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Kdawg59
10-24-2004, 01:45 AM
I've slapped this together in roughly 3 nights so far. There have been very few people to see it to this point (you guys know who you are and you rock...), but I want to share with all of you now that I am here in the creation.
Spider-man and his rogues gallery are my absolute favorite corner of the Marvel universe. I started this piece for just that reason. Easier to sculpt characters you love when it's for fun.
Don't worry I have been working hard on the Hulk too, mostly because Zurb would slap me to Ohio if I wasn't. I won't show him until he's done though...
I hope you enjoy Macdonald Gargan aka the scorpion.
Sniper
10-24-2004, 01:54 AM
zurb I wanted to see pics of it , damn mods controlling the rate of sneak peaks now :thumbsdow
Kdawg59
10-24-2004, 01:55 AM
zurb I wanted to see pics of it , damn mods controlling the rate of sneak peaks now :thumbsdow
That was me snipes... I deleted the other thread because I actually wanted to post a real thread:).
Sniper
10-24-2004, 01:59 AM
there you go sticking up for that poodu mod again , you are truly a noble man and talented one also......... :wink2:
grendelscott
10-24-2004, 02:23 AM
Very nice KDawg. That should make a nice companion to your Hulk. Keep up the good work, and keep the sneak peeks coming...
Kdawg59
10-24-2004, 07:28 PM
Thanks Sniper and Grendel. I've learned a lot since I started sculpting 2 months ago. This one shows that progression in my opinion. More to come...
Let me know what you think gang.
Jesse321
10-24-2004, 07:34 PM
VERY cool KD, can't wait to see how it looks finished.
EXITAR007
10-24-2004, 07:42 PM
I've slapped this together in roughly 3 nights so far. There have been very few people to see it to this point (you guys know who you are and you rock...), but I want to share with all of you now that I am here in the creation.
Spider-man and his rogues gallery are my absolute favorite corner of the Marvel universe. I started this piece for just that reason. Easier to sculpt characters you love when it's for fun.
Don't worry I have been working hard on the Hulk too, mostly because Zurb would slap me to Ohio if I wasn't. I won't show him until he's done though...
I hope you enjoy Macdonald Gargan aka the scorpion.
very nice kinda looks like a mod :rolleyes:
nbr3bagshotrow
10-24-2004, 07:50 PM
So is this to be a Bowen piece?
rychehitman
10-24-2004, 08:22 PM
I sure hope so!
Kdawg59
10-24-2004, 09:05 PM
So is this to be a Bowen piece?
Wouldn't that be cool... I PM'ed Randy to show him, I don't know if he has seen it or not. He has been kind enough to be okay with recieving pics from me ( many sculptor's are nice like that to the new guys), but I don't know if he would be interested, or if the Bowen fans like it enough to want it???
MOstly I show these sculpts because I am proud that I can even do this:)
Zurbaran1
10-24-2004, 09:23 PM
Bowen? Hell yes, why not! Maybe this will be the law of three at work. You know, things happen in groups of three. First there was Villafane, then Zkulptor and as for the third member of the forum discovered talent team (I just made that up), why not KDawg? The man is certainly talented and how cool is it that he shares, and we see, the creation of a piece from beginning to end. I'm rooting for him. When we pick up our Villafane Logan or Sousa Witch how cool is it that we can say we know how that went down and share in a small way the birth of these pieces. I hope Scorpion or whatever else the Dawg does shares the same fate. And dawg stop reading these dang posts and finish the Hulk already unless you want me to come out there and give you some of what I'm cooking :D
Perna
10-24-2004, 09:37 PM
Dawg, awesome job! At first I thought it was going to be the Constrictor, but when I seen the new pics with the tail, it was a dead giveaway. I certainly think you have a great shot at being number 3 like Zurb said. Keep up the fantastic work. Just remember the "little" people. No not galactus :D
Confessor
10-24-2004, 09:50 PM
I'll tell you one thing...the Spidey rogues gallery is one of the best source potential for killer full sized statues out there . . .
