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Collection King 13
06-14-2007, 09:44 PM
ARE YOU F'ING KIDDING ME!!!! 1500!!! THATS NOT STRICTLY LIMITED!!! :banghead:
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?item=7164&affiliate=CD1112

DetroitSportsFan
06-14-2007, 09:46 PM
And I was thinking 1000.

Yeah, "strictly limited". :rolleyes:

MONSTER
06-14-2007, 09:47 PM
That is ridiculous!!!

Avenger
06-14-2007, 09:48 PM
Hear the sounds of cancellations now. :thumbsdow

Bowen-Maniac
06-14-2007, 09:48 PM
I was hoping for 700 max, I agree CK13 that is not limited. Who will cancel their orders now?

Collection King 13
06-14-2007, 09:48 PM
They are just as bad as Gentle Giant for that one! :banghead:

Gianco
06-14-2007, 09:48 PM
:laugh: :laugh: Get ready for 1.000 cancellations!

MONSTER
06-14-2007, 09:48 PM
I'm definitely canceling.

Collection King 13
06-14-2007, 09:49 PM
I'm definitely canceling.

me too! :banghead:

Gianco
06-14-2007, 09:49 PM
Hey Cap, 300........................... x 5 !!!

Collection King 13
06-14-2007, 09:49 PM
I'll probably try to snag one off of the bay... :banghead:

DetroitSportsFan
06-14-2007, 09:50 PM
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6014/fcjg3000098ie7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

MONSTER
06-14-2007, 09:50 PM
I'll probably try to snag one off of the bay... :banghead:

Me too. There is no way these will sell anywhere close to $800.00 on ebay.

SolidLiquidFox
06-14-2007, 09:51 PM
Retailers everywhere get an email tomorrow from Sideshow

"There has been a typo...we meant limit of 100 not 1..."

Collection King 13
06-14-2007, 09:53 PM
Retailers everywhere get an email tomorrow from Sideshow

"There has been a typo...we meant limit of 100 not 1..."

:laugh:

ppfonda
06-14-2007, 09:54 PM
feel bad for those people on flexpay who have to pay a cancellation fee...

Collection King 13
06-14-2007, 09:54 PM
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u57/mandyrogas75/33.jpg

cap70
06-14-2007, 09:56 PM
Hey Cap, 300........................... x 5 !!!

CANCELED!

ppfonda
06-14-2007, 09:57 PM
the definition of "limited" and "extremely limited" has definitely been stretched a bit farther with this one...it's too bad but they should know better

316what
06-14-2007, 09:58 PM
CANCELED!

Ditto...If I decide I really want it I'll pick it up on the rebound cheaper.

Gianco
06-14-2007, 09:59 PM
CANCELED!

:laugh: why?.............................j/k :wink2:

Gruson
06-14-2007, 10:01 PM
I still want it but will pick it up from a dealer or Ebay.

No way I am paying full for it at 1500!

DetroitSportsFan
06-14-2007, 10:02 PM
I canceled as well.

I may get this down the line for cheaper, or I may pass on it completely.

cap70
06-14-2007, 10:03 PM
:laugh:

Yup, RIDICULOUS! SS once again baited us. Way to go SS!:stick: :stick:

darthmatrix
06-14-2007, 10:04 PM
just for comparison the Leia PF Ex was only 1000.....what a let down...just cant justify a direct order from SS now...damn :(

cap70
06-14-2007, 10:05 PM
I canceled as well.

I may get this down the line for cheaper, or I may pass on it completely.

I'm thinking about passing as well, not even cheaper down the road.

P1X4R
06-14-2007, 10:05 PM
I still want it but will pick it up from a dealer or Ebay.

No way I am paying full for it at 1500!

exactly. i'm not paying full retail price for it!

Collection King 13
06-14-2007, 10:06 PM
No Full Price for me either!

Gianco
06-14-2007, 10:06 PM
Yup, RIDICULOUS! SS once again baited us. Way to go SS!:stick: :stick:

I know Cap, LA CAGARON big time!!! Que merda!

MONSTER
06-14-2007, 10:07 PM
Just canceled!

darthmatrix
06-14-2007, 10:09 PM
Well I have the headline for next weeks NL "second chance offer" for the strickly unlimited scout trooper PF :banghead:

SolidLiquidFox
06-14-2007, 10:10 PM
I know Cap, LA CAGARON big time!!! Que merda!

mierda indeed

DXiRoNMaN
06-14-2007, 10:11 PM
man i can't believe it's over 1000. 1500 is less than the combined regular and exclusive editions for the other PFs but waaaaaay too much for the price. in all likelihood i'll end up cancelling anyway, 800 bucks is way too much. i already feel like a sucker for paying full price for the plastic Fett

cap70
06-14-2007, 10:11 PM
I know Cap, LA CAGARON big time!!! Que merda!

Bosta, cagada, sujeira, COCO!

SquiderM3
06-14-2007, 10:11 PM
Ouch, that sucks.:thumbsdow

Still going to keep my order though, SS offers peace of mind that I just can't get from any eBay transaction, especially on damaged pieces.

cap70
06-14-2007, 10:12 PM
I want to see everyone that voted on that Poll canceling their orders. I did my part.

Zoyvod
06-14-2007, 10:14 PM
Lets see if they have the stones to drop that "Wait List".

BigLeagueChu
06-14-2007, 10:16 PM
unbelievable...

cma3
06-14-2007, 10:17 PM
Lets see if they have the stones to drop that "Wait List".

you beat me to it.

SolidLiquidFox
06-14-2007, 10:19 PM
Lets see if they have the stones to drop that "Wait List".

They won't. They'll just keep dropping hints that the wait list conversion chances are "very good".

This will be up on second chance... :redface:

CaptCracker
06-14-2007, 10:20 PM
Cancel...just saved me some money

Tony Coca
06-14-2007, 10:20 PM
:laugh:

The tears of the flipper unable to flip.

SolidLiquidFox
06-14-2007, 10:22 PM
You can almost hear Master Replicas laughing all the way across the seas. Their X-Wing will dominate the Christmas season.

BigLeagueChu
06-14-2007, 10:24 PM
You can almost hear Master Replicas laughing all the way across the seas. Their X-Wing will dominate the Christmas season.

I'm sure alot of companies are laughing.

Wooktroop
06-14-2007, 10:25 PM
lol

darthmatrix
06-14-2007, 10:27 PM
I guess for future notices we know "strickly limited" means 1500 plus....

cap70
06-14-2007, 10:27 PM
They won't. They'll just keep dropping hints that the wait list conversion chances are "very good".

This will be up on second chance... :redface:

Yup, that's exactly how they play their game. They did this with EVERY SW PF piece(minus Han EX) and many other collectibles.
But we know about it already, so they better start thinking about another excuse from now on. This one is getting old already. :thumbsdow
The end is always the same: Overinflated ES numbers and prices bombing on ebay(which is good for the people that waits to buy, but bad for the people that bought it directly).

BigLeagueChu
06-14-2007, 10:29 PM
Because of it's size, I can still see people buying direct from SS for peace of mind in customer service.

