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Underdog07
12-21-2005, 07:59 PM
With a handful of the members of Alpha Flight being released to start off Phase 3, who thinks that Vindicator (limited to 2000 pieces) will be the next non-exclusive/non-variant mini-bust to top the $100 value?

sellin71
12-21-2005, 08:08 PM
Magic 8 ball says, "Possible"

kirthew
12-21-2005, 08:09 PM
Hmmm... maybe I might have to go buy a couple more...

Dj-B13
12-21-2005, 08:10 PM
Im thinking this will be too. :buttrock:

Endless Wake
12-21-2005, 08:11 PM
By this time next year Vindicator will be a $200 bust. It's limited to 2000, it has chrome, he's the leader and most if not all of the team will be out this year.

Meta Jon
12-21-2005, 08:15 PM
Magic 8 ball says, "Possible"
Funny, my magic 8 ball said "try again later"

Underdog07
12-21-2005, 08:49 PM
What is the last regular edition marvel bust to top the $100 mark? Did any from Phase 2 do it?

nolilia
12-21-2005, 08:52 PM
edition size wise, leader wise I would say a big YES!!!!!

Endless Wake
12-21-2005, 08:56 PM
What is the last regular edition marvel bust to top the $100 mark? Did any from Phase 2 do it?
None of the reg editions from Phase 2 yet, but after Vindicator I'd say Classic Black Panther and Classic Wolverine to pass $100.

ant-man
12-21-2005, 09:12 PM
I hope so...i bought 16 of them....yay!!!!!

sellin71
12-21-2005, 10:24 PM
Funny, my magic 8 ball said "try again later"
Keep shaking it :laugh:

mwf6171
12-21-2005, 10:32 PM
None of the reg editions from Phase 2 yet, but after Vindicator I'd say Classic Black Panther and Classic Wolverine to pass $100.


How do you figure that EW?? Aren't there 3000 or 3500 Wolvies??

Charger RT
12-21-2005, 10:51 PM
Applying the bang for buck rational, cant see it happening especially since Full size statues with runs of 2000 are being offered for less than $100....also anything that has been considered as rare (not your normal run) ie Red Angel and Iron Fist are infact falling in price and are in some instances can be found under the sub $90 mark

bigben7
12-21-2005, 10:56 PM
green quick silver is a regular edition.it goes for over 100.00

nolilia
12-21-2005, 11:12 PM
Applying the bang for buck rational, cant see it happening especially since Full size statues with runs of 2000 are being offered for less than $100....also anything that has been considered as rare (not your normal run) ie Red Angel and Iron Fist are infact falling in price and are in some instances can be found under the sub $90 mark

Vindicator is a different case IMO. Most of the time busts sells more than statues in the long run.

Charger RT
12-21-2005, 11:20 PM
green quick silver is a regular edition.it goes for over 100.00

Yep certain places asking over $100 even on ebay stores, but at the end of the day that’s another one that can be found for less than $100…many places are asking for over $100 bucks but its another thing getting that price…some retailers in my view have jacked the price up and now their stuck and forced to discount to move the stock...therefore market has been artificially driven high to begin with…also in my view Guardian aint one of those iconic characters like Thor, Hulk and Cap that one will go out of their way to pay well over $100…

Ish
12-21-2005, 11:26 PM
hopefully yes.

bigben7
12-21-2005, 11:30 PM
100.00 for green quicksilver is a good deal
i love the bust! bowen needs to make more silverage costumed busts

Eye of Agamotto
12-21-2005, 11:41 PM
Bigben, I too would like to see more silverage, silverage X-men should be made with a matching professor X. Allot of silverage villians would be good also, Sauron and Polaris would look fantastic.

Charger RT, your rational is valid concerning Vindicator not rising in price however Black Bolt is a prime example of a team leader bust that rose upon the completion of the team. I remember BB hovered for a very long time (years) at $100 now to command in the $200 range.

Pointing out correctly that you can nab a full size statue for roughly $100 bucks shows IMO that they are the better buy but not the more higher sought after piece.

nolilia
12-21-2005, 11:46 PM
Bigben,
Charger RT, your rational is valid concerning Vindicator not rising in price however Black Bolt is a prime example of a team leader bust that rose upon the completion of the team. I remember BB hovered for a very long time (years) at $100 now to command in the $200 range.



