Court of the Dead 9" Prestige Statuettes

[EnShinNoi]

I know, I know, stop creating CotD related threads EnShinNoi, you're crowding the forum. But hear me out :p

I've created a separate thread because I'm sensing great excitement around this 9" line and it is only going to get larger from here on.

Up until Sideshow reveal their exorbitant prices and it all comes crashing down lol.

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[EnShinNoi]

The Prestige Statuettes were developed with the renowned design studio Pure Arts. Founded in 2008 by Hugues Martel, Pure Arts is known for its Assassin’s Creed and Mortal Kombat collectible figures.

“At this smaller scale, we are able to realize a level of detail that is as strong as our larger formats, while accommodating smaller collection spaces,” says Tom Gilliland, Sideshow Chief Creative Officer and creator of the Court of the Dead. “What we’ve designed is akin to a miniature scene. Each Prestige Statuette includes secondary characters – creatures, familiars, and foes – that bring an added dimension to each scene.”

“The storytelling ability of diminutive formats is one their most impactful traits,” he adds.

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[Thegameman2011]

I would buy these. They look good.

[EnShinNoi]

Here's a good size comparison.

https://dailydead.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/size_comparison.jpg

[crimsinwing1989]

These do look nice, wonder what the price point will be on them.

[VS1976]

Based off the overpriced size of Rocket PF, this will be $285-$300 lol

[crimsinwing1989]

lol, i'll be passing then.

[EnShinNoi]

Gimli by Weta was $125. It's polystone, open edition and 6.69" W x 4.33" H x 4.72" D.

That's why I'm guessing $130.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/923/Y2zZVt.jpg

[Comicbookguy]

Based off the overpriced size of Rocket PF, this will be $285-$300 lol

Insane if this is true. Should be 100.00 max being generous imo.

[Medusoid]

I'm hoping that they're $130-$150 at the absolute most. I really like the Kier statue.

[Josh-a-tron]

Insane if this is true. Should be 100.00 max being generous imo.

Not really, Go look at Iron Studios 1/10th scales with the same detail and detailed bases. They go for between $130 and $160. Without the detailed bases they are $115.

[crimsinwing1989]

Gimli by Weta was $125. It's polystone, open edition and 6.69" W x 4.33" H x 4.72" D.

That's why I'm guessing $130.

Not really, Go look at Iron Studios 1/10th scales with the same detail and detailed bases. They go for between $130 and $160. Without the detailed bases they are $115.

Those numbers are more reasonable i suppose, though i was hoping for a 80-120 range.

[Josh-a-tron]

Those numbers are more reasonable i suppose, though i was hoping for a 80-120 range.


Unfortunately the only company I know making 1/10th scale statues at that price is DCC with their Batman Black and White, Superman man of Steel, Wonder Woman Art of War and Harley Quinn Black White and Red statues.

[Remember Me?]

Please make them in dynamic pose....so far those poses are boring. I expect something like the new Shard or Kier.

[Monocle]

I agree. I see these as an open conversation though, down the line they could do so much with different materials and make more dynamic poses, translucent vibrant textures, etc.

[EnShinNoi]

They'll be PVC. Susan said so on Sideshow live.

[Josh-a-tron]

They'll be PVC. Susan said so on Sideshow live.

That could make them cheaper, like Koto 1/10ths, but only if they make them in large QTY

[adee]

Less interested in PVC. Maybe it's for the best.

[dechirico7]

Unfortunately the only company I know making 1/10th scale statues at that price is DCC with their Batman Black and White, Superman man of Steel, Wonder Woman Art of War and Harley Quinn Black White and Red statues.

Aren't these close to bishoujo scale?
They should be comparable in price. Pvc...

I am excited for these. I think they will be fun and bring other markets into collecting the COTD.
I am not a big fan of either Kier PFS. I actually like this one more, with her dragging the angel. I love the Xiall pF, but $600!!!!! I will settle for this one.

[Josh-a-tron]

Aren't these close to bishoujo scale?
They should be comparable in price. Pvc...

I am excited for these. I think they will be fun and bring other markets into collecting the COTD.
I am not a big fan of either Kier PFS. I actually like this one more, with her dragging the angel. I love the Xiall pF, but $600!!!!! I will settle for this one.

Isn't Bishoujo 1/7th?

It'd probably be more like ArtFX+ but these look more detailed than both.

[COI]

Less interested in PVC. Maybe it's for the best.

Agree and agree.

