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wktf
06-22-2006, 09:51 AM
Sam Wilson’s Reviews

Well, all of us are back from vacation now, and I’m glad. Got tired of picking up the slack all by myself ;). Anyway, an AWESOME week in comics, Iron Man, New Avengers and Astonishing X-men all making strong showings, and I took a gamble on Marvel’s new Eternals series, love JR jr, don’t really care for Neil Gaiman. It must cool cover week as well, we have some dead sexy covers by Howard Chaykin on Bite Club and by Olivier Coipel on Eternals. My pick of the week is Birds of Prey (duh), and with that being said, on to the reviews…

Eternals issue #1 (of 6)
Marvel Comics
Written by: Neil Gaiman
Drawn by: John Romita Jr.
Dead Sexy Variant cover by: Olivier Coipel

For those of you who are students of the “old school”, the “Eternals” are a creation of Jack Kirby, debuting in their self-titled series way back in 1976. The Celestials created the “Eternals”, a race of giant space faring beings that came from space and messed around with Cro-Magnon man. They ended up creating two races, the Deviants, and of course the Eternals. The Deviants were pretty much a$#holes and enslaved man, and in a war with the Eternals (who were far, far outnumbered by the Deviants) were reduced in number and humanity was freed from their grip. The Eternals then helped guide humanity to what it is today. An offshoot of the Eternals’ race also split for deep space and ended up crash landing on the moon of Titan after being attacked by a Kree ship (for those of you paying attention, both Thanos and Starfox are Eternals, Eternals of Titan, anyway). It should also be mentioned a captured Eternal scientist was experimented on by some Kree scientists, and then these same scientists went to Earth and ended up creating the Inhumans, but now I’m just showing off…

To get to my point we haven’t seen the Eternals in the Marvel U for a while. Back in the 90’s the Eternals’ Sersi and “The Forgotten One” were both Avengers for a spell, but they haven’t been around for awhile. Enter Neil Gaiman, whose claim to fame is “Sandman” and the “Death” series from DC/Vertigo comics. Yeah, I hated those books, a lot, and I hated his first Marvel work, the 1602 series. In fact, I got the 1602 tpb as a gift and regifted it to someone else. Heh. I figured it was time to give the dude a chance though, and with John Romita Jr. handling the art now was as a good a time as any. The result? Interesting. I aint turning cartwheels, but my attention has been captured.

“Eternals” issue one introduces us to Mark Curry, a med-student who isn’t quite what he seems. At least that’s what a golden-eyed patient of his tells him. He tells Mark he is really the Eternal Makkari, and he is Ikaris and they are both thousands of years old and super-powerful. Yeah, it’s a lot for med-student Mark Curry to swallow, and then stuff happens that may change his mind. We also get a glimpse of Sersi and a quick four-page history of the Eternals. So I’m sold for now. I wanted so much not to like this series, but I gotta admit, it’s kinda cool. I’ve missed Sersi since her Avengers days, and it’s cool to see her again. I also missed JR Jr, I thought he was totally wasted on that Sentry garbage. So pick this series up now or wait for the eventual trade, for a new book, it’s aiight, and there is a tiny, tiny “Civil War” tie in for all of you crossover completionists out there…

Birds of Prey issue# 95
DC Comics
Written by: Gail Simone
Drawn by: Joe Prado


When Birds of Prey first hit the racks it was a series of quarterly specials featuring Oracle aka the original Batgirl, information guru to the DC Universe. She decided to strike out on her own as a crime stopper and employed Black Canary, who at the time wasn’t doing a whole lot, as her # one agent and go to girl. Every once in awhile Oracle would call on other agents, usually female, including Huntress, Power Girl and even Catwoman, but her #one and only real full-time “agent” was good ol’ Dinah Lance. My how things have changed over the years. Now Birds of Prey is a regular ongoing series and Dinah Lance is back amongst the A-listers in the DC Universe, and the Birds have broken free of their Gotham confines (since the “Gang War” fiasco) and have relocated to Metropolis, and Oracle has also expanded their full time membership to include Huntress and Zinda Blake, aka Lady Blackhawk. Having taken on organized crime, murderous cults, Deathstroke and the rest of the bad guy union formed during “Infinite Crisis”, the ladies have made quite a name for themselves in the DCU. So where are the “Birds” one year later, aka post “Infinite Crisis”?

Recently, Oracle was communicating with Dr. Crime, the Dr. to the DCU’s criminal community and he is tired of the life and wants to defect over to the good side, the only problem is he’s in neck deep with the Secret Society of Super-Villains and well, blood in, blood out I guess. He’s been badly wounded, but it’s aiight. Oracle has the Birds on the case, and shortly to the rescue is the Huntress and umm, ahhh, Jade Canary. Yes, I said that right. Jade Canary aka Lady Shiva, the most deadly martial artist in the DCU, and sometime martial arts mentor to Black Canary, aka Dinah Lance. Oh yeah, Lady Blackhawk also shows up and some weird yet foxy stealth chic, and I think Dinah Lance (in a side story) is being sold into some type of martial arts slavery in the Far East. In issue 93 Canary continues her training in the East, which we learn is some type of exchange deal with Lady Shiva, and well, I aint going to say who Canary’s teacher is, but it’s kinda cool. Anyway, we get some major action from Lady Blackhawk as she, Shiva and the foxy stealth chick go pick up Dr. Crime’s daughter from school and fend her off from a horde full of HIVE shock troopers. They whoop major but, whoda thought miniskirts + shotguns = bad a$#, unfortunately Prometheus (bad dude from the JLA) shows up and takes out Shiva in a few seconds. Yeah, things start to go bad quick. Meanwhile, Black Canary passed a major whup a$# test in her weird exchange program with ummm, Lady Shiva Jade Canary or whoever and now its time for them to have a reckoning, which brings us to issue 95.

Huntress, Zinda Blake and the stealth chick have another go at Prometheus, and Black Canary decides once and for all if she is going to become the next Shiva. I’d tell you more, but the current story wraps up with this issue, and you’re going to have to check it out for yourself if you want to know any more. Yeah. Miniskirts and shotguns. “Birds of Prey” is awesome. They are back, and are the #one girl book on my reading list. Word.