That's exactly what I mean. Black Bolt and Vindy are both leaders. Black bolt is now in the $150 or more price range with a larger run (4000) compare to Vindy of only 2000. Vindy will not be an exception.

Endless Wake
12-21-2005, 11:51 PM
How do you figure that EW?? Aren't there 3000 or 3500 Wolvies??
Correct 3000, the lowest run on any Wolverine bust PLUS it's the only Wolverine bust that lines up with phase 2 & 3 busts PLUS it's the costume he's wearing now PLUS X-Men 3 is coming out in a few months which will increase demand for this piece and most importantly of all...it's Wolverine :) .

Eye of Agamotto
12-22-2005, 12:03 AM
Nolilia, I know that is what your meant, I am the all seeing all knowing eye :inquisiti

Endless Wake
12-22-2005, 12:11 AM
Vindicator should pass $100 mark once Sasquatch and the related hype from hunting the blue cube version becomes the main focus of Bowen collectors. From there Vindy should jump with each team member release; Snowbird, Puck, and Snowbird as White Sasquatch, plus any other Alphas.

Ish
12-22-2005, 12:16 AM
this may be the only mb team i'll be getting so i hope you're right.

kar-kar
12-22-2005, 01:54 AM
Vindicator will most definitely go past the $100.00 mark IMO.The last have sold on ebay for $70.00 and all the stores have them for $90.00

claws181
12-22-2005, 02:09 AM
I think I'll pick 1 up at my LCS. They still have a couple at retail.

Dj-B13
12-22-2005, 02:20 AM
Vindicator should pass $100 mark once Sasquatch and the related hype from hunting the blue cube version becomes the main focus of Bowen collectors. From there Vindy should jump with each team member release; Snowbird, Puck, and Snowbird as White Sasquatch, plus any other Alphas.


Yep thats exaclty what Im thinking, getting the black bolt treatment! :buttrock:

fhurtado3627
12-22-2005, 04:04 AM
Yeah, $100 real soon!

Underdog07
12-22-2005, 12:12 PM
What was retail on this piece, $50?

Anyone know any LCSs in NJ or NY that still have this piece in stock?

pmpknface
12-22-2005, 12:16 PM
Maybe I should have gotten this one, but I just really never cared about Alpha Flight so I'm gonna save some $ and not start now.

But for what it's worth, this certainly has a shot at getting to the $100 mark sooner than any NON-BDCC Exclusive.

mwf6171
12-22-2005, 12:22 PM
Unless the rock/snow base looks better, would anyone be willing a straight up trade for a blue cube tree line base??

nolilia
12-22-2005, 02:22 PM
Nolilia, I know that is what your meant, I am the all seeing all knowing eye :inquisiti

Do you think he will reach the Iron Man modern mini bust area?

Eye of Agamotto
12-22-2005, 03:03 PM
No, nolilia, I do not and will support my opinion.

Iron Man is a Marvel mainstay for 40 some odd years, demand amoung collectors for Irom Man period is larger.

If we are comparing apples to apples Black Bolt and Vindicator share the largest similarities when doing a comparison analysis and it should be reasoned that both will eventually reach the same value.

I also feel something which should be taken into regard which would effect this rationale would be considering the popularity of Alpha Flight as opposed to the Inhumans. To make these assumptions is Alpha Flight to X-men what Inhumans are to Fantastic Four? For the 80's generation of readers Alpha Flight played a prominant role in X-men history however the Inhumans may not have acheived the sustained sucess of their own title but they have been around longer.

syzygy
12-27-2005, 02:17 PM
just bought a vindicator MB (#628) at an LCS over the Christmas weekend. paid $45.00 retail for him :D , and they still had another one for the same price.

Ish
12-27-2005, 02:21 PM
just bought a vindicator MB (#628) at an LCS over the Christmas weekend. paid $45.00 retail for him :D , and they still had another one for the same price.
get it wait until sasquash comes out.

rychehitman
12-27-2005, 03:20 PM
No, nolilia, I do not and will support my opinion.

Iron Man is a Marvel mainstay for 40 some odd years, demand amoung collectors for Irom Man period is larger.

If we are comparing apples to apples Black Bolt and Vindicator share the largest similarities when doing a comparison analysis and it should be reasoned that both will eventually reach the same value.