. . . and your pose...like he was startled by Spidey from behind, so he turns with the scorpion tail reflexivley "c-o-c-k-e-d" overhead and ready to strike...awesome!!
What a great start! When you finish it, having gotten that "special Scorpion snarl/gremace" just right...it will rock!!
. . . now about that left bicep . . . ;)
(just kidding...it looks anatomically just right!)
Comicboy
10-24-2004, 10:05 PM
Hell yeah Kdawg!! I'm really suprised one hasn't been done yet, bust or statue. Do I sense a Vulture perhaps in your future? Cool work man, can't wait to see the tail finished.
Kdawg59
10-25-2004, 07:28 AM
You fellas are too kind but thank you. More progress attached...
Did you guys read that? My man the confessor said the anatomy is okay dokey...
Perna... You should get in here and get some sculpey too my friend. You will flip at how it will take your illustration to the next level. No fooling. I pay attention to everything now. People's mouths as they are talking, tendons and flexing, you name it.
Comicboy... Like The esteemed doctor said above, there is a whole world of spidey villians that no one has seen as statues yet:) Hang in there with me:)
Zurb... no smack down here bro. Here's a progress of Hulk after today and another scorpion ta boot.
DFury
10-25-2004, 09:05 AM
Kdawg59..
Swwweeeeeeeeeetttt...
movin along very nice bro :)
keep up the good work..
df
sculptfu
10-25-2004, 09:41 AM
Not to take away from what you are doing (which is a nice start by the way) but there has already been an excellant sculpt of the Scorpion, in almost the same pose as what you are working on. It was done a year or so ago by Mark Van Tine, who has been hired by Bowen Designs to sculpt the Man Thing statue. Mark has been doing time for several years in the garage kit business, and it is high past time his work be exposed to a wider audience.You can view Mark's sculpt at his gallery on the Sculptor's Corner web site. I don't know how to do a link on this forum but you should be able to plug this in and go right to the page the pics are on. http://www.sculptorscorner.com/vantyne/vantine17.jpg Again Kdawg this is not to take away from what you are doing, just wanted to give you a heads up about it. Joy and I have known Mark since the early 80's when we were all students at the Ringling School of Art in Sarasota FL. Mark is excellant at anatomy so you should be able to pick up some pointers by studying his sculpt and how he handled the work.
Kdawg59
10-25-2004, 10:14 AM
Very nice Tom. Mark is a talented man and it is an excellent sculpt. The good news is I think the pose is different enough that I don't have to feel guilty. whew... I love looking at everyone's work...
Thanks DFury... I'm glad you like it so far... More to definitely come
here is the link for anyone interested...
Mark's Scorpion (http://www.sculptorscorner.goregoregore.com/Vantyne/BIG17.htm)
Collection King 13
10-25-2004, 10:17 AM
kdawg... Great work! Cant wait to see it finished! Keep it up!
Kdawg59
10-25-2004, 10:27 AM
Thanks King... It's a good day when it passes the CK13 "sucks test"
Thanks bro'
Collection King 13
10-25-2004, 11:17 AM
Thanks King... It's a good day when it passes the CK13 "sucks test"
Thanks bro'
Dont worry I'll be sure to let you know when one of your sculpts SUCK!!!! :laugh:
Zurbaran1
10-25-2004, 12:08 PM
Wow kdawg, you pass the CK13 Suckey test. I see big things ahead for you. :laugh:
CKinSD
10-25-2004, 12:32 PM
lol..... Kdawg that is looking really nice there bro. keep it up.....
VENOM!~!!!!!!!!! lol
Kdawg59
10-25-2004, 01:28 PM
lol..... Kdawg that is looking really nice there bro. keep it up.....