Anespian
06-14-2007, 10:35 PM
This piece would go down to be of one of the fastest seeling pieces yet with the most & fastest cancellation

cap70
06-14-2007, 10:45 PM
Because of it's size, I can still see people buying direct from SS for peace of mind in customer service.

Sure, principally customers from other Countrys. In the end, they are affected much more than us here. Way easier for us to grab one down the road and run trough less problems.

Vader
06-14-2007, 11:00 PM
Who can blame them? They sold out immediately. The fact that they could sell out 1500 in a heartbeat explains why the numbers were as high as they are.

Look at the Doom PF. There are 1500 of those, and they go for a good buck. Explain that one? Since when was doom ever a "favorite" character?

You can't blame sideshow for supplying the demand.

bruceb
06-14-2007, 11:00 PM
..never ordered..but would have canceled if did...shame...

PitViper
06-14-2007, 11:02 PM
Wow, 1500 ES is a bit high for an $800 item. :banghead:

bruceb
06-14-2007, 11:03 PM
Who can blame them? They sold out immediately. The fact that they could sell out 1500 in a heartbeat explains why the numbers were as high as they are.

Look at the Doom PF. There are 1500 of those, and they go for a good buck. Explain that one? Since when was doom ever a "favorite" character?

You can't blame sideshow for supplying the demand.

..you defenetly don't understand how things works...is not the demand....it's the false demand created...since many..many always end up canceling...ss knows that..and they still push it...the solution is to cut edition sizes...they sold 1500 cause there was 1500 to be sold....the doom had an awesome exclusive...and sold for 300 in case you don't know...and don't forget...even people that are not doom fans got impressed with the awesome and massive sculpt...doom is also a much better sculpt...and cheaper....this foam biker on a sticky bike can't stand it's own against doom....

Natrix
06-14-2007, 11:05 PM
Who can blame them? They sold out immediately. The fact that they could sell out 1500 in a heartbeat explains why the numbers were as high as they are.

Look at the Doom PF. There are 1500 of those, and they go for a good buck. Explain that one? Since when was doom ever a "favorite" character?

You can't blame sideshow for supplying the demand.

Actually you can blame Sideshow. They advertised it as being a very limited edition size....1,500 is not limited.

bruceb
06-14-2007, 11:07 PM
Actually you can blame Sideshow. They advertised it as being a very limited edition size....1,500 is not limited.

...correct..i forgot about this too...one more mistake sideshow did....

SolidLiquidFox
06-14-2007, 11:16 PM
It was a mixture of hype combined with false advertisement. Shake well on a bottle of speculation and, well....

Vader
06-14-2007, 11:19 PM
..you defenetly don't understand how things works...is not the demand....it's the false demand created...since many..many end up canceling...ss knows that..and they still push it...the solution is to cut edition sizes...doom had an awesome exclusive...and sold for 300 in case you don't know...and don't forget...even people that are not doom fans got impressed with the awesome and massive sculpt...doom is also a much better sculpt...and cheaper....this foam biker on a sticky bike can't stand it's own against doom....

That's your opinion. I think the doom is highly overrated with the cloth cape. Never did it for me. And sideshow will sell at least 300 biker scouts. So the secondary market value might not be great. But Sideshow will make what they would have had the numbers been much smaller. And people who want to get the biker scout at a lower price will. So everybody wins. Except the flippers.

Vader
06-14-2007, 11:21 PM
Actually you can blame Sideshow. They advertised it as being a very limited edition size....1,500 is not limited.

It's more limited than many of the other pieces on the market. In a world market, and given that its a star wars product, the edition size is not that large. You guys are thinking secondary market value. And that really isn't the only consideration. What about the people who want one, can't afford $3000, and weren't as quick at the switch when the piece went up for order? I think they'd be thanking Sideshow, don't you?

kingdomhearts
06-14-2007, 11:26 PM
Told Ya

I was laughing at you guys when you ordered this piece in a rush at 1pm eastern time.

What was the hurry!

Now you see, now you have to cancel :eplus2:

Good thing i didnt waste my time ordering this piece :laugh:

bruceb
06-14-2007, 11:27 PM
That's your opinion. I think the doom is highly overrated with the cloth cape. Never did it for me. And sideshow will sell at least 300 biker scouts. So the secondary market value might not be great. But Sideshow will make what they would have had the numbers been much smaller. And people who want to get the biker scout at a lower price will. So everybody wins. Except the flippers.

..of course is my opinion...and i believe the opinion of many here...doom is cheaper and better....not made of foam...solid...extremelly detailed.....and in case you don't know again...sideshow marvel high end pieces sells much more than star wars these days....just take a look at the sideshow marvel prices on ebay..and the star wars items and you will see.....

....and so what if they sell 300 bikers...that's not the case...neither is people having this piece or not...the problem was the hype...fake advertising.....and the fact it won't hold value....like every star wars premium...that kills the collectability of these star wars items...if you are ok with it good for you...but don't say it's not sideshow fault cause it is...they have been making star wars pieces for a time now to know better....

Sniper
06-14-2007, 11:32 PM
strickly cancelled!:thumbsdow

Hellboy
06-14-2007, 11:33 PM
CANCELED!!! :tounge:

I want to see everyone that voted on that Poll canceling their orders. I did my part.

I hear ya. We need to take a stand as collectors IMO. If it was SS's intention to offer anywhere near 1500 of these they should NEVER have advertised it as "strictly limited." The only way to keep them from doing this in the future is to CANCEL your pre-order.

DetroitSportsFan
06-14-2007, 11:35 PM
All of those precious rewards points gone... :bawling:

bruceb
06-14-2007, 11:37 PM
CANCELED!!! :tounge:



I hear ya. We need to take a stand as collectors IMO. If it was SS's intention to offer anywhere near 1500 of these they should NEVER have advertised it as "strictly limited." The only way to keep them from doing this in the future is to CANCEL your pre-order.

...i concur hellboy...it's sideshow's fault...who can't see this is either blind...stupid..or work for them....

Natrix
06-14-2007, 11:37 PM
It's more limited than many of the other pieces on the market. In a world market, and given that its a star wars product, the edition size is not that large. You guys are thinking secondary market value. And that really isn't the only consideration. What about the people who want one, can't afford $3000, and weren't as quick at the switch when the piece went up for order? I think they'd be thanking Sideshow, don't you?

$3,000??

Also, not looking at selling it but I don't want to lose money by getting it for $800 from Sideshow but could have saved $200-300 on ebay.

SolidLiquidFox
06-14-2007, 11:38 PM
Anyone else here think Sideshow is filtering out the flippers with this 1500 announcement? I mean, could they come later and announce the true ES?

I feel a disturbance in the force as they say...

Hellboy
06-14-2007, 11:38 PM
All of those precious rewards points gone... :bawling:

$800 in Reward Points is only equal to $40. You'll easily save 2-3 times that once it hits eBay.

cap70
06-14-2007, 11:39 PM
CANCELED!!! :tounge:



I hear ya. We need to take a stand as collectors IMO. If it was SS's intention to offer anywhere near 1500 of these they should NEVER have advertised it as "strictly limited." The only way to keep them from doing this in the future is to CANCEL your pre-order.