Wktf’s Reviews

I’m glad to be back after a week away, and this week’s a moderate comics week for me. In addition to the three titles I’m reviewing I finally collected last week’s Daredevil HC vol. 5 and Superman. From this week’s releases I picked up AS Superman, Astonishing X-Men (I never liked Emma Frost, I'm glad she's showing her true colors), Giant-Size Hulk, and New Avengers. As for the reviews, this time we have something each from a different universe: Marvel, DC and the Ultimate Universe! And all three books are thumb’s up winners. On to the reviews!

Sgt. Rock: The Prophecy #6 of 6
DC Comics
Written by: Joe Kubert
Drawn by: Joe Kubert

This issue ends this absolutely wonderful yet horrifying mini-series written and drawn by one of the few remaining pre-Silver Age comic book legends left alive (there may only be four if you consider only Steve Ditko, Carmine Infantino and Stan the Man along with Joe Kubert). Kubert has always been known for his work on Sgt. Rock as well as Hawkman and other great titles. But, to my knowledge, never before in mainstream comics has he brought The Holocaust front and center in his work while still delivering a beautifully rendered, action packed war and battle ridden comic. For sure, this issue is my pick of the week.

David, a teen age Jewish boy, was delivered to Rock and Easy Company by a monstrously large man named Bear for safe keeping to America. David has witnessed first hand the savage murders the Nazis have committed against the Eastern European Jews. Maybe these experiences have addled his poor mind, but he continues to have visions or prophecies of long lines of millions of men, women and small children led into cattle cars only to be transported to their deaths. In this series’ prior issues, Rock and Easy actually have born witness to the mounds of emaciated corpses and experienced first hand the sadistic treatment of the Nazi elite. Where once they questioned David’s worth, at this point they question him no longer and go to extreme lengths in this issue to insure his survival. This issue is all about securing their mission. That said, like the final episode of “NYPD Blue,” Easy Company’s story does not end with David’s delivery at the end of this issue as there still is a war they must fight.

Kubert’s story and line work are beautiful in their simplicity. As John Byrne has said, this man can do more with only three lines than most could do on an entire page. Every man’s expression is riveting, the action sequences are tense and dire (several of the supporting cast do not survive them), and the stark reality both or the traditional war elements and The Holocaust horrors put this comic far above even the best of this medium’s more traditional fare. If you’ve been passing this series by because you’re not a war comics fan, well, neither am I really. When this series is packaged as a trade, do yourself a favor and buy it. You’ll be glad you did. Where else can an event that’s so unbelievable in a comic book actually pale before the actual history it elicits?

The Ultimates 2 #11
Marvel Comics
Written by: Mark Millar
Drawn by: Bryan Hitch

Oh, man! How long has it been between issues of this series? The Ultimates has marginalized itself practically to the same level as Superman/Batman with all the release delays. Unfortunately, with Superman/Batman, the last story arc ended in a dismally confusing morass. Not so with The Ultimates! At least not so far. As much as I want to be pissed off at the delays and not buy the book because of them, I’m here to tell you that this issue just rocks the house! It’s titled “America Strikes Back” and, despite both the incredible odds and the fact that the overly arrogant Fury and his crew deserve to be slapped around, striking back is what this issue is all about.

If it’s been too long and you need a recap, in the first series The Ultimates stopped a rampaging Hulk in New York and then saved the world from an alien invasion. They were hailed as the world’s heroes. However, Ultimate Loki has set forces in motion to take the team down one by one and, soon, not only had The Ultimates turned on each other, they and every hero in the Ultimate Universe plus the nation’s highest leaders are in chains, held by an international squadron of super people calling themselves “The Liberators.” Why “The Liberators”? Because Nick Fury has been using The Ultimates as a “peace keeping force” to impose America’s will on other nations (hey, it’s not MY politics….I’m just relaying the story) and “The Liberators” have struck back. But last issue The Wasp freed Captain America, and this is a brutal, take-no-prisoners Captain America. Pretty soon, the enemy body count piles up and the two other Ultimates big guns, Iron Man and the imprisoned and disempowered Thor, have moved in directions of their own. Thor’s disappearance is the most curious, especially given the last panel in which we see him and Loki’s explanation to Pym as to why he’s watching the chaos from the side lines and not taking a more active role.

This issue just explodes from all sides. Hitch has always been able to draw great, realistic superhero battle scenes, ever since his days on JLA, and his work on The Ultimates has been heralded for good reason. With this issue, especially the last few pages, he pulls out all the stops. Wow. Sure, the delays have been a real pain and, now, the final issue #12 has been split into two issues…so, ugh, we’ll have to wait some more. But, it’d be a lot worse if this book just weren’t so damn great!

Captain America #19
Marvel Comics
Written by: Ed Brubaker
Drawn by: Michael Epting

How do you keep topping yourself if you’re Brubaker and Epting and you’re working on one of the most celebrated comics runs of the last few years? Easy. You just keep doing what you’ve been doing, which is to keep turning it up a notch. To start, you’ve gotta just love the cover to this issue: Cap and Union Jack, both balancing each other out by moving in opposite directions while still being centered on the page, bullets bouncing off Cap’s shield while Jack gets off a few rounds over Cap’s left shoulder and the very ground exploding underneath them. How could a cover this good not contain a great story?

Cap and Sharon Carter, now lovers again (!), are trying to track down Bucky (now the Winter Soldier, natch!) in London. They believe Buck’s gunning for General Aleksander Lukin, the man who used to control both him and the Cosmic Cube. What no one knows is that the Red Skull, thought murdered by Lukin, actually resides inside Lukin’s mind. And, together, the Skull and Lukin have located Master Man’s nephew and turned him into the new super powered Master Man. Cap has hooked up with the new Union Jack and the original Spitfire and together, in this issue, they engage in a pitched battle with the new Master Man and his other super powered cohorts who are trying to prevent Cap from uncovering The Skull/Lukin’s plot. In the mean time, The Winter Soldier is moving undetected both by Cap and Lukin and Crossbones and Sin, who are not present here but have been such large presences the last few issues, are on their way to London as well.

