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Kefka2200
04-23-2018, 08:07 AM
Caught these pictures on a fan group. Who’s excited for a 1:1 Blue to go with the upcoming 1:1 Blue bust?? I know I am!

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Chronicle CS
04-23-2018, 09:43 AM
Not a bust, 1:1 Baby Blue!

Kefka2200
04-23-2018, 09:57 AM
Haha I know! I was saying this full scale model would go nicely with the 1:1 adult blue bust!

Fu_Manchu
04-23-2018, 10:15 AM
In time with the movie! :) I bet this one sells like hot cakes. Will the eyes be acrylic?

Steve evans
04-23-2018, 12:30 PM
How do these guys make stuff so fast? It looks incredible!

Chronicle CS
04-23-2018, 12:49 PM
37.5" long, 24" tall, resin eyes like the 1:1 Raptor, simple clean black base.

Pre-Order May 4th....

Price will be amazing....

Paul

Kefka2200
04-23-2018, 02:11 PM
I can’t wait, Paul!

MikemBHD
04-23-2018, 02:12 PM
Can’t wait !!!!!!

Chrisrex82
04-23-2018, 02:16 PM
If Fallen Kingdom turns out to be a big hit, I think Chronicle should reconsider moving the 1:1 Blue bust ahead of the JP 3 Raptor bust

Chronicle CS
04-23-2018, 04:40 PM
Baby Blue is still getting paint, we showed it with the base coats on, should be finished tomorrow.

Paul

dannygarrett09
04-23-2018, 05:49 PM
Baby Blue is still getting paint, we showed it with the base coats on, should be finished tomorrow.

Paul

Say what its still not finished it looked good to me like that man this is going to be amazing piece when I saw it one the live video I couldn't keep my mouth closed

Chronicle CS
04-26-2018, 05:44 PM
May 4th!

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31369757_10214255716879543_2102583303973371904_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=916875d88708f8880826dec7c3317f84&oe=5B5EF438

ChrisLikesDinos
04-26-2018, 05:51 PM
This is hands down my favorite piece

I don't even love trained raptors from JW, or Blue, and I need this. Incredible stuff.

dannygarrett09
04-26-2018, 06:17 PM
hates off to you guys love it just love it

The SHOGUN
04-26-2018, 07:13 PM
Wow thats cool

azurepred
04-26-2018, 07:34 PM
very intriguing. More so then the busts.

wpmedia
04-26-2018, 07:46 PM
Ohhhh mannnn, this is gonna be BIG, especially if JW2 really takes off. So excited to see the reveal and the price!! :D

Fu_Manchu
04-27-2018, 10:00 AM
Damn me Paul. Visiting this subforum is like having christmas presents, every week.

Shoo
04-27-2018, 10:12 AM
That's so cute.

Max Shreck
04-27-2018, 11:57 AM
Omg! Is this from the Scanlan molds? I need it!

MikemBHD
04-27-2018, 12:42 PM
Need price !!!!! She’s amazing

Chrisrex82
04-27-2018, 01:08 PM
wow that looks amazing!

daz1999
04-27-2018, 01:49 PM
Very cool , I’ll have to order this for sure

Steve evans
04-27-2018, 03:38 PM
This is impressive work from Chronicle!

ChrisLikesDinos
04-27-2018, 04:53 PM
Omg! Is this from the Scanlan molds? I need it!

ILM files I imagine, as the practical raptor puppets were replaced with CG.

Chronicle CS
04-27-2018, 05:01 PM
ILM digital files, we worked closely with ILM and Universal on this one...

Paul

The SHOGUN
04-27-2018, 10:41 PM
May 4th!

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31369757_10214255716879543_2102583303973371904_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=916875d88708f8880826dec7c3317f84&oe=5B5EF438

i can't stop looking at this little guy. great picture

Chrisrex82
04-28-2018, 12:08 AM
Is this larger than the 1:5 scale adult raptor maquette?

dannygarrett09
04-28-2018, 05:11 AM
Is this larger than the 1:5 scale adult raptor maquette?

yes this is 1:1 the actual size of baby blue in the film

Fu_Manchu
04-28-2018, 08:36 AM
This thing of having 1:1 dinosaurs in my house is becoming a bad habit

Max Shreck
04-28-2018, 11:02 AM
ILM digital files, we worked closely with ILM and Universal on this one...

Paul

:buttrock::vortex::drooling:

daz1999
04-28-2018, 12:48 PM
Paint looks like it’ll be a challenge for the factory to replicate, fingers crossed

Steve evans
04-28-2018, 12:58 PM
How soon will it be before Chronicle's next Fallen Kingdom dino arrive's and what will it be...Indoraptor, Baryonyx, Carnotaurus, Stigi??
The question is do you blow your money on Baby Blue or wait for the next one...I need to find myself a rich wife!!!

Gruson
04-28-2018, 09:29 PM
Love this. If movie is good, I’m getting for sure. Loved Jurassic World.

Verdun
04-29-2018, 05:21 PM
If the eyes could move in the sockets---I can imagine lots of free media, and many more sales
I would pay an extra 200 for that!

dechirico7
04-29-2018, 09:01 PM
Love this. I really liked Blue in the first movie. Looks like he might be a part in the second. My only issue is, if I get this piece will it make me want more dinosaurs? LOL. Kind of scared to get into more lines.

Bagassi
05-02-2018, 07:29 PM
wow looks amazing.

MikemBHD
05-03-2018, 01:57 PM
We get to know the price of this today ?

Steve evans
05-03-2018, 02:15 PM
We get to know the price of this today ?

Thursday I believe, I reckon around $999

MikemBHD
05-03-2018, 02:47 PM
I hope not that’s not a price to be amazed with

Steve evans
05-03-2018, 02:55 PM
I hope not that’s not a price to be amazed with

I'm hoping I'm wrong but it's a big piece with glass eyes and the paint job looks quite intricate.

franktank
05-03-2018, 03:07 PM
I'm hoping I'm wrong but it's a big piece with glass eyes and the paint job looks quite intricate.


I’m betting $649.99—$699

samhain81
05-03-2018, 03:14 PM
Beautiful

zadmax
05-03-2018, 04:05 PM
How big is it compared to the Indominus Rex? That one is $800.

Steve evans
05-03-2018, 04:17 PM
The Indominus is 30" long, Baby Blue is around 37" long. With the Indominus they've inserted metal pins (or something similar) into the cast to support the spines. I think this bumped up the price.

MikemBHD
05-03-2018, 08:33 PM
Anything yet

Chrisrex82
05-03-2018, 09:15 PM
It's being delayed

Chronicle CS
05-03-2018, 11:21 PM
Yep, sorry folks, Baby Blue’s a bit delayed.

- Robert

67L88Stingray
05-03-2018, 11:26 PM
Is there going to be a 30 day price discount on this or are those done now? I don't really see a point to ordering direct if there isn't going to be one.

Steve evans
05-04-2018, 06:24 AM
Yep, sorry folks, Baby Blue’s a bit delayed.

- Robert

Has she escaped?

Adam_Warlock
05-05-2018, 07:56 PM
Is there going to be a 30 day price discount on this or are those done now? I don't really see a point to ordering direct if there isn't going to be one.

heres an idea... maybe let them put the product up for pre order first and all will be revealed.

67L88Stingray
05-06-2018, 07:23 AM
heres an idea... maybe let them put the product up for pre order first and all will be revealed.

Well, no, I don't want to be an idiot and wait till its too late to have an influence one way or the other if they are on the fence, so better to ask now. The reward program hasn't materialized and many new pieces aren't getting it so would like to know beforehand.

Steve evans
05-06-2018, 01:06 PM
I'm sure this piece will be worth the wait...priced right they should sell loads because it's so unique.

robomorph
05-07-2018, 10:09 AM
Very interested in this one - looks great so far!

Intricate paint app looks like a challenge for any factory to convincingly pull off though.

Adam_Warlock
05-07-2018, 10:18 AM
Well, no, I don't want to be an idiot and wait till its too late to have an influence one way or the other if they are on the fence, so better to ask now. The reward program hasn't materialized and many new pieces aren't getting it so would like to know beforehand.

Not sure how that would be too late. If they don't offer a discount then what is your other option? Buying local? If so your local wont be taking orders until Chronicle lists and announces a price. So not sure how you will be affected either way.

Steve evans
05-07-2018, 11:04 AM
Very interested in this one - looks great so far!

Intricate paint app looks like a challenge for any factory to convincingly pull off though.

I agree, they might use decals, which I believe is what they used on the adult Blue & Owen figure.

67L88Stingray
05-07-2018, 11:01 PM
Not sure how that would be too late. If they don't offer a discount then what is your other option? Buying local? If so your local wont be taking orders until Chronicle lists and announces a price. So not sure how you will be affected either way.

