Frankie Raye NOVA arrives

[Krypton Knight]

Lookin' good! This should really look great in chrome when it comes out.

One strange thing though, and not about the bust, but when I opened mine up there was no QC label and no tape around the styrofoam container. It looks as thought there had been tape on the seal at one time then removed.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b347/cnordeen/Statues/DSC03808.jpg http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b347/cnordeen/Statues/DSC03809.jpg http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b347/cnordeen/Statues/DSC03810.jpg

[Krypton Knight]

More pics.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b347/cnordeen/Statues/DSC03811.jpg http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b347/cnordeen/Statues/DSC03817.jpg http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b347/cnordeen/Statues/DSC03816.jpg

[marvelboi77]

Wow the color sucks.... Great sculpt

[Mastermold]

Looks really good -- I'm only getting the painted version to match my painted SS MB.

[Mastermold]

Wow the color sucks.... Great sculpt

Here come all the postings of pics from the comics again! :laugh:

[marvelboi77]

Here come all the postings of pics from the comics again! :laugh:
I don't know it's probably the best design, and one of the better looking busts. This flat color just does not wow or stand out. How did it go from Gold to Gray.

[DDura711]

WOW! Nice cans. Love that piece.

[nolilia]

The color looks good. Cant wait to get mine.

[hawkeyethearcher]

my hawkeye came without tape around the edges of the foam. maybe something new or oversite.

[nolilia]

I don't know it's probably the best design, and one of the better looking busts. This flat color just does not wow or stand out. How did it go from Gold to Gray.

Well its that thing that you have to differentiate the gold chrome and painted.

[Bullseye]

Looks very good.

[nolilia]

my hawkeye came without tape around the edges of the foam. maybe something new or oversite.

Mine has nothing too b/c it was signed. :p

[Endless Wake]

Nice. KK how would you describe the color? More silverish or yellowish?

[cblakey1]

Looks sweet. Gonna be cool to have this and the gold chrome displayed.

[galactus]

Wow the color sucks.... Great sculpt

Wow, I have to agree that the final color is a little disappointing. I realize that the type of gold that was used for the prototype may have been too difficult for the factory to reproduce, but there must have been something a little closer to gold/yellow that could have been used. This looks more like tarnished Silver. I hope Danno, Car50n, Booney and the other resident painters have lots of gold on hand, they're going to be busy.

[Krypton Knight]

Nice. KK how would you describe the color? More silverish or yellowish?
Best I can go with is silvery gold, with some gold paint wash between the fingers for accentuation.

[Lipfire]

I like it... can't wait!

[Tony Coca]

Wow the color sucks.... Great sculpt
Maybe its just the pic that throws off the color.Wait till you see it in hand to judge it.

[Endless Wake]

Best I can go with is silvery gold, with some gold paint wash between the fingers for accentuation.
Thanks, looks nice, makes the flame hair stand out more.

[DDura711]

It's another piece that should have ONLY been made in Chrome. Just like Ultron.

[Jesse321]

Love the sculpt ... UNBELIEVEABLY DISPISE the color! http://www.birdsofpreyonline.com/forum/images/smilies/angryfire.gif

I'm REALLY glad that I already have a painter set up correct this, but I'm REALLY PISSED that I have to have a painter set up to correct this!! http://www.birdsofpreyonline.com/forum/images/smilies/angryfire.gif

[Alex655321]

With all the details on this piece, you think they would have wrote 10 - 2500 more legible :laugh:

looks great though. Now I can't wait to get my chrome one :buttrock:

[Krypton Knight]

In comparison to the picture on the Bowen site, mine does have more gold wash highlights. It may not show up very well in my pictures, but it's there. The Bowen picture does look more silver and it's reversed.

http://www.bowendesigns.com/images/sculptures/Frankie%20Raye.jpghttp://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b347/cnordeen/Statues/DSC03809.jpg

[armitage]

How happy I am to be getting a chrome one. It will be my first chrome anything I think.
I like the sculpt but the color on this is weak.

[Jesse321]

In comparison to the picture on the Bowen site, mine does have more gold wash highlights. It may not show up very well in my pictures, but it's there. The Bowen picture does look more silver and it's reversed.Not anywhere near enough! :banghead:

[risingstar]

The colors do leave something to be desired... I would have liked to have been able to buy just the chrome bust though... I'm kinda stuck with this silver version. I mean, I won't be displaying both.