I also feel something which should be taken into regard which would effect this rationale would be considering the popularity of Alpha Flight as opposed to the Inhumans. To make these assumptions is Alpha Flight to X-men what Inhumans are to Fantastic Four? For the 80's generation of readers Alpha Flight played a prominant role in X-men history however the Inhumans may not have acheived the sustained sucess of their own title but they have been around longer.


You really cannot compare the two....

I dont think Vindicator will ever reach IM $$$, but I could see it going tor $100 once the rest of the team sees the light of day...I really wish the Alphans all had a unified theme to their bases...

How do you feel about the base of the Iron Man mb Eye?

Eye of Agamotto
12-27-2005, 08:35 PM
You really cannot compare the two....

I dont think Vindicator will ever reach IM $$$, but I could see it going tor $100 once the rest of the team sees the light of day...I really wish the Alphans all had a unified theme to their bases...

How do you feel about the base of the Iron Man mb Eye?

Wassup Ryche, I agree about the unifying theme, something to tie them all together. I think Randy is assembling them to make a nice display if you get them all (just like the Inhumans) man it's great that Randy pays attention to these old school groups in that way!! I can attest that Hulk, Thor, Ant-man, Iron-man and Giant-man/wasp go very nicely together also.

The base for the IM mini bust is okay, nothing really spectacular just some circutry but it fits well with all the basis of the earlier pieces. I regret not buying another IM when they were $30 so that I could chrome it, I think in chrome it would look really good, I wonder if any forum alum has done/did that?

Hey Ryche, how many real hard core Alpha flight fans are there, I am thinking that the Inhumans have probably more?

Tetragrammaton
12-27-2005, 08:54 PM
Alpha Flight could have been a great book if Guardian wasn't killed in issue 12 and they would have kept the team linked more closely with the X-Men.

http://tinypic.com/j8z21e.jpg

Eye of Agamotto
12-27-2005, 09:04 PM
Yeah Tet, if they would have kepted that stereotypical team dynamic with the captain america/superman archetype in there it may have been even more popular.

You can say allot about John Bryne but one thing that for sure is at that time in his career his was making fun comics to read. For those who read these issues when they were coming out like me it's a trip to see them getting this attention.

syzygy
12-27-2005, 09:09 PM
yep, and the twins make for an obvious 2 pack offering somewhere down the road...

Jesse321
12-27-2005, 09:54 PM
Wassup Ryche, I agree about the unifying theme, something to tie them all together. I think Randy is assembling them to make a nice display if you get them all (just like the Inhumans) man it's great that Randy pays attention to these old school groups in that way!! I can attest that Hulk, Thor, Ant-man, Iron-man and Giant-man/wasp go very nicely together also.Add Capt. America (he was made an honorary founding member after all) to that bunch and they look even better.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Jesse321/PB170001.jpg

The base for the IM mini bust is okay, nothing really spectacular just some circutry but it fits well with all the basis of the earlier pieces. I regret not buying another IM when they were $30 so that I could chrome it, I think in chrome it would look really good, I wonder if any forum alum has done/did that?I think CK13 had it done.

Hey Ryche, how many real hard core Alpha flight fans are there, I am thinking that the Inhumans have probably more?On these boards, not that many. Personally I like the Inhumans and Alpha Flight equally ... both teams still have tremendous untapped potencial even to this day ... if only someone at Marvel will get off thier ass and realize it!

Underdog07
12-27-2005, 10:44 PM
Yeah Tet, if they would have kepted that stereotypical team dynamic with the captain america/superman archetype in there it may have been even more popular.

You can say allot about John Bryne but one thing that for sure is at that time in his career his was making fun comics to read. For those who read these issues when they were coming out like me it's a trip to see them getting this attention.

Month to month it was one of the books that I could not wait to get. Then at about issue 18 I stopped being interested in the book.

Tony Coca
12-27-2005, 10:48 PM
Damn wish i would have gotten it. :banghead:

Deadpool
12-28-2005, 12:41 AM
just picked up 2 vindicator busts for $ 35 each.... great deal, anyone wanna trade pm me!

boondocksaint
12-28-2005, 12:43 AM
just picked up 2 vindicator busts for $ 35 each.... great deal, anyone wanna trade pm me!
cant do this hombre...no trading :banghead:

Deadpool
12-28-2005, 12:46 AM
cant do this hombre...no trading :banghead:

my bad... lol it won't happen again :laugh:

mwf6171
12-28-2005, 12:54 AM
Hell, I would sell mine for $75..........:rolleyes:

boondocksaint
12-28-2005, 01:01 AM
Hell, I would sell mine for $75..........:rolleyes:


youre going to get banned! :laugh:

mwf6171
12-28-2005, 01:07 AM
youre going to get banned! :laugh:


Why.............I just made a statement............. :rolleyes2

Eye of Agamotto
12-28-2005, 12:01 PM
Your right Jes, forgot to mention of course the Cap. I have had allot of Bowen busts but I sold all of them and have just kepted these six core Avengers, I really did'nt find all the other as vital in my collecting mind. I have them arranged just like your display.

