View Full Version : Original A IX hanging in there price-wise..
cblakey1
07-08-2006, 03:37 AM
.. here's a few auctions that have recently ended:
TOP COW APHRODITE IX MOORE CREATIONS #166/4000 STATUE $489.00
Moore/Top Cow (APHRODITE IX) Factory Proof Sexy Statue $787.00
Aphrodite IX Statue #873 Signed by Moore--RARE! $919.00
MOORE CREATIONS APHRODITE IX NIB NR $475.00
Man, no way in hell I'd pay $919.00 for a signed one.
Wonder if these folks know about the AP coming out and if they tried to get one before going to the 'baY? I expected a small dip in the value, but it's cool to see that it's hardly affected by the recasts. :buttrock:
i wonder who would flip the AP Aphrodite? haven't seen one yet. I would like to know how much it would go for. :DJsmile:
dfchang
07-08-2006, 12:42 PM
The original run of Aprodite IX was 4000. Whether all 4000 were produced and sold is unknown to me but considering the state of the statue collectible market at that time, it is probably unlikely.
Still if Aphrodite IX's are selling for 400 to 700 dollars with an initial run of 4000 an additinal 350 pieces even with altered base shouldn't afffect prices at all.
All pieces will continue to maintain around 500 dollars or so.
Dennis
ComputerFly
07-08-2006, 12:55 PM
Actually 2 of the original AIX's sold for $919 to the same buyer. One signed, one unsigned, one right after the other(who knows why). The one that sold for $489 was covered in dust in the one photo they posted, so it's no wonder it didn't sell for more.
There's no way this AP is going to cause the original to diminish in value. For one thing, there are only 350 of them and they are mostly being purchased by the people here, and most of us probably already own the first one. Second, the base, whether you like it or dislike it, makes this a unique piece. So I wouldn't worry about a drop in value of the original. If anything, it makes the original look even better in my eyes. In fact, considering how fast this piece went, it may have created even MORE interest in the original.
As for the question of how many original Aphrodite IXs there are, I would LOVE to hear from any members here (even you lurkers out there) to POST YOUR original AIX Edition number, if anyone here has one over the number 1000. Let's see who has the highest number.
stormshadow007
07-08-2006, 01:07 PM
Actually 2 of the original AIX's sold for $919 to the same buyer. One signed, one unsigned, one right after the other(who knows why). The one that sold for $489 was covered in dust in the one photo they posted, so it's no wonder it didn't sell for more.
As for the question of how many original Aphrodite IXs there are, I would LOVE to hear from any members here (even you lurkers out there) to POST YOUR original AIX Edition number, if anyone here has one over the number 1000. Let's see who has the highest number.
That dust cost that guy about $400.....what a shame :D
Tizou
07-08-2006, 08:28 PM
I add : Aphrodite IX Statue by Moore Creations - #566/4000 919$ too, it's the same guy who buy the other at 919$ too
Me I think it's they are noob, they bid at the start of the auction and always when they are outbided, if you want somehting bid only and the END with your Maximum price and you win or you loose that's all but DON'T BID every HOURS !!!!!
tsssss i hate that :mad: pfff
imagine for christmas, the First A IX statue price.....
5000$ ????? :confused2
Tizou
07-08-2006, 08:30 PM
Sorry ComputerFly didn't read all your reply you told it before me :)
But i saw a friend who have #3752/4000
ComputerFly
07-08-2006, 11:10 PM
Hey Tizou,
Here is a quote from Clay regarding the original AIX:
"As I have explained, we only did 1,400 of the original edition. I could do 1,100 more of that piece. I'm not doing that, but the AP edition will be produced at 350 units. It will have a new base and a certificate of authenticity."
So I believe you may be mistaken on the edition number of your friend's statue. If you have a picture, that would be VERY interesting to see.
BTW I have #927, anyone got a higher number?
dfchang
07-09-2006, 12:43 AM
So I believe you may be mistaken on the edition number of your friend's statue. If you have a picture, that would be VERY interesting to see.
BTW I have #927, anyone got a higher number?
No there is nothing strange or interesting about that. Statues are not numbered consecutively but randomly. So there can be say an initial 1400 run of a planned 4000 but in that 1400 piece run we'll have number in the 2000s, 3000s, etc.
Dennis
I think once the AP statue is released, the original's value will decrease. Both statues will obviously sell for above suggested retail though. I just hope that almost all of the APs are going to people who actually wanted one for their collection, rather than to a bunch of flippers.
I think once the AP statue is released, the original's value will decrease. Both statues will obviously sell for above suggested retail though. I just hope that almost all of the APs are going to people who actually wanted one for their collection, rather than to a bunch of flippers.
probably 300 to actually wants it and 50 to flippers. :banghead:
BobbyW
07-09-2006, 02:23 AM
I'm glad I pre-ordered one of the AP's and as far as originals, I have number 5. Guess that doesn't help with the numbers theory
ComputerFly
07-09-2006, 08:36 AM
No there is nothing strange or interesting about that. Statues are not numbered consecutively but randomly. So there can be say an initial 1400 run of a planned 4000 but in that 1400 piece run we'll have number in the 2000s, 3000s, etc.
Dennis
I disagree.
So you're saying these chinese painters just sit around and say, "OH, this is #5 I think", while 2 rows over in the paint shop, another guy says, "Well, I think I'll use #20?" Doesn't seem very likely. My guess is, after the painting is completed, whoever 'numbers' the pieces in a production run, has a list he goes straight down, one right after the other, and my guess is it's in numerical order. You're logic is flawed. And yes, I would find it interesting, despite your comment, to see who has a number over 1400, and PROVE it with pictures.