We are doing our part, HB! :buttrock:
"Strictly limited" my ASS!:stick: :stick:

cap70
06-14-2007, 11:41 PM
Anyone else here think Sideshow is filtering out the flippers with this 1500 announcement? I mean, could they come later and announce the true ES?

I feel a disturbance in the force as they say...

"Sorry, but we included an extra 0 in the ES number!" lol

DetroitSportsFan
06-14-2007, 11:41 PM
$800 in Reward Points is only equal to $40. You'll easily save 2-3 times that once it hits eBay.

It was a joke. You know, like this edition size announcement.

Daxion
06-14-2007, 11:48 PM
"Sorry, but we included an extra 0 in the ES number!" lol

That's the only reason I haven't hit the cancel button yet....maybe it was a mistake?


"We have reevaluated the ES on the Speeder Bike and decided to reduce the ES to fall in line with a more strictly limited edition"

"The new and final ES will be 500 (850 worldwide edition size) and the first 250 orders will receive a free Holographic Darth Sidious"

Vader
06-14-2007, 11:58 PM
..of course is my opinion...and i believe the opinion of many here...doom is cheaper and better....not made of foam...solid...extremelly detailed.....and in case you don't know again...sideshow marvel high end pieces sells much more than star wars these days....just take a look at the sideshow marvel prices on ebay..and the star wars items and you will see.....

....and so what if they sell 300 bikers...that's not the case...neither is people having this piece or not...the problem was the hype...fake advertising.....and the fact it won't hold value....like every star wars premium...that kills the collectability of these star wars items...if you are ok with it good for you...but don't say it's not sideshow fault cause it is...they have been making star wars pieces for a time now to know better....


I don't know what makes you think you're an expert. I know about the market myself. And I know what affects it. And it is the expectation of value increases that is playing too large a role in what was once a cool hobby. It's gotten ridiculous. And you can't blame sideshow for hopping on the bandwagon, and trying to make some profit in a game that has the "flippers" making the real money. The product looks great. I don't know what you're talking about. We create the "hype", not sideshow. They deliver what is asked for. did you want them to make 50 so you could flip them at $1500? Sorry they didn't get you what you want.

Vader
06-15-2007, 12:00 AM
$3,000??

Also, not looking at selling it but I don't want to lose money by getting it for $800 from Sideshow but could have saved $200-300 on ebay.

I agree. Get it from local retailers. As it is, they've been hit with Sideshow selling most of their pieces direct. If the edition size is too low, retailers can't make a buck.

Vader
06-15-2007, 12:01 AM
...i concur hellboy...it's sideshow's fault...who can't see this is either blind...stupid..or work for them....

People who call others "stupid" because of collectible toys are really throwing stones from glass houses.

bruceb
06-15-2007, 12:15 AM
I don't know what makes you think you're an expert. I know about the market myself. And I know what affects it. And it is the expectation of value increases that is playing too large a role in what was once a cool hobby. It's gotten ridiculous. And you can't blame sideshow for hopping on the bandwagon, and trying to make some profit in a game that has the "flippers" making the real money. The product looks great. I don't know what you're talking about. We create the "hype", not sideshow. They deliver what is asked for. did you want them to make 50 so you could flip them at $1500? Sorry they didn't get you what you want.

....i ain't a flipper in the first place...i never even ordered this...and since you have trouble understanding things..i won't waste anymore time with you..you seems to be in the minority here..which proves you are in fact wrong...in many levels..i'm not the only person disagreeing with your views...
.....re read my posts...sideshow created the hype when they said strictly limited.....that's our beef....if you can't understand that..there's nothing i can do....i ain't blaming them for beeing greedy or beeing a business...but for saying one thing..then doing another...the results you will see in the future...just wait... when they become gentle giant or master replicas and loose their star wars license....it's a collectible market after all...

...in my case....i rather prefer if they did 10000 pieces...just like sauron....and the price was cheaper...instead of them doing what they did...then people would be happy...everyone that wanted would have one...no fights...no flipping...

bruceb
06-15-2007, 12:17 AM
People who call others "stupid" because of collectible toys are really throwing stones from glass houses.

.....the true blind is the one that doesn't want to see...if you think sideshow did right..then go kiss their asses...me and others here think they did wrong...there's nothing to argue....you won't change our view.....

Hellboy
06-15-2007, 12:19 AM
I don't know what makes you think you're an expert. I know about the market myself. And I know what affects it. And it is the expectation of value increases that is playing too large a role in what was once a cool hobby. It's gotten ridiculous. And you can't blame sideshow for hopping on the bandwagon, and trying to make some profit in a game that has the "flippers" making the real money. The product looks great. I don't know what you're talking about. We create the "hype", not sideshow. They deliver what is asked for. did you want them to make 50 so you could flip them at $1500? Sorry they didn't get you what you want.

I think you're missing the point. Nobody is upset at Sideshow for meeting demand. What we are upset about is that demand was predicated on false advertising with the claim it would be "strictly limited."

Some people, myself included felt that $800 was to much for this collectible in the first place but the hint of a "strictly limited" ES made us think it might be wise to buy this from SS direct because it had a better chance of retaining it's value than past Star Wars PFs. At 1500 pieces this WILL NOT hold it's retail value of $800. Its a high end item and people who were on the fence to begin with have just jumped off. What you're left with is the actual demand and I guarantee you its nowhere near as high as it was before the ES was announced.

CocoPUFF
06-15-2007, 12:35 AM
strictly limited my a$$! This is horrible news.....:banghead:

tomandshell
06-15-2007, 12:37 AM
What I expected, but not what I hoped.

bruceb
06-15-2007, 12:48 AM
I think you're missing the point. Nobody is upset at Sideshow for meeting demand. What we are upset about is that demand was predicated on false advertising with the claim it would be "strictly limited."

Some people, myself included felt that $800 was to much for this collectible in the first place but the hint of a "strictly limited" ES made us think it might be wise to buy this from SS direct because it had a better chance of retaining it's value than past Star Wars PFs. At 1500 pieces this WILL NOT hold it's retail value of $800. Its a high end item and people who were on the fence to begin with have just jumped off. What you're left with is the actual demand and I guarantee you its nowhere near as high as it was before the ES was announced.

...perfectly said...and just to add....sideshow never sold 1500...they may have 1500 pre orders...but we all know many people cancel...many people ordered just to be safe.....hoping for a lower number...and then they cancel...there's nothing to fear......you can cancel anytime with sideshow.....it happened before.....it will happen again...sideshow is to blame here also...in some items they need to put the edition size of the product first...their easy policy makes even easier to miscalculate the sales...they know that...and the results we know...a flooded market...and prices falling by the minute on most of the star wars item....

daelith
06-15-2007, 12:50 AM
I cancelled, and I didn't even order one in the first place...

Parker
06-15-2007, 01:34 AM
Canceled a well ...kind of feel happy about this

iansilv
06-15-2007, 01:45 AM
F!!!