[nolilia]

Maybe I'll brine mine to Hollywood Tan.

[syzygy]

i don't mind the color at all, i think this is a great lookin' bust. :buttrock:

[Mastermold]

In comparison to the picture on the Bowen site, mine does have more gold wash highlights. It may not show up very well in my pictures, but it's there. The Bowen picture does look more silver and it's reversed.

http://www.bowendesigns.com/images/sculptures/Frankie%20Raye.jpghttp://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b347/cnordeen/Statues/DSC03809.jpg


Interesting that the official picture is reversed. Looks like a mirror image. Wonder if that was intentional?

[Jameshowlett]

Wow the color sucks.... Great sculpt
sums it up for me. Great sculpt. But a poorly made decision or error on BDs part.Did it ever comeout why the color had changed? It looked soo good when firts previewed.

[Jesse321]

sums it up for me. Great sculpt. But a poorly made decision or error on BDs part.Did it ever comeout why the color had changed? It looked soo good when firts previewed.We were "told" that it was a correction, so that the color would be more faithful to the image of the character.

But very frankly, I just think that the factory couldn't reproduce the gold candy coating Danno used on the original paint master en masse.

[Tattoo-X]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Krypton Knight
In comparison to the picture on the Bowen site, mine does have more gold wash highlights. It may not show up very well in my pictures, but it's there. The Bowen picture does look more silver and it's reversed.

Not anywhere near enough! :banghead:

It's the way it's suppose to look.
















:laugh: Couldn't resist.;)

[Jameshowlett]

Love the sculpt ... UNBELIEVEABLY DISPISE the color! http://www.birdsofpreyonline.com/forum/images/smilies/angryfire.gif

I'm REALLY glad that I already have a painter set up correct this, but I'm REALLY PISSED that I have to have a painter set up to correct this!! http://www.birdsofpreyonline.com/forum/images/smilies/angryfire.gif
And your feelings are valid. Most people would be pissed off if they pre-ordered something and then get a different paint-up the what was previewed. And how ugly is that color compared to the preview. I'm just really peeved about this one.

[Jesse321]

It's the way it's suppose to look.

:laugh: Couldn't resist.;)Not according to John Byrne it's not. :stick:

Don't get me started .. or I'll suggest another cube base on something! :laugh:

[Jameshowlett]

We were "told" that it was a correction, so that the color would be more faithful to the image of the character.

But very frankly, I just think that the factory couldn't reproduce the gold candy coating Danno used on the original paint master en masse.
I think the latter is more likely, that or just an error in the paint apps. I'm just glad I got 1 Chrome, even though I ordered 3 15 minutes after it was posted.

[boondocksaint]

I think the latter is more likely, that or just an error in the paint apps. I'm just glad I got 1 Chrome, even though I ordered 3 15 minutes after it was posted.


you wanted 3? :rolleyes2 :eplus2:

[Tattoo-X]

Not according to John Byrne it's not. :stick:

Don't get me started .. or I'll suggest another cube base on something! :laugh:
LOL. Bases don't mean much to me, but I really like the CBS.

[Jesse321]

I'm having the paint on mine corrected, and I'll display it in my office.

The 2nd one I'm having converted into a Frankie Raye Human Torch to put with my FF MB's.

I'll display the chrome version with my Heralds.

[phnx75]

Not according to John Byrne it's not. :stick:

Don't get me started .. or I'll suggest another cube base on something! :laugh:

:laugh: I'll wait to see how it is in person although I really loved the original gold color.

[Tattoo-X]

We were "told" that it was a correction, so that the color would be more faithful to the image of the character.

But very frankly, I just think that the factory couldn't reproduce the gold candy coating Danno used on the original paint master en masse.
Yeah, that's probably what happened with She-Hulk.

[phnx75]

I'm having the paint on mine corrected, and I'll display it in my office.

The 2nd one I'm converted into a Frankie Raye Human Torch to put with my FF MB's.

I'll display the chrome version with my Heralds.

Jesse, how many busts have you had customized?

[boondocksaint]

We were "told" that it was a correction, so that the color would be more faithful to the image of the character.

But very frankly, I just think that the factory couldn't reproduce the gold candy coating Danno used on the original paint master en masse.


thats the problem having the prototypes painted by such talented guys.
rarely will the factory be able to match their paint ups...