This is a high octane issue with plenty of action, some espionage-type intrigue and a serious cliffhanger. I know I keep saying this but Cap has never been better and he just keeps getting better with each issue. The trick Marvel needs to pull off is to keep Epting on this title with Brubaker. His covers on Thor during the “Ragnarok” storyline were outstanding but his work here is pure gold.

wktf
06-22-2006, 09:54 AM
Here’s an interesting twist: each of the two trades we review this week were reviewed by the other reviewer when they came out as individual mini series issues. But now you get a different perspective from a different critic on these two works that recently have been newly packaged in trade format. And, away we go!

Sam Wilson’s Review

Black Widow: The Things They Say About Her
Marvel Knights
Written by: Richard K. Morgan
Drawn by: Sean Phillips and Bill Sienkiewicz

First and foremost, if you haven’t read Richard K. Morgan’s Black Widow: Homecoming limited series (also available in tpb) you will be completely lost if you pick up this new series and start reading fresh. So I’ll give a brief overview of the events of “Homecoming”: Natasha Romanova is retired from the spy game, and spends her time now rock climbing in Arizona, well, she did until someone tried to kill her on a lonely desert road. This would be assassin Natasha recognizes right away as a player, a professional in the spy/assassination game and she knows trouble is soon to follow. After calling in some favors and doing some investigating she finds out there have been several murders of former Soviet agents who now live peaceful lives in America, and they were all part of the “Red Room” training program Natasha went through. One thing leads to another, and Natasha goes across the US into Russia, and back to the US (Miami) on a journey that gives us her true origins, a gov’t conspiracy, and the murder of a big-time corporate whop-de-do at the hands of Natasha, on American soil. Yeah. Not good. At the end of “Homecoming” Natasha is a hunted woman, and she knows she’s got unfinished business coming her way (yeah, vague, I know. If you want more details, go buy the “Homecoming” tpb, it’s cheap!).

“Black Widow 2” opens up with a man in Texas swearing revenge on Natasha. Why, who knows? Considering the life she’s led, there could be a multitude of reasons. Cut to Washington DC. Nick Fury and the President are having a heated exchange regarding the status of Natasha. Fury makes it known he’s not a fan of our current administration, and well, that can’t mean anything good for the Widow. Speaking of Natasha, she’s in Cuba, on the run from what she is guessing is going to be an international sh$# storm (again, see Black Widow: Homecoming for full details on that). She hooks up the Yelnea Belova, the last Black Widow (as you can guess, this series doesn’t seem to be very “in continuity” with current events in the Marvel U) who has made quite a life for herself in Cuba: modeling, a lingerie line and a couple of soft-core porn cable channels. She dropped out of the spy game completely and is lining her pockets, living the high life. As a bit of social activism, Yelena has been helping out the local AIDS infested prostitutes by providing them with mediations (which is extremely hard to get in Cuba due to trade embargos) and thus has to make black market deals. One of these deals has gone sour, and she asks Natasha to set it right. Of course she has to go back to Miami to set it right, and thus our adventure begins. I should also mention Natasha finds time in this new series to rescue the hitchhiker she picked up from the first series from some crazy pharmaceutical experiments. Oh yeah, and Daredevil shows up quite a bit, and we even see a little bit of Nick Fury, and we also see those “North” (an independent spy agency that accepted a contract on Natasha) jagoffs from the “Homecoming” series. Natasha gets down in this new series, and damn if it isn’t just as slick as the first…

So pick up this tpb already. Natasha Romanova, easily the hottest chica in the Marvel Universe. Richard K. Morgan, super star sci fi author, and he does a damn good job at the comic thing too. Bill Sienkiewicz on covers and finished pencils (all the covers have been reprinted in the trade), this series is a no brainer. Readily in print and available for $15.99, this book easily comes recommended.

Wktf’s Review

This trade only recently came out and collects the Punisher vs. Bullseye mini series. Despite the fact that it was written by the creative team behind Wolverine: Origins, Bullseye’s Greatest Hits and Supreme Power: Nighthawk, I put off buying each individual issue because I both figured it had to soon be given the trade treatment and, knowing it was about two of my son’s favorite characters, I figured I’d be buying the trade once it hit. Hit it did, buy it I did and, given the Punisher and Bullseye activity currently going on in the monthly Brubaker/Lark Daredevil title, I figured there couldn’t be better timing to review this book.

Punisher vs. Bullseye
Marvel Comics
Written by: Daniel Way
Drawn by: Steve Dillon

Okay, to start, what a great concept. Potentially, Marvel’s two most violent, murderous and sociopathic characters, each on opposite sides of the law (at least, in their own minds) together, facing off against each other in a series solely dedicated to this match up. Considering both have been Daredevil’s adversaries over the last few decades as well as the potential for extreme violence and humor, given Bullseye’s sick sense of humor, I’m a little surprised in hindsight that it took this long to pit these two against each other. But here it is and, let me tell you, this book and creative team delivers the goods.

The conceit to bring these two together is both plausible and innovative. Alphonse Patrillo now lives in the New York suburb of Westport, CT and is recounting to his half-wit nephew, Nico, the time he was high steppin’ it at a mob family bachelor party. Judging by the tunes and the dance moves he was putting on in this flash back, this must have been around the time of “Saturday Night Fever” mania. Humorous as it is to see people wearing shark skin suits and dancing like John Travolta, the humor picks it up a notch when Fonzie discovers shark skin doesn’t stretch in certain places. This silly moment ends, though, in a hail of gunfire that sends Fonzie to find the most outlandish way possible to escape the Punisher’s mob-hating wrath incognito: in drag. A disguise he has continued to this day where he’s still living in fear, in suburbia, in drag and mourning the loss of the Patrillo family’s name and clout to the Rossi family. But he’s decided enough is enough and wants Nico to spread the word that he’s putting a half million dollar hit on The Punisher. Nico wonders who’s going to be crazy enough to take this hit, even for half a million. But we know the answer and, with that, we’re off to the races.

While it may not seem like you can get a five part series out of this match up I’m here to tell you that Way and Dillon keep the plot twisting and turning every step of the way. Each character gets the leg up on the other at different times but the match up itself is the vehicle for a greater ruse that Bullseye actually has going. Only, to his credit and colossal ego, it’s a ruse that could very well get him killed. But, of course, it doesn’t. In fact, it’s Bullseye who’s one step ahead of everyone in this story, even the two warring crime families but to tell you how that’s so would be telling you too much. Suffice it to say, the trade dress doesn’t lie in saying there’s “wall-to-wall action,” complete with lots of gunfire and explosions, great hand-to-hand combat, and lots and lots of innocent bystanders dropping dead by the wayside. Punisher fans should know that their guy, while being well represented as the take-no-prisoners kind of guy he is, comes off a little two-dimensional here…but I don’t have much of a problem with that given that’s the kind of character he is. Daniel Way keeps the reader on his toes in ways you simply don’t expect as the story cork screws around to its surprise ending and his dialogue throughout this book is spot-on perfect for both characters. The Rossi family is not in on the joke we know when Bullseye says to them, “It’s gonna cost ya” with a wry smile on his face. And Dillon, with whose art I first became introduced on his outstanding “Preacher” series, is in high gear all the way here. I swear he’s channeling Frank Miller with his Bullseye, but everything he draws from the characters’ facial expressions to the explosive action just makes for high octane comic book fun. This trade also includes reproductions of the five covers, some cover process sketches by Mike Deodato, Jr. and Mark Texeira, and unused cover sketches by Steve Dillon. If you’re a fan of either character or just of a great comic book reading experience, you should pick up this book. For the $13.99 cover price it’s well worth it.

thecallahan
06-22-2006, 10:00 AM
Yeah, Ultimates release schedule sucks but at least it's good. You have Wolvie vs Hulk and that's on issue 2 in what, 7 months? And I'm not particularly impressed with that book either.

Sam Wilson
06-22-2006, 10:21 AM
yeah, Ult. hulk vs. wolvie is way off schedule and that is lame, but i personally really liked the book. I like that Liniel Yu on pencils, he also did a nifty cover for punisher vs. bullseye which is in the tpb wktf reviewed...

Kdawg59
06-22-2006, 10:22 AM
It was a great comic week wasn't it guys?

Man I read astonishing in my car before I even left the LCS parking lot.

F***in' Emma... I never trusted her... Her true colors are revealed and I can stand her even less now.

The scenes with Colossus and Shaw are the stand outs to me... Reminds me of the old days when Claemont and Romita JR were kickin butt on uncanny.

Not to mention and some may not agree. The homage to the famous wolvie panel in the sewers with Kitty...

Man the the memories...

I think Cap is consitantly one of my favorites and New Avengers and everything else I picked up just had me smiling yesterday...

wktf
06-22-2006, 10:27 AM
I think b_c plans to review AXM but I agree about the Wolverine homage with Kitty Pride. We must be on the same wave length about the Romita JR days, Keith, 'cause I was thinking the same thing. Colossus really threw down but I was surprised he didn't realize what Shaw's strategy was and why he just let Colossus keep pummeling him. Yeah, as I said in my review, I've never trusted Emma. I know b_c feels she really loves Scott, and I actually believe that's true, and she may turn on the Hellfire Club as a result, but I'm with Kitty. We all knew this was coming and that she just was not to be trusted. Her true colors have come out at last. I also LOVED the scene with Wolverine: "I'm the best at what I do and what I do is...so pretty!" :laugh: :laugh:

You know I'm right there with you on Cap. This book just rocks but needs Epting as it's regular artist. Deodoto's pencils on New Avengers seemed a bit sloppy to me this issue but the ending caught me off guard. Really good issue.

Sam Wilson
06-22-2006, 10:27 AM
dawg, are you going to check out the eternals? Dig that sexy copiel cover... :D

JDH
06-22-2006, 10:27 AM
Good to have you back, WKTF! Last week's reviews went way downhill without you.;) I might check out that Punisher Bullseye trade one day...

Sam Wilson
06-22-2006, 10:30 AM
here is that cover I keep ranting about:

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/wizarduniverse_1903_425971215

j, you gonna get eternals? I can score you a variant if you want, just LMK.

I haven't read astonishing yet, dammit. I'll get to it though. And the reviews were passable last week, some british dude helped out... :inquisiti :)

Sam Wilson
06-22-2006, 10:33 AM
You know I'm right there with you on Cap. This book just rocks but needs Epting as it's regular artist. Deodoto's pencils on New Avengers seemed a bit sloppy to me this issue but the ending caught me off guard. Really good issue.


100% agree on deodoto's pencils on NA. And word on cap of course.

Deodoto seems either on or off, I wasn't impressed with his hulk stuff, but really liked him on wonder woman and tigra, and the stuff I've seen from his Ultimates work is awesome (hell, I bought that one cover), so humph I guess. He isn't consistant, I'll say that for sure...

Kdawg59
06-22-2006, 10:36 AM
dawg, are you going to check out the eternals? Dig that sexy copiel cover... :D

I'll probably snag it on your review Sam... Least see what's it's all about. Sersi's pretty hot so... yeah:)

bat_collector
06-22-2006, 10:41 AM
Keith, I'm reviewing astonishing tonight.

I'll waito n a trade for the eternals.

however, I hope DC decides to give the New Gods the same treatment. we need them back. I'm reading the new gods trade from original 70's run (thanks to babytoxie) and absolutely love it. Those are kirby's best creations to me!

Orion rocks!

Kdawg59
06-22-2006, 10:44 AM
I think b_c plans to review AXM but I agree about the Wolverine homage with Kitty Pride. We must be on the same wave length about the Romita JR days, Keith, 'cause I was thinking the same thing. Colossus really threw down but I was surprised he didn't realize what Shaw's strategy was and why he just let Colossus keep pummeling him. Yeah, as I said in my review, I've never trusted Emma. I know b_c feels she really loves Scott, and I actually believe that's true, and she may turn on the Hellfire Club as a result, but I'm with Kitty. We all knew this was coming and that she just was not to be trusted. Her true colors have come out at last. I also LOVED the scene with Wolverine: "I'm the best at what I do and what I do is...so pretty!" :laugh: :laugh:

You know I'm right there with you on Cap. This book just rocks but needs Epting as it's regular artist. Deodoto's pencils on New Avengers seemed a bit sloppy to me this issue but the ending caught me off guard. Really good issue.