VENOM!~!!!!!!!!! lol
Are you trying to tell me something CK? Do you like Venom or something???:)
Not to take away from what you are doing (which is a nice start by the way) but there has already been an excellant sculpt of the Scorpion, in almost the same pose as what you are working on. It was done a year or so ago by Mark Van Tine, who has been hired by Bowen Designs to sculpt the Man Thing statue. Mark has been doing time for several years in the garage kit business, and it is high past time his work be exposed to a wider audience.You can view Mark's sculpt at his gallery on the Sculptor's Corner web site. I don't know how to do a link on this forum but you should be able to plug this in and go right to the page the pics are on. http://www.sculptorscorner.com/vantyne/vantine17.jpg Again Kdawg this is not to take away from what you are doing, just wanted to give you a heads up about it. Joy and I have known Mark since the early 80's when we were all students at the Ringling School of Art in Sarasota FL. Mark is excellant at anatomy so you should be able to pick up some pointers by studying his sculpt and how he handled the work.
Tom, I know you aren't trying to take anything away from Kdawg, but you kind of did. And you gave most of it to Mark Van Tine. I've seen Mark's work and it is excellent and obviously Randy Bowen agrees.
Here is Van Tine's Scorpion for those who have never seen it:
http://www.geocities.com/jaycotoys/images/scorpspidey.jpg
However, I think there are considerable differences between these two pieces. First, a certain wall-cralwer is missing. I would argue that Van Tine's piece is more of a diorama, it depicts a scene. Second, the Scorpion in the Van Tine piece and the Scorpion in Kdawg's piece are in different poses.
Kdawg's Scorpion is focused on what is in front of him. It is done in the Bowen format, of a stand-alone figure, a sculpted portrait, if you will. One of the issues with any statue of the Scorpion is that he is called the Scorpion, not The Duck or The Herring. As a Scorpion, his poses can be a bit limited to his tail coming from behind his back. The Rhino is another Spidey villain with a similar isuue, He almost always has to be charging.
I'm not sure what scale Van Tine's Scorpion is in, but I don't think it is 1/8. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Kdawg is new to sculpting, but I think he has a great deal of natural talent. I don't think he meant no one had ever done a good Scorpion statue, so much as no one had done one that he had been in the same scale and style as the Bowen pieces.
Kdawg59
10-25-2004, 07:40 PM
Thanks for that vote of confidence Oh great earth God:)
P.S. Read in that Zurb voice...
"Quit yakkin' and get back to that sculpey Dawg!"
bat_collector
10-26-2004, 10:15 AM
The updates are great, keep it up buddy! :thumbs2:
Kdawg59
10-26-2004, 11:22 PM
I spent another couple hours tonight blocking in more shapes, roughing in where the muscle bodies should go.
I beefed up the chest added a rough hand and work the right leg more.
Oh... and more pics too... Hope you like 'em...
http://www.nitemarestudios.com/images/scorp93.jpg
http://www.nitemarestudios.com/images/scorp94.jpg
http://www.nitemarestudios.com/images/scorp95.jpg
http://www.nitemarestudios.com/images/scorp96.jpg
grendelscott
10-26-2004, 11:26 PM
I wish I had the room to set up an area to try something like this. I bet that, while it's probably frsutrating sometimes, you're still having a blast doing these. Keep up the good work...
ManthingVT
10-27-2004, 01:07 AM
Hi guys, I just saw this here and wanted to reply. I think it's a good start. I've seen this sculpt in the Shifflet's forum and already gave Kdawg a simple suggestion abot the tail construction (he asked... ;-)
Kdawg, I'm not even sure you'd know who I was anyway... but that was me. I post , but keep a low profile in the sculptng forum usually. I'm always glad to see people pick up the clay and give it a try. It's that enthusiasm that keeps the model and statue hobbies vibrant and growing.
I really don't think Tom meant to take anything away either, I'm sure he was just trying to be helpful by showing my sculpt. Looking at other's work is one of the best learning tools there is.
Kdawg, if you ever do want any help with whatever, don't hesitate to ask. I'm pretty easy... Otherwise my best general advice to anyone is to just study your anatomy- it can take years to really get it down.
MVT
Kdawg59
10-27-2004, 07:33 AM
Thanks Mark
I always think it is so cool how all of you pros have time for us newbies. I certainly appreciate it on my end. This is something that is all-consuming in its enjoyment for me right now. I love it and want to get better with each effort.
On my end it's only fair that I am open to any and all constructive suggestions. I listen.
