Hard Hero Is King??

[perfusin]

WOW!! I have been looking at the new HARD HERO statues and works in progress and they look INCREDIBLE!! Beautiful sculpts now if only they hooked up with DC!! Hail the NEW KING of Marvel sculpts!

[Bullseye]

I agree that they have made a great start to their lineup. Each new sculpt seemingly better than the previous one. But so far the only one's i'm interested in picking up are the Hulk and Thing. I liked the Silversurfer too but with Bowens standing one and the Attakus Kirby (still the best IMO) there wasn't enough room for him.

With regard to 'King' of the Marvel sculpts i disagree. There is no king of the Marvel sculpts as there are so many talented sculptors with their own individual style and take on the character. With Bowen, HH, Sideshow and DST raising their game it has never been a better time to be a Marvel statue collector.

Certainly if i were begining collecting statues this is a great line to begin with as you have a chance to be a completist.

[Gianco]

WOW!! I have been looking at the new HARD HERO statues and works in progress and they look INCREDIBLE!! Beautiful sculpts now if only they hooked up with DC!! Hail the NEW KING of Marvel sculpts!
I think Bowen Designs is No. 1 for Marvel, HH have awesome pieces but they are just beginning the journey! Just IMO :)

[DDura711]

I think Bowen Designs is No. 1 for Marvel, HH have awesome pieces but they are just beginning the journey! Just IMO :)
But put the first few bowen pieces against the first Hard Hero pieces.
The quality kept getting better over the years of Bowen. Just look at Daredevil's full size to lets say.... Venom. The over all quality and style is leaps and bounds over what it started at.
SO if Hard Hero starts like this, where else can they go but up.
The only reason I haven't picked up the HH stuff yet is the lack of room and funds. YET.

[heirtoasguard]

I agree with you Dura. it can only get better. but Bowen is still no. 1 though. but damn HH is expensive.

[bat_collector]

Seth is finaly showing off his impressive sculpting skills. Great line, and I want as many pieces as I can get.

[bigben7]

got thor today and looks fantastic along side silver surfer,the size of the 2 go well together!i cannot wait for the next ones !!

[Kamron2]

I agree that everyone has their own styles that they prefer and it's kind of silly to make a competition out of art. However, I have been waiting for a line with the style of HH since I first started paying attention to comic statues. I plan on buying as many HH pieces as my bank account allows!

[lord odin]

Seth is finaly showing off his impressive sculpting skills. Great line, and I want as many pieces as I can get.
I agree. :buttrock:

[The General]

They're are definitely looking strong. IMO of the current companies putting out Marvel product Hard Hero is right up there with Sideshow on top of the mountain. Allot of cool stuff from everyone but my rankings as far as releasing the coolest stuff are...

Sideshow & Hard Hero are tied for first. Sideshows prices hurt them but you can't deny their work, it's amazing.
Bowen Designs is a close second.
Diamond is last. (What a shocker)

Now this is just my opinion so don't get crazy, especially you Bowen fanatics.

[Wooktroop]

Seth has that classic style im looking for. keep it in the late 60's mid 70's and i will buy every piece.

[Kirk Durfey]

Seth is an amazing sculptor, That Conan and Sonja of his are fantastic - My only problem with all these cool statues from the various companies is that I can't afford them all, and even if I could I have no place to display them. I love Bowens pieces, but I only have one full-size - Classic Black Panther. Just too many great pieces coming out!
The Thing and the Hulk are two of my favorite characters, and I will be getting these two from Hard Hero :buttrock:

[speedracer]

Hard hero has a winning combination..a huge scale, classic art and excellent character choices..Don't forget Low runs..you can't beat that seth is putting HH on the map..=)

[Jameshowlett]

I love the new Hard Hero statues I agree with most of what was said in this thread,I love the statues too, Sideshow as well, but I think it's a bit to early to be Hailing them the NEW KING of MARVEL.

