07:45 AM
A few pics of the royal couple....

They look great together. The Queen is seriously underrated. Hopefully SS does a flamethrower Ripley holding Newt or a new Powerloader piece to fix the derpy old one down the road.

SDguy
08-20-2019, 09:15 AM
Thanks, I really love the different paints they used on them.

eternalblue02
08-20-2019, 12:06 PM
Agreed. I bet you're glad you asked a few months back about her crest coloring. ;) I don't have the King (still debating it) but I'm glad they took different approaches with the app and how they used the gloss for both.

Btw were you surprised by how they packed her so safely being one whole piece? I was wowed mine came without damage from all the hollow sections inside the clamshell and how everything just rested perfectly. Palisades Queen had these wooden rods you need to tie pieces down and overlap other pieces inside its styrofoam. Packing's definitely come a long way.

SDguy
08-20-2019, 12:14 PM
Agreed. I bet you're glad you asked a few months back about her crest coloring. ;) I don't have the King (still debating it) but I'm glad they took different approaches with the app and how they used the gloss for both.

Btw were you surprised by how they packed her so safely being one whole piece? I was wowed mine came without damage from all the hollow sections inside the clamshell and how everything just rested perfectly. Palisades Queen had these wooden rods you need to tie pieces down and overlap other pieces inside its styrofoam. Packing's definitely come a long way.

Yes!!

I guess I wasn't as surprised, since I got the King first, and he came the same way. Yeah, I was happy the spikes on Queen's back were nice and straight....

Kefka2200
08-20-2019, 07:15 PM
They look awesome! The Alien Queen is my all-time favorite movie monster. I want one of these, but I have a lot of money wrapped up already lol. I like the king, but he feels a little too crazy for me.

SDguy
08-22-2019, 12:34 PM
They look awesome! The Alien Queen is my all-time favorite movie monster. I want one of these, but I have a lot of money wrapped up already lol. I like the king, but he feels a little too crazy for me.

Yeah, you have to be a bit open minded with the Kind :-)

I actually used all my SS points on Queen, so it wasn't too harsh.

Kefka2200
08-23-2019, 08:22 AM
I like him, I did want him when he was previewed, but I think I’ll stick to actual monsters from movies haha. Plus the queen is where it’s at

MATthemes
09-24-2019, 03:10 AM
Can someone please confirm if this one fit in a Besta unit with closed Tombo doors?

Vader
02-22-2020, 11:54 AM
anyone know how this compares to the neca alien queen figure??

eternalblue02
02-22-2020, 02:01 PM
anyone know how this compares to the neca alien queen figure??

Not sure how you want it compared. One's an articulated figure the other is a single pose statue. :D

I've seen the neca piece and it's ok for what it is. I don't collect Hot Toys-ish pieces so I'm going to sound biased. The SS queen is a nice piece. The sculpt, paint and base are top notch. The Queens paint app is the standout of the piece. There are a few negatives that I've seen mentioned. The price could be a couple hundred bucks less and there are twice as many vertebra in her tail than other pieces released i.e. the SS Queen/Powerloader dio and the old Palisades Queen which I owned and still think is the best Queen out there. I recall some people mentioning a kit or something of the original queen mold floating around in collector circles but that you'd have to look into or ask someone more knowledgeable.

There's also the unlicensed Matrix Studios Queen turd and P1's comic version (just shown) which I found very underwhelming. If you go back a few pages I have a small write up and pictures on the SS Queen.

Vader
02-26-2020, 01:10 PM
the matrix is based on the original puppet.

I was just wondering if this is similar in size/scale to the neca alien queen.

eternalblue02
02-26-2020, 05:08 PM
I was just wondering if this is similar in size/scale to the neca alien queen.

Neca Queen is 15" H x 30" L

SS Queen is Height: 19" x Width: 22" x Depth: 13" keep in mind this includes the base which is very angular.

Vader
03-21-2020, 03:11 PM
Just got her majesty in. I'll defer my opinion to the guy in the video above in agreement with most of his points. I had no breakage, will have to use the blow dryer on two of the back spines to straighten them. Have no idea how this made it to me in one piece the way it sits in the styrofoam. Tail and many of the more breakable kibble pieces are indeed made of plastic/PVC. Had no issues slotting the tail.

I personally like it. You can never have too many aliens. I have the Palisades Queen, avoided the SS Dio Queen because of the base and aftermarket price and got screwed by Matrix Studios with their Queen. I am definitely in the P1 wait and see camp and if you have any reservations on this purchase follow that instinct. It's a stunner but not something you'll kick yourself if you can't bring yourself to buy atm. Any questions or concerns by all means ask.

How does this piece scale with the other alien statues 1/3 versions?? does it look worth its price?

eternalblue02
03-22-2020, 10:24 AM
How does this piece scale with the other alien statues 1/3 versions?? does it look worth its price?

The P1 pieces are in a league of their own and will dwarf this piece. I don't own any of them but from the pictures I see posted here there would be a noticeable difference. XM Alien will dwarf this as well. This piece is more on par with the SS Queen Powerloader dio and the Palisades Queen. The base is obviously bigger on this then those two but the Queen herself is about the same.

I held out hope that P1's Queen would be "the" Queen to get. It's a comic version and still needs some work. The support rod bothers me. SS's has a phenomenal paint app. No pictures do it justice. The base is fine. You get some royal guards, eggs & facehuggies and alien chitin. It works. She also doesn't need a rod to hold her up. She comes in one big piece already attached to the base and you just put her tail and spines into slots. I commend SS for figuring out her packing. I personally think she's worth the money. I also agree with people here she should be a couple hundred dollars cheaper. It comes down to how bad you want to add a Queen in your library that won't take up space and aside from the extra tail segments represents her pretty well. She will be notably smaller then some of the old guard SS aliens like their Big Chap and the Warrior. Use the SS Alien King, Power dio and Palisades to go by size.

Vader
03-22-2020, 07:03 PM
So she's as small as the old palisades queen dio? that's pretty small for the price.

El Diablo
03-22-2020, 07:18 PM
Not sure how you want it compared. One's an articulated figure the other is a single pose statue. :D

I've seen the neca piece and it's ok for what it is. I don't collect Hot Toys-ish pieces so I'm going to sound biased. The SS queen is a nice piece. The sculpt, paint and base are top notch. The Queens paint app is the standout of the piece. There are a few negatives that I've seen mentioned. The price could be a couple hundred bucks less and there are twice as many vertebra in her tail than other pieces released i.e. the SS Queen/Powerloader dio and the old Palisades Queen which I owned and still think is the best Queen out there. I recall some people mentioning a kit or something of the original queen mold floating around in collector circles but that you'd have to look into or ask someone more knowledgeable.

There's also the unlicensed Matrix Studios Queen turd and P1's comic version (just shown) which I found very underwhelming. If you go back a few pages I have a small write up and pictures on the SS Queen.

The palisades queen was bad, soft sculpt details and completely wrong colours. The matrix queen is by far the most definitive queen released and far from being a ‘turd’, the finished piece is great quality all round and being so closely related to the queen maquette used in the film, accuracy isn’t an issue. Only negative is it was unlicensed (if that bothers you)
The tail on the SS piece is a glaring error I’m surprised it wasn’t picked up at the proto stage!