You know what else too??? I am totally with you on Pete not realizing what Sebastian was up to. I was reading it and I was like... Pete what are you doing buddy? He's just letting you tag him like he used to and he's gonna beat the tar out of you in a minute. I think that Colossus just has a ton of aggression and figured "If I keep hammering him hard enough, who cares?"

Wolvie and Beast was great too... how about the dialogue and storytelling when Xavier's sis to Beast "can you even smell if anyone is in this room?" and wolvie is there behind her in shadow.

Also the panels with Emma getting her act in place to tell the others about Scott... Two ways to look at this... she was prepping her act... or she was truly tearful at what she had done and the pause was because of that.

either way the visual storrytelling of Cassaday is what makes Whedons story more alive than 7/8 of any other book out there. I dread the day that the ride is over and I hope it does not ever become a more mundane X-Book like the others are...

I do have high hopes for Brubaker on uncanny even though I am not fond of Billy Tan's art.

I normally like deodato's stuff (sam's Falcon cover) but I think I like his art for covers and pin-ups waaaaay more than I do for inner story telling. Him cranking out the panels seems less tight than his splashes.

Kdawg59
06-22-2006, 10:45 AM
Keith, I'm reviewing astonishing tonight.

I'll waito n a trade for the eternals.

however, I hope DC decides to give the New Gods the same treatment. we need them back. I'm reading the new gods trade from original 70's run (thanks to babytoxie) and absolutely love it. Those are kirby's best creations to me!

Orion rocks!

Hurry up Mikey... I wanna see your take on it... and talk about it a ton more...

bat_collector
06-22-2006, 10:53 AM
Hurry up Mikey... I wanna see your take on it... and talk about it a ton more...
I haven't even read it yet, bro. Was a bit busy last night.

thecallahan
06-22-2006, 11:06 AM
On the Emma thing in AXM, it tells you in the second or third to last page that Emma was the one who wanted Kitty on the team. She did that because she knew Kitty wouldn't trust her and have the best chance of saving the X-Men when Emma betray's them. Emma wanted to get caught.

And the Wolvie rhyming bit was my favorite stuff in this issue.

Bullseye
06-22-2006, 11:10 AM
Fantastic review of the Bullseye v Punisher guys. I have the first to comics and plan on buying the trade. Jess was good enough to pick up a very nice splash page from the series. Cannot wait to read this and see how it ends.

wktf
06-22-2006, 11:21 AM
Also the panels with Emma getting her act in place to tell the others about Scott... Two ways to look at this... she was prepping her act... or she was truly tearful at what she had done and the pause was because of that.
My take on that was that she was prepping her act, like (what's his name) in the movie Broadcast News with Holly Hunter. I don't think, at that time, she was tearful over what she'd done.

Callahan, as far as bringing Kitty on so she would get caught, I don't know. I think she sees Kitty as a weak link and easy prey.

The Wolvie rhymming was great!!! You're right that this has been a great ride. I, too, am dreading the end of this creative team's run on AXM.

wktf
06-22-2006, 11:23 AM
Keith, I'm reviewing astonishing tonight.

I'll waito n a trade for the eternals.

however, I hope DC decides to give the New Gods the same treatment. we need them back. I'm reading the new gods trade from original 70's run (thanks to babytoxie) and absolutely love it. Those are kirby's best creations to me!

Orion rocks!
Mike, have you read the two Jack Kirby "Jimmy Olsen" trades? You should, if not, as they have the very first appearance of Darkseid and the New Gods. These are among the best, most mind blowing stuff Kirby's done (though the Universal Monster riff toward the end was kinda silly, IMHO).

wktf
06-22-2006, 11:34 AM
dawg, are you going to check out the eternals? Dig that sexy copiel cover... :D
Sam, here are the covers (though, not Copiel variants) for Eternals issues #2 & 3:

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74489

thecallahan
06-22-2006, 11:39 AM
My take on that was that she was prepping her act, like (what's his name) in the movie Broadcast News with Holly Hunter. I don't think, at that time, she was tearful over what she'd done.

Callahan, as far as bringing Kitty on so she would get caught, I don't know. I think she sees Kitty as a weak link and easy prey.

The Wolvie rhymming was great!!! You're right that this has been a great ride. I, too, am dreading the end of this creative team's run on AXM.

The way I read those words those, was Emma was saying that. So she knew what Kitty's capable of. Pryde for team leader!! :buttrock: :D

Sam Wilson
06-22-2006, 11:39 AM
thanks joe, that cover for three looks good... JR Jr's inside is pretty smoking as well.

wktf
06-22-2006, 11:58 AM
JR JR on Kirby's characters is always smoking. I loved what he did on Thor.

bomen
06-22-2006, 01:23 PM
man, I love these reviews. Agree or disagree on them (and I do occassionally) they are thoughtful and complete...and challenge my own thinking.

not to mention my buying plans!

Kdawg59
06-22-2006, 01:32 PM
The way I read those words those, was Emma was saying that. So she knew what Kitty's capable of. Pryde for team leader!! :buttrock: :D


I see what you are saying totally. I guess I was just a bit thrown off because Kitty was narrating all issue and then I must have missed it all of the sudden when it was Emma talking...

I took all that stuff to be coming from kitty and just her telling how she has never trusted Emma...

Jesse321
06-22-2006, 02:43 PM
The "stealth chick's" name in BOP is Gypsy.

Great reviews guys ... I still haven't read Eternals yet, going to read it tonight.

wktf
06-22-2006, 03:14 PM
man, I love these reviews. Agree or disagree on them (and I do occassionally) they are thoughtful and complete...and challenge my own thinking.

not to mention my buying plans!
Thanks, bomen! That's high praise, indeed. Thanks, Jesse, for the props as well. :)

Funny "Eternals" story. I forgot to pick up the book when I went to my lcs yesterday. I walked in today and botht the owner and one of his employees asked me why I was back so soon. I told them I forgot "The Eternals" and they both responded, aghast, together: "YOU FORGOT THE ETERNALS??!!" Everyone in the store turned and looked at me. OK, I felt a little goodnaturedly foolish and it was pretty funny. They know what a big JR JR fan I am.