$35 for Vindicator bust is a hell of a deal, good score. I am not much of a Alpha Flight fan and don't know many people who are. They were fun to read though, I remember Diablo appearing as a villian and really liked the plotline, another character that I found interesting was Wild Child, he always gave me the creeps!

Deadpool
01-04-2006, 12:24 AM
Crap..... Vindi is approaching the $100 mark. They do nat have any on flea bay for less than $ 95.00 :buttrock:

Ish
01-04-2006, 01:40 PM
Add Capt. America (he was made an honorary founding member after all) to that bunch and they look even better.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Jesse321/PB170001.jpg

I think CK13 had it done.

On these boards, not that many. Personally I like the Inhumans and Alpha Flight equally ... both teams still have tremendous untapped potencial even to this day ... if only someone at Marvel will get off thier ass and realize it!
nice set up jesse, if i didn't hate mb's i would've put cap on the middle insted of antman. :)

Jesse321
01-04-2006, 01:57 PM
nice set up jesse, if i didn't hate mb's i would've put cap on the middle insted of antman. :)Tried that, I wanted Cap to be the focus of the team, but it makes it look unbalanced.

Sniper
01-04-2006, 02:25 PM
I have an extra one coming to me :buttrock:

Tony Coca
01-04-2006, 02:26 PM
I have an extra one coming to me :buttrock:
Are you going to flip it. :laugh: :eplus2:

Tony Coca
01-04-2006, 02:28 PM
Im getting one thanks to DeadPool. :buttrock:

Deadpool
01-04-2006, 02:35 PM
Anytime lil buddy! :buttrock:

Sniper
01-04-2006, 02:36 PM
Are you going to flip it. :laugh: :eplus2:
nope I'll trade it for something, dont need $$$ for it ... or I hold on to it, either way not in a rush to get rid of it :eplus2: :buttrock:

Eye of Agamotto
01-04-2006, 02:40 PM
Tried that, I wanted Cap to be the focus of the team, but it makes it look unbalanced.

Where do you have the second stringer Avengers like Scarlett Witch, Quicksilver, Hawkeye, Black Panther etc? You have the Goliath and can probably display them in much the same way beneath the founders cube.

Jesse321
01-04-2006, 02:44 PM
Where do you have the second stringer Avengers like Scarlett Witch, Quicksilver, Hawkeye, Black Panther etc? You have the Goliath and can probably display them in much the same way beneath the founders cube.Perez era Avengers are to the left of the cube pictured there, but I don't have a picture of them right now (that's where Tigra will go when I get her)

Eye of Agamotto
01-04-2006, 02:52 PM
Perez era Avengers are to the left of the cube pictured there, but I don't have a picture of them right now (that's where Tigra will go when I get her)

Cool.

Ish
01-04-2006, 02:55 PM
Tried that, I wanted Cap to be the focus of the team, but it makes it look unbalanced.
i see what you mean but i would put antman on a stand or something, caps got to be in the middle :)

Jesse321
01-04-2006, 03:02 PM
I agree, but it won't work ... at least until we get an individual Wasp MB

Ish
01-04-2006, 03:08 PM
I agree, but it won't work ... at least until we get an individual Wasp MB
i don't know about that, she's already in giantman's shoulder.

Jesse321
01-04-2006, 03:11 PM
That's why I said "individual" then I can put one on either side and it will be balanced.

Ish
01-04-2006, 03:13 PM
That's why I said "individual" then I can put one on either side and it will be balanced.
i know don't start with your stuff you've been ok today :p

Jesse321
01-04-2006, 03:14 PM
ah bite me :eplus2:

Ish
01-04-2006, 03:16 PM
ah bite me :eplus2:
:laugh: :laugh:

Sniper
01-04-2006, 05:19 PM
i see what you mean but i would put antman on a stand or something, caps got to be in the middle :)
indeed! :buttrock: