Question on Barbarian AP statues

[deathdealer]

As stated by Clayburn Moore at thread http://www.statueforum.com/showthread.php?p=577400&page=4&pp=10
There are 100 nude and 200 clothed version in the AP edition. Just wondering if they are numbered sequentially according to the version? Thanks.

[DFury]

I am fairly sure they are random..

df

[Ghost]

I thought there was 400 APs total? That's what it says on my box, and I have one of the nudes.

[deathdealer]

I thought there was 400 APs total? That's what it says on my box, and I have one of the nudes.
The box states that there are 400 pieces. But the original shipping carton box and Clayburn Moore states that there are 300 pieces. BTW, is the number of your nude version more than 100?

[Ghost]

Yup, it's #252.

[CessnaDriver]

I have a nude and the cardboard shipping box sez

C/NO 54 of 100
A.P editions's #353

statue bottom 353 of 400


Is it true they used real rubys in the knife?

[CessnaDriver]

From forum member "dfchang"..........

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:tZwEDr_yeJAJ:66.98.242.87/~admin11/showthread.php%3Ft%3D3904%26page%3D2+%22barbarian+statue%22+moore+artists+proof+nude&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=3



I'll think about it but let me get it first so I can take a look at it.

And by the way I DO know the truth about the production so here goes:

1. Regular edition with clothed slave girl and normal sword and dagger 6500.

2. AP 400 TOTAL Edition size. All 400 have silver swords. Out of this 400, 100 have nude slave girls. That's 300 clothed and 100 nude. Clay put the 100 nudes among the first 200 produced. Why would he do this? So that collectors could have low numbers of BOTH nude and clothed slave girls depending on preference.

3. Here's the kicker and what makes things so confusing. Very rarely . . . very, very, very rarely you may run across a nude that does NOT have silver sword. How can this be? Well, the answer is that in addition to the AP there were also about 15-20 factory primed PRE-PRODUCTION pieces with the nude slave girl. These are UNPAINTED and grey ready to paint. The rarest of the Barbarian versions, they were never meant to go on sale and were given as gifts by Clay to various friends and contacts.

Once in a while, these pre-production nudes would be painted by a professional. Of course, these nudes would NOT have had the silver sword or jeweled dagger added in. Thus, if you happen to have gotten a nude slave girl WITHOUT a silver sword, there is a good chance that you managed to snag a pre-production piece that was then painted professionally by a private party and sold as an AP.

And no, you don't want to know what I had to go through to get all this info out.

But I'm about 99% sure this is the truth with the Barbarian piece. There were preliminary plans to make a bronze of this piece but I'm not sure if this was ever done.

So basically a 232 nude version is suspicious to me. To the best of Moore's knowledge there have been NO illegal versions of this piece made so I assume Dead_Man that your piece is genuine. However, there aren't supposed to be any nude AP above 200. If your piece has the silver sword then it is likely legit and a couple of nudes must have slipped into the higher numbers.

If your piece does NOT have the silver sword, then most assuredly you have a professionally painted pre-production piece . . . which ironically is probably more rare than the original Artist Proof!!!!!

As it stands I managed to snag from a private source one of the unpainted pre-production pieces. There was some discussion at that time whether I should have it painted or not but in the end, I decided against it as I felt it would retain its collectivity in its untouched state. As it is, it is a fascinating piece because you really DO see the sculpture in FINAL form before any paint. It really feels like it came fresh from Clay's hands. Even the dagger and sword scabbard have to be gently connected as they are not attached yet.

Well probably more than you wanted to know but since it took me so much time and effort to find out the final truth about the specs of this piece I figured I'd share it so others wouldn't have to wonder what the hell is going on.

Dennis

P.S.: oh yeah and without doubt Moore's seminal work and in my opinion the sculpture of the decade hands down.

[CessnaDriver]

It is clear that nudes can be numbered all the way up to 400.
So that bit above about putting them into the first 200 to be produced must not have resulted in all nudes having numbers below 200.

But it does look like only 100 were nude versions.