Sam Wilson
06-22-2006, 08:51 PM
Thanks, bomen! That's high praise, indeed. Thanks, Jesse, for the props as well. :)

Funny "Eternals" story. I forgot to pick up the book when I went to my lcs yesterday. I walked in today and botht the owner and one of his employees asked me why I was back so soon. I told them I forgot "The Eternals" and they both responded, aghast, together: "YOU FORGOT THE ETERNALS??!!" Everyone in the store turned and looked at me. OK, I felt a little goodnaturedly foolish and it was pretty funny. They know what a big JR JR fan I am.


the question is brother, did you get the dead sexy cover, or just the dope JR jr cover?

I know the DAWG got the dead sexy one... :D

melike
06-22-2006, 09:28 PM
Regarding the Eternals i bet i get the painted cover :( I wish id get the jrjr cover or especially the coipel cover but the 'variants' never seem to be available - why make them so rare.

CocoPUFF
06-23-2006, 01:01 AM
It was a great comic week wasn't it guys?

Man I read astonishing in my car before I even left the LCS parking lot.

F***in' Emma... I never trusted her... Her true colors are revealed and I can stand her even less now.

The scenes with Colossus and Shaw are the stand outs to me... Reminds me of the old days when Claemont and Romita JR were kickin butt on uncanny.

Not to mention and some may not agree. The homage to the famous wolvie panel in the sewers with Kitty...

Man the the memories...

I think Cap is consitantly one of my favorites and New Avengers and everything else I picked up just had me smiling yesterday... awesome week!!! Ultimates 2, Justice, Flash, Constantine, eternals, astonishing xmen, not to mention the variants! Damn 70 bucks this week in books!

Sam Wilson
06-23-2006, 08:36 AM
The "stealth chick's" name in BOP is Gypsy.




yeah, I know, you told me last time bro. I was just to lazy to look it up. :)

Umm, I really did not care for the art in this issue though. Miss Ed Benes, I think BOP deserves a high profile artist. What say you?

bat_collector
06-23-2006, 09:17 AM
Ughh, as some of you know I'm handling a lot on my plate right now and won't get reviews up till tonight, at earliest. What good am I?

On the other hand, Astonishing rocks! One thing I think Marvel has had over DC lately is great creative teams:

Whedon/Cassady
Brubaker/Epting
Bendis/Finch

I can't think of many dc books that have had that same team for a while, something that makes the comic stand out (except for you loeb/sale collaborations)

wktf
06-23-2006, 10:01 AM
the question is brother, did you get the dead sexy cover, or just the dope JR jr cover?

I know the DAWG got the dead sexy one... :D
I wanted that incredible Copiel cover but my lcs was selling it for $30. He only got two in as Diamond was shipping one for every 75 of the regular covers. I figure all the covers will be reprinted in the trade so I didn't get either the Copiel or the JR JR cover.

On the issue itself, I finally read it last night and think your review is spot on. Man, love the art! And that big two page spread was awesome! But the story, I'm a little on the fence. Have to admit I'm intrigued as to why the Eternals have all lost their memories, well, with the exception of the "golden eyed" stranger and am curious where this story's going. It reads more like a mystery than a super hero comic story which is fine. I'm going to keep buying and see where this goes but, at this point, unlike the first issue of Civil War, I'm not much passed intrigued.

thecallahan
06-23-2006, 10:04 AM
yeah, I know, you told me last time bro. I was just to lazy to look it up. :)

Umm, I really did not care for the art in this issue though. Miss Ed Benes, I think BOP deserves a high profile artist. What say you?

I know you weren't asking me but I'll answer.

Word! :buttrock:

wktf
06-23-2006, 10:05 AM
Ughh, as some of you know I'm handling a lot on my plate right now and won't get reviews up till tonight, at earliest. What good am I?

On the other hand, Astonishing rocks! One thing I think Marvel has had over DC lately is great creative teams:

Whedon/Cassady
Brubaker/Epting
Bendis/Finch

I can't think of many dc books that have had that same team for a while, something that makes the comic stand out (except for you loeb/sale collaborations)
Mike, get 'em posted when you can. No biggie. We've actually covered Astonishing quite a bit in this thread but anything you can add to it will be great.

I agree with your assessment of Marvel, though it seems that the Bendis/Finch pairing is a thing of the past, like the Hudlin/Romita JR pairing. But don't forget the long run of Bendis/Maleev on DD or Waid/Ringo on FF, as well as Jurgens' long run on Thor where he had some extended parings with JR JR and Tom Raney. And, of course, there's the reprisal of Brubaker and Lark's pairing on DD, as they paired up on Gotham Central for the Distinguished Competition.

wktf
06-23-2006, 10:06 AM
yeah, I know, you told me last time bro. I was just to lazy to look it up. :)

Umm, I really did not care for the art in this issue though. Miss Ed Benes, I think BOP deserves a high profile artist. What say you?
Very few can draw hot chicas like Benes. As thecallahan said:

Word! :buttrock:

Kdawg59
06-23-2006, 10:35 AM
*clears throat and does his best Sam*

ED BENES... WORD! :buttrock:

bat_collector
06-23-2006, 10:58 AM
i think my favorite part of AXM has yet to be discussed, so plenty to talk about with that issue in my reviews.

thecallahan
06-23-2006, 11:14 AM
Mike, get 'em posted when you can. No biggie. We've actually covered Astonishing quite a bit in this thread but anything you can add to it will be great.

I agree with your assessment of Marvel, though it seems that the Bendis/Finch pairing is a thing of the past, like the Hudlin/Romita JR pairing. But don't forget the long run of Bendis/Maleev on DD or Waid/Ringo on FF, as well as Jurgens' long run on Thor where he had some extended parings with JR JR and Tom Raney. And, of course, there's the reprisal of Brubaker and Lark's pairing on DD, as they paired up on Gotham Central for the Distinguished Competition.

Don't forget Bendis/Bagley, who're fast approaching setting the record for most consecutive issues done by the same writer/artist!

wktf
06-23-2006, 12:33 PM
Don't forget Bendis/Bagley, who're fast approaching setting the record for most consecutive issues done by the same writer/artist!
You are so totally right about that! They may well yet pass the Lee/Kirby run on FF!!

madjazz
06-23-2006, 01:09 PM
On the Emma thing in AXM, it tells you in the second or third to last page that Emma was the one who wanted Kitty on the team. She did that because she knew Kitty wouldn't trust her and have the best chance of saving the X-Men when Emma betray's them. Emma wanted to get caught.