My girlfriend got me a Bishoujo several months ago, which was my first PVC statue, and the look and feel just doesn't do it for me. PVC has this subtle sheen to it that I just don't like. People who say you can't see the difference between PVC and polystone are out to lunch.

[dechirico7]

Agree and agree.

My girlfriend got me a Bishoujo several months ago, which was my first PVC statue, and the look and feel just doesn't do it for me. PVC has this subtle sheen to it that I just don't like. People who say you can't see the difference between PVC and polystone are out to lunch.

I like the smooth quality and detail in pvc pieces. Love bishoujos. Koto has achieved quite a few finishes on their bishoujos. They have done just about all finishes ranging from super matte to high gloss. I think they mix up their finishes quite a bit more than other companies.

[dechirico7]

Isn't Bishoujo 1/7th?

It'd probably be more like ArtFX+ but these look more detailed than both.

Aren't bishoujos 9 inches tall?
I am confused.

Have you guys seen the horror bishoujos? They are extremely detailed.
I hope these pieces are comparable.
If these end up looking like blobby Gumby figures.....no.

[Josh-a-tron]

Aren't bishoujos 9 inches tall?
I am confused.

Have you guys seen the horror bishoujos? They are extremely detailed.
I hope these pieces are comparable.
If these end up looking like blobby Gumby figures.....no.

I have seen them and they don't hold a candle to these that they've shown.

[COI]

Aren't bishoujos 9 inches tall?
I am confused.

Have you guys seen the horror bishoujos? They are extremely detailed.
I hope these pieces are comparable.
If these end up looking like blobby Gumby figures.....no.

I like Scissorhands. Almost bought it a couple of times.

The price is right on those things.

[dechirico7]

I have seen them and they don't hold a candle to these that they've shown.

The horror bishoujos don't compare to the prestige statues?

[dechirico7]

I like Scissorhands. Almost bought it a couple of times.

The price is right on those things.

They are getting high priced too. But what I like about them, is that I can wait a couple months for them to drop in price. I can get them for about $35 shipped.

I think they are progressing well. The Thor and Loki pieces are great. PVC gets a bad rep due to past pieces by other companies. I think companies are more aware of its issues now. Look at Yamato DC pieces, their new PVC editions look pretty close to the statues.

[Josh-a-tron]

The horror bishoujos don't compare to the prestige statues?

In my opinion, no

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[COI]

They're a totally different art style, so it's apples to oranges IMO.

[Josh-a-tron]

They're a totally different art style, so it's apples to oranges IMO.

Yes, but we're comparing the amount of detail in each statue. So apples to oranges or not, one line definitely has more detail in it.

[johnclone]

In my opinion, no

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I think it's easy to guess which side would win in a fight. lol

[dechirico7]

Yes, but we're comparing the amount of detail in each statue. So apples to oranges or not, one line definitely has more detail in it.

Well, it depends on the character too.
You can't really put anymore detail into Freddy and Jason. I think if Koto did fantasy characters they could easily match the cotd pieces.we will see when they are in hand.

[VS1976]

If these are plastic....probably $130-$140 range

[Remember Me?]

PVC? No thanks!

[Planeswalker]

These will no doubt run at the old school PF price. I expect no less than $250.

[Silas Loki]

Yes, but we're comparing the amount of detail in each statue. So apples to oranges or not, one line definitely has more detail in it.

Sorry to rattle a well worn sword, but, what you see advertised from Koto in PVC is usually what you get. I don't trust SS with PVC, and especially with these intricate pieces.....

[Josh-a-tron]

Sorry to rattle a well worn sword, but, what you see advertised from Koto in PVC is usually what you get. I don't trust SS with PVC, and especially with these intricate pieces.....

Why not? Parts of skeletor were intricately sculpted and cast pvc and it came out gorgeous

[dechirico7]

These will no doubt run at the old school PF price. I expect no less than $250.

No way. These are way too small to hit anything over $200.

[Josh-a-tron]

No way. These are way too small to hit anything over $200.

I agree, anything over $200 for 9" ststues would excessive hell even hitting $200 might be excessive

[loricstone]

I would think something like this would run in the $129.99 - $179.99 range depending on character and complexity and size

[gomur]

No way. These are way too small to hit anything over $200.

I would expect the same. But SS is always exceeding expectation.... :(

Maybe $199 to start. And then $249 in 9 months.

[oddlysober]

Given how things have skyrocketed in prices, it will not surprise me at all that these will be in the $200 range.

[dechirico7]

I won't buy them for that. Then you might as well just put the $200 towards the $475 PF.