Now, on the other hand, playing devil's advocate, it may be that someone hands each painter a unique list of serial numbers, but why would they give them numbers in the 2 and 3 thousands. I have serious doubts about it. I would still say they would 'start with page 1' featuring #1 through whatever, and so on and so forth...
I think comicbkguy may have some input about the actual manufacturing process, any guidance on the numbering process would be appreciated. :)
comicbkguy
07-09-2006, 12:03 PM
I disagree.
So you're saying these chinese painters just sit around and say, "OH, this is #5 I think", while 2 rows over in the paint shop, another guy says, "Well, I think I'll use #20?" Doesn't seem very likely. My guess is, after the painting is completed, whoever 'numbers' the pieces in a production run, has a list he goes straight down, one right after the other, and my guess is it's in numerical order. You're logic is flawed. And yes, I would find it interesting, despite your comment, to see who has a number over 1400, and PROVE it with pictures.
Now, on the other hand, playing devil's advocate, it may be that someone hands each painter a unique list of serial numbers, but why would they give them numbers in the 2 and 3 thousands. I have serious doubts about it. I would still say they would 'start with page 1' featuring #1 through whatever, and so on and so forth...
I think comicbkguy may have some input about the actual manufacturing process, any guidance on the numbering process would be appreciated. :)
I'll ask Clay guys. I always thought that we had them numbered sequentially, but I wouldn't swear to that fact.
Captains of Industry
07-09-2006, 05:00 PM
I predict this piece will hold its ground at around $500 in the long run. $910 is an anomaly, especially because both auctions were won by the same bidder who may be trying to hoard these and is being very impatient about it.
HardHeroine
08-19-2006, 06:47 AM
just didn't want to open a new topic...
eBay auction AIX Factory Proof?? (http://cgi.ebay.com/Moore-Top-Cow-APHRODITE-IX-Factory-Proof-Sexy-Statue_W0QQitemZ160020037513QQihZ006QQcategoryZ80QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
still looking for a 2nd AIX original, but was curious why the seller says it is a factory proof when there is the edition size of 4000 on it...
...I have a Frazetta's princess which is also without a No. ____ / 4000 and the seller told me years ago it was because of financial problems of Moore Creations, Inc. --- so now, what do you think about the AIX in that auction? real factory proof or just a hoax?
thanks guys,
HardHeroine
What is that factory proof? I think I have a princess ruby that is a factory sample does he perhaps mean that, but that doesnot really make it necessarily anymore special!? Although as a seller I guess you can always try.
Btw I vaguely remember that current high bidder owning the master edition of this statue and selling it on the bay, somewhat weird.
Also one of the ap's sold as preorder with bin of 350 there's another going with starting bid 300 and no bin that should be interesting, no bids yet.
Owh wait just noticed that thirdzone sold about 6 of the ap preorder for 250 each earlier this month.
I always was treated good by thirdzone too bad they dont ship abroad anymore.
Endless Wake
08-19-2006, 09:05 AM
IF the original run was 1400 and we throw in an additional 350 into the mix, thats an extra 25%. You could argue that the average cost will drop by that same amount.
comicbkguy
08-19-2006, 12:17 PM
just didn't want to open a new topic...
eBay auction AIX Factory Proof?? (http://cgi.ebay.com/Moore-Top-Cow-APHRODITE-IX-Factory-Proof-Sexy-Statue_W0QQitemZ160020037513QQihZ006QQcategoryZ80QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
still looking for a 2nd AIX original, but was curious why the seller says it is a factory proof when there is the edition size of 4000 on it...
...I have a Frazetta's princess which is also without a No. ____ / 4000 and the seller told me years ago it was because of financial problems of Moore Creations, Inc. --- so now, what do you think about the AIX in that auction? real factory proof or just a hoax?
thanks guys,
HardHeroine
That looks legitmate to me. Usually counter samples are bottom stamped but not numbered. Doesn't mean it couldn't be a clever forgery, but I doubt it. Looks like the real deal to me.
Also forgot to follow up on my post above. Clay says these were numbered sequentially. No skipping numbers at the factory.
ComputerFly
08-19-2006, 11:30 PM
Thanks for following up cbg.
cblakey1
08-20-2006, 01:42 AM
Usually counter samples are bottom stamped but not numbered.
Hey cbg.. My Virtua Fighter Sarah statue was sold to me from ebaY and the seller said it was a counter sample. I'm pretty sure she doesn't have a stamp or number. Is that normal or is it possible it's a recast? It came in styrofoam and looks pretty decent. Just wondering if in the "old days" these were sometimes not marked at all?
http://members.aol.com/cblakey001/f7_1_b.jpg
Whoever this is:
http://www.impulsecreations.net/catalog/images/2237900194.jpg
She looks absolutely fantastic, and I'd LOVE a CS Moore statue of her in that pose.
JS
comicbkguy
08-23-2006, 12:33 PM
Hey cbg.. My Virtua Fighter Sarah statue was sold to me from ebaY and the seller said it was a counter sample. I'm pretty sure she doesn't have a stamp or number. Is that normal or is it possible it's a recast? It came in styrofoam and looks pretty decent. Just wondering if in the "old days" these were sometimes not marked at all?
http://members.aol.com/cblakey001/f7_1_b.jpg
That one is before my time. It is possible that if it has nothing stamped on the bottom it was a counter sample from early in the process. Sometimes the first ones we would get would have nothing on the bottom. If the styrofoam it came in is form fitted to the statue then it is probably real. But I am just making an educated guess.
Whoever this is:
http://www.impulsecreations.net/catalog/images/2237900194.jpg
She looks absolutely fantastic, and I'd LOVE a CS Moore statue of her in that pose.
JS
Sorry JS..all I see is some banner ad.
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