And the Wolvie rhyming bit was my favorite stuff in this issue.
Remember Buffy. One thing about Whedon is things are never like they seem.

I won't have my issue for another week or so. I may have more to add then.

I have the Black Widow tpbk sitting on my desk. I think that gets read on the plane on Monday.

Sam Wilson
06-23-2006, 01:10 PM
*clears throat and does his best Sam*

ED BENES... WORD! :buttrock:


yeah. WORD pretty much sums it all up... :buttrock:

joe, I'll check my sources for a cheaper copiel variant for you...

Kdawg59
06-23-2006, 01:24 PM
Remember Buffy. One thing about Whedon is things are never like they seem.

I won't have my issue for another week or so. I may have more to add then.

I have the Black Widow tpbk sitting on my desk. I think that gets read on the plane on Monday.


If you see Tony and Elaine smack him on his head for me Jazzy and don't smack her for me:)

Bullseye
06-23-2006, 01:25 PM
*clears throat and does his best Sam*

ED BENES... WORD! :buttrock:

Erm that Spider-woman is Hot. :eplus2:

Kdawg59
06-23-2006, 01:26 PM
yeah. WORD pretty much sums it all up... :buttrock:




I think he has come a long way... I remember his much differently than he draws now. Wasn't he a Jim lee type of Clone for awhile?

Now he draws his own style and I really dig it.

thecallahan
06-23-2006, 01:29 PM
Speaking of Benes, he has some Birds of Prey pages up on ebay, ending in a few hours. They're still under a 100 last time I checked.

Sam Wilson
06-23-2006, 01:34 PM
Speaking of Benes, he has some Birds of Prey pages up on ebay, ending in a few hours. They're still under a 100 last time I checked.


love you callahan, I'm all over them...

madjazz
06-23-2006, 01:36 PM
If you see Tony and Elaine smack him on his head for me Jazzy and don't smack her for me:)
Shall do. I didn't see them this trip and probably not next week, either. I have at least 5 more trips over the Summer, so I'm sure I can accomodate your request. :)

thecallahan
06-23-2006, 01:53 PM
love you callahan, I'm all over them...

Haha, no problemo. I was considering going for them but I'll have no money until the middle of next month. The rest is spoken for either bills, some artwork from James and that's it. :( I can't even bid on a cover to a Gold Digger comic (my favorite comic).

Good luck!

RichBamf
06-23-2006, 03:11 PM
WKTF, nice to have you back.

Good reviews as always-no review of GLC though, hope Mike'll be doing that later.

Unless it was out last week :redface:

I pick up my comics every three weeks, so I'm always behind. :laugh:

wktf
06-23-2006, 11:09 PM
WKTF, nice to have you back.
Thanks, RichBamg, good to be back. :thumbs2:

mwf6171
06-23-2006, 11:56 PM
Joe, I was kind of let down with Sgt Rock #6. IMO, there was no climax to the story. I will have to re-read these......

Capt America was awsome!! I wish Union Jack was going to be in more issues....

RichBamf
06-24-2006, 06:25 AM
Joe, I was kind of let down with Sgt Rock #6. IMO, there was no climax to the story. I will have to re-read these......

Capt America was awsome!! I wish Union Jack was going to be in more issues....

Well, you do have the Union Jack mini to look forward to! :D

RichBamf
06-24-2006, 06:40 AM
Sam your top-notch review of Eternals made me go out and pick up the first issue today.
You two have a lot to answer for, since I started reading your reviews, my monthly pulls have gone up by 30%! :laugh:

I'd never read Eternals before, basically because i'd read New Gods, and the two concepts seemed too similar for me to like both. I liked the first issue though, wasn't fantastic, but making me want to read more.

And hey, if I can sit and read Flash #1 and want to pick up the next issue, Eternals is at least gonna get one more chance!

Can't you guys do bad reveiws one week, to save me a little cash! :laugh:

Sam Wilson
06-24-2006, 08:07 AM
Sam your top-notch review of Eternals made me go out and pick up the first issue today.
You two have a lot to answer for, since I started reading your reviews, my monthly pulls have gone up by 30%! :laugh:




thanks rich. Which cover you get? Heh, cause of joe I have about 8 gazillion tpbs now as well. oy vey... :)

I was just telling kdawg yesterday all of on this board are enables for each other, in the hobby of collecting sh$# anyway.

mwf6171
06-24-2006, 08:14 AM
Well, you do have the Union Jack mini to look forward to!


Yeah, if they screw that up like they did the New Invaders, Marvel will rue the day!!!!!!!!! :stick: :stick: :eplus2: :mad:

mwf6171
06-24-2006, 08:17 AM
Sammy, I ALMOST picked up the Eternals too.................had to talk myself out of it. I looked through it and the story seemed OK and the art is JRJR, so it :buttrock: I just need to cut back on my stuff cause of the new house and new baby and all......................




Will probably pick it up next time I swing by the LCS................. :redface: :rolleyes: :laugh:

RichBamf
06-24-2006, 08:17 AM
thanks rich. Which cover you get? Heh, cause of joe I have about 8 gazillion tpbs now as well. oy vey... :)

I was just telling kdawg yesterday all of on this board are enables for each other, in the hobby of collecting sh$# anyway.

I got the Romita cover, I'll pick the other one up when I go into London next weekend.

Yeah it's great the stuff people do for each other here, the only downside is that (at least for me) I can't go out and have a beer with some of the guys I really love chatting to. Beer helps the conversation flow :laugh:

RichBamf
06-24-2006, 08:20 AM
Yeah, if they screw that up like they did the New Invaders, Marvel will rue the day!!!!!!!!!

They can't screw that up, it looks so good!

The cover with the tube map is worth the cover price alone!

It's about time Jack got drafted into the Avengers, Marvel have been treating him with a fair amount of respect lately so fingers crossed... :)

mwf6171
06-24-2006, 08:22 AM
They can't screw that up, it looks so good!

The cover with the tube map is worth the cover price alone!