Well they cant change it after the fact, so yes then it would be too late.

Like I said I would rather order direct, but if its the same price as everywhere else and we still don't have the reward program yet, I could wait for a better deal like some other places offer(free ship, etc...) or go with a preorder where I don't have to pay up front. Flex pay is only good for people that can't budget, I would rather just pay in full when it is released.

Chronicle CS
05-26-2018, 11:46 AM
June 1st pre-order!

$999.00

Steve evans
05-26-2018, 05:23 PM
Do you have a price for the 1:5 Trike bust yet?

June 1st pre-order!

$999.00

tamaboy311
05-26-2018, 08:16 PM
Do you have a price for the 1:5 Trike bust yet?

I think I'll be 750. Same as the rexes.

Kefka2200
05-31-2018, 04:11 PM
Ack! $999! I should’ve expected it, but I was hoping for less haha. I’m gonna have to hope this is available in a couple months so I can pay something off first. Still a great price!

Steve evans
05-31-2018, 04:22 PM
I can't wait to see more pictures of Baby Blue.

Steve evans
05-31-2018, 06:47 PM
Here's Baby Blue!

67L88Stingray
06-01-2018, 12:24 AM
So no Pre-order discount?

Chronicle CS
06-01-2018, 08:11 AM
So no Pre-order discount?

Not offered on this. Going forward, we’re looking at doing exclusive add-ons for direct orders in lieu of pre-order discounts. More to come.

- Robert

Fu_Manchu
06-01-2018, 01:32 PM
Not trying to bash on this one but fiberglass? I'm quite opossed to rotocasting, it's a bad solution, but making pieces hollow in non-critical areas (like the main body here for example) can ease a lot with weight issues...

FROBAY
06-01-2018, 04:09 PM
Looks great. Ordered.

daz1999
06-01-2018, 04:18 PM
Ordered, looks very nicely done, a little worried about the paint if I’m honest

Kefka2200
06-01-2018, 04:43 PM
I have to work a lot to be able to afford this haha. It’s on my list! Also, Paul or anyone, I’m assuming the eyes will be similar in presentation to the 1:1 bust. Is that correct?

tamaboy311
06-01-2018, 08:53 PM
I have to work a lot to be able to afford this haha. It’s on my list! Also, Paul or anyone, I’m assuming the eyes will be similar in presentation to the 1:1 bust. Is that correct?

No, painted resin.

zadmax
06-01-2018, 10:27 PM
No, painted resin.

According to their Facebook weekly chat video, they are acrylic inserts. They show samples of what they look like removed from Baby Blue. They look really good.

67L88Stingray
06-02-2018, 05:21 AM
Not offered on this. Going forward, we’re looking at doing exclusive add-ons for direct orders in lieu of pre-order discounts. More to come.

- Robert

Disappointed to see that not offered, it was a nice incentive to order direct and order early. I don't see a reason to do either now unless you guys implement the long awaited loyalty rewards program.

prototypy
06-02-2018, 05:29 AM
So there is no name plate or any logo on this piece right?Is it possible to have one on production piece?

Chronicle CS
06-02-2018, 05:51 AM
So there is no name plate or any logo on this piece right?Is it possible to have one on production piece?

We’re keeping it plain yet elegant like our upcoming Bronze Rex. Collectors have been asking for logo-less bases for years now; we’re fulfilling that request.

- Robert

67L88Stingray
06-02-2018, 06:19 AM
We’re keeping it plain yet elegant like our upcoming Bronze Rex. Collectors have been asking for logo-less bases for years now; we’re fulfilling that request.

- Robert

Would be a nice option to have logo removable so everyone can be happy. I personally like diorama style bases over these plain black ones. It works on the bronze style, but not more realistic pieces IMO.

Ezhil
06-02-2018, 06:23 AM
Yes natural bases with addon logos or name plate will be better than black base. Also the original preorder discount helped a lot for international customers

Verdun
06-02-2018, 10:48 AM
The eyes pointing straight to the sides looks awfully bovine.

Is it just me?

The same issue on the 2 raptor busts. Every time I look at my JP1 bust, I being reminded of poor taxidermy.

I do work as an illustrator specifically with animals/creatures, so I hope I'm just just me that see's these things--because I want these products to be the best.
Maybe I will feel different after seeing the new eye.

Manu81
06-02-2018, 07:34 PM
What about the raptor’s eye? I have the jp1 bust and it is simply awesome!!:)

prototypy
06-02-2018, 09:36 PM
We’re keeping it plain yet elegant like our upcoming Bronze Rex. Collectors have been asking for logo-less bases for years now; we’re fulfilling that request.

- Robert


I am sorry to hear that because name plate is a highlight for life size statue.

El Diablo
06-03-2018, 05:21 AM
This looks great, really hope the factory can nail the paint app as it looks quite intricate.
It’s a real shame the preorder discounts will no longer be done, it pretty much means I’ll never be direct ordering again (as I’m sure many internationals won’t) as after the import tax and shipping the price won’t be far off the (extortionate) amount retailers charge over here!

Steve evans
06-03-2018, 05:40 AM
This looks great, really hope the factory can nail the paint app as it looks quite intricate.
It’s a real shame the preorder discounts will no longer be done, it pretty much means I’ll never be direct ordering again (as I’m sure many internationals won’t) as after the import tax and shipping the price won’t be far off the (extortionate) amount retailers charge over here!

I totally agree with this. I wonder if Chronicle have ever considered setting up a distribution warehouse somewhere in Europe to overcome these ridiculous charges. I think many more people would purchase their products if they did. El Diablo, I assume you live in Europe...apologies if you don't.

Jon_Boston_83
06-03-2018, 02:56 PM
I would certainly buy stuff if there was a warehouse in Europe. I buy Weta statues from their EU warehouse but have never ordered anything from the states. When Sideshow gave up their european warehouse, I stopped buying from them. The JP diorama is the only thing I'm considering, and as you say even for set A the cost from a local retailer is £1500. They say they allow £200 for shipping, but that still makes it £400 more expensive than ordering from Iron Studios. Would any tax payment make it that expensive? Is £200 a realistic shipping price?

El Diablo
06-03-2018, 03:36 PM
I totally agree with this. I wonder if Chronicle have ever considered setting up a distribution warehouse somewhere in Europe to overcome these ridiculous charges. I think many more people would purchase their products if they did. El Diablo, I assume you live in Europe...apologies if you don't.

I do, in the uk :thumbs2:

daz1999
06-03-2018, 03:58 PM
The eyes pointing straight to the sides looks awfully bovine.

Is it just me?

The same issue on the 2 raptor busts. Every time I look at my JP1 bust, I being reminded of poor taxidermy.

I do work as an illustrator specifically with animals/creatures, so I hope I'm just just me that see's these things--because I want these products to be the best.
Maybe I will feel different after seeing the new eye.


Totally agree, I have the raptor bust and it even bothers me in person, if they tweaked the eyes so they pointed forward slightly it would make the world of difference imo, as they are now it kind of looks like the dumb/homer Simpson raptor haha, still love it though

Atheris
06-07-2018, 04:18 PM
1k...brah lol

Chris

Unknown Hero
06-07-2018, 07:44 PM
Am I late to this? SS is now a distributor.


https://www.sideshowtoy.com/collectibles/jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-baby-blue-chronicle-collectibles-903634/?scid=PAWL008&utm_source=bronto&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Image+-+Baby+Blue&utm_content=Image+-+Baby+Blue&utm_campaign=060718news

Ezhil
06-07-2018, 09:30 PM
Nice move. We can use rewards + int shipping costs less

qz33
06-07-2018, 11:32 PM
I'm I late to this? SS is now a distributor.


https://www.sideshowtoy.com/collectibles/jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-baby-blue-chronicle-collectibles-903634/?scid=PAWL008&utm_source=bronto&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Image+-+Baby+Blue&utm_content=Image+-+Baby+Blue&utm_campaign=060718news

Oh I hope so. Sideshow's gonna own the earth.

zadmax
06-07-2018, 11:48 PM
I'm I late to this? SS is now a distributor.




Wish I had known this before I placed my order direct through Chronicle. No preorder discount for Baby Blue, and I could have gotten points from SS. :(

67L88Stingray
06-08-2018, 01:19 AM
Wish I had known this before I placed my order direct through Chronicle. No preorder discount for Baby Blue, and I could have gotten points from SS. :(

Which is exactly why I don't understand the reasoning for not offering it anymore, and an "exclusive tshirt" or something like that they want to include in the future isn't going to make up for that. I would rather them not pay sideshow the middleman fee and pass that along to the early bird loyal customers.