This is the kind of crap I am talking about- if you are not going to do everything possible to make sure the piece is STRICTLY scale and detail accurate, you had better make it freakin' limited!!!!!

I don't know, I just don't know...

Prepare for some nerd rage at SDCC!!!!

DSTEPHAN
06-15-2007, 01:57 AM
This thread is funny!

Grab the pitchforks and torches, we're going to the mall!

Oh wait, if the dealers are only getting one - where are all those cheap ones coming from?

comicfan
06-15-2007, 02:04 AM
another sideshow fiasco! glad i don't collect star wars.
stricly limited has a hole new meaning.

comicfan
06-15-2007, 02:05 AM
Oh wait, if the dealers are only getting one - where are all those cheap ones coming from?

with 1500 pieces out, i doubt dealers will get only one.

Domer
06-15-2007, 02:09 AM
another sideshow fiasco! glad i don't collect star wars.
stricly limited has a hole new meaning.

This change is only for the good as the shipping changes. But good for whom? :thumbs2:

Sgt Taz
06-15-2007, 03:06 AM
And I was thinking they'd never dare to make the ES as high as 1000 since they announced it to be "strictly limited" and dealers are (supposedly) only getting 1 each......but BAM! slap in the face! At 1500 there just laughing at us :stick:
Tell them morons it's "strictly limited" and they'll actualy think it's limited, Bwahahahaha! (50cent - "laughing all the way to the bank" comes to mind)

Trilogy
06-15-2007, 03:07 AM
Ouch, that sucks.:thumbsdow

Still going to keep my order though, SS offers peace of mind that I just can't get from any eBay transaction, especially on damaged pieces.

Agreed, this is why I may still keep my order with Sideshow.

Trilogy
06-15-2007, 03:14 AM
Anyone else here think Sideshow is filtering out the flippers with this 1500 announcement? I mean, could they come later and announce the true ES?

I feel a disturbance in the force as they say...


Yes, they need to announce there was a typo in the ES.

geto10
06-15-2007, 03:24 AM
OH SNAP!!!

http://www.gopmom.com/images/mnie_joy.jpg

Obi-Wan Kenobi
06-15-2007, 04:06 AM
Its good limitation:) is not very high:)

Trilogy
06-15-2007, 04:11 AM
Its good limitation:) is not very high:)

:eek:

Vracula
06-15-2007, 04:21 AM
wow the SW Geeks are pissed of

Trilogy
06-15-2007, 04:46 AM
with 1500 pieces out, i doubt dealers will get only one.

Don`t think that retailers being limited to one was strictly true in the first place.
It certainly wont be now.

mrcrolley
06-15-2007, 04:50 AM
I know I don't post much but is this Edition a surprise. Somewhere on $ide$show site I read that they have over 700 trade accounts so it's one per dealer boom 700 right there. Isn't this edition size really just a self-fulfilling prophecy. How many people were thinking this is the next big thing gotta get it so I can flip it. If it was an edition of 300 you can guarantee everyone would be crying I am a Star Wars fan I need to have this someone hook me up. If you were getting this because you wanted it this is a good thing for you. Now you can have it cheaper if your complaining about the edition size I think everyone can see why you are. $ide$how is in a tough spot if they annouced the edition sizes right away and set them at a low number like everyone seems to want. People would be crying fowl left and right 500 isn't enough I want that. Maybe we as Collectors should give them a break and only order what really want and can afford.

Buzzie
06-15-2007, 04:54 AM
Dont care... Attakus Scout will be better for sure... :thumbs2:

k-9
06-15-2007, 04:57 AM
I know I don't post much but is this Edition a surprise. Somewhere on $ide$show site I read that they have over 700 trade accounts so it's one per dealer boom 700 right there. Isn't this edition size really just a self-fulfilling prophecy. How many people were thinking this is the next big thing gotta get it so I can flip it. If it was an edition of 300 you can guarantee everyone would be crying I am a Star Wars fan I need to have this someone hook me up. If you were getting this because you wanted it this is a good thing for you. Now you can have it cheaper if your complaining about the edition size I think everyone can see why you are. $ide$how is in a tough spot if they annouced the edition sizes right away and set them at a low number like everyone seems to want. People would be crying fowl left and right 500 isn't enough I want that. Maybe we as Collectors should give them a break and only order what really want and can afford.

very well put.:thumbs2:

hopefully this piece will now be more readily available at a cheeper price
for those who want it.

Ink
06-15-2007, 05:38 AM
ok...if somebody is thinking of cancelling & hasn't yet, PM me

Darth Vader
06-15-2007, 05:56 AM
Dont care... Attakus Scout will be better for sure... :thumbs2:

Yes, I was waiting for that one anyway ... :buttrock:

Vader
06-15-2007, 06:44 AM
I know I don't post much but is this Edition a surprise. Somewhere on $ide$show site I read that they have over 700 trade accounts so it's one per dealer boom 700 right there. Isn't this edition size really just a self-fulfilling prophecy. How many people were thinking this is the next big thing gotta get it so I can flip it. If it was an edition of 300 you can guarantee everyone would be crying I am a Star Wars fan I need to have this someone hook me up. If you were getting this because you wanted it this is a good thing for you. Now you can have it cheaper if your complaining about the edition size I think everyone can see why you are. $ide$how is in a tough spot if they annouced the edition sizes right away and set them at a low number like everyone seems to want. People would be crying fowl left and right 500 isn't enough I want that. Maybe we as Collectors should give them a break and only order what really want and can afford.

Couldn't be said better:buttrock:

Vader
06-15-2007, 06:48 AM
....i ain't a flipper in the first place...i never even ordered this...and since you have trouble understanding things..i won't waste anymore time with you..you seems to be in the minority here..which proves you are in fact wrong...in many levels..i'm not the only person disagreeing with your views...
.....re read my posts...sideshow created the hype when they said strictly limited.....that's our beef....if you can't understand that..there's nothing i can do....i ain't blaming them for beeing greedy or beeing a business...but for saying one thing..then doing another...the results you will see in the future...just wait... when they become gentle giant or master replicas and loose their star wars license....it's a collectible market after all...

...in my case....i rather prefer if they did 10000 pieces...just like sauron....and the price was cheaper...instead of them doing what they did...then people would be happy...everyone that wanted would have one...no fights...no flipping...


I speak perfectly and comprehend things very well, unlike some people. I don't agree with you. I understand your position, but disagree with it. I don't think its worth it continuing this discussion either. Further, a majority doesn't make things right. That's why there is a Constitution.

Vader
06-15-2007, 06:49 AM
...perfectly said...and just to add....sideshow never sold 1500...they may have 1500 pre orders...but we all know many people cancel...many people ordered just to be safe.....hoping for a lower number...and then they cancel...there's nothing to fear......you can cancel anytime with sideshow.....it happened before.....it will happen again...sideshow is to blame here also...in some items they need to put the edition size of the product first...their easy policy makes even easier to miscalculate the sales...they know that...and the results we know...a flooded market...and prices falling by the minute on most of the star wars item....

I've got an answer for you. Just don't buy from Sideshow. I'm sure they'll have enough customers without you.

Vader
06-15-2007, 06:52 AM
another sideshow fiasco! glad i don't collect star wars.
stricly limited has a hole new meaning.

Actually, strictly limited usually means "strictly limited to initial orders". Most of RB's statues would be characterized as "strictly limited", even when he was churning out runs of 5000. Just because Sideshow has been delivering extremely low edition sizes, I don't think we can blame them for turning out something more comparable to other companies this time around. This is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Everyone has been buying Sideshow in this last little while. Can't people give them a break?

Underdog07
06-15-2007, 08:15 AM
I cancelled mine - $800 is too much for something that is this strictly limited. Although I still feel the word strictly never implied a low edition size

endless1
06-15-2007, 08:18 AM
I keep my order but it is ebay bound:buttrock:

cougartrace
06-15-2007, 08:20 AM
way to stick it to the flippers sideshow :D

Juggernaut
06-15-2007, 08:22 AM
way to stick it to the flippers sideshow :D

Thats the only upside.

IronFingaz
06-15-2007, 08:40 AM
CANCELED!!! :tounge:



I hear ya. We need to take a stand as collectors IMO. If it was SS's intention to offer anywhere near 1500 of these they should NEVER have advertised it as "strictly limited." The only way to keep them from doing this in the future is to CANCEL your pre-order.

I don't know why, but it feels a little like deja vu to me. "cough" Boba "cough":tounge:

larbob
06-15-2007, 08:56 AM
Yes, I was waiting for that one anyway ... :buttrock:

That's what I like about Attakus...you know they will only make 1,700 of a specific statue or less if it is an exclusive such as Sandtrooper Sergeant at 750 pieces.:thumbs2:

Looking forward to their version of Trooper w/bike in Series 5.

larry

bruceb
06-15-2007, 08:57 AM
I don't think its worth it continuing this discussion either.

...good....

biglebowski9999
06-15-2007, 09:02 AM
I keep my order but it is ebay bound:buttrock:



So you can lose money on the deal? One sold last night for $600, lol.

bruceb
06-15-2007, 09:02 AM
I've got an answer for you. Just don't buy from Sideshow. I'm sure they'll have enough customers without you.

.....but of course i won't buy this piece...since the begining i said that...lame character...made of foam...riding an innaccurate bike ....and now strictly limited to 1500....gotta be kidding...:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
...regarding buying from sideshow.....i own many sideshow collectibles......the fact they did wrong now..doesn't mean i won't keep buying from them...so thanks for your concern....as i said.....i never thought about buying this lame piece in the first place..... but everytime they do wrong.....i will voice my opinion and concerns......everytime....screw the ass kissers.... :cool:

Zoyvod
06-15-2007, 09:07 AM
I am not going to jump to Sideshows defense here they are the ones that said limited. What I will say is based on #'s like this amazing forum I am glad to be a part of. First "Most users ever online was 1,003, 12-08-2006 at 01:32 PM." Then if you look at our member tally "Members: 7,875" I mean this is just one forum. The world population 6,720,733,800, and of course that continues to grow. I think the word "Limited" is a term used way to much (Just go down the DVD isle at any store.), and like art it is a matter of interpretation. While I think 1500 is way to high simply based on the asking price. The numbers don’t lie, and even if the attendance at the latest Star Wars Celebration was 100,000 (I am sure it was more) take just 2% of that it equals 2000. If there was a much more limited/exclusive version this would not sting as much.

BigLeagueChu
06-15-2007, 09:13 AM
That's what I like about Attakus...you know they will only make 1,700 of a specific statue or less if it is an exclusive such as Sandtrooper Sergeant at 750 pieces.:thumbs2:

Looking forward to their version of Trooper w/bike in Series 5.

larry

And the Attakus Speeder Bike will have no foam/plastic either :)

Trilogy
06-15-2007, 09:16 AM
Nice to see the bashing has begun.

elwood49
06-15-2007, 09:18 AM
Cancelled. May try to pick one up later for $500 shipped.

JSA
06-15-2007, 09:22 AM
The one that sold for around $600 is from Hong Kong, and here is another
one from the same seller - you've GOT to read the description:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sideshow-Star-Wars-1-4-Scale-Speeder-Bike-Scout-Trooper_W0QQitemZ250131048636QQihZ015QQcategoryZ37889QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Yikes! I don't know what translator that text was put through, but that
combined with being in HK does explain the low ending price to me.

JS

JSA
06-15-2007, 09:23 AM
I couldn't resist copying it here, in case they edit it:

Sideshow

Star Wars - 1/4 Scale Figure: Episode VI Speeder Bike & Scout Trooper

About 53cm tall, 89cm long.

Empire troop, scout trooper. ' As for the star wars ' 1/4 scale figure series up-to-date works of the side Shaw corporation, the scout torr which has embarked to the speeder - motorcycle - per it appears! Modelling quality of reliance - to in addition, the armored clothes and the speeder which become dirty - the prejudice which goes into the detail of the motorcycle just only the side Shaw's completion. Be able to guarantee 180 degree sight, the scout trooper which can ride and handle the motorcycle of high speed - which is the per only appearance impression is attractive. Height approximately 53 centimeters and length approximately 89 centimeters, weight includes the package and it is approximately 15kg and the ultimate superb article which is heavy-looking and the high-class impression.
This is pre-order.

JS :confused2

Trilogy
06-15-2007, 09:29 AM
Trying to read that is enough to give you a headache.

Zoyvod
06-15-2007, 09:33 AM
I couldn't resist copying it here, in case they edit it:

Sideshow

Star Wars - 1/4 Scale Figure: Episode VI Speeder Bike & Scout Trooper

About 53cm tall, 89cm long.

Empire troop, scout trooper. ' As for the star wars ' 1/4 scale figure series up-to-date works of the side Shaw corporation, the scout torr which has embarked to the speeder - motorcycle - per it appears! Modelling quality of reliance - to in addition, the armored clothes and the speeder which become dirty - the prejudice which goes into the detail of the motorcycle just only the side Shaw's completion. Be able to guarantee 180 degree sight, the scout trooper which can ride and handle the motorcycle of high speed - which is the per only appearance impression is attractive. Height approximately 53 centimeters and length approximately 89 centimeters, weight includes the package and it is approximately 15kg and the ultimate superb article which is heavy-looking and the high-class impression.
This is pre-order.

JS :confused2

It looks like they typed it in their language then used a translator like Alta Vista to switch it to english.

MONSTER
06-15-2007, 09:34 AM
I keep my order but it is ebay bound:buttrock:

Nice to know you are willing to sell it for a loss on ebay. Let me know your ebay id so I can buy it from you for $500.00:)

DetroitSportsFan
06-15-2007, 09:36 AM
Oh wait, if the dealers are only getting one - where are all those cheap ones coming from?

Haven't you been watching the trends with other SW PFs? With the exception of Han ex, they have all fallen in value, because the edition sizes are too high.

Even the most hardcore SS Kool-Aid drinker can see that.

Logan Cade
06-15-2007, 09:36 AM
I don’t consider myself a flipper, but when it comes to Sideshow’s ¼ scale PF line, I simply can not justify a purchase unless I’m reasonably sure it’s going to hold its value. I guess my price on “cool factor’ alone is pretty low.

I can tolerate depreciation in things that are necessities, but when it comes to collectables, especially ¼ scale collectables which take up a lot of real estate on the shelves, I need to know that I can unload the old to bring in whatever new piece that has now caught my eye….without taking a bath.

This just makes common “financial” sense to me.


I use a lot of your opinions on this site as a barometer of sorts and concerning the ES of 1500 on this Speeder bike, I agree….that hurt!

But I was wondering if we should hold off canceling to the last minute. This product doesn’t come due until just after Christmas of this year, a time when generally people are pretty much tapped out. If a majority of the cancellations showed up then, our disapproval of “strictly limited” meaning 1500 might be felt more.

elwood49
06-15-2007, 09:41 AM
Oh wait, if the dealers are only getting one - where are all those cheap ones coming from?

Remember when they announced that dealers could only order like 10 of the last Weta pieces (King of the Dead, etc)? Dealers will be able to order more at this extremely high ES after all of these cancellations.

Even the exclusives don't hold their value, how can a non-exclusive expect to do the same?

It's really no different than picking up a Cinemaquette for way under retail, even though there's supposed to be no way to do that.

elwood49
06-15-2007, 09:43 AM
If a majority of the cancellations showed up then, our disapproval of “strictly limited” meaning 1500 might be felt more.

That's a great idea. Have a mass cancellation of almost all of them a few days before they ship. They'd be stuck in Second Chance hell forever, and we'd all be able to pick them up cheap on Ebay. :)

BTW, I did just cancel mine.

rychehitman
06-15-2007, 09:44 AM
you guys didnt really cancel did you?

they just updated the site...

its 150 pieces not 1500!!!


:)

Trilogy
06-15-2007, 09:46 AM
Typo! :buttrock:








:laugh:

rychehitman
06-15-2007, 09:47 AM
Typo! :buttrock:








:laugh:

:laugh: could you imagine the heads that would roll!

Collection King 13
06-15-2007, 09:51 AM
way to stick it to the flippers sideshow :D

Thats the only upside.

What is it that you guys have against flippers... :banghead:

cougartrace
06-15-2007, 09:53 AM
ahh..CK I was really jk...all you flippers are okay in my book...(did I just say that) :)

Blueprint
06-15-2007, 10:06 AM
ok...i've been away for awhile. what happened?? :p

Vader
06-15-2007, 10:07 AM
.....but of course i won't buy this piece...since the begining i said that...lame character...made of foam...riding an innaccurate bike ....and now strictly limited to 1500....gotta be kidding...:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
...regarding buying from sideshow.....i own many sideshow collectibles......the fact they did wrong now..doesn't mean i won't keep buying from them...so thanks for your concern....as i said.....i never thought about buying this lame piece in the first place..... but everytime they do wrong.....i will voice my opinion and concerns......everytime....screw the ass kissers.... :cool:

Takes a "kisser" to know one.

Collection King 13
06-15-2007, 10:07 AM
ahh..CK I was really jk...all you flippers are okay in my book...(did I just say that) :)

:buttrock:

Collection King 13
06-15-2007, 10:08 AM
That's the only reason I haven't hit the cancel button yet....maybe it was a mistake?


"We have reevaluated the ES on the Speeder Bike and decided to reduce the ES to fall in line with a more strictly limited edition"

"The new and final ES will be 500 (850 worldwide edition size) and the first 250 orders will receive a free Holographic Darth Sidious"

Where is this from?

bruceb
06-15-2007, 10:08 AM
Takes a "kisser" to know one.

....the only ass kisser we see here is you....

Collection King 13
06-15-2007, 10:09 AM
....the only ass kisser we see here is you....

Get a room guys!

cougartrace
06-15-2007, 10:09 AM
now,now boys..lol

bruceb
06-15-2007, 10:09 AM
ok...i've been away for awhile. what happened?? :p

...hehehehehe...nothing really....just some people upset with sideshow tactics...that's all... =)

Trilogy
06-15-2007, 10:10 AM
Where is this from?

He`s fooling. ;)

bruceb
06-15-2007, 10:11 AM
Where is this from?

... :laugh:..you wish it was true collection king...

Collection King 13
06-15-2007, 10:12 AM
He`s fooling. ;)

Thats what I figured but I didnt see anyone else comment on it...

Trilogy
06-15-2007, 10:12 AM
...hehehehehe...nothing really....just some people upset with sideshow tactics...that's all... =)

Nothing new there.

ta2215
06-15-2007, 10:12 AM
If anyone is interested I am selling mine, it is strictly limited and I will add some stones to it to make it heavier.

http://tk2215.com/hasbro/hasbro_bikerscout_low.jpg

Trilogy
06-15-2007, 10:13 AM
Thats what I figured but I didnt see anyone else comment on it...

We were all holding off to dupe you. :laugh:

bruceb
06-15-2007, 10:14 AM
Nothing new there.

....they are probably laughing their asses off....glad to know that some people canceled it like they said they would....

bruceb
06-15-2007, 10:14 AM
If anyone is interested I am selling mine, it is strictly limited and I will add some stones to it to make it heavier.

http://tk2215.com/hasbro/hasbro_bikerscout_low.jpg

...hehehe...that looks about as good....sad but true....only smaller... =)

Collection King 13
06-15-2007, 10:15 AM
We were all holding off to dupe you. :laugh:

:laugh: thats why I asked 1st... so I wouldnt get duped... :laugh:

Vader
06-15-2007, 10:26 AM
....the only ass kisser we see here is you....

You wish.

bruceb
06-15-2007, 10:27 AM
You wish.

...bye...

Vader
06-15-2007, 11:37 AM
...bye...

Farewell

Collection King 13
06-15-2007, 11:42 AM
shut up

cougartrace
06-15-2007, 11:45 AM
shut up


:laugh:

Trilogy
06-15-2007, 11:45 AM
shut up

:buttrock:












:laugh:

Collection King 13
06-15-2007, 11:48 AM
:laugh:
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w194/itsasecret_photo/shutup.jpg

rychehitman
06-15-2007, 11:49 AM
lol

Collection King 13
06-15-2007, 11:50 AM
aw geeze! Dont go and get banned again!:banghead:

Edit it... I erased em.. :D

Trilogy
06-15-2007, 11:50 AM
http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/images/smilies/horror.gif


:laugh:http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/images/smilies/rotfl.gif:laugh:

Vader
06-15-2007, 11:50 AM
:bawling:

biglebowski9999
06-15-2007, 11:51 AM
Promptly cancelled

Collection King 13
06-15-2007, 11:51 AM
http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/images/smilies/horror.gif


:laugh:http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/images/smilies/rotfl.gif::

you forgot the brackets ] :D

Trilogy
06-15-2007, 11:53 AM
you forgot the brackets ] :D

Corrected. :thumbs2:

biglebowski9999
06-15-2007, 11:56 AM
I couldn't resist copying it here, in case they edit it:

Sideshow

Star Wars - 1/4 Scale Figure: Episode VI Speeder Bike & Scout Trooper

About 53cm tall, 89cm long.

Empire troop, scout trooper. ' As for the star wars ' 1/4 scale figure series up-to-date works of the side Shaw corporation, the scout torr which has embarked to the speeder - motorcycle - per it appears! Modelling quality of reliance - to in addition, the armored clothes and the speeder which become dirty - the prejudice which goes into the detail of the motorcycle just only the side Shaw's completion. Be able to guarantee 180 degree sight, the scout trooper which can ride and handle the motorcycle of high speed - which is the per only appearance impression is attractive. Height approximately 53 centimeters and length approximately 89 centimeters, weight includes the package and it is approximately 15kg and the ultimate superb article which is heavy-looking and the high-class impression.
This is pre-order.

JS :confused2




:laugh:

Screw Side Shaw!

Darth Pain
06-15-2007, 11:56 AM
lmao Poor scalpers.

biglebowski9999
06-15-2007, 11:58 AM
LMAO even more at the chumps that keep their SS orders when they will be going for $500 on Ebay. That'll really show all the flippers....

Trilogy
06-15-2007, 11:59 AM
:laugh:
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w194/itsasecret_photo/shutup.jpg


Safer. :thumbs2:

rychehitman
06-15-2007, 12:01 PM
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w192/dadrew117/stfuhand.gif

Trilogy
06-15-2007, 12:03 PM
:laugh:

You have too much time on your hands.

Darth Pain
06-15-2007, 12:13 PM
:bawling: :laugh: :laugh:

Vader
06-15-2007, 12:17 PM
:stick: I'm not the one with 22,000 posts.

sleepindeath
06-15-2007, 12:19 PM
Either way $800.00 is too much for plastic...

Wooktroop
06-15-2007, 12:40 PM
Either way $800.00 is too much for plastic...


not plastic
its foam:eplus2:

sleepindeath
06-15-2007, 12:54 PM
not plastic
its foam:eplus2:

That just makes it more reason why not to purchase it at $800.00

bruceb
06-15-2007, 03:52 PM
not plastic
its foam:eplus2:

...maybe if we drop it in water it will become a lifesize statue....that's why the 800 price .... :eplus2:

bruceb
06-15-2007, 03:53 PM
Either way $800.00 is too much for plastic...

...way too much for plastic and foam...:thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow

nash
06-15-2007, 04:05 PM
but it's "high density" foam :thumbs2: :redface:

sleepindeath
06-15-2007, 04:11 PM
Overall crap as far as I am concerned.

Collection King 13
06-15-2007, 04:37 PM
:stick: I'm not the one with 22,000 posts.

What does post counts have to with anything... you and bruce sound like a married couple fighting... :laugh:

bruceb
06-15-2007, 04:44 PM
What does post counts have to with anything... you and bruce sound like a married couple fighting... :laugh:

...laugh:.. leave me out of this, king.... :stick:

bruceb
06-15-2007, 04:45 PM
but it's "high density" foam :thumbs2: :redface:

...ahh...forgot about it...so it should cost $800.... :rolleyes: :thumbs2:

Collection King 13
06-15-2007, 04:47 PM
...laugh:.. leave me out of this, king.... :stick:

I just read'em how I see'em.... :thumbs2:

Trilogy
06-15-2007, 04:51 PM
Overall crap as far as I am concerned.

OK, you obviously don`t like it but why call it crap.

Bullseye
06-15-2007, 04:53 PM
Guys whatever you might think about this piece it is certainly not crap. Its an incredible piece.

Trilogy
06-15-2007, 04:54 PM
Guys whatever you might think about this piece it is certainly not crap. Its an incredible piece.

I totally agree B.

bruceb
06-15-2007, 04:55 PM
OK, you obviously don`t like it but why call it crap.

..i agree..

...we joke and stuff..... we get upset with sideshow about the way they play......but this piece is not crap...may be a little on the expensive side for what it is and for how many there is...but no way crap...something needs to be really bad to be called crap.... like the gentle giant obi-wan statue.... =)

Juggernaut
06-15-2007, 04:59 PM
What is it that you guys have against flippers... :banghead:

You are taking the product away form a real collector, or at least minimizing the chances for the collector to get the prodcut for a nice price.

Flipper's just buy to sell the product to a desperate collector's for a much higher cost, just to gain some profit for himself.

Bullseye
06-15-2007, 04:59 PM
People should not allow ES #s cloud their judgment of a piece. I really like how this looks. I like the fact that SS has had the guts to make it in the first place. I would have preferred a smaller run to protect its value since it is so expensive but since this is SW i think its value will be protected.

Juggernaut
06-15-2007, 05:02 PM
BTW CK.

I think your a nice guy if that help's even though you are a crappy flipper. :eplus2:

Collection King 13
06-15-2007, 05:05 PM
BTW CK.

I think your a nice guy if that help's even though you are a crappy flipper. :eplus2:

LMAO!!! THanks! :thumbs2:

Collection King 13
06-15-2007, 05:06 PM
You are taking the product away form a real collector, or at least minimizing the chances for the collector to get the prodcut for a nice price.

Flipper's just buy to sell the product to a desperate collector's for a much higher cost, just to gain some profit for himself.

I understand what you are sayin but when I flip its usually to help pay for other items in my collection...

Juggernaut
06-15-2007, 05:07 PM
Hey Ck dont say to anyone else I like you. :thumbs2:

Juggernaut
06-15-2007, 05:09 PM
I understand what you are sayin but when I flip its usually to help pay for other items in my collection...

I don't even have money to buy flip merchandise :laugh:

Collection King 13
06-15-2007, 05:09 PM
Hey Ck dont say to anyone else I like you. :thumbs2:

Dont tell boony... he gets jealous! :D

Collection King 13
06-15-2007, 05:10 PM
I don't even have money to buy flip merchandise to buy for my own collection. :laugh:

:laugh:

devlinboy
06-15-2007, 05:10 PM
a collector should never be desperate. i want a doom pf, bad. but im not willing to pay what its going for on ebay. i will just live without it. its no skin off my ass. i just feel lucky to get the pieces i have. i dont see the intelligence in paying flipping value for a piece. if a piece is a must have that you are willing to pay 3-4 times the msrp you should have been there to buy it in the first place.

Trilogy
06-15-2007, 05:13 PM
People should not allow ES #s cloud their judgment of a piece. I really like how this looks. I like the fact that SS has had the guts to make it in the first place. I would have preferred a smaller run to protect its value since it is so expensive but since this is SW i think its value will be protected.


I think its safe to say we all would have prefered a smaller ES for obvious reasons. I think in the long term this could keep its value and may even become a very sort after item with SW fans, depending on whether Sideshow produce anything along this line again.

ump
06-15-2007, 05:19 PM
The one that sold for around $600 is from Hong Kong, and here is another
one from the same seller - you've GOT to read the description:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sideshow-Star-Wars-1-4-Scale-Speeder-Bike-Scout-Trooper_W0QQitemZ250131048636QQihZ015QQcategoryZ37889QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Yikes! I don't know what translator that text was put through, but that
combined with being in HK does explain the low ending price to me.