[comicfan]

bowen stills number one imo...hh have a very nice start now that seth is doing them..lets wait and see...we need more hh stuff thats for sure

[cap70]

I REALLY like what's coming out from HH these days, top notch stuff, but I also like a LOT Bowen pieces, so for me, both companies are amazing, and the only one that wins in the end are us, with that many cool options to choose from. :)
Bring them on, I will get them all! :buttrock:

[Meteor Man]

bowen stills number one imo...hh have a very nice start now that seth is doing them..lets wait and see...we need more hh stuff thats for sure


Dude, Seth has been doing them from the start! He's done all of the HH stuff for Rob as far as I'm aware, from the fantasy statues, IE Conan, Red Sonja, etc. to the Transformers, to the X-Men Evolution maquettes. Seth Vandable is an awesome sculptor, and I have most of the Evolution maquettes, and will be buying some of this Marvel line that HH is doing. But, I will also be buying the stuff I like from Bowen as well. It's a win/win situation for the fans to have so much awesome product out there to choose from! Keep up the good work Rob, Seth, and all of the great sculptors and owners out there who are bringing these amazing sculpts to us lucky fans! :buttrock: Huuu Ahhhhh!

[Sniper]

I wouldnt say the king, but they carry some serious weight now and have established themselves as a force to be reckoned with ....

[lord odin]

I REALLY like what's coming out from HH these days, top notch stuff, but I also like a LOT Bowen pieces, so for me, both companies are amazing, and the only one that wins in the end are us, with that many cool options to choose from. :)
Bring them on, I will get them all! :buttrock:
Well said.

[Jesse321]

Hail the NEW KING of Marvel sculpts!They're good, but they're not anywhere near THAT good yet.

[migsmack]

I'm a bowen guy myself but I will get my hands on the HH hulk and thing and with the upcoming bowen lineup already confirmed. Well hell I don't need sneek peaks. This is a fun time in statue collecting for sure. Infact I think I'm going to pick up that HH surfer because it was the first in the HH lineup and only 500 edition run, not to mention a great sculpt to boot. I'm getting my keys now I know where one is....

[SirConor]

They're good, but they're not anywhere near THAT good yet.


Amen. I appreciate the sculpts for their quality, but I don't think they comparable to BD (HH hawkeye vs Randy's hawkeye for example) or the first few Sideshow pieces (ignoring the obvious construction flaws in the Wolvie/Sabes dio). HH strikes me as being more Maquette like, where other companies make the characters feel less cartoony and more real....

[spiderman2224]

there ok i dont like the cap and the thor but i do like the iron fist and hulk the thing and namor are ok to.

[Jameshowlett]

Amen. I appreciate the sculpts for their quality, but I don't think they comparable to BD (HH hawkeye vs Randy's hawkeye for example) or the first few Sideshow pieces (ignoring the obvious construction flaws in the Wolvie/Sabes dio). HH strikes me as being more Maquette like, where other companies make the characters feel less cartoony and more real....
Yes, very well said. I feel the same. That Cartoony feel is evident in the HH pieces.

[Achiever]

They are a little cartoony, but that Thor is amazing.

[Neomotion]

Yes, very well said. I feel the same. That Cartoony feel is evident in the HH pieces.


Uuuuh, aren't all comics cartoony? Isn't that why they are comics?

I absolutly love HH. Prices are a bit high, but so is quality. And that will always last longer then price. So i guess i am just gonna have to get the Thing and Hulk, and eventually Iron Man when they get around to it.

[Wooktroop]

That Cartoony feel is evident in the HH pieces.

this is what i love about hard hero. the bright high saturation color and smooth lines really give the characters that pop art feel which is very true to how they appear in the actual pages of a 1969 comic book. Also the poses are dynamic without over doing it and not stiff and boring, these really look like they are coming to life right off the page. It is exactly the timeless look and classic feel i want to collect.

[perfusin]

this is what i love about hard hero. the bright high saturation color and smooth lines really give the characters that pop art feel which is very true to how they appear in the actual pages of a 1969 comic book. Also the poses are dynamic without over doing it and not stiff and boring, these really look like they are coming to life right off the page. It is exactly the timeless look and classic feel i want to collect.

EXACTLY how I feel, Wooktroop I couldn't have said it better myself, Thanks!

[lord odin]

this is what i love about hard hero. the bright high saturation color and smooth lines really give the characters that pop art feel which is very true to how they appear in the actual pages of a 1969 comic book. Also the poses are dynamic without over doing it and not stiff and boring, these really look like they are coming to life right off the page. It is exactly the timeless look and classic feel i want to collect.
Well said. :buttrock:

[The General]

this is what i love about hard hero. the bright high saturation color and smooth lines really give the characters that pop art feel which is very true to how they appear in the actual pages of a 1969 comic book. Also the poses are dynamic without over doing it and not stiff and boring, these really look like they are coming to life right off the page. It is exactly the timeless look and classic feel i want to collect.
I totally agree. I love the HH style. It's a perfect mix of maquette and statue. I does look they jumped right out of the comic book. Got my Thor the other day and I love it. I also like the slightly bigger scale of the HH statues.