Chronicle CS
06-08-2018, 08:05 AM
Which is exactly why I don't understand the reasoning for not offering it anymore, and an "exclusive tshirt" or something like that they want to include in the future isn't going to make up for that. I would rather them not pay sideshow the middleman fee and pass that along to the early bird loyal customers.

Our add-on program will be a lot more than a t-shirt and will actually be something highly desirable. We’ll have details soon.

- Robert

Atheris
06-08-2018, 08:09 AM
Our add-on program will be a lot more than a t-shirt and will actually be something highly desirable. We’ll have details soon.

- Robert

Please let it be drugs and hoes :buttrock:

Chris

dannygarrett09
06-08-2018, 08:13 AM
Is there a face book live tonight Robert?

Chronicle CS
06-08-2018, 10:21 AM
Is there a face book live tonight Robert?

Not tonight. Probably next week.

- Robert

67L88Stingray
06-08-2018, 10:38 AM
Please let it be drugs and hoes :buttrock:

Chris

You would still complain about it either way.

67L88Stingray
06-08-2018, 10:39 AM
Our add-on program will be a lot more than a t-shirt and will actually be something highly desirable. We’ll have details soon.

- Robert

So is the rewards program dead then? It was a sure thing a while back.

Verdun
06-13-2018, 07:07 AM
Totally agree, I have the raptor bust and it even bothers me in person, if they tweaked the eyes so they pointed forward slightly it would make the world of difference imo, as they are now it kind of looks like the dumb/homer Simpson raptor haha, still love it though

Darn! I was hoping it was just me.

I agree still love my raptor bust, but I won't be spending another thousand on something with the bovine eyes. Which really dissappoints me, as I was definately on for ordering Baby Blue before.

samhain81
06-20-2018, 08:08 AM
Yeah I don't understand the reasoning either. The reduced pricing windows were perfect opportunities for international buyers to order, to offset the price for shipping abit. Now, the 'special' additional perks, nobody asked or really cared for, offer no real incentive to order directly, especially international customers now that sideshow can distribute, offer cheaper shipping, and can offer rewards points.

Just seems forced, with the only reason being to not offer the discount and want more money.

dragontron
06-20-2018, 11:44 AM
So whos getting this over the Prime 1 version or vice versa?....

Adam_Warlock
06-20-2018, 11:54 AM
So whos getting this over the Prime 1 version or vice versa?....

Have not committed to chronicles baby blue yet. Whats funny is if they had given an early pre order discount I would have already. Now I see its up on sideshow and Prime 1 just dropped a bomb. I have lots of time to make a decision. Need a full reveal from Prime 1 and price.

Unknown Hero
06-20-2018, 12:01 PM
Have not committed to chronicles baby blue yet. Whats funny is if they had given an early pre order discount I would have already. Now I see its up on sideshow and Prime 1 just dropped a bomb. I have lots of time to make a decision. Need a full reveal from Prime 1 and price.

Is it up on SS? International?

67L88Stingray
06-20-2018, 01:30 PM
Is it up on SS? International?

The Chronicle Baby is up on SS already.

tamaboy311
06-20-2018, 02:31 PM
The Chronicle Baby is up on SS already.

Sorry for my ignorance but is SS?

majestic1
06-20-2018, 02:38 PM
Sorry for my ignorance but is SS?

Sideshow Collectables.

Unknown Hero
06-20-2018, 03:33 PM
The Chronicle Baby is up on SS already.

Sorry I misread and thought he was referring to the P1 version. I see Friday is the date.

Dirt Torpedo
06-20-2018, 04:00 PM
Someone’s going to be suffering the baby blues.









......See what I did there

MikemBHD
06-20-2018, 05:56 PM
I think chronicles looks better imo closer to the movie version

qz33
06-20-2018, 06:02 PM
I think chronicles looks better imo closer to the movie version

Judging either of these based on prototypes won't mean much.
P1 has a better production reputation than Chronicle.

All this just shows it's getting a little too crazy in the statue industry if both companies feel they can move forward with each of these while the other does as well and at the same time.
This is not the healthy kind of competition. :nuts:

Steve evans
06-20-2018, 06:58 PM
Judging either of these based on prototypes won't mean much.
P1 has a better production reputation than Chronicle.

All this just shows it's getting a little too crazy in the statue industry if both companies feel they can move forward with each of these while the other does as well and at the same time.
This is not the healthy kind of competition. :nuts:

Well said, there is so much more scope to the franchise.

samhain81
06-20-2018, 07:21 PM
For me, it's literally a case of which one I can get to the UK for , cheaper. The differences between them won't be night and day I don't think, so it all depends on price and price alone.

Blacksunn
06-24-2018, 10:03 AM
Anyone know if this has glass eyes?

67L88Stingray
06-24-2018, 01:49 PM
Anyone know if this has glass eyes?

Can't remember exactly, but they went into detail on the eye in the last chat video.

KELPIE
06-25-2018, 08:31 PM
Anyone know if this has glass eyes?

From page 1.

37.5" long, 24" tall, resin eyes like the 1:1 Raptor, simple clean black base.

Pre-Order May 4th....

Price will be amazing....

Paul

Chronicle CS
06-29-2018, 04:00 PM
ILM sent us the direct files, The only change we made was to the head tilt, otherwise it's their sculpture like the Indominous.

Paul

Phil the sixth
06-30-2018, 06:57 AM
Awesome Paul.I have baby Blue on pre-order.
One question I have---> about the outlining of the blue areas : will this be toned down?When comparing the promo pictures to a movie still it strikes me that the white outlining is way more pronounced on the statue.It's much more subtle in the movie.

Chronicle CS
06-30-2018, 01:19 PM
Yes we will be making subtle changes through production and we hope to have the counter sample for Comic Con.

Paul

Phil the sixth
06-30-2018, 01:26 PM
Nice.
Looking forward to see the counter sample! :)

Kefka2200
07-04-2018, 06:32 PM
Any chance you guys could run up to Rockford Illinois and have a convention? I hate missing out. Lmao

Vendetta
07-12-2018, 03:34 AM
What materials are used? Is this fully polystone?

Chronicle CS
07-12-2018, 06:09 AM
What materials are used? Is this fully polystone?

No, it’s crafted primarily out of fiberglass and the eyes are premium acrylic.

- Robert

Chronicle CS
07-12-2018, 12:52 PM
The Baby Blue was produced by ILM from their files and detail maps. It's not a recreation, it's exactly what you saw on screen and not overly detailed.

The piece is fiberglass body, pollystone arms, legs and head. The eyes are just like the 1:1 Raptor, resin cast clear.

Paul

Chronicle CS
07-13-2018, 01:38 PM
Baby Blue will make it for SDCC and we have added a bonus feature to make her more accurate.

Paul

Phil the sixth
07-13-2018, 01:59 PM
Awesome Paul.Looking forward to see baby blue at SDCC!

Darth Milo
07-14-2018, 08:51 AM
http://i63.tinypic.com/jzdu9g.jpg

Looks really good:buttrock:

FROBAY
07-14-2018, 11:07 AM
That looks amazing.

Phil the sixth
07-14-2018, 01:42 PM
Loving the eyes.Everything looks great except for the white outlining of the blue areas.
This should be tone down a bit...more of a broken white to a very light grey.Too "flashy" (ergo too much contrast) as it stands now imho.

Photo courtesy of "DPmaster"

http://www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/2017/12/Dino.jpg

http://www.majorcineplex.com/uploads/content/13169/cover_13169.jpg

https://orig00.deviantart.net/1474/f/2017/342/0/4/owen_and_blue__jurassic_world_2_the_fallen_kingdom_by_queenofnightwish-dbw4nq7.jpg

Adam_Warlock
07-14-2018, 02:22 PM
Loving the eyes.Everything looks great except for the white outlining of the blue areas.
This should be tone down a bit...more of a broken white to a very light grey.Too "flashy" (ergo too much contrast) as it stands now imho.

Photo courtesy of "DPmaster"

http://www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/2017/12/Dino.jpg

http://www.majorcineplex.com/uploads/content/13169/cover_13169.jpg

https://orig00.deviantart.net/1474/f/2017/342/0/4/owen_and_blue__jurassic_world_2_the_fallen_kingdom_by_queenofnightwish-dbw4nq7.jpg

The lighting in those photos is totally different. I guess you are the expert though even though Chronicle got the files from ILM.:rolleyes2

Chronicle CS
07-14-2018, 03:28 PM
Trailer CG varies from final version.

- Robert

Steve evans
07-14-2018, 03:57 PM
Massive improvement with this CC, well done! It will be a hard choice for many now.

Fu_Manchu
07-14-2018, 04:20 PM
What an impressive improvement wow. Now it has the same "it's alive" quality that I see on my raptor bust.