Again Mark I appeciate you taking notice. You are an excellent sculptor and I would be an idiot if I didn't take you up on your offer for future advice.
Ladies and gentlemen Mark Van Tine...
Zurbaran1
10-27-2004, 07:51 AM
Welcome Mark, good to see you here and posting!
Dawg, coming along nicely based on the pics you posted last night!!
bat_collector
10-27-2004, 04:07 PM
Wow, this piece is coming along very nicely.
I'll make sure to take this too when I come to get your hulk statue. :laugh:
Kdawg59
10-27-2004, 04:14 PM
Thanks bats and zurb... more work tonight at the gym counter before I lift:)
CKinSD
10-27-2004, 04:37 PM
Hi guys, I just saw this here and wanted to reply. I think it's a good start. I've seen this sculpt in the Shifflet's forum and already gave Kdawg a simple suggestion abot the tail construction (he asked... ;-)
Kdawg, I'm not even sure you'd know who I was anyway... but that was me. I post , but keep a low profile in the sculptng forum usually. I'm always glad to see people pick up the clay and give it a try. It's that enthusiasm that keeps the model and statue hobbies vibrant and growing.
I really don't think Tom meant to take anything away either, I'm sure he was just trying to be helpful by showing my sculpt. Looking at other's work is one of the best learning tools there is.
Kdawg, if you ever do want any help with whatever, don't hesitate to ask. I'm pretty easy... Otherwise my best general advice to anyone is to just study your anatomy- it can take years to really get it down.
MVT
Mark thanks for finally showing up and taking time with our own Kdawg. We are proud of the youngster and are so happy when folks pop in and try to give a hand. that is very cool of you.
I hope to see more of you on the boards now you have found us.
ManthingVT
10-27-2004, 10:20 PM
Hey CK, I've been around since the begining actually- just lurking. This is such a busy pace I find it hard to just keep up! I need to switch browsers just to post here too- seems my old AOL browser won't play nice, so it's a little more effort, but I'll post when I can. Nice Forum though, I enjoy coming here to check out what's going on.
Thanks for the welcome also Zurb.
MVT
Kdawg59
10-27-2004, 10:43 PM
Hey Mark I've seen you on here before. It is a blistering pace keeping up with everything no?
CK... thanks my friend you may get that Venom outta me yet bro:)
Kdawg59
10-27-2004, 11:25 PM
More shots...
Would you guys rather see this as a bust or do you want me to keep going on a full-size? Would you buy it if anything ever came of it?
It feels for every one thing I do there are a million things to replace... Only being able to do this an hour here and there is tough.
Enjoy and let me know what you think so far...
http://www.nitemarestudios.com/images/scorp98.jpg
http://www.nitemarestudios.com/images/scorp97.jpg
http://www.nitemarestudios.com/images/scorp99.jpg
http://www.nitemarestudios.com/images/scorp991.jpg
Cause if you are, I'm cutting you off!
Kdawg59
10-28-2004, 12:02 AM
well that's one for full size:)
Perish the thought... I was just thinkin' that if I get him cast he could be a bust too?
Kdawg59
10-28-2004, 12:05 AM
or turned into that constrictor:)
You can finish Scorpion, start on a full-size Constrictor, than a full-size Lizard, than a full-size Tiger Shark...
Kdawg59
10-28-2004, 12:12 AM
I like all 3 characters...
OneOne78
10-28-2004, 11:09 AM
You got some skills there brother. Kdawg keep it up the great work. I'm sure you'll bound to have a few quick sells around here.
bat_collector
10-28-2004, 01:00 PM
Statue, statue, statue!
Kdawg59
10-28-2004, 02:50 PM
Yeah it will stay full-size for sure... I was having a moment where I was doubting myself. Crom made it clear that I need to relax and not give up...