[cap70]

Thor it's amazing, so is the SS. I'm really, really looking forward to this line.

[oxbeard]

Yeah, I'm really looking forward to these myself.

Figures though, the main reason some people dislike the HH pieces and the reason I love them. That 'cartoony' look. :laugh:

[Seth Vandable]

Yes, very well said. I feel the same. That Cartoony feel is evident in the HH pieces.

You left out the fact that they are too statue-y, hero-y, and painty-upied.

[StatueItis]

I think the amount of talk going on about Hard Hero speaks for itself. They got me interested, just ordered the Silver Surfer. Sure some of the sculpts I like and others would pass on, but one thing for certain, they have their own style. It seems like the more I look at their stuff the more I like it. Keep up the good work Seth!

[Endless Wake]

HH has a couple of dozen more pieces to release before they can be labeled the New King. Nice work so far.

[speedracer]

I think hard hero is just awesome..the size and the style..I'm getting hulk and thing..=)

[wellwisher]

I agree that they have made a great start to their lineup. Each new sculpt seemingly better than the previous one. But so far the only one's i'm interested in picking up are the Hulk and Thing. I liked the Silversurfer too but with Bowens standing one and the Attakus Kirby (still the best IMO) there wasn't enough room for him.

With regard to 'King' of the Marvel sculpts i disagree. There is no king of the Marvel sculpts as there are so many talented sculptors with their own individual style and take on the character. With Bowen, HH, Sideshow and DST raising their game it has never been a better time to be a Marvel statue collector.

Certainly if i were begining collecting statues this is a great line to begin with as you have a chance to be a completist.

Now, Now..let others have their opinion like you want yours.
Some might want a King. While you like the Attakus SS statue. Don't know why you feel it looks anything like Kirby's Surfer, but that's your opinion. Right?

[Bullseye]

Now, Now..let others have their opinion like you want yours.
Some might want a King. While you like the Attakus SS statue. Don't know why you feel it looks anything like Kirby's Surfer, but that's your opinion. Right?

My response was neither offensive nor negative towards the title of this thread. I was just giving a counter opinion, which by its very nature a title like this seeks. I like the direction in which Seth is going with this line and if I did not collect other lines I might have been inclined to pick them all up. As it is I will order the Hulk and Thing as stand alone pieces. I look forward to what else Seth comes up with.

I’m sure Elvis would turn in his grave if some new singer with two or three hits was then called the ‘King’. That title is reserved for someone who has been in the industry for a little longer than Hard Hero has been (referring to the Marvel line in particular). I’m sure Hard Hero will progress even further and get even better but I’m sure both Rob and Seth would admit they have a long way to go before they are crowned Kings. I hope it happens for them, as they both seem to be very nice individuals.

And please don't use this 'Now, now on me...' that right is reserved only for my mother and father whom i respect enough to take such a chastising.

[lord odin]

The thing I like about Hard Hero is the sculpts are awesome and they just started there line with some of my all time favorites.
Thor
Hawkeye
Thing
Hulk
I look foward to getting Iron Man,wolverine and Dr.Doom.

[deaconbluezzz]

WOW!! I have been looking at the new HARD HERO statues and works in progress and they look INCREDIBLE!! Beautiful sculpts now if only they hooked up with DC!! Hail the NEW KING of Marvel sculpts!

Ummmmmm...

No.

[roochka]

WOW!! I have been looking at the new HARD HERO statues and works in progress and they look INCREDIBLE!! Beautiful sculpts now if only they hooked up with DC!! Hail the NEW KING of Marvel sculpts!

I myself am a great fan and collector of the Bowen Line; I already eat with Spider-Man, sleep with Elektra, Shower with Thor and s**t with the Hulk ... :laugh: I have to give credit to HH however, they seem to be doing a great job, perhaps even a better start than Bowen had. And so I decided to get the HH line as well (where they will go is the actual problem).
As for the King title ... I don't know; I seriously have my doubts wether they can actually pull up such a good show like Bowen did. Nevertheless, "Hail thee HH" :buttrock:

[Sniper]

Maybe Hh Is Now Elevated To The Queen With All Their Grimy Ways.....

[loricstone]

Wow! Where'd you find this old thread Sniper! You must have gone way deep down into the catacombs. :)

[rjb America]

I believe sideshow is #1, with HH a close second. Bowens FS are starting to lack based on $$$, but Bowen has great minis, DST is a far third except maybe the silver age X-Men and FF.