[Josh-a-tron]

I won't buy them for that. Then you might as well just put the $200 towards the $475 PF.

Precisely, having them cost half as much at 9" defeats the purpose of a smaller cheaper scale and trying to bring people in that aren't buying the larger statues. Why pay $250 for 9" when you can pay $500 for full 1/4 scale

[COI]

I'm guessing $150-ish. $200+ for a 9" PVC figure is ludicrous.

[VS1976]

This is pvc guys. Not going to be over $150.

[adamteo]

PVC? :(

[EnShinNoi]

PVC? :(
Let's be reasonable here. If these were polystone, a sneeze could shatter them.

[Josh-a-tron]

Let's be reasonable here. If these were polystone, a sneeze could shatter them.

My Batman black and whites are polystone and they are fairly sturdy for small scale statues.

[EnShinNoi]

My Batman black and whites are polystone and they are fairly sturdy for small scale statues.
They don't have nearly as many thin parts and the surfaces are smoother.

[Josh-a-tron]

They don't have nearly as many thin parts and the surfaces are smoother.

I know what you mean but between the capes and on some of them the accessories (i.e. Frank Miller's holding polystone rope) it's still got some breakables. It could be done in polystone and hold up, but I also get the PVC route is going to cut way down on breakages.

[dechirico7]

Plastic vs plastic

There is nothing wrong with PVC.
Stop being plastic snobs.

[Josh-a-tron]

Plastic vs plastic

There is nothing wrong with PVC.
Stop being plastic snobs.

Depends on if you have a particular way you want you're statues to feel and look. PVC has a particular look and feel as does polystone. Just because they both have a plastic base doesn't mean the materials are the same.

That's like saying different alloys are the same because they share a base metal, doesn't work that way.

[ruzzell]

My guess is $180. The dark elf statue from Max Factory seems to have similar detail and was 1/5 scale, and it is about $160-170.
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[oddlysober]

The Max Factory Lineage II figures did not include a detailed base. If those can go for around $160-$170, I am inclined to believe Sideshow will charge more. Hopefully not too much more, guess we will have to wait and see.

[EnShinNoi]

Has there been any released info since SDCC?

[Nugchompa]

$425 for Spider-Gwen 1/5.

[testsubject25]

lolwut

[EnShinNoi]

$89 each. That's cheaper than most of us were expecting.

I might pick up Xiall and Kier. I don't like Gethsemoni here, she looks so plain compared to the other two. I'm a little hesitant going back to PVC figures again though. If they're not manufactured correctly, the surface can go sticky after a few years. It's happened to the leading industry giants so nobody is exempt.

https://www.sideshowtoy.com/assets/products/500065-xiall-osteomancers-vision/lg/court-of-the-dead-xiall-osteomancers-vision-figure-sideshow-500065-24.jpg

[silentwinter92]

These actually look really nice, the price caught my eye. 1/8 scales? Sticky surfaces only happen in high heat/humid environments. Most of the more premium companies use high quality pvc that doesnt suffer from this.

[EnShinNoi]

These actually look really nice, the price caught my eye. 1/8 scales? Sticky surfaces only happen in high heat/humid environments. Most of the more premium companies use high quality pvc that doesnt suffer from this.
They will eventually. Could be soon, could be in another lifetime but it will happen. The stronger the fresh plastic smell is out the box, the more likely it will happen down the track. Softer PVC is more prone. If there was a way of feeling (and smelling lol) these before purchasing, I'd be more likely to buy them.

[silentwinter92]

They will eventually. Could be soon, could be in another lifetime but it will happen. The stronger the fresh plastic smell is out the box, the more likely it will happen down the track. Softer PVC is more prone. If there was a way of feeling (and smelling lol) these before purchasing, I'd be more likely to buy them.

You might be right about this, ill let you know 5 years down the road. Gecco hasn't let me down yet.

[COI]

They will eventually. Could be soon, could be in another lifetime but it will happen. The stronger the fresh plastic smell is out the box, the more likely it will happen down the track. Softer PVC is more prone. If there was a way of feeling (and smelling lol) these before purchasing, I'd be more likely to buy them.

I think for $89 you can roll the dice.

[Doctor Doom]

Getting the Kier for sure...this character just always seem to pop!

[dechirico7]

I POed all three.
There is no NRD, so I thought, why not.
I think people are confused. I don't think PVS goes sticky, but metallic paint on PVC. That happened to a few Kotobukiya bishoujos. The metallic paint on Emma, Wonder Woman, Batgirl and possible others went sticky, and oozed finish.

[SolidLiquidFox]

I think this is the best scale for this license.

Asking $500+ for something that most people have no emotional attachment beyond a cool design was a flawed premise. At least comic characters have a backstory in the geek culture and pop culture world. Not to mention when choosing between Rogue PF and random COTD PF characters for the same price the choice is clear.

[qz33]

They will eventually. Could be soon, could be in another lifetime but it will happen. The stronger the fresh plastic smell is out the box, the more likely it will happen down the track. Softer PVC is more prone. If there was a way of feeling (and smelling lol) these before purchasing, I'd be more likely to buy them.

I POed all three.
There is no NRD, so I thought, why not.
I think people are confused. I don't think PVS goes sticky, but metallic paint on PVC. That happened to a few Kotobukiya bishoujos. The metallic paint on Emma, Wonder Woman, Batgirl and possible others went sticky, and oozed finish.

PVC picks up fine details better and when painted properly looks more realistic - See Hot Toys figures for proof

Polystone weighs more, but I dont consider weight a metric of quality.

As material cost, Polystone is more expensive than PVC mostly because its less automated and usually hand cast.

PVC requires expensive steel/copper molds , which polystone doesnt.

Polystone started to be used because it didnt require expensive steel molds. It had zero to do with 'quality' The companies using it simply couldnt afford PVC so they 'spun it' in their marketing that polystone was a superior material.

But its really not.

Thats cheap pvc

PVC can be cast in many varying qualities. These days, to keep prices low, most are cast as cheap quality or even 'reground' which means its recycled plastic and that is even more susceptible to warping and cracking.

But back in the 90s/early 2000s I never willingly used reground or cheap PVC. Though sometimes a factory would trick me and use it to save themselves some money.

Yamato is the only company Im aware of that seems to still use very high quality PVC for statues. Almost all of the anime pvc statues i see are using cheap plastic.

Imagine a pvc statue with the look/quality of a Hot Toys figure. Thats what PVC can do when used properly and its way more realistic than any polystone statue ever made.

I havent bought a Yamato in several years so maybe its changed. Its also possible factories are duping them, which happens a lot. Just because a manufacture pays for high quality doesnt mean the factory uses high quality. Theres no way for the manufacturer to tell until problems start arising.

I do have some Kotobukiya that appears to be high quality and some that arent.





I think this is the best scale for this license.

Asking $500+ for something that most people have no emotional attachment beyond a cool design was a flawed premise. At least comic characters have a backstory in the geek culture and pop culture world. Not to mention when choosing between Rogue PF and random COTD PF characters for the same price the choice is clear.

I think Sideshow has had a ton of success with the COTD as it has been done. The lack of licensing contracts probably has a lot to do with it too.

[loricstone]

I actually feel the 1/6 would have been perfect for this IP.

It would have been much more affordable and still have decent enough size to bring recognition.

Nevertheless, even though I don't own any COTD, I still enjoy this line and hope it thrives and I hope they start venturing into the line of Angels and Demons.

The main reason why I stopped collecting this line was the QC. Just about every release up to Shard and Demithyle had problems. My Queen wouldn't even fit in her base and I had to get a complete replacement. The next one had cooky eyes somewhat. The writing was on the wall then and there and that (along with Iron Patriot) is really what made me go gung ho over XM as opposed to SS.

I actually plan to order all three of the Prestige line...but I am now hesitant because I know SS track record of starting a line then quickly flaming out of it....like MOTU and GI Joe and World of Warcraft.

[qz33]

I actually feel the 1/6 would have been perfect for this IP.

It would have been much more affordable and still have decent enough size to bring recognition.

Nevertheless, even though I don't own any COTD, I still enjoy this line and hope it thrives and I hope they start venturing into the line of Angels and Demons.

The main reason why I stopped collecting this line was the QC. Just about every release up to Shard and Demithyle had problems. My Queen wouldn't even fit in her base and I had to get a complete replacement. The next one had cooky eyes somewhat. The writing was on the wall then and there and that (along with Iron Patriot) is really what made me go gung ho over XM as opposed to SS.

I actually plan to order all three of the Prestige line...but I am now hesitant because I know SS track record of starting a line then quickly flaming out of it....like MOTU and GI Joe and World of Warcraft.

Well loric they've been supporting COTD for years and many statues now and remember they aren't heholden to license agreements for these so I'd wager they have a FAR better chance of continuing than anything else.

[loricstone]

Well loric they've been supporting COTD for years and many statues now and remember they aren't heholden to license agreements for these so I'd wager they have a FAR better chance of continuing than anything else.

Yeah...i meant for the prestige line specifically.

[COI]

Seems like they're doing fine with the 1/4 pieces. The edition sizes are in line with the average PF, and they seem to all sell out eventually.

I think adding this smaller scale at an affordable price point was very smart. Whatever additional ways they get these characters out will only help the license, and lots of people will buy these for the heck of it at $90 a pop.

[loricstone]

True COI. Case in point. I just PO all three of them and will buy them all if they do more.

[dechirico7]

These are produced by some gaming collectibles company, not just Sideshow. I am assuming they went through this company for to their experience with PVC?

[Shaughn54]

I could see the prestige line selling really well and the line growing faster than the 1/4 scale line.

[COI]

These are produced by some gaming collectibles company, not just Sideshow. I am assuming they went through this company for to their experience with PVC?

Could be. Maybe to help/get a better rate with manufacturing because they probably had to go with a different type of factory to make these.

[bearmdel]

DO you guys think they will do a Eater of the Dead and Death Master of the UNderworld one?

[dechirico7]

DO you guys think they will do a Eater of the Dead and Death Master of the UNderworld one?

I am sure itcsll depends on how well these sell. I get why they did the three faction leaders, but it would have been nice to see other characters.

[ruzzell]

I’m in for a Gallevarbe if they ever make one in her aquatic form.

[ruzzell]

Did anyone get theirs yet? I have Gesthemoni coming tomorrow.

[DeadGhostKnight]

Interested to see these!

[Agent Jeffries]

Did anyone get theirs yet? I have Gesthemoni coming tomorrow.

I have all three arriving tomorrow.

[ruzzell]

Here is Gethsemoni:
https://i.postimg.cc/sxr4XtSD/821-F266-C-DA7-C-4-AAE-AD8-E-A03122-BE8-ED1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/4yQbhBbv/81776-F78-2-AE7-452-D-A598-663467-FBCB89.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/c4dcNG0F/4-DADFE22-868-C-4-A61-8-E84-79-E6753677-E9.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/kMQyZg3V/E9-C13-CFF-36-B9-436-A-960-B-318-C92-A2-FE48.jpg

Noticed she has a spot on her ribs that is an error.

[VS1976]

It looks really plasticly.

[Sculpty_Bones]

Could someone please post more photos of these statues? Do you like them in real life?

It'll help me decide whether to get one or not.

So far that one looks nice enough.

The Kier one grabs my fancy!

[Atlantisatdawn]

Could someone please post more photos of these statues? Do you like them in real life?

It'll help me decide whether to get one or not.

So far that one looks nice enough.

The Kier one grabs my fancy!
I dont have any of them, but I'd get Kier first if I was gonna get one, I love the 2nd gethsemoni premium format, it looks better in person than the pictures, but I dont like this smaller scale of her, mostly because the facial details

[ruzzell]

Here is another pic with other statues for comparison:

https://i.postimg.cc/qqnY0FWz/6127-BB26-167-E-4-E94-B0-FE-566-D7335-C1-DD.jpg

[Sculpty_Bones]

Very nice. I think it looks like a pretty good statue.

Who's the devil babe?

[ruzzell]

Very nice. I think it looks like a pretty good statue.

Who's the devil babe?

It’s Purgatori from the Women of Dynamite line.

[Lonewolf65]

I dont have any of them, but I'd get Kier first if I was gonna get one, I love the 2nd gethsemoni premium format, it looks better in person than the pictures, but I dont like this smaller scale of her, mostly because the facial details

Which Purgatori and Lady Death are they.

Very nice. I think it looks like a pretty good statue.

Who's the devil babe?

That looks like purgatori, but which Lady Death is that?

Edit; never mind found it...

[ruzzell]

Really good details on Kier statuette especially the angel:
https://i.postimg.cc/15gqpjq1/38-B3-F2-DB-E320-4060-9-F10-F23-A76920081.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/yxG3MF2G/44488-F21-89-B2-42-C8-B2-E8-DDFBE2-C327-E0.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/kGGtYjY8/803-DD57-B-62-E1-4321-98-FB-B7261581-DE82.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/9Xg9whzB/14-C39-CBA-79-D7-420-B-96-AC-DA6-F29-AE32-B6.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/J49BK5ND/1839-E45-D-0-A77-41-DC-8241-F0-F1-A5-A57313.jpg