Plus he promised to photoshop bad things about me on the pic of me on my bike that used to be on here:)
sculptfu
10-29-2004, 09:16 PM
I haven't been able to post in a few days. I wanted to clarify what I said before. I pointed out Mark's Scorpion because I knew that Randy had seen Mark's portfolio. This is how Mark got hired by BD to do Man Thing. Mark already had a Man Thing in his portfolio. In a subtle way I was implying that if BD was looking for a Scorpion he probably would have ask Mark to reimagine his original Scorpion sculpt. We have had at least a half dozen beginning sculptors contact us about what they can do to "get noticed". My advise is to spend a LOT of time looking at what other people have done, and then do something different. I think that Ray Villifane made an impact because he chose to do a different take on an overdone character. Most Wolverines are all pumped up and snarling, he went for something completly different. His skills would have shown through regardless of what he sculpted, but the different approach made people take notice. It seems like every sculptor out there is doing Hulk, Wolverine or Batman.What ends up happening is these pieces get compared to all the other versions of the same character, and your work can get lost in the shuffle. There are hundreds of Batman sculpts out there. The last one that impressed me was the Horizon Keaton kit from Batman Returns. The point I was trying to make was if you want to make an impression go for something out of the norm. Granted Scorpion is not the most popular character out there, but knowing a great sculpt in a similiar pose already exist may cause you to consider a different character. Obviously you should do whatever makes you happy. The advice we offer to anyone who wants it (and one of the things we consider most about our own work) is ignore the compliments and listen to the critizism. You may not always agree with it, but it will help you grow as an artist. This sculpt is looking nice. The gesture has a lot of energy. If you are going for a realistic style you may want to check your proportions on the legs as from the photos they seem a little long (especially in the thighs). Before I was kicked out of the Clubhouse I use to draw a lot of heat for saying what I thought. Some sculptors over there would post pictures of their work, and I guess the idea was they were only looking for pats on the back and to be told how great they were. You seem motivated to become a good sculptor, so hopefully you will take my remarks in the nature in which they were intended, i.e. constructive critizism. If I may offer one other piece of advice it would be to finish one piece before you start another. I say this from experience because I have dozens of projects laying around down here that got off to a good start, and never got any farther. For what it's worth...
Kdawg59
10-30-2004, 09:41 AM
Of course your remarks were received how they were intended Tom. I am new to sculpting, but I am not new to being an artist. I am an artist for a living and I have a BFA. I am not new to critiques by any mean.
I also understand what you are saying about doing something different to be "noticed". The simple fact right now is I am just getting started in this and I WILL sculpt what I want because I AM having fun. I don't presume that because I show a piece on any forum that I will be hired by Randy or anyone else for it. Right now it's a hobby that I enjoy so why not sculpt 18 Hulks if I like the character? I don't see Scorpion as being done to death anyway so I think you contradicted yourself a touch even by your own admission. Mark's sculpt is great for sure I still am not seeing it as the same pose though but whatever...
I do thank you for you honest comments and they do not go unheard. I am motivated to be a good sculptor and ultimately it all helps good and bad. With every new piece I get better.
You are a professional plain and simple and I know your comments are intended to help.
They are appreciated.
OneOne78
10-30-2004, 05:05 PM
sculptfu & Kdawg59 - That was a great post guys. Good luck with all your future projects.
Devils Drifter
10-30-2004, 09:42 PM
I pointed out Mark's Scorpion because I knew that Randy had seen Mark's portfolio. This is how Mark got hired by BD to do Man Thing. Mark already had a Man Thing in his portfolio. In a subtle way I was implying that if BD was looking for a Scorpion he probably would have ask Mark to reimagine his original Scorpion sculpt.
Kdawg, great progress so far man. Keep it up and you'll be up there with the big boys in no time.
Scultpfu, I read over your post and these couple of sentences really irked me. I love Mark Van Tine's work and I am really looking forward to his Man Thing statue but this thread was about Kdawg's Scorpion. If you wanted Randy to check out more of Mark's work you could have called him on the phone or posted it yourself under a different topic. I can only imagine how hard it must've been for Kdawg to post his work in a public forum and have people critique it. I understand that artists sometimes need a different set of eyes on a sculpture but IMO; you were not being fair to Kdawg's Scorpion. You had another agenda that had nothing at all to do with his piece and it was impolite to post it on his thread.