It's about time Jack got drafted into the Avengers, Marvel have been treating him with a fair amount of respect lately so fingers crossed... :)

IMO, it would be kick ass to have Union Jack in a Marvel team up kind of thing............have short story arcs with him and other Marvel heroes battling terrorism and the like. I think it could be a sweet idea. :)

RichBamf
06-24-2006, 08:30 AM
IMO, it would be kick ass to have Union Jack in a Marvel team up kind of thing............have short story arcs with him and other Marvel heroes battling terrorism and the like. I think it could be a sweet idea. :)

Sounds cool, London is an untapped goldmine of potential as far as comics is concerned.

Of course the ideal conclusion is an invaders title, but I think that's a bit too hopeful :(

wktf
06-24-2006, 09:51 AM
Joe, I was kind of let down with Sgt Rock #6. IMO, there was no climax to the story. I will have to re-read these......

Capt America was awsome!! I wish Union Jack was going to be in more issues....
Mike, I understand what you mean by Sgt. Rock. That's actually why I referenced the final episode of NYPD Blue. Though the series ended it didn't seem as if the story did. That's because life goes on and, in Rock's case, this mission took place during WWII and Rock and Easy still had a job to do after completing this mission. In a way you're left hanging at the end but, to me, that made this story in particular more compelling because it added to the realism Kubert was creating aftert bathing us in the realities of both war battles and Holocaust horror. But, again, I understand your point.

As far as Union Jack, I really hope his upcoming book is a big seller. I also think he'd make a great Avenger though he's stationed in London.

And, yeah, Captain America is just awesome these days! I'm so glad he's back on top of the comics world!

wktf
06-26-2006, 05:50 PM
More praise for Captain America, from www.newsarama.com:

Captain America # 19 (Marvel; by Koben): Forget about his upcoming work on Marvel's merry mutants, this is the Brubaker book not to miss! While evil heavy, Lukin, converses with the voice in his head, Captains America and Britain, along with Spitfire, take on the threat of the Master Race, resulting in the major explodo. An interrogation of a big-time arms dealer sheds some light on the whereabouts of the Winter Soldier. What ties does the Red Skull have to the leader of the Master Race? Steve Epting's art, inked by himself and by Perkins, is beautiful, realistic, and brutal. Simply fantastic, every month. Did I mention the gorgeous Agent 13? Yeah, Sharon's in there, too. *sigh*

mwf6171
06-27-2006, 12:21 AM
Mike, I understand what you mean by Sgt. Rock. That's actually why I referenced the final episode of NYPD Blue. Though the series ended it didn't seem as if the story did. That's because life goes on and, in Rock's case, this mission took place during WWII and Rock and Easy still had a job to do after completing this mission. In a way you're left hanging at the end but, to me, that made this story in particular more compelling because it added to the realism Kubert was creating aftert bathing us in the realities of both war battles and Holocaust horror. But, again, I understand your point.

As far as Union Jack, I really hope his upcoming book is a big seller. I also think he'd make a great Avenger though he's stationed in London.

And, yeah, Captain America is just awesome these days! I'm so glad he's back on top of the comics world!

I would LOVE to see Marvel start up the Invaders again with Union Jack in the lead as a super powered anti-terrorist group. Union Jack, Spitfire, Winter Soldier..............who else would be good to have?????

Joe, do you think they are going to kill Bucky at the end of this Capt America arc??? Gods, I hope not.......

wktf
06-27-2006, 08:33 AM
I would LOVE to see Marvel start up the Invaders again with Union Jack in the lead as a super powered anti-terrorist group. Union Jack, Spitfire, Winter Soldier..............who else would be good to have?????

Joe, do you think they are going to kill Bucky at the end of this Capt America arc??? Gods, I hope not.......
Mike, I sincerely doubt it. They've put too much into bringing him back and he has too much potential in his new identity since being back. Plus, they've integrated him into Wolverine's history. I think we'll be seeing more of Buck Barnes after this latest Cap arc.

thecallahan
06-27-2006, 08:43 AM
I just wish they'd release the new Cap America series in oversized HC format.

joy_division
07-04-2006, 10:18 AM
I got Eternals on the basis that it was written by gaiman. wasn't too keen that it was drawn by Romita though...can't stand his art style - it's too... "blocky"

I'll probably stick with it

wktf
07-04-2006, 06:18 PM
I got Eternals on the basis that it was written by gaiman. wasn't too keen that it was drawn by Romita though...can't stand his art style - it's too... "blocky"

I'll probably stick with it
Romita Jr is the artist who's style most closely resembles Kirby in terms of sheer power and dynamism. Not to say he can mimick Kirby like Steve Rude or Bruce Timm can. JR JR did some outstanding work on Thor that had the Kirby feel to it and I think he's doing the same thing on Eternals.

joy_division
07-05-2006, 09:46 AM
but it is so different from Kirby! It is too sketchy! It looks like it is half finished

wktf
07-05-2006, 04:37 PM
but it is so different from Kirby! It is too sketchy! It looks like it is half finished
Often this is a function of who's inking the pencils. Kirby's Thor work often looked sketchy due to Vince Coletta's simply awful inking. Check out JR JR's work on Iron Man with Bob Layton inking him, or his Thor and Wolverine work both inked by Klaus Janson, or his earlier Spider-Man inked by Jim Mooney, X-Men inked by Dan Green, Daredevil inked by Al Williamson, Hulk inked by Tom Palmer, or his later Spider-Man inked by Scott Hanna. All exceptional stuff!

It's really the pure power and energy his work conveys rather than similarity in styles, which do have similarities after all.

JDH
07-05-2006, 04:51 PM
Hanna brings out the best in JRJr, in my book - but even I could ink it and he would still be the best penciller working in comics today. He's the only artist I would buy a book for.

wktf
07-05-2006, 05:02 PM
I think you're correct, jdh. That said, I thought JR JR's work, inked by Klaus Janson, produced some incredibly powerful Thor issues. They just crackled and screamed with energy!

JDH
07-05-2006, 05:04 PM
I think you're correct, jdh. That said, I thought JR JR's work, inked by Klaus Janson, produced some incredibly powerful Thor issues. They just crackled and screamed with energy!

Yup, that was a great comination too. You could say they Krackled...