Xenoburger
07-14-2018, 10:49 PM
Hmmm. I think the paint quality on the Prime 1 version is better but the colors on this one are more accurate. Tough decision.

MikemBHD
07-15-2018, 12:41 AM
It is tough primes is cheaper and has a nice base where as CC is more accurate to the movie

El Diablo
07-15-2018, 03:22 AM
I’d go with chronicle’s over prime 1 I prefer the pose and details on cc’s and also I don’t like my £1k collectables feeling like plastic toys (prime 1 vinyl :puke2:)

daz1999
07-15-2018, 06:10 AM
The fact CC had access to ILM sways it for me, P1’s is very nice though,especially the base

Steve evans
07-15-2018, 07:51 AM
The fact CC had access to ILM sways it for me, P1’s is very nice though,especially the base
I believe both CC and Prime1 had access to ILM's files for this one.

Fu_Manchu
07-15-2018, 10:38 AM
I believe both CC and Prime1 had access to ILM's files for this one.

It's very clear that Primes' is sculpted and this one is a print of the digital files of the movie. Compare the skin scales of both.

Which it still feels like witchery, seeing stuff converted from the digital domain to the physical. In the movie it feels realistic but here we have it in physical shape, converted from the virtual world.

Bit of metaphysics here doesn't it :)

Python
07-15-2018, 11:06 AM
I’d go with chronicle’s over prime 1 I prefer the pose and details on cc’s and also I don’t like my £1k collectables feeling like plastic toys (prime 1 vinyl :puke2:)


Yeah, as much as I love Prime 1 and have more confidence in their production pieces over any other collectible producer. In this specific case, and despite the paint, base & price being better on the P1 version. The simple fact that theirs is vinyl alone would be enough to make this one a fairly easy choice in favor of the CC version...

samhain81
07-15-2018, 02:09 PM
After seeing both, I'm definitely swaying towards Chronicles. It just looks more like Blue from the movie, obviously in part due to the ILM files.

dannygarrett09
07-15-2018, 03:30 PM
ok we know chronicles baby blue is spot on so why cant you guys come together and use prime 1 stand then your have the ultimate piece

Chronicle CS
07-15-2018, 05:16 PM
I was trying to do something clean and simple with the base, it's already into production but we've added something that I believe will put it over the top. Blue will be on display at Comic Con and beside the killer eye update, there is another cool addition seen in the films that ILM sent us to push ours over the top.

The Director just placed his order for our version, so that says something to me.

Paul

dannygarrett09
07-15-2018, 05:21 PM
I was trying to do something clean and simple with the base, it's already into production but we've added something that I believe will put it over the top. Blue will be on display at Comic Con and beside the killer eye update, there is another cool addition seen in the films that ILM sent us to push ours over the top.

The Director just placed his order for our version, so that says something to me.

Paul

J.A is the man!!!

Thorondor_33
07-15-2018, 08:25 PM
That's really cool J.A. himself wants one.

Both the Baby Blue's look great but that most recent picture of CC's version is outstanding. Gotta give the edge to CC on Baby Blue.

michael zhang
07-16-2018, 12:15 AM
I definitely chose CC. CC's Blue is closer to the movie, and the pattern is the same as in the movie. FRP materials can also provide a guarantee. Props to restore the best! Just hope CC can make the details of the mouth more small, now look a bit big. And then the skin texture details more refined natural some good.

Verdun
07-16-2018, 06:48 AM
I was trying to do something clean and simple with the base, it's already into production but we've added something that I believe will put it over the top. Blue will be on display at Comic Con and beside the killer eye update, there is another cool addition seen in the films that ILM sent us to push ours over the top.

The Director just placed his order for our version, so that says something to me.

Paul


Can't wait to see the addition!
Right, now it's still a difficult a choice for me, assuming P1's will even be available as an option.

Even though I prefer accuracy--I love P1's base, neck folds and ultimately the lower price. Even if I didn't have the limited finances, the lower price would allow me to finally get the Stego or Sick Tric.

I'd skip it all for an Apatosaur or Allosaur.

Adam_Warlock
07-16-2018, 12:12 PM
There's a difference between "clean and simple" and just a plain black oval. Interested to see what this addition is although currently I would choose Prime 1.

Chronicle CS
07-16-2018, 01:08 PM
Well the base adds considerable cost for a dinosaur that's 37" long.

So we opted to put the money into Blue and less the base.

ILM pointed out we needed this last detail and I think it will be the icing on the cake to our film accurate Baby Blue.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37230506_10214857111874042_2054419953032888320_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=52fbf7747710611968e1ed932a440424&oe=5BC9DB98

Paul

Chronicle CS
07-16-2018, 01:09 PM
Be sure to stop by booth 3229 to see Baby Blue and all of our cool new JP items.

Paul

clutch
07-16-2018, 02:55 PM
Nice!

daz1999
07-16-2018, 03:30 PM
Very cool

El Diablo
07-16-2018, 05:12 PM
The wrist band is a nice touch :thumbs2:
Paul, can I ask how come the eyes are so much darker in the latest pics compared to the early proto pics and the screen caps from the film?

tamaboy311
07-16-2018, 06:07 PM
The wrist band is a nice touch :thumbs2:
Paul, can I ask how come the eyes are so much darker in the latest pics compared to the early proto pics and the screen caps from the film?

in the cg caps, the lighting is very harsh. the color is going to be different depending on the lighting. but blue has dark orange eyes.

Steve evans
07-16-2018, 06:18 PM
The wrist band is a nice touch :thumbs2:
Paul, can I ask how come the eyes are so much darker in the latest pics compared to the early proto pics and the screen caps from the film?

The new colour matches the files given to them from ILM

Chrisrex82
07-16-2018, 07:53 PM
will the P1 Baby Blue be sold though CC?

67L88Stingray
07-16-2018, 09:59 PM
Will the name tag be removeable I hope? I like the accuracy, but not sure I would use it.

tamaboy311
07-16-2018, 10:56 PM
Will the name tag be removeable I hope? I like the accuracy, but not sure I would use it.

Seems non removable.

tamaboy311
07-16-2018, 10:57 PM
will the P1 Baby Blue be sold though CC?

2nd this...i think it will tho. They are official distributors of all jp stuff from p1.

El Diablo
07-17-2018, 02:29 AM
in the cg caps, the lighting is very harsh. the color is going to be different depending on the lighting. but blue has dark orange eyes.

The new colour matches the files given to them from ILM

:thumbs2:

67L88Stingray
07-17-2018, 06:26 AM
Seems non removable.

Why would you think that? It looks like a separate piece.

Chronicle CS
07-17-2018, 10:47 AM
The eyes were in the flat maps from ILM, when i originally painted the eyes I went for what I thought they looked like on screen, well they are actually darker and more gold than orange. I guess that as she ages her eyes change a bit.

The wrist band will be removable and the dev team felt it was the missing piece of the puzzle.

We'll have her at Comic Con, all 37" of her and it's true 1:1 scale.

Paul

El Diablo
07-17-2018, 01:04 PM
The eyes were in the flat maps from ILM, when i originally painted the eyes I went for what I thought they looked like on screen, well they are actually darker and more gold than orange. I guess that as she ages her eyes change a bit.

The wrist band will be removable and the dev team felt it was the missing piece of the puzzle.

We'll have her at Comic Con, all 37" of her and it's true 1:1 scale.

Paul

Thanks for the info, I was on the fence for this but I might just put my order in. Shame a preorder discount wasn’t offered though as it would’ve worked out cheaper direct.

tamaboy311
07-18-2018, 01:52 PM
since I asked P1 and they didn't gave me a straight answer, I have to ask here...will you guys sell the P1 baby blue?

Chronicle CS
07-19-2018, 02:38 AM
since I asked P1 and they didn't gave me a straight answer, I have to ask here...will you guys sell the P1 baby blue?

Yes. Hopefully by the end of the week or next week. Busy with a show, y’know. ;-)

- Robert

tamaboy311
07-19-2018, 11:08 AM
Yes. Hopefully by the end of the week or next week. Busy with a show, y’know. ;-)

- Robert

thanks for the response Rob. keep it up!!

VickPS
07-19-2018, 02:19 PM
https://scontent-lht6-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/935bbaf9a54e01e4b268d613b96f446e/5BD9EE1B/t51.2885-15/e35/36639826_1143324592485825_7989713427780075520_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTgyNTc5OTMxMzY2Mzg4MTUwMw%3D%3D.2

Verdun
07-19-2018, 05:06 PM
https://scontent-lht6-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/935bbaf9a54e01e4b268d613b96f446e/5BD9EE1B/t51.2885-15/e35/36639826_1143324592485825_7989713427780075520_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTgyNTc5OTMxMzY2Mzg4MTUwMw%3D%3D.2

So glad they posted this pic, the last one had a bizarre blue tint over blue.

It looks like they angled the eye slightly forward, difficult to read the perspective.

VickPS
07-20-2018, 06:42 PM
http://www.gokin.it/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SDCC-2018-Chronicle-Booth-013.jpg

http://www.gokin.it/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SDCC-2018-Chronicle-Booth-014.jpg

http://www.gokin.it/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SDCC-2018-Chronicle-Booth-011.jpg

http://www.gokin.it/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SDCC-2018-Chronicle-Booth-012.jpg

http://www.gokin.it/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SDCC-2018-Chronicle-Booth-015.jpg

https://scontent-mxp1-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/75ec122b0fdcdfce9e4279233aeb86fc/5BC95100/t51.2885-15/e35/37051692_1014268965420996_903500702049894400_n.jpg

https://scontent-mxp1-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/582e9bc9985783ac6045471ed2828654/5C119357/t51.2885-15/e35/37313127_423340308170783_4677802564593385472_n.jpg

tamaboy311
07-21-2018, 11:00 AM
did P1 confirmed to you guys that their baby blue piece is completely vinyl and the base is polystone? or are you guys assuming that.

clutch
07-21-2018, 11:32 AM
It says so on Chronicle's preorder page.

tamaboy311
07-21-2018, 12:33 PM
It says so on Chronicle's preorder page.

Thats why i ask. Because on p1's page it doesn't specify what's vinyl and what's poly. The statue may be part vinyl and part poly.

clutch
07-21-2018, 01:56 PM
I can pretty much guarantee that the raptor won't be part vinyl part poly. Never in all my years in this hobby have seen a combination like that. Have you?

tamaboy311
07-21-2018, 03:40 PM
I can pretty much guarantee that the raptor won't be part vinyl part poly. Never in all my years in this hobby have seen a combination like that. Have you?

makes sense. it would be difficult to seam vinyl and poly. I actually don't mind vinyl. those jp horizon models are vinyl and they hold amazing detail. and seen p1 baby blue, it has so much rich detail. just wanted to know, that's all.

FROBAY
07-21-2018, 05:03 PM
P1 easy pass. No Vinyl for me.

tamaboy311
07-21-2018, 05:16 PM
P1 easy pass. No Vinyl for me.

can I ask why? just want to know people's opinion.

Adam_Warlock
07-21-2018, 08:44 PM
can I ask why? just want to know people's opinion.

One cause it's not heavy so polystone diehards can't brag about how hefty their new collectible is and two because apparently vinyl will fall apart over time? Maybe if you live in the desert and the sun is directly on it.

tamaboy311
07-21-2018, 10:02 PM
One cause it's not heavy so polystone diehards can't brag about how hefty their new collectible is and two because apparently vinyl will fall apart over time? Maybe if you live in the desert and the sun is directly on it.

Yeah that's one downside, i like heavy, solid statues.

67L88Stingray
07-22-2018, 12:25 AM
One cause it's not heavy so polystone diehards can't brag about how hefty their new collectible is and two because apparently vinyl will fall apart over time? Maybe if you live in the desert and the sun is directly on it.

Weight is not really a factor, it is more durability and that plastic feeling I am concerned about. Even polystone can deform in harsh conditions, but vinyl will be even more fragile.

tamaboy311
07-22-2018, 01:27 AM
Weight is not really a factor, it is more durability and that plastic feeling I am concerned about. Even polystone can deform in harsh conditions, but vinyl will be even more fragile.

i trust p1 and pretty sure CC will find the best way of producing great vinyl materials for their pieces. better formulas.:D

MikemBHD
07-22-2018, 01:14 PM
http://www.gokin.it/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SDCC-2018-Chronicle-Booth-013.jpg

http://www.gokin.it/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SDCC-2018-Chronicle-Booth-014.jpg

http://www.gokin.it/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SDCC-2018-Chronicle-Booth-011.jpg

http://www.gokin.it/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SDCC-2018-Chronicle-Booth-012.jpg

http://www.gokin.it/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SDCC-2018-Chronicle-Booth-015.jpg

https://scontent-mxp1-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/75ec122b0fdcdfce9e4279233aeb86fc/5BC95100/t51.2885-15/e35/37051692_1014268965420996_903500702049894400_n.jpg

https://scontent-mxp1-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/582e9bc9985783ac6045471ed2828654/5C119357/t51.2885-15/e35/37313127_423340308170783_4677802564593385472_n.jpg


These images make it clear I’m going with CC blue

tamaboy311
07-22-2018, 02:31 PM
These images make it clear I’m going with CC blue

Very nice indeed!!

Enforcer
07-24-2018, 10:51 PM
A few thoughts:

vinyl? Well, okay I guess? I suppose? Does vinyl material in any way warrant a $900 price tag even in baby blue size? Even if it were some super vinyl plastic ancient secret recipe recently rediscovered in the highlands of somewhere in Europe, I don't see vinyl as an expensive material, just a useful material in certain situations. This is one of those times where it feels like customers could save hundreds of dollars but get charged the status quo pricing because it's status quo, it's expected, people will pay it, and it's an uncommon opportunity to make more money than you usually do. But it just seems and feels like that, I am by no means assuming it to be the truth.

At the end of the day, vinyl is plastic. It's just that when it comes to hearing the word vinyl, as American, you can't help but associate it to, well, vinyl in America and how vinyl is the cheapo standard for cheaper products. Although as I understand it, plastics of all types are heavily used in this hobby for one reason or another.

Is it me or does the CC blue seem far more accurate and faithful to the movie since they had access to the digi files? and Prime 1 doesn't, I guess? Because CC's blue looks way better as baby blue while Prime's looks like adult blue but shrunk down. To my eyes CC has a very easy win in appearance but Prime has a very easy win in paint app, even if it's not accurate and it may not be I'd have to look at the scenes again. It's just a really nice looking dinosaur. But at the end of the day I'm an accuracy guy.

I am quite shocked at first when I saw the $899 price tag and was getting ready to eat a hat or a crow or something but then I saw vinyl and new views of Prime blue and I feel comfortable in declaring I need not eat away. Prime clearly had to make sacrifices in order to get the green light to sell their blue. CC is very protective of the licenses they pay for, there is no way they would just agree to a straight up competition out of the kindness of their heart, as how I understand it, the reason Prime 1 has access to JP is because CC allowed it. Now that may be wrong but other people were saying it and I am repeating it.

If somehow someway Prime 1 is totally apart from CC because they are overseas then hey, I got nothing on why they would go with vinyl and a 899 price. So far they have not held back on product or pricing. Maybe they made sacrifices to compete against CC. But my money is on forced sacrifices because CC is selling Prime 1's baby through their website. I don't think anyone would take that gut + nut punch willingly in real competition.

67L88Stingray
07-24-2018, 11:46 PM
P1 has been doing so many great pieces lately I was surprised they went the "value" road with their version of this. Figured it would be huge base, not vinyl, and epic production paint, but be 1.5-2x as much. Just makes it that much easier to decide on the CC version for me if I end up ordering either Blue.

tamaboy311
07-24-2018, 11:50 PM
A few thoughts:

vinyl? Well, okay I guess? I suppose? Does vinyl material in any way warrant a $900 price tag even in baby blue size? Even if it were some super vinyl plastic ancient secret recipe recently rediscovered in the highlands of somewhere in Europe, I don't see vinyl as an expensive material, just a useful material in certain situations. This is one of those times where it feels like customers could save hundreds of dollars but get charged the status quo pricing because it's status quo, it's expected, people will pay it, and it's an uncommon opportunity to make more money than you usually do. But it just seems and feels like that, I am by no means assuming it to be the truth.

At the end of the day, vinyl is plastic. It's just that when it comes to hearing the word vinyl, as American, you can't help but associate it to, well, vinyl in America and how vinyl is the cheapo standard for cheaper products. Although as I understand it, plastics of all types are heavily used in this hobby for one reason or another.

Is it me or does the CC blue seem far more accurate and faithful to the movie since they had access to the digi files? and Prime 1 doesn't, I guess? Because CC's blue looks way better as baby blue while Prime's looks like adult blue but shrunk down. To my eyes CC has a very easy win in appearance but Prime has a very easy win in paint app, even if it's not accurate and it may not be I'd have to look at the scenes again. It's just a really nice looking dinosaur. But at the end of the day I'm an accuracy guy.