Again this is nothing against Mark Van Tine, he is a very hard working and talented individual who I have had the pleasure of meeting on more than one occasion.
- DD
sculptfu
10-30-2004, 10:32 PM
HeyDrifter, get over it. I'm not sure what you thought my agenda was, and I don't really care. This was a legitiment piece of advice. It never ceases to amaze me how other people get to say whatever they want, but as soon as I say something I'm an @$$hole? For the record I know Randy has seen Mark's portfolio, because I suggested that Randy check out Mark's work. I got a copy of Mark's portfolio on CD and sent it to Randy. That's why I made the comment I did. Randy liked Mark's Manthing he previously sculpted enough to hire him to do another one. I think Kdawg realized were I was coming from, so I don't know what your problem is. Well actually I'm pretty sure I do know what your problem is. It's obvious that a certain group of individuals has a problem with me that has nothing to do with this subject. Anybody who post pictures of their work should say if they REALLY want a critique or if they are only looking for comments about how great they are. Kdawg keep doin' what your doin'. You know from your schooling where I was coming from. If your enjoying what your sculpting go for it...
Devils Drifter
10-31-2004, 09:29 AM
Scultpfu, I thought that the point I was trying to make was clear. Simply put, it's called common courtesy. By all means, critique the piece, but saying that a better sculpt of the character already exists, so that you can subtlety get your friends work noticed, doesn't sound like helpful advice to me at all.
And No, it's not all a big conspiracy. I call them like I see them. I thought you were wrong and I pointed it out, simple as that.
-DD
Zurbaran1
10-31-2004, 09:51 AM
Guys, can we put an end to this now. Take this stuff off-line, if you feel the need, and let's get the discussion back to Kdawg's Scorpion. I think it's coming along very nicely and can't wait to see the finished piece.
CKinSD
10-31-2004, 01:52 PM
Guys, can we put an end to this now. Take this stuff off-line, if you feel the need, and let's get the discussion back to Kdawg's Scorpion. I think it's coming along very nicely and can't wait to see the finished piece.
agreed now let us get back to the preview at hand the scorpion :)
galactus
10-31-2004, 01:56 PM
I think we need to sculpt another CKinSD, the last one I saw didn't look too good :)
Kdawg59
11-01-2004, 08:26 AM
I had a bake-off this past week:)
I did the initial bake of this piece. I have yet to sculpt the feet, the hands, the tail (The one in the pic is just a place holder more or less)
I also did a bit of soul searching this weekend and this is the last time you will see this head on him.
I am going to re-sculpt the head... something better. More realistic with the mouth open, clenched teeth, meaner...
I discovered a little thing called castilene last week (thanks to our pal Ray V) and I was putzing with this stuff and it got me thinking a little differently about how to approach sculpey. castilene is definitely a more subtractive medium than sculpey. With this new "AH HAH" I will try to do this face a little more subtractive in sculpey as well. I love the pose but the face is looking a little too "alienish" for me...
It also actually helps to sculpt a skull first then add clay to the skull for correct proportions...
I'm excited, but enough talk... here is a couple of pics to tide you guys over until I can attach a new brain bucket:)
http://www.nitemarestudios.com/images/S1.jpg
http://www.nitemarestudios.com/images/S2.jpg
CKinSD
11-01-2004, 10:13 AM
Damn for a newbie freak that you are. Nice work man! really nice. The head is a bit small I think but the face is the scorpion for sure keep up the great work
Kdawg59
11-01-2004, 08:11 PM
Thanks K... I consider being called a freak a good thing...
I just tore the face off the piece... gotta tell you... I'm bummed...
Zurbaran1
11-01-2004, 08:37 PM
Thanks K... I consider being called a freak a good thing...
I just tore the face off the piece... gotta tell you... I'm bummed...
I bet the new face rocks!!!! Where is it already??????
Kdawg59
11-01-2004, 08:50 PM
Ha...I'm frantically trying to repair and do the new one now...