[Jameshowlett]

you wanted 3? :rolleyes2 :eplus2:
Yeah. 2 for ebay and 1 for me! :laugh:

[Jesse321]

Jesse, how many busts have you had customized?None .. all my pieces are private sculpts.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Jesse321/P8070004.jpg

[Tattoo-X]

Dang you. :p
I really thought my wife worked out a deal to get me that X-23 for our Anniversary.
Which I guess I better take that new computer out of the box tonight. :buttrock:

[patrickwm68]

I bet someone will take this lovely little lady into the john and do a little "Grandma's Boy" to her.

[phnx75]

None .. all my pieces are private sculpts.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Jesse321/P8070004.jpg

Sweet. I want one of each. God know's if we'll ever see a Talisman or Magik bust. I gotta start looking into private sculpts.

[ant-man]

hats the run on the painted Frankie Ray

[Ink]

2500

tracking number on mine says the 29th for me

[marvelboi77]

I got my tracking today too, my two will be here on Friday.

[ant-man]

i think it looks good....look forward to the Chrome...

i think i might still have one with Drod...if not i think ill get it as well.... :)

[The Fog]

Lame character, great sculpt, coloring looks great, chrome will be just a plus.
Hey Jesse, is that a Private Comission "CHER" minibust or what? on the right.
I just hear the words, Gypsy's, Tramps and Thieves, when I saw that.
The other's look great.

[Jesse321]

Lame character, great sculpt, coloring looks great, chrome will be just a plus.
Hey Jesse, is that a Private Comission "CHER" minibust or what? on the right.
I just hear the words, Gypsy's, Tramps and Thieves, when I saw that.
The other's look great.That's Talisman from Alpha Flight, and the look of the character is pretty damn dead on IMO.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Jesse321/Talismanreferenceface.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Jesse321/talisman.jpg

[The Fog]

I know who it is, where's Sonny?
Should have let RB do it!

[Jesse321]

I know who it is, where's Sonny?
Should have let RB do it!1) I doubt that it's a character that Randy would do .. she's too obscure.

2) Randy's complimented the piece and even showed an interest in picking it up, but the character wasn't on the list.

3) While I don't mean this to be an insult to Randy in any way, I don't think that he could have done a better job.

Basically, you don't have to be happy with it, I do .. and I am .. VERY.

[The Fog]

I glad your happy with it, but you always dissect (tear apart) other pieces that are far and above that, but YOUR happy with THAT?
Just wondering? and puzzled?
The Puck looks fantastic, as does Magic and X-23, it just seems that one is a slip.

[Jesse321]

"Far and above" maybe in your opinion, (which you're absolutely entitled to) but not in mine.

This piece accurately (and artistically) represents the character as I remember her from the books, and that's basically the guideline that I use when I "dissect/tear apart" any piece.

You're free to agree or disagree with me all you like, but ultimately your opinion only effect your choices, just like mine only effects mine.

[marvelboi77]

I was looking at the Talisman, and I was thinking Angelica Houston. But looking at it now it does kind of look like Cher because of the cheeks.

[Jesse321]

I was looking at the Talisman, and I was thinking Angelica Houston. But looking at it now it does kind of look like Cher because of the cheeks.Either way I take that as a compliment. Cause Cher is one of my favorite artists ... I mean lets face it, any woman that can still be considered a sex symbol after 5 decades (both as an actress and a musical proformer) ... that's quite an accomplishment. :laugh:

[The Fog]

There you have it, marvelboi77 agrees.
By the way Marvel Girl and the Beast mini's were outstanding, really nice pieces.

[phnx75]

Either way I take that as a compliment. Cause Cher is one of my favorite artists ... I mean lets face it, any woman that can still be considered a sex symbol after 5 decades (both as an actress and a musical proformer) ... that's quite an accomplishment. :laugh:

True, True. :laugh: Well I still like the Talisman. :thumbs2: Maybe one day we'll get lucky and have one produced (and I know that's a big maybe).

[marvelboi77]

There you have it, marvelboi77 agrees.
By the way Marvel Girl and the Beast mini's were outstanding, really nice pieces.
Well in a way I do, I think the bust looks great, but it does resemble Cher. Looking at the pictures of Talisman that Jesse posted the bust is pretty dead on.

[Stef Jelos]

Nice rack.

[rilynil]

I glad your happy with it, but you always dissect (tear apart) other pieces that are far and above that, but YOUR happy with THAT?
Just wondering? and puzzled?
The Puck looks fantastic, as does Magic and X-23, it just seems that one is a slip.


Glad to say that I've got an X-23 coming to me, too :buttrock: It's completely awesome.

I like the Puck and Magik a lot, too. Great poses! But Talisman ... eh. The paint job is not as good as the other three, IMO. But still a great lineup!

[pmpknface]

Looks pretty good...

[fossa]

Mine has nothing too b/c it was signed. :pwho signed it? not RB.

[bat_collector]

glad I didn't get this, the chrome should rock though

[Deadpool]

who signed it? not RB.

I think he was talking about the HE FS Foss!

[fossa]

I think he was talking about the HE FS Foss!got it. yup. now i see, thanX! thought this was a Frankie Raye thread & did not read close enough...

[OneOne78]

Thanks for the great pics KK

[P1X4R]

One strange thing though, and not about the bust, but when I opened mine up there was no QC label and no tape around the styrofoam container. It looks as thought there had been tape on the seal at one time then removed.


mine was the same also. no QC tape. #42. i've seen this before though.

[heykool69]

mine was the same also. no QC tape. #42. i've seen this before though.

Maybe Bowen did some alteration to it, or opened up everyone one of them and made it different than the original. That's why we have a chrome variant. Few of you who received their stating that there is gold color between the fingers... and those are tight spots to get it out of. That's my opinion.

[1logan]

With that flame hair, I still can't understand Randy making Super skrull's flaming hand solid, especially with the invisible powers available too!

[ABDGUY]

my hawkeye came without tape around the edges of the foam. maybe something new or oversite.


Mine came that way as well but I figured it was because I had it signed...

[fenix v.2.0]

#44/2500
Some pic...

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a378/sfbatman1999/AZOG/nova2.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a378/sfbatman1999/AZOG/NOVA.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a378/sfbatman1999/AZOG/NOVA3.jpg

[patrickwm68]

Fenix, these pics look great. Can't wait to pick mine up this weekend.

[P1X4R]

great pics Jorge!

[rilynil]

Wow, the pics look great! Can't wait for the chrome to arrive

[Darth_Ryan]

oh man that x-23 bust is gorgeous!!!!

[Eye of Agamotto]

Looks like thye fudged the numbering on KK's. Seems however was doing that thought the run was 500 and squished in a 2 when it was corrected.

[DBHughes]

WOW! Nice cans. Love that piece.

And that's why Johnny was so upset when Galactus took her away. :laugh:

[marvelboi77]

I got mine today #21, and #168 or somwhere in the 160's.... I love this bust the hair and planet are awsome.

[BillyPilgrim]

Glad I passed on this one - I really like the Magik bust in Jesse's collection though. I do have to agree with MAKO, the Talisman looks like Cher which is OK if that's you cup of tea.

[Rome]

Love the sculpt ... UNBELIEVEABLY DISPISE the color! http://www.birdsofpreyonline.com/forum/images/smilies/angryfire.gif

I'm REALLY glad that I already have a painter set up correct this, but I'm REALLY PISSED that I have to have a painter set up to correct this!! http://www.birdsofpreyonline.com/forum/images/smilies/angryfire.gif

Got mine today and Jesse I must say I see your point. This is very different from the original pics shown. Someone expecting THAT will be very dissapointed. the problem I have with it is that it doesn't reflect the character. IMO it would have been better to paint it a gold paint (even if it's not chrome), so that it at least tries to resemble the character. this has more of a dull silver look to it, and clearly Nova isn't supposed to look like that. I would have preferred the paint color on the OTHER Nova's body armor to this.
oh well. it is a well sculpted piece so it's not a totall loss.

[DRL]

saw this at the LCS today and the sculpt is great! was there ever an explanation for the different color paints between her fingers?

[Mastermold]

#44/2500
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a378/sfbatman1999/AZOG/nova2.jpg


Well, if it looks this good I don't see why there's all the complaining about the paint. Looks like the comic to me. I'll let you guys know when I get mine but from the pics I've seen I think it looks fine -- the original gold pics did look better IMO but I'm not going to balk if these pics are representative of the final color.

[Jesse321]

oh well. it is a well sculpted piece so it's not a totall loss.That much I can agree with .. the point of the matter is that I will have mine fixed, but the fact that I have to have it fixed is what's irritating.

[Hypersom]

Dude, you don't "have" to do anything, so quit your whiny ass b!tchin'.

[Mastermold]

Is it just me or can you see nipples if you stare long enough at her? :laugh:

[chromesamurai]

I think Mastermold just sees nipples if he stares long enough at anything... :laugh:

[chromesamurai]

Thankfully, our Frankies are coming in Tuesday, along with Shocker and the long-awaited Hawkeye FS.

[The Watcher]

I love the design of this sculpt.

[The Fog]

I didn't see a thread for the SHOCKER minibust, I got mine last week, still waiting on the FNMB.

[chromesamurai]

Yeah, this is one of my favorites design-wise of this entire phase. And the fact that the sculpt is great helps even more.

[Jesse321]

Dude, you don't "have" to do anything, so quit your whiny ass b!tchin'.Dude, this piece is the wrong color Nova is supposed to be gold .. the way she was originally painted .. so yes, I do "HAVE" to have to do something.

And by the way .. BITE ME! http://forum.dgs-online.nl/icon_smile_finger.gif

[Deadpool]

Dude, this piece is the wrong color Nova is supposed to be gold .. the way she was originally painted .. so yes, I do "HAVE" to have to do something.

And by the way .. BITE ME! http://forum.dgs-online.nl/icon_smile_finger.gif


:laugh: :laugh:

[Hypersom]

Dude, this piece is the wrong color Nova is supposed to be gold .. the way she was originally painted .. so yes, I do "HAVE" to have to do something.

And by the way .. BITE ME! http://forum.dgs-online.nl/icon_smile_finger.gif

No you don't. You can have "anything" commissioned, remember? Its a point you love to tell us over and over, so you can have things done the "right" way (read: your way).

You had opportunity to cancel your order when the color change was announced at which point you could go off and have your own made. I think you just love to b!tch and moan because it somehow makes you feel better, and it draws attention to you. You call it "giving your opinion", when actually its an excuse to belittle, denegrate and "play god" at the expense of talented people. A severe case of bust envy, I'd say.

And please don't spew your crap about "helping others improve". I don't care who you know or if you've even sculpted anything before, but your comments never come off as designed to help, only as bitter negativity, and quite tiresome at that.

If you were only "giving your opinion" at any given time, you wouldn't spend so much time explaining to others why their opinions and likes and dislikes are wrong. I take your opinion about as seriously as those foppish hats you don in your avatars.

Figure it out Jester321, you don't speak for every one on this board (nor do I), its not cool to constantly denegrate artists work, and shame on you for resorting to the middle finger with your first response to me. Kinda makes my point though. :thumbs2:

[Collection King 13]

The paint application on Frakie Ray is way off... I saw it at Drew's shop yesterday and the bust is silver with some gold highlights... horrible paint application... the bust shouldve just been painted solid gold like the paint on the 1st Nova bust...

[marvelboi77]

Well this thread is going to self distruct in about 10 more posts...heehee

[Jesse321]

No you don't. You can have "anything" commissioned, remember? Its a point you love to tell us over and over, so you can have things done the "right" way (read: your way). You're right .. and if I'm investing MY money then your damn right it's going to be done MY WAY, that's what private comissions are all about. but then again I guess I don't know much about what I'm doing when you consider that I'm still getting people asking me about every piece that I've been involved with .. but again hey what do I know right?

You had opportunity to cancel your order when the color change was announced at which point you could go off and have your own made.Why would I cancel my order? There's nothing wrong with the sculpt .. and I defy you find any post of mine where I say that. The only thing wrong with this piece specifically is the color, and that's all I've ever said!

I think you just love to b!tch and moan because it somehow makes you feel better, and it draws attention to you. You call it "giving your opinion", when actually its an excuse to belittle, denegrate and "play god" at the expense of talented people. A severe case of bust envy, I'd say.

And please don't spew your crap about "helping others improve". I don't care who you know or if you've even sculpted anything before, but your comments never come off as designed to help, only as bitter negativity, and quite tiresome at that.It seems to me that you're the one suffering from "opinon envy" as you don't seem to have one of your own ... at the very least, I can and do back up everything and anything I say.

It's also funny to me how people seem to point out the "bad things" I say, but never bother to acknowledge when I say "great things" about pieces and or artists.

As to my "attacks" on artist in the hopes of "belittling, denegrating, and playing God at the expense of talented people" .. you know very little about me, or the conversations I've had with the incredibly talented sculpters and painters on this and several other forums ... but I guess it's just easier to assume, judge and convict. FYI ... I'm not some witless hack that sits behind the safety of a keyboard afraid to face anyone, I've met, associated, spoken and even dined with many of these people FACE TO FACE!

But if my opinions, or my posts irritate you so much .. by all means .. feel free to put me on ignore ... you probably wouldn't be the first, and I'm sure that you very likely won't be the last.

If you were only "giving your opinion" at any given time, you wouldn't spend so much time explaining to others why their opinions and likes and dislikes are wrong. I take your opinion about as seriously as those foppish hats you don in your avatars.You actually think that's me? :rolleyes: oh brother :laugh:

Figure it out Jester321, you don't speak for every one on this board (nor do I), its not cool to constantly denegrate artists work, and shame on you for resorting to the middle finger with your first response to me. Kinda makes my point though. :thumbs2:Since your SO adept and know my postings SO well ... please point out where I have ever claimed to have spoken for anyone on these boards ... I would really like to see that.

[Tony Coca]

You're right .. and if I'm investing MY money then your damn right it's going to be done MY WAY, that's what private comissions are all about. but then again I guess I don't know much about what I'm doing when you consider that I'm still getting people asking me about every piece that I've been involved with .. but again hey what do I know right?

Why would I cancel my order? There's nothing wrong with the sculpt .. and I defy you find any post of mine where I say that. the only thing wrong with this piece specifically is the color, and that's all I've ever said!

It seems to me that you're the one suffering from "opinon envy" as you don't seem to have one of your own ... at the very least, I can and do back up everything and anything I say.

It's also funny to me how people seem to point out the "bad things" I say, but never bother to acknowledge when I say "great things" about pieces and or artists.

As to my "attacks" on artist in the hopes of "belittling, denegrating, and playing God at the expense of talented people" .. you know very little about me, or the conversations I've had with the incredibly talented sculpters and painters on this and several other forums ... but I guess it's just easier to assume, judge and convict. FYI ... I'm not some witless hack that sits behind the safety of a keyboard afraid to face anyone, I've met, associated spoken and even dined with many of these people FACE TO FACE!

But if my opinions, or my posts irritate you so much .. by all means .. feel free to put me on ignore ... you probably wouldn't be the first, and I'm sure that you very likely won't be the last.

You actually think that's me? :rolleyes: oh brother :laugh:

Since your SO adept and know my postings SO well ... please point out where I have ever claimed to have spoken for anyone on these boards ... I would really like to see that.


Wow.I see you got your 2 cents in. :laugh:

[Jesse321]

Well this thread is going to self distruct in about 10 more posts...heeheeI'm bettin 5 or less :laugh:
Wow.I see you got your 2 cents in. :laugh:Come on TC .. that one was worth at least a buck. :laugh:

[Tony Coca]

I'm bettin 5 or less :laugh:
Come on TC .. that one was worth at least a buck. :laugh:


Well your the Pimp.Whatever rate you charge. :laugh:

[C. Bormann]

Well, Tuesday is my delivery date so I won't know until then. But I was blown away when I saw the first paint job. I can't say that was the case when I saw the second paint job.

At this point, I can see myself trying a repaint down the line.

The chrome version seems to exceed my expectations.

(And in Jesse's defense: He did compliment my custom painted ROCKETEER. So, not everything he says is negative.)

[Dark Knight]

No you don't. You can have "anything" commissioned, remember? Its a point you love to tell us over and over, so you can have things done the "right" way (read: your way).

You had opportunity to cancel your order when the color change was announced at which point you could go off and have your own made. I think you just love to b!tch and moan because it somehow makes you feel better, and it draws attention to you. You call it "giving your opinion", when actually its an excuse to belittle, denegrate and "play god" at the expense of talented people. A severe case of bust envy, I'd say.

And please don't spew your crap about "helping others improve". I don't care who you know or if you've even sculpted anything before, but your comments never come off as designed to help, only as bitter negativity, and quite tiresome at that.

If you were only "giving your opinion" at any given time, you wouldn't spend so much time explaining to others why their opinions and likes and dislikes are wrong. I take your opinion about as seriously as those foppish hats you don in your avatars.

Figure it out Jester321, you don't speak for every one on this board (nor do I), its not cool to constantly denegrate artists work, and shame on you for resorting to the middle finger with your first response to me. Kinda makes my point though. :thumbs2:

It's funny that you took the time to post about Jesse complaining but didn't mention the other people who agreed with him in this thread about the paint being wrong. Seems more like a personal attack on Jesse than anything else. Considering you're relatively new here, why the animosity? Are you someone who has been here before under another name and had problems with him at that time? Or do you want to try and make a name for yourself by jumping on Jesse's back?

Since you're new, you may not realize that Jesse has personal relationships with the sculptors and painters that you think he is "denegrating" and they actually APPRECIATE that he doesn't BS them and tells them the truth. See, one of the reasons for this forum is for people like Randy to get our opinions on the pieces so they make them better and in turn sell them to us, the consumer. So, if we are not happy about something, we need to make it known so that hopefully, it won't occur again in the future. Because in the end, it is our money that pays for these pieces and our love for these characters that sells them out when they are produced.

Jesse's passion for this piece is because this was his Grail. He begged for years for Frankie to be done and was told it wouldn't happen. So, he commissioned one, got it painted and everything, and then Randy saw it, liked it and asked to produce it. Jesse agreed and so here we are with his dream piece and it doesn't look right to him. So, yes, he is entitled to vent his frustrations a bit. Perhaps, since you are new, you didn't know all that history.

He didn't cancel the order because it is much easier to repaint the sculpt that HE originally had done than make a whole new bust. Yes, he does say that he can have "anything" commissioned and he also says that any of us can have anything commissioned as well. Most people just don't want to go through the trouble.

Severe case of bust envy? You obviously haven't seen the pics of his collection. He envies no one. Take my post for what it's worth to you, but the only time Jesse attracts attention to himself is when people like you write page long posts attacking him. My 2 cents are in the pot.

[kaza5555]

It's funny that you took the time to post about Jesse complaining but didn't mention the other people who agreed with him in this thread about the paint being wrong. Seems more like a personal attack on Jesse than anything else. Considering you're relatively new here, why the animosity? Are you someone who has been here before under another name and had problems with him at that time? Or do you want to try and make a name for yourself by jumping on Jesse's back? Since you're new, you may not realize that Jesse has personal relationships with the sculptors and painters that you think he is "denegrating" and they actually APPRECIATE that he doesn't BS them and tells them the truth. See, one of the reasons for this forum is for people like Randy to get our opinions on the pieces so they make them better and in turn sell them to us, the consumer. So, if we are not happy about something, we need to make it known so that hopefully, it won't occur again in the future. Because in the end, it is our money that pays for these pieces and our love for these characters that sells them out when they are produced. Jesse's passion for this piece is because this was his Grail. He begged for years for Frankie to be done and was told it wouldn't happen. So, he commissioned one, got it painted and everything, and then Randy saw it, liked it and asked to produce it. Jesse agreed and so here we are with his dream piece and it doesn't look right to him. So, yes, he is entitled to vent his frustrations a bit. Perhaps, since you are new, you didn't know all that history. He didn't cancel the order because it is much easier to repaint the sculpt that HE originally had done than make a whole new bust. Yes, he does say that he can have "anything" commissioned and he also says that any of us can have anything commissioned as well. Most people just don't want to go through the trouble. Severe case of bust envy? You obviously haven't seen the pics of his collection. He envies no one. Take my post for what it's worth to you, but the only time Jesse attracts attention to himself is when people like you write page long posts attacking him. My 2 cents are in the pot.
I wouldn't be too hard on Hypersom. I'm sure he's a good guy. I'm sure Jesse's a good guy too. But H did get the middle finger and he had to say something to defend himself. If I got the middle finger, I'd bark back too. :)

[Dark Knight]

I wouldn't be too hard on Hypersom. I'm sure he's a good guy. I'm sure Jesse's a good guy too. But H did get the middle finger and he had to say something to defend himself. If I got the middle finger, I'd bark back too. :)

If I got the middle finger for no reason, I agree about barking back. However, the reason he got the middle finger in the 1st place was...

Dude, you don't "have" to do anything, so quit your whiny ass b!tchin'.

I'm not saying he was right or wrong in giving him the fingers, just saying it wasn't out of the blue for no reason.

[kaza5555]

If I got the middle finger for no reason, I agree about barking back. However, the reason he got the middle finger in the 1st place was...



I'm not saying he was right or wrong in giving him the fingers, just saying it wasn't out of the blue for no reason.
Point taken! Can't argue that. Just wished it was handled more in a professional manner. Sometimes emotions just gets the best of us.

[Scottsdale Saint]

It's funny that you took the time to post about Jesse complaining but didn't mention the other people who agreed with him in this thread about the paint being wrong. Seems more like a personal attack on Jesse than anything else. Considering you're relatively new here, why the animosity? Are you someone who has been here before under another name and had problems with him at that time? Or do you want to try and make a name for yourself by jumping on Jesse's back? Since you're new, you may not realize that Jesse has personal relationships with the sculptors and painters that you think he is "denegrating" and they actually APPRECIATE that he doesn't BS them and tells them the truth. See, one of the reasons for this forum is for people like Randy to get our opinions on the pieces so they make them better and in turn sell them to us, the consumer. So, if we are not happy about something, we need to make it known so that hopefully, it won't occur again in the future. Because in the end, it is our money that pays for these pieces and our love for these characters that sells them out when they are produced. Jesse's passion for this piece is because this was his Grail. He begged for years for Frankie to be done and was told it wouldn't happen. So, he commissioned one, got it painted and everything, and then Randy saw it, liked it and asked to produce it. Jesse agreed and so here we are with his dream piece and it doesn't look right to him. So, yes, he is entitled to vent his frustrations a bit. Perhaps, since you are new, you didn't know all that history. He didn't cancel the order because it is much easier to repaint the sculpt that HE originally had done than make a whole new bust. Yes, he does say that he can have "anything" commissioned and he also says that any of us can have anything commissioned as well. Most people just don't want to go through the trouble. Severe case of bust envy? You obviously haven't seen the pics of his collection. He envies no one. Take my post for what it's worth to you, but the only time Jesse attracts attention to himself is when people like you write page long posts attacking him. My 2 cents are in the pot.hitting the [enter] key would be helpful while composing your answers. breaking these long posts into paragraphs would help other people to read them...just a thought. :)

[Dark Knight]

hitting the [enter] key would be helpful while composing your answers. breaking these long posts into paragraphs would help other people to read them...just a thought. :)

point taken, at the time i wrote it, i was a little mad and didn't realize how long it was until i saw it posted. It's fixed now.

[Jesse321]

So, he commissioned one, got it painted and everything, and then Randy saw it, liked it and asked to produce it. Jesse agreed and so here we are with his dream piece and it doesn't look right to him. So, yes, he is entitled to vent his frustrations a bit. Perhaps, since you are new, you didn't know all that history. Let me correct something here .. the piece that I commissioned is the FS Nova .. but they're both based on esscencially the same piece of artwork.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Jesse321/Nova3.jpg

In either event, the color of the piece still remains wrong ... and to further clarify, I would have the same reaction if Thor's cape was the wrong shade of red, or Gambit's trenchcoat was a sandy brown instead of a chocolate brown .. a wrong color is a wrong color. What I'm most ticked about is the fact that the color was right to begin with!

[Jesse321]

I wouldn't be too hard on Hypersom. I'm sure he's a good guy. I'm sure Jesse's a good guy too. But H did get the middle finger and he had to say something to defend himself. If I got the middle finger, I'd bark back too. :)The reason that he got the bird from be was because as Dark knight stated .. this guy's got 14 posts under his belt and desided to make his 15 and 16th an attack on me. From his rebuttle, I'm sure that he's been lurking for quite some time (which I have no issues with) but he's being selective about which posts he chooses to comment on, rather than all of my posts as a whole. But I still find it funny that he chooses to make those posts a personal attack on me, about what he perceives to be my personal attacks on the artists on the forum ... a little hypocritical don't you think? :rolleyes:

If he honestly believes (as he implies) that all my posts are negative then how do you explain my comments about your drawings? Or all the comments I've made in both the sculpters and painters section? Not to mention my review of the Tigra MB?

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm getting REALLY sick and tired of the attitude towards any sort of negative opinons/comments on the forum, and more importantly the personal attacks on those that choose to express those opinons/comments fairly!!

[phnx75]

Well this has been an interesting thread.

Gotta side with Jesse on this one. If you launch a personal attack on me like that, you better expect me to come back with my guns blazing. Its easier to pay attention to negative and ignore the positive, but its always there in his posts. That is what a critique is. Its a discussion of the pros and cons. He's said from the beginning that he likes the sculpt and not the color and hasn't waivered from that opinion. Whether you like Jesse's opinions or not this is supposed to be a civil forum meant for open discussions of our opinions and making personal attacks like that is uncalled for. Just my $1.50 and personally Jesse I think you put in at least $5.00. :laugh:

I think its about time to wrap this puppy up.

[CKinSD]

locked because I can. as a precaution on this one.