I am quite shocked at first when I saw the $899 price tag and was getting ready to eat a hat or a crow or something but then I saw vinyl and new views of Prime blue and I feel comfortable in declaring I need not eat away. Prime clearly had to make sacrifices in order to get the green light to sell their blue. CC is very protective of the licenses they pay for, there is no way they would just agree to a straight up competition out of the kindness of their heart, as how I understand it, the reason Prime 1 has access to JP is because CC allowed it. Now that may be wrong but other people were saying it and I am repeating it.

If somehow someway Prime 1 is totally apart from CC because they are overseas then hey, I got nothing on why they would go with vinyl and a 899 price. So far they have not held back on product or pricing. Maybe they made sacrifices to compete against CC. But my money is on forced sacrifices because CC is selling Prime 1's baby through their website. I don't think anyone would take that gut + nut punch willingly in real competition.

They used the same files too. Imo, P1's BB has better pose, better paint (although is not super accurate)and better detail. And the base is icing on the cake. The vinyl issue...well, yeah, i guess it could have been cheaper.

Chronicle CS
07-25-2018, 02:30 PM
We spoke to Glen at the show and he said that no one from another company contacted them and they may be using someone from the UK office.

Ours is the only one that Glen worked on and since he created several of the dinosaurs from the new films and most certainly is credited and works for ILM, we'll let him tell you what he thinks.

https://www.facebook.com/chroniclecollectibles/videos/2078176975775470/

Paul

Giu3232
07-26-2018, 05:29 AM
The hub for jurassic world 2 was London. Most of the job has been done overthere.

Verdun
07-26-2018, 07:55 AM
I thought it was clear that Prime 1's baby Blue was not from ILM files?

You can see that CC's scales/osteoderms/scutes are flatter, and Prime 1's are rounded.
On CC's see the large pentagonal scale on the right side of face, very different on P1's (see attached image)

I pointed out on the P1 forum that the nodule like osteoderms on the back of the neck (on the Prime 1) are too few and too symetrical compared to trailer screenshots. But i might be wrong there, I can't find a clear image of the back of CC's Blues neck.

If I am right, the artist that did the Prime 1 Blue is amazing, perhaps the scales were taken from the adult. Still the folds on the neck are excellent and very naturalistic.

Steve evans
07-26-2018, 09:40 AM
I thought it was clear that Prime 1's baby Blue was not from ILM files?

You can see that CC's scales/osteoderms/scutes are flatter, and Prime 1's are rounded.
On CC's see the large pentagonal scale on the right side of face, very different on P1's (see attached image)

I pointed out on the P1 forum that the nodule like osteoderms on the back of the neck (on the Prime 1) are too few and too symetrical compared to trailer screenshots. But i might be wrong there, I can't find a clear image of the back of CC's Blues neck.

If I am right, the artist that did the Prime 1 Blue is amazing, perhaps the scales were taken from the adult. Still the folds on the neck are excellent and very naturalistic.

Lips are totally different, which one got it right?

Adam_Warlock
07-26-2018, 10:30 AM
Maybe its the lights but Chronicles looks "flat" shouldn't the raptor skin have a tiny bit more shine?

tamaboy311
07-26-2018, 11:04 AM
Maybe its the lights but Chronicles looks "flat" shouldn't the raptor skin have a tiny bit more shine?

this is one of my issues with CC's.:iagree:

Phil the sixth
07-26-2018, 02:09 PM
Maybe its the lights but Chronicles looks "flat" shouldn't the raptor skin have a tiny bit more shine?

Must be the lights...the 1/1 Raptor bust has a bit of shine and looks perfect in hand.
I expect this to turn out the same.

Chrisrex82
07-26-2018, 08:45 PM
IF P1 is not from an ILM file than BRAVO to that artist because if they did that from photos alone...in some ways that's more impressive

Kefka2200
08-09-2018, 07:30 AM
CC's Blue all the way. Especially because it came first haha

tamaboy311
08-10-2018, 08:35 AM
CC's Blue all the way. Especially because it came first haha

as much as I love CC, this one goes to P1. so much, that I preordered it. haven't been so exited for a piece for a while since now. :D

Chronicle CS
08-10-2018, 02:13 PM
as much as I love CC, this one goes to P1. so much, that I preordered it. haven't been so exited for a piece for a while since now. :D

Just FYI - the one on the left is not ours. Hope you didn’t base your decision on that photo.

- Robert

tamaboy311
08-10-2018, 02:24 PM
Just FYI - the one on the left is not ours. Hope you didn’t base your decision on that photo.

- Robert
:hilarious: come on man!! that's offensive to me. you thinking I was so dumb not to differentiate between a statue and a render. I was just comparing how faithful to that render it is. it was a tough decision tho, to choose between CC's and P1. the pose and base was the key selling point for me. but hey, I have spent around 4K with your products for a reason, I love your work.

Kefka2200
08-13-2018, 11:09 AM
I still like ccs better haha. But to each their own! That’s what collecting is about.

Enforcer
08-13-2018, 11:58 PM
I disagree with assessments. There are clear accuracy issues with prime 1, not that CC did a perfect job but I bet it's hard to match that skin for painting. I'd go the decal route myself, I wouldn't think that'd be difficult with just taking the digi files and making decals from them but I imagine that's not a popular idea with people although didn't they mention they will/already did or might do that for the blue stripes? CC already made the eyes vastly better. I don't know where they are at for the solid white outlines that need to be more off white, but the blue stripe going down her body is clearly way more accurate by CC than Prime's somewhat lazy effort.
http://i64.tinypic.com/2vt2vd3.jpg

I forgot to finish editing that so there's alot of white background after copy/pasting/resizing. bah whatever!

Anyways, you can't really go wrong with either one. I get that the Prime 1 looks better to some but it's just not faithful to baby blue's appearance. As someone who is not going to buy a baby blue, though I sure as hell would love one, and someone who loves what both CC and Prime puts out, I'm just telling ya, CC gets the win here. But the factory carrying that win over to a final product is still in question, as far as I am concerned. For $999 it better. It really looks difficult to work with.

I have far less doubt about Prime 1's proto looking pretty much exactly like what the finished product will appear. Maybe they weren't lazy about baby blue, maybe they just wanted something easier to work with so the finished product will look like the proto. shrug

Steve evans
08-14-2018, 10:48 AM
I disagree with assessments. There are clear accuracy issues with prime 1, not that CC did a perfect job but I bet it's hard to match that skin for painting. I'd go the decal route myself, I wouldn't think that'd be difficult with just taking the digi files and making decals from them but I imagine that's not a popular idea with people although didn't they mention they will/already did or might do that for the blue stripes? CC already made the eyes vastly better. I don't know where they are at for the solid white outlines that need to be more off white, but the blue stripe going down her body is clearly way more accurate by CC than Prime's somewhat lazy effort.
http://i64.tinypic.com/2vt2vd3.jpg

I forgot to finish editing that so there's alot of white background after copy/pasting/resizing. bah whatever!

Anyways, you can't really go wrong with either one. I get that the Prime 1 looks better to some but it's just not faithful to baby blue's appearance. As someone who is not going to buy a baby blue, though I sure as hell would love one, and someone who loves what both CC and Prime puts out, I'm just telling ya, CC gets the win here. But the factory carrying that win over to a final product is still in question, as far as I am concerned. For $999 it better. It really looks difficult to work with.

I have far less doubt about Prime 1's proto looking pretty much exactly like what the finished product will appear. Maybe they weren't lazy about baby blue, maybe they just wanted something easier to work with so the finished product will look like the proto. shrug

Too be honest I think both companies have been lazy regarding the paint scheme. Looking at your photo it clearly shows errors with both paint schemes. It seems to me that a bit of artistic licence has been used rather than following the original pattern.

Fu_Manchu
08-14-2018, 11:07 AM
What I cannot understand is why Prime's not using the digital files from ILM if they are available as they are licensors. Why redo something that is already made??. I mean all the dinosaurs not only this baby blue. There's so many things they are doing wrong with this license...

tamaboy311
08-14-2018, 11:29 AM
What I cannot understand is why Prime's not using the digital files from ILM if they are available as they are licensors. Why redo something that is already made??. I mean all the dinosaurs not only this baby blue. There's so many things they are doing wrong with this license...
in their description from the website, it says they did use the same files. I believe them. the level of detail on the skin is amazingly crisp.

tamaboy311
08-14-2018, 11:31 AM
I disagree with assessments. There are clear accuracy issues with prime 1, not that CC did a perfect job but I bet it's hard to match that skin for painting. I'd go the decal route myself, I wouldn't think that'd be difficult with just taking the digi files and making decals from them but I imagine that's not a popular idea with people although didn't they mention they will/already did or might do that for the blue stripes? CC already made the eyes vastly better. I don't know where they are at for the solid white outlines that need to be more off white, but the blue stripe going down her body is clearly way more accurate by CC than Prime's somewhat lazy effort.
http://i64.tinypic.com/2vt2vd3.jpg

I forgot to finish editing that so there's alot of white background after copy/pasting/resizing. bah whatever!

Anyways, you can't really go wrong with either one. I get that the Prime 1 looks better to some but it's just not faithful to baby blue's appearance. As someone who is not going to buy a baby blue, though I sure as hell would love one, and someone who loves what both CC and Prime puts out, I'm just telling ya, CC gets the win here. But the factory carrying that win over to a final product is still in question, as far as I am concerned. For $999 it better. It really looks difficult to work with.

I have far less doubt about Prime 1's proto looking pretty much exactly like what the finished product will appear. Maybe they weren't lazy about baby blue, maybe they just wanted something easier to work with so the finished product will look like the proto. shrug
I love the way you make your point without been rude. very professional without imposing your opinion. we need more people like you on the forums. I completely understand your point too. I went with the P1 because the way is posed. it looks so dynamic. but the paint app is not as accurate as you said. P1's pose is more like this render.

Fu_Manchu
08-14-2018, 02:31 PM
in their description from the website, it says they did use the same files. I believe them. the level of detail on the skin is amazingly crisp.

They never said that, they hired several digital sculptors to make something that it's already made. And it's pretty obvious that their baby blue doesn't come from the movie digital files, you don't need to be an expert to see that.

Now you can say again that my opinion doesn't matter (that's making a point in a forum without being rude I guess).

tamaboy311
08-14-2018, 02:38 PM
They never said that, they hired several digital sculptors to make something that it's already made. And it's pretty obvious that their baby blue doesn't come from the movie digital files, you don't need to be an expert to see that.

Now you can say again that my opinion doesn't matter (that's making a point in a forum without being rude I guess).

say that again...:stick: I speak with evidence bruh. and you do know there is an ILM studio in Vancouver right?

Fu_Manchu
08-14-2018, 03:05 PM
https://i.imgur.com/N3woP7e.jpg

These two come from the same model yes, dude don't joke with me please

you do know there is an ILM studio in Vancouver right?
They are cold in winter then.

tamaboy311
08-14-2018, 03:16 PM
https://i.imgur.com/N3woP7e.jpg

These two come from the same model yes, dude don't joke with me please


They are cold in winter then.

Ohh so you know more than Prime 1 then? Are you an employee there? You have some ba*** to go against the companies word :stick: same story with Julien, contradicting his work. Ohh and with that pic, im more than happy to have pre-ordered P1's. The level of detail is way crisper.

Fu_Manchu
08-14-2018, 04:13 PM
Good luck with the vinyl

tamaboy311
08-14-2018, 04:39 PM
Good luck with the vinyl

do you know what vinyl even is? jeez you keep shooting yourself in the foot :hilarious: please, educate me. Why should I be concern about vinyl? :dork:

67L88Stingray
08-14-2018, 07:48 PM
do you know what vinyl even is? jeez you keep shooting yourself in the foot :hilarious: please, educate me. Why should I be concern about vinyl? :dork:

Basically feels cheap and isn't as durable.

Chronicle CS
08-14-2018, 08:35 PM
I disagree with assessments. There are clear accuracy issues with prime 1, not that CC did a perfect job but I bet it's hard to match that skin for painting. I'd go the decal route myself, I wouldn't think that'd be difficult with just taking the digi files and making decals from them but I imagine that's not a popular idea with people although didn't they mention they will/already did or might do that for the blue stripes? CC already made the eyes vastly better. I don't know where they are at for the solid white outlines that need to be more off white, but the blue stripe going down her body is clearly way more accurate by CC than Prime's somewhat lazy effort.
http://i64.tinypic.com/2vt2vd3.jpg

I forgot to finish editing that so there's alot of white background after copy/pasting/resizing. bah whatever!

Anyways, you can't really go wrong with either one. I get that the Prime 1 looks better to some but it's just not faithful to baby blue's appearance. As someone who is not going to buy a baby blue, though I sure as hell would love one, and someone who loves what both CC and Prime puts out, I'm just telling ya, CC gets the win here. But the factory carrying that win over to a final product is still in question, as far as I am concerned. For $999 it better. It really looks difficult to work with.

I have far less doubt about Prime 1's proto looking pretty much exactly like what the finished product will appear. Maybe they weren't lazy about baby blue, maybe they just wanted something easier to work with so the finished product will look like the proto. shrug

This screenshot is from the trailer, right? Just a heads up that they were tweaking things right up to release. Best to compare with screenshots from the Blu when it’s available.

- Robert

tamaboy311
08-14-2018, 08:37 PM
Basically feels cheap and isn't as durable.

The "cheap" statement is not a con, that's just opinions. And the duration statement...:

67L88Stingray
08-15-2018, 01:10 AM
The "cheap" statement is not a con, that's just opinions. And the duration statement...:

No it isn't an opinion, go compare a vinyl/PVC piece and then a real statue. And yes it isn't as durable as polystone or fiberglass.

tamaboy311
08-15-2018, 01:39 AM
No it isn't an opinion, go compare a vinyl/PVC piece and then a real statue. And yes it isn't as durable as polystone or fiberglass.

So because a diamond is not heavy it feels cheap? And give me an example of why isn't as durable. And dont give me that "heat" bs. Statues aren't meant to be exposed to direct sunlight. I wonder, if a polystone and a vinyl piece falls to the ground, which one would break the easiest? Don't get me wrong, i love the weight and feel of polystone, but i think vinyl is great when it comes to durability, detail and cost. Is just that you ain't giving me solid facts. Give me examples.

67L88Stingray
08-15-2018, 07:16 AM
So because a diamond is not heavy it feels cheap? And give me an example of why isn't as durable. And dont give me that "heat" bs. Statues aren't meant to be exposed to direct sunlight. I wonder, if a polystone and a vinyl piece falls to the ground, which one would break the easiest? Don't get me wrong, i love the weight and feel of polystone, but i think vinyl is great when it comes to durability, detail and cost. Is just that you ain't giving me solid facts. Give me examples.

That is a straw man fallacy. I never said cheap feeling had anything to do with weight alone and comparing to a diamond means nothing(although a heavier diamond usually means more expensive so it's a doubly poor example). Weight can be a factor, but I just don't like the feel of plastic pieces either. Carbon fiber or something that is actually more desirable BECASUE of it's lightweight would have at least been a decent comparison.

I'd much rather have a fiberglass piece like CC blue vs. a plastic one if it were to fall, less likely to break and easier to repair if it does. As for heat, you calling the heat issue BS just illustrates how little you know about the material differences. I suggest doing your own research. It just isn't a great material for high end large pieces like this. Even polystone can have issues in hot/humid climates or even just around HVAC vents, even out of sunlight, where fiberglass would not.

Verdun
08-15-2018, 07:29 AM
No it isn't an opinion, go compare a vinyl/PVC piece and then a real statue. And yes it isn't as durable as polystone or fiberglass.

Perhaps a mis-type? Polystone is not durable, I could break dinosaur teeth and spines with a folded piece of paper.
I have done such damage with similar force to my favorite Allosaurus vs Camarasaurus statue.

I have to smash this(attached) in coming weeks, in order to recieve my replacement. It won't be thar difficult since it chips every time the tail is attached (very strong magnet).

67L88Stingray
08-15-2018, 07:43 AM
Perhaps a mis-type? Polystone is not durable, I could break dinosaur teeth and spines with a folded piece of paper.
I have done such damage with similar force to my favorite Allosaurus vs Camarasaurus statue.

I have to smash this(attached) in coming weeks, in order to recieve my replacement. It won't be thar difficult since it chips every time the tail is attached (very strong magnet).

A spine tip or small tooth isn't going to be unbreakable in any of these materials, and why would you try to break a statue with a folded piece of paper? Is that some strength test I don't know about? Folded paper can actually be fairly strong, so I don't know what you are saying.

Verdun
08-15-2018, 04:16 PM
Well you know, paper beats rock

tamaboy311
08-15-2018, 04:23 PM
Well you know, paper beats rock

:laugh::laugh: good one!!

67L88Stingray
08-15-2018, 11:37 PM
Well you know, paper beats rock

Hey, if you like playing that with your statues, more power to you.

Verdun
08-16-2018, 06:58 AM
Well I have a polystone statue to break in the coming weeks, if you can devise a test for its durability, I may try it.

Fu_Manchu
08-16-2018, 10:44 AM
do you know what vinyl even is? jeez you keep shooting yourself in the foot :hilarious: please, educate me. Why should I be concern about vinyl? :dork:
Nothing.

https://i.imgur.com/LGxkWOh.jpg

tamaboy311
08-16-2018, 12:23 PM
Nothing.

https://i.imgur.com/LGxkWOh.jpg

:hilarious::hilarious: bro, this is vinyl!!! you can't just compare a POP figure with a Prime 1 statue.

yankeetrex
08-16-2018, 02:34 PM
This argument is getting exhausting. Both CC and P1 got the base file of the baby blue at a few million polys. Both companies are then tasked with sculpting the details that would normally be baked on with normal maps, displacement maps, etc in the film. There is rarely any sculpted on scaling detail on in film CGI. Thus creates the difference between the 2 companies details. To my eye, CC has it right, Prime 1's artist just went hog wild with scales and too much definition. CC's is more subtle, and more believable. I suggest to everyone that we wait until the 4k release to have a better look at the scales on baby blue and see which one really did the better job. But my gut is telling me CC is going to win this one.

tamaboy311
08-16-2018, 02:42 PM
This argument is getting exhausting. Both CC and P1 got the base file of the baby blue at a few million polys. Both companies are then tasked with sculpting the details that would normally be baked on with normal maps, displacement maps, etc in the film. There is rarely any sculpted on scaling detail on in film CGI. Thus creates the difference between the 2 companies details. To my eye, CC has it right, Prime 1's artist just went hog wild with scales and too much definition. CC's is more subtle, and more believable. I suggest to everyone that we wait until the 4k release to have a better look at the scales on baby blue and see which one really did the better job. But my gut is telling me CC is going to win this one.

couldn't have said it a better way!!! me personally, went with P1 because I love the pose and the base. CC is amazing too.:goodpost:

Verdun
08-17-2018, 07:35 AM
This argument is getting exhausting. Both CC and P1 got the base file of the baby blue at a few million polys. Both companies are then tasked with sculpting the details that would normally be baked on with normal maps, displacement maps, etc in the film. There is rarely any sculpted on scaling detail on in film CGI.(...)

I was wondering about this. I figured the in film rendering is likely using maps, but wouldn't those maps be made from sculpted details?

yankeetrex
08-17-2018, 04:54 PM
I was wondering about this. I figured the in film rendering is likely using maps, but wouldn't those maps be made from sculpted details?

Yes, but those companies very rarely if ever release that asset to anyone outside of the producing company. All it takes is one employee that downloads the original and reproductions can be made unofficially.

tamaboy311
02-11-2019, 01:37 AM
P1 is definitely more accurate IMO.

Boboli
02-11-2019, 02:06 AM
P1 is definitely more accurate IMO.
Thanks for the pics
Wow looks good so far ! Glass eye as well !
Ordered mine a while back .

Phil the sixth
02-11-2019, 07:48 AM
I don't know tama...I'm looking at both and I get the feeling that CC's version looks more like Baby Blue from the movie..I've pre-ordered CC's Baby Blue for that reason but what I can tell is that the factory paintjob will most probably be much better on the Prime 1 version.I'm still hoping for a good paintjob on CC's Baby Blue but if it turns out crappy like their recent JP/JW production pieces I'm cancelling immediately.

tamaboy311
02-11-2019, 10:11 AM
I don't know tama...I'm looking at both and I get the feeling that CC's version looks more like Baby Blue from the movie..I've pre-ordered CC's Baby Blue for that reason but what I can tell is that the factory paintjob will most probably be much better on the Prime 1 version.I'm still hoping for a good paintjob on CC's Baby Blue but if it turns out crappy like their recent JP/JW production pieces I'm cancelling immediately.

I understand brother. At the end, both are baby blue and thats whats important :thumbs2:

67L88Stingray
02-11-2019, 10:17 AM
P1 is definitely more accurate IMO.

Can't tell anything by those horrid pics. I didn't order either one yet, with so much new stuff coming out I think I may just stay with JP1.

Phil the sixth
02-11-2019, 10:59 AM
...with so much new stuff coming out I think I may just stay with JP1.

I hear you stingray and I would like to do the same but I can't...these last two new pieces from Prime 1 (I-rex & Spino) have left me speechless...these are mindblowingly beautifull dioramas imho.I've passed on their T-rex & Triceratops but I feel these are on another level of awesomeness...

67L88Stingray
02-11-2019, 11:55 PM
I hear you stingray and I would like to do the same but I can't...these last two new pieces from Prime 1 (I-rex & Spino) have left me speechless...these are mindblowingly beautifull dioramas imho.I've passed on their T-rex & Triceratops but I feel these are on another level of awesomeness...

I don't really care for either of those myself. Spino never did anything for me, and Irex mouth seems too wide open and not a huge fan of the dead prey on the base.

tamaboy311
02-13-2019, 10:48 AM
I don't really care for either of those myself. Spino never did anything for me, and Irex mouth seems too wide open and not a huge fan of the dead prey on the base.

A better pic of the statue. The other is a render from universal's ride. But the overall sculpt of P1, i feel its way more accurate. Again, IMO.

Phil the sixth
05-12-2019, 10:55 AM
There's a video of the factory counter-sample of CC's Baby Blue on youtube.

Looks great!

clutch
05-23-2019, 12:46 PM
Factory sample.

Chrisrex82
05-23-2019, 01:12 PM
P1 looks better

El Diablo
05-23-2019, 02:33 PM
Looks pretty good if that is indeed a factory sample, looks alot better than the P1 factory sample the paint job on that looked very amateurish

Phil the sixth
05-23-2019, 04:55 PM
Looks pretty good if that is indeed a factory sample, looks alot better than the P1 factory sample the paint job on that looked very amateurish

Agreed.This has the organic skin patterns as seen in the movie.Prime 1's version has just white lines crisscrossing over the body/leg which is totally inaccurate.

It is what I've been saying before...the P1 looks very toyish in appearance because of the chosen paintapplication.

tamaboy311
05-23-2019, 05:32 PM
If im not mistaken, this is a sample in display. Glad i went with P1. Better blending.

yankeetrex
06-26-2019, 03:26 PM
So I emailed CC about getting on the waitlist for their Baby blue, what do you think my odds are that I get on the list and can secure one? They haven't responded in a couple of days, so i'm starting to think none...lol

franktank
06-26-2019, 04:54 PM
https://www.sideshow.com/collectibles/jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-baby-blue-chronicle-collectibles-903634



So I emailed CC about getting on the waitlist for their Baby blue, what do you think my odds are that I get on the list and can secure one? They haven't responded in a couple of days, so i'm starting to think none...lol

yankeetrex
06-27-2019, 07:46 AM
https://www.sideshow.com/collectibles/jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-baby-blue-chronicle-collectibles-903634

I should have laid down the back story, I have a po for the indominus rex that I want to switch to the baby blue, and use a CC credit I have to go toward it and pay the difference. I can't do that with sideshow. I could always cancel it, but I lose a chunk of the PO money, because cc keeps a percentage that can only be used as a credit.

67L88Stingray
06-28-2019, 01:08 AM
Try calling them if you haven't gotten an email reply

Kefka2200
07-30-2019, 09:44 AM
I just talked to their customer service and they said she is slated for August still. So hopefully it sticks!

Verdun
07-31-2019, 07:07 AM
Factory sample.

Really glad to see they improved the lips(since 2018 SDCC?), makes a huge difference.

Looks like P1 improved the grey/tan markings since their reveal.
Also still don't think the change to the dark eyes is correct.

Kefka2200
08-08-2019, 06:53 AM
I emailed chronicle and spoke to Taylor. They said that Blue is still slated to come in this month or next, and they showed me the outer carton for the box from the factory. Exciting!

Verdun
12-01-2019, 04:25 PM
EDIT: sorry, I thought I was in the Prime 1 page. I'm moved this post to that forum

tamaboy311
12-01-2019, 05:00 PM
Wait, i already paid my shipping but i haven't received tracking or anything. What the hell?

Verdun
12-01-2019, 08:04 PM
Wait, i already paid my shipping but i haven't received tracking or anything. What the hell?

Perhaps busy? Mine did not ship until 2 days after the invoice. Do you have adult Blue coming as well? I have not been invoiced for it yet, but was expected in same shipment.

tamaboy311
12-01-2019, 09:20 PM
Perhaps busy? Mine did not ship until 2 days after the invoice. Do you have adult Blue coming as well? I have not been invoiced for it yet, but was expected in same shipment.

I paid shipping for both.

yankeetrex
12-02-2019, 03:00 PM
Wait, i already paid my shipping but i haven't received tracking or anything. What the hell?

Thanksgiving holiday delay most likely, odds are they go out this week sometime.....hoping to get notice that I was able to grab one from the waitlist.....Sent a begging email, not like it will help,haha. They mentioned they are counting what they have and seeing how many they will have left for waitlist/cancelled orders and will let me know soon. Here's to hoping!