Kdawg59
11-02-2004, 11:07 PM
I did a BIG bit of damage to the original face... I'm scared I won't be able to fix but I am working on it... In surgery and it's touch and go...
here's the progress...
http://www.nitemarestudios.com/images/revise1.jpg
Perna
11-03-2004, 12:22 AM
Kdawg, I think the new head looks better. Tell me, what is this castilene thing you speak of?
Kdawg59
11-03-2004, 06:58 AM
Castilene is what Ray, eyedlehands and various others work in. It is very hard like wax and you don't have to bake. You can basically form your rough shape and start carving. It's just cool because I can glob some shapes and then carve away...
I'm gonna do a piece in castilene after I finish scorpion to see the full effect.
Perna
11-03-2004, 10:07 AM
Castilene is what Ray, eyedlehands and various others work in. It is very hard like wax and you don't have to bake. You can basically form your rough shape and start carving. It's just cool because I can glob some shapes and then carve away...
I'm gonna do a piece in castilene after I finish scorpion to see the full effect.
Sounds cool. As always, I'd like to see your work using castilene. Can you add to the castilene once you've taken away?
Kdawg59
11-03-2004, 10:22 AM
yessir... you melt the castilene smear it on and carve away again... it's more labor intensive I'm told but you have certainly seen Ray's results with it. His detail is incredible... I suck and I can get more detail than I can with sculpey...
Kdawg59
11-03-2004, 02:42 PM
AHHHHHHHH!!!!! I am about to pitch this sculpt off the balcony....
Maybe we should have a contest to see how many pieces it will break into... winner gets the dust.
AHHHHHHHH!!!!! I am about to pitch this sculpt off the balcony....
Maybe we should have a contest to see how many pieces it will break into... winner gets the dust.
You cannot quit!
Put it aside and come back to it later, but don't quit. Even if later is a day, a week, or a month. But don't quit. You need to finish a piece, just so you can get it out of your system.
Kdawg59
11-03-2004, 02:46 PM
yesiknowiwillfinish iwon'tquit...
Ray Villafane
11-03-2004, 03:06 PM
Kieth,
we need to get together one of these upcoming weekends. The best way I have learned to teach my students is to sculpt one side of the face or body and let them try and match the other side. I can push some things around on the piece as long as its not baked and you can watch then work the other side. Then you can erase my side and match it to your side so that the entire piece is done by you.I'lll resume heading downstate after I finish Magneto. We'll have to set up a time to get together.
-Ray
Kdawg59
11-03-2004, 03:29 PM
absolutely man... I wanna talk more castilene... You just get that Mags done and catch your breath. I'll call you in a week or so to talk more turkey.
Kdawg59
11-04-2004, 12:19 AM
I am almost done fixing the head and face... whew! I am just trying to tweak a couple of things and then I will post more updates.
Thanks
Kdawg59
11-04-2004, 09:04 AM
Here are the new pics... you be the judge. I certainly like the new head better.
http://www.nitemarestudios.com/images/new1.jpg
http://www.nitemarestudios.com/images/new2.jpg
http://www.nitemarestudios.com/images/new3.jpg
Zurbaran1
11-04-2004, 09:08 AM
Dawg, it's looking good bro! The new head rules!
Ray Villafane
11-04-2004, 11:39 AM
looks much better Kieth...and the more you sculpt....the better you'll get. Its an obvious notion but exciting to know whenever you are not satisfied with an area of your piece.
Tony Coca
11-04-2004, 07:56 PM
So far so good Dwag.I just have one small problem with it.That is Scorpion is a slender character you have to much bulk on his body.Thin him out just a little.
Kdawg59
11-04-2004, 09:28 PM
Yo Tony... he will get a bit slimmer. Mostly what you are seeing is the hug arms amd previous thick chest pics. I am happy enough with the head and he will still be thuggish but a bit slimmer. Thanks and stay tuned m'man!
Perna
11-04-2004, 10:00 PM
Great work Kdawg! The head looks much better.
shiflettbrothers
11-05-2004, 02:22 AM
kdawg
that does look better, we take off heads all the time. brandon resculpted the Kabuki head 5 times. its all part of it. lookin good man
j
buzzybean
11-05-2004, 12:29 PM
WoW! I totally missed this thread! Here's to Scorpion!