[TheMadTitan]

HH has done great so far IMO. However, I would say HH will become the best of the bests in the business when they push villains out like Dr Doom, Magneto, Thanos..etc. You can't possible be the King if you haven't done any Marvel bad-asses to complete the Superheroes team vs Supervillains team for the line, right??

[ickwinzs]

King? How can anyone justify calling them King with just a few pieces done in the Marvel Line. I do think Seth's sculpt are by far some of the best renditions being done right now though. But no way can you call HH and Rob Putz king yet.

[TheMadTitan]

King? How can anyone justify calling them King with just a few pieces done in the Marvel Line. I do think Seth's sculpt are by far some of the best renditions being done right now though. But no way can you call HH and Rob Putz king yet.

True. Thats why they need to show us some villains... Making villains isn't exactly the same as making heroes.

[loricstone]

King? How can anyone justify calling them King with just a few pieces done in the Marvel Line. I do think Seth's sculpt are by far some of the best renditions being done right now though. But no way can you call HH and Rob Putz king yet.

I would have to totally agree and that's coming from one of the biggest HH fans. If I had to choose places, SS would definitely be #1 (most amount of products/phenomenal sculpts and good paint apps; Bowen would have to be #2 because they produce so many Marvel statues and MBs; Hard Hero comes #3 due to the very limited products in a year, also, they don't have any other lines to help them with more output of product in a year. However, they are gaining on the other two companies just due to the best overall products from top to bottom in the industry. Also, their newly introduced Mini Statue line overseas is really nice as well.

Hard Hero definitely needs at least two-three statue lines going considering the amount of products made in a year. I'm not saying their not my favorite company that makes Marvel statues, I'm saying that they need to improve in certain areas in order to be considered amongst the elite by other people in this hobby.

[titan7170]

They are nice sculpts, Im looking forward to Ironman and really want to see any progress on Angel. I would have to say that to be king you have to reign supreme in some catagory. They arent as big as Sideshow PF or comiquette so they dont have it there, they arent more detailed than sideshow pieces either??

so other than these 2 catagories what would make them the king??:confused: What other merit would you use to show they excell supremely in some area?

[snappahead]

They are nice sculpts, Im looking forward to Ironman and really want to see any progress on Angel. I would have to say that to be king you have to reign supreme in some catagory. They arent as big as Sideshow PF or comiquette so they dont have it there, they arent more detailed than sideshow pieces either??

so other than these 2 catagories what would make them the king??:confused: What other merit would you use to show they excell supremely in some area?

Well, I do think they're king in the classic comic style statue category. Lot's of people might disagree..looks at Ish:), but I think they're the only one's doing the classic looks of these characters. Bowen will occassionaly go retro, but HH does it exclusively..(well, except for the Hulk for some reason) and that's what I love about HHs statues. Seth captures that retro look perfectly. Like a cross between Romita Sr and Steranko. Because of that, they stand out very well to the competition.

[StatueItis]

Well, I do think they're king in the classic comic style statue category. Lot's of people might disagree..looks at Ish:), but I think they're the only one's doing the classic looks of these characters. Bowen will occassionaly go retro, but HH does it exclusively..(well, except for the Hulk for some reason) and that's what I love about HHs statues. Seth captures that retro look perfectly. Like a cross between Romita Sr and Steranko. Because of that, they stand out very well to the competition.

I am really looking forward to the Classic Iron Man. Also I've had some different DareDevil Full Size statues but never any I was to excited about so hopefully we will see a picture of that soon. If I am very lucky my ReelArt Snow Giants and Iron Man will be here by next month...cross your fingers!!!!

[titan7170]

Well, I do think they're king in the classic comic style statue category. Lot's of people might disagree..looks at Ish:), but I think they're the only one's doing the classic looks of these characters. Bowen will occassionaly go retro, but HH does it exclusively..(well, except for the Hulk for some reason) and that's what I love about HHs statues. Seth captures that retro look perfectly. Like a cross between Romita Sr and Steranko. Because of that, they stand out very well to the competition.

Very true I have always felt the one thing they did represent very well was the transition from 2d to 3d. It looks like some of the drawings just got pulled off the page. Its not like other companies, which Ive seen pick a character then mold the generic hero face and body into a certain costume. You look at the comic then look at the sculpt and say "Who the hell is that?" HH statues are very era specific and mostly all of them represent the 60's/early 70's at least for me.