[dfchang]

Wow!! I've been quoted on statueforum.com!! That's cool. :):)

And yes as an update, although only 100 Artist Proofs are nude they can indeed be any number.

It's interesting reading over what I said because I mentioned than a painted nude without silver sword would probably be more valuable. What happens? Only a few weeks ago a professinally painted nude barbarian grey primed (like I described) by Paul Moore sold for 2500 plus compared to 500 to 600 for a true silver sword nude artist proof.

Dennis

[leks]

There were also a couple of faux bronzes and ofcourse actual bronzes of this statue.

[CessnaDriver]

If you look at ebay auctions and completed auctions there are some weird ones.

Signed bottoms,

and one even has NO number on the bottom at all.

[Ghost]

Wow that is some pretty interesting info there! Kewl history! I do have the silver sword and dagger. My fave piece still. Though I can't wait for Tony's Snow Giants!

[DEAD_MAN]

I do'nt know the actual facts but Paul (Clay's Brother)
Told me he (Clay)started of with low numbers then he Randomly Number them
so that there would also be low numbers for the AP non-nude version.
I had 2 (5 /400 & 232/400) now I only own #5
#232 I sold it to a friend I needed the money :banghead:

[Comicboy]

CessnaDriver, you are the MAN!! Thank you so much for hammering that out. That is exactly the info I needed for the archive. One more question....msrp's for each? Obviously the unpainted would not have one due to them never being released.

[tarim69]

My nude just has numbering on the box.

[DEAD_MAN]

This is not a true nude AP:http://cgi.ebay.com/FRAZETTAS-BARBARIAN-Statue-ARTIST-PROOF-233-400_W0QQitemZ6621462681QQcategoryZ80QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

This is a true nude Ap low number:http://cgi.ebay.com/FRAZETTAS-BARBARIAN-Statue-ARTIST-PROOF-35-400_W0QQitemZ6622183166QQcategoryZ80QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

[deathdealer]

My nude just has numbering on the box.
Mine is numbered both on the colored box and at the bottom of the statue. The number is also printed on the shipping carton box.

[tarim69]

"Well, the answer is that in addition to the AP there were also about 15-20 factory primed PRE-PRODUCTION pieces with the nude slave girl. These are UNPAINTED and grey ready to paint."


Sorry Im still kind of ignorant to the facts of this statue. This is what I thougth you guys were talking about. Mine is unpainted. Im pretty sure the guy said there were 200 of these when I bought it.

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1450/p10109470qs.th.jpg (http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p10109470qs.jpg)

[MTT]

Sorry, I'm a bit late for the actual conversation but I'm a new member in this forum.

Don't want to mix up you qyus but here's for you some add info, a direct copy paste from the original Moore Creation advertisement:

Moore Creations, Inc. would like to introduce one of the most desirable and captivating statue to date. From the original painting by the master of fantasy art, Frank Frazetta, came the inspiration for this limited edition Barbarian artist proof statue. This immaculate sculpture will be a 400 piece limited edition, 300 of which will portray the slave girl nude, as in Mr. Frazetta’s original artwork, while the remaining 100 will be clothed. This exquisite collectors artist proof item features a 10 karat gold dagger with four genuine rubies inlaid in the handle. The hilt and blade of the sword are composed of solid cast sterling silver for a most distinguished quality. Sculpted by award winning sculptor Clayburn S. Moore, this picturesque Barbarian statue comes with a wooden base and a brass nameplate. Suggested retail is $395.00.

And btw - I have nudes numbered 32 and 222 / 400.

Br, MTT

[bustRgood]

I swear my nude AP has a # of 346/400 but that first number is hard to read.

[Skulpturen]

Me wants one... ! :banghead:

[Barbarian]

All I can say is that I scored mine on ebay for less than $600. It was #14 Nude AP version and factory sealed. Best statue EVER! Can't wait to get Clay to sign it at SDCC. WOOHOO! :buttrock:

[Comicboy]

Do we have a verdict as to which is correct? 300 nudes-100 clothed or 100 nudes-300 clothed? It also seems the nudes are scattered amongst the first 250 or so.