Looks great but I would suggest not using any McFarlane reference and go to Romita Sr for the "look". Looks cool so far, though!
BB
Ray Villafane
11-05-2004, 01:21 PM
5 times...thats all???? you are just toying with resculpting frustrations! I ended up redoing Wolvies face at least 10 times.grrrrrr
Kdawg59
11-05-2004, 01:33 PM
5 times...thats all???? you are just toying with resculpting frustrations! I ended up redoing Wolvies face at least 10 times.grrrrrr
well with you pros doing it that many times... how encouraging...gulp...
I seriously was close to going Hulk on this piece for awhile. I must have ripped it off done a new one, dremelled that off, did another...
frustrating but it is all worth it at the end... if I get there...
shiflettbrothers
11-06-2004, 03:38 AM
kdawg
all part of it. The last place I lived in there were so many holes in the walls. I tried to throw a tv threw the wall. Totally flattened that toy biz thor against the wall, brandon threw chili at the draco. every piece has a story , I'm the kind of person that would work on a piece forever (if randy would let me) my originals I don't finish , I just keep working on them , they are my freinds, I make them
ok that was sebastian from bladerunner , word
j
Kdawg59
11-07-2004, 03:50 PM
The woes continue on this piece. I slapped a coat of primer on it after I sanded for a bit. I put it outside on the pavement to dry...
My girlfriends best friend decided she couldn't see it in plain sight and kicked it. It fell and has broken in (by my count 8 different places.) I should be able to fix it, but it's more work. Oi:)
Accidents happen and the saga goes on:)
The woes continue on this piece. I slapped a coat of primer on it after I sanded for a bit. I put it outside on the pavement to dry...
My girlfriends best friend decided she couldn't see it in plain sight and kicked it. It fell and has broken in (by my count 8 different places.) I should be able to fix it, but it's more work. Oi:)
Accidents happen and the saga goes on:)
Man, if she can't see a foot-tall human-scorpion in the broad daylight, I worry about the day she meets the inch-tall, posinous real ones.
Kdawg59
11-07-2004, 04:16 PM
Yeah... I am bummed and I don't currently have any superglue... To the hardware store.
Let us all hope for her sake that she never comes into contact with a real scorpion. She would be doomed for sure.
Thank God it wasn't the Hulk... He's to close to being done.
Devils Drifter
11-07-2004, 05:32 PM
OH NOO!!! I really liked the progress on this piece. Hopefully he can be put back together again.
- DD
Kdawg59
11-07-2004, 05:39 PM
Fear not...this Humpty can be put back together again! If only the original would have been able to buy superglue:)
bat_collector
11-07-2004, 06:23 PM
I hope you can put the pieces back together again.
If she breaks the Hulk there will be consequences? I better go to Michigan now and just steal the piece.
Kdawg59
11-07-2004, 08:29 PM
I fixed Humpty... he's at least back together again. Just like the hulk I have been sanding him today and slapped a coat of primer on before "the incident."
http://www.nitemarestudios.com/images/new4.jpg
Zurbaran1
11-07-2004, 08:44 PM
He doesn't look any the worse for his little run. This is gonna be one sharp piece.
He's looking like a solid piece Kdawg.
Hi Mulligan.
Kdawg59
11-08-2004, 08:28 AM
With these pics everything is now at least back to where it was. Another coat of sandable primer. Now I can move forward again. I'm happy that he wasn't demolished.
http://www.nitemarestudios.com/images/broken1.jpg
http://www.nitemarestudios.com/images/broken2.jpg
I think when this piece is thinned out a bit he is going to rock. I am really looking forward to the tail. That will obviously seal the deal.
Kdawg59
11-08-2004, 09:46 AM
Yeah... I thinned his chest out a ton actually. It was very round and thick. It's still wide but that is mostly because of the pose and his arms and rib cage will be next. The tail is going to be fun. I wanna make that last.
bat_collector
11-08-2004, 10:13 AM
Great job, my friend.
Finish that Hulk!
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