JS

The shipping cost from hong Kong to USA is about $300-$350 (or more)for this item....Its very big ,heavy...and fragile item....

geto10
06-15-2007, 06:18 PM
Who the hell preorders through ebay when it's at least half a year left.

toe
06-15-2007, 06:57 PM
so does this mean most e-tailers will get allocated with more than 1 statue ?

Natrix
06-15-2007, 07:10 PM
People should not allow ES #s cloud their judgment of a piece. I really like how this looks. I like the fact that SS has had the guts to make it in the first place. I would have preferred a smaller run to protect its value since it is so expensive but since this is SW i think its value will be protected.

Yeah, it will hold it's value like all the other Star Wars PF exclusives.....oh wait they don't hold their value either...:stick:

Bullseye
06-15-2007, 08:09 PM
Forbidden Planet has this down for £514.99 Sterling. Thats $1017.88.

Vader
06-15-2007, 09:07 PM
What does post counts have to with anything... you and bruce sound like a married couple fighting... :laugh:

You're right. I had a bad day. Give a guy a break.

Chris.

BlueSnaggletooth1
06-15-2007, 11:10 PM
Cancelled.:buttrock:

-Snags

Trilogy
06-16-2007, 02:49 AM
Who the hell preorders through ebay when it's at least half a year left.

I certainly wouldn`t, but then I don`t buy nothing through ebay anyway.

Trilogy
06-16-2007, 02:50 AM
so does this mean most e-tailers will get allocated with more than 1 statue ?

I would say theres a strong possibilty, yes.
Although I`m not convinced that was the case to begin with.

Trilogy
06-16-2007, 02:52 AM
Forbidden Planet has this down for £514.99 Sterling. Thats $1017.88.

Yep, got their NL but I`ll still stick with Sideshow for piece of mind.

Strontium Dog
06-16-2007, 03:40 AM
Forbidden Planet has this down for £514.99 Sterling. Thats $1017.88.

Thing is Bulls for us in the UK we're gonna pay VAT plus shipping which by my calculation is gonna push the price to around $965 anyway :bawling:

Now if I decide to cancel and get one from eBay for say $500 I'll still be looking at around $250-$300 shipping I reckon. Then there's import duty as there's no way I'll be able to sneak this one under Customs' radar.

I'm going to have think really hard about whether I really want to spend all that money on this piece.

Trilogy
06-16-2007, 03:55 AM
Thing is Bulls for us in the UK we're gonna pay VAT plus shipping which by my calculation is gonna push the price to around $965 anyway :bawling:

Just done a quick calculation and made it approximately $970, so it is indeed a better option to stick with Sideshow.

ump
06-16-2007, 04:09 AM
Thing is Bulls for us in the UK we're gonna pay VAT plus shipping which by my calculation is gonna push the price to around $965 anyway :bawling:

Now if I decide to cancel and get one from eBay for say $500 I'll still be looking at around $250-$300 shipping I reckon. Then there's import duty as there's no way I'll be able to sneak this one under Customs' radar.

I'm going to have think really hard about whether I really want to spend all that money on this piece.

If you live in UK,its better to get it from UK ebay,the local shipping cost is much cheaper than ship from USA.
You can easy to get one at 250 pound sterling(about us$500+) on UK ebay when its availible.
No hurry to get it,the price will drop and we can make a good deal on ebay.

Trilogy
06-16-2007, 04:26 AM
If you live in UK,its better to get it from UK ebay,the local shipping cost is much cheaper than ship from USA.
You can easy to get one at 250 pound sterling(about us$500+) on UK ebay when its availible.
No hurry to get it,the price will drop and we can make a good deal on ebay.

Theres no way this will be £250 in the UK. Yes it will most likely drop in price but not to that extreme.

geto10
06-16-2007, 04:37 AM
Theres no way this will be £250 in the UK. Yes it will most likely drop in price but not to that extreme.

True that! Europeans pay more on ebay to buy stuff from EU sellers due to lower shipping and no customs.

Kujo
06-16-2007, 04:59 AM
The other problem i find with uk ebay is there isn't much of a choice in SS items! I look on UK and there might be 5-10 pages of stuff, go on US and there might be 40+ on the US one. Damned VAT :redface:

Strontium Dog
06-16-2007, 06:36 AM
If you live in UK,its better to get it from UK ebay,the local shipping cost is much cheaper than ship from USA.
You can easy to get one at 250 pound sterling(about us$500+) on UK ebay when its availible.
No hurry to get it,the price will drop and we can make a good deal on ebay.

You reckon we'll get one for £250 on eBay? I wish I shared your optimism. I reckon the cheapest we'll see this is £400.

Ink
06-16-2007, 07:08 AM
I'll just wait til the retailers put them up for order

Bullseye
06-16-2007, 08:37 AM
Guys thats why SS have us Europeans over a barrell on this one. There is no safer or cheaper way of getting this piece.

Trilogy
06-16-2007, 08:41 AM
Agreed, for the best price and piece of mind, you can`t go wrong ordering direct.

Bullseye
06-16-2007, 08:42 AM
Hopefully they will reward us EU members with low numbers lol.

ambasah
06-16-2007, 08:50 AM
I can completely understand the rationale for those who cancelled hoping to pick it up cheaper on ebay etc.

But I am bewildered at those who are now deciding to not get it at all. It is simply ridiculous to me that a person would choose an item based soley on production size.

I am glad this is readily available for SW fans who want it. The only ones who truly should be so outraged are scalpers.

Trilogy
06-16-2007, 08:52 AM
Hopefully they will reward us EU members with low numbers lol.

:laugh: If only.

Sgt Taz
06-16-2007, 08:56 AM
Hopefully they will reward us EU members with low numbers lol.Now your dreaming. Rewarding us with a non damaged piece might be more do-able :)

Trilogy
06-16-2007, 09:02 AM
Now your dreaming. Rewarding us with a non damaged piece might be more do-able :)

That would please me. :thumbs2:

ump
06-16-2007, 03:34 PM
You reckon we'll get one for £250 on eBay? I wish I shared your optimism. I reckon the cheapest we'll see this is £400.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sideshow-Star-Wars-1-4-Scale-Speeder-Bike-Scout-Trooper_W0QQitemZ250127084049QQihZ015QQcategoryZ37889QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem

this auction was closed at $610(about £300) on ebay few days ago....
i think the price will be drop more when its availible.its not easy to selling out 1500 pieces at us$800.
Rmember that some people are willing to cancel their orders from sideshow directly.so,more stocks will be availible in shops later.lets wait and try to get it at good price..

Strontium Dog
06-16-2007, 04:50 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sideshow-Star-Wars-1-4-Scale-Speeder-Bike-Scout-Trooper_W0QQitemZ250127084049QQihZ015QQcategoryZ37889QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-71/1?AID=5463217&PID=1873910&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.co.uk%2FSideshow-Star-Wars-1-4-Scale-Speeder-Bike-Scout-Trooper_W0QQitemZ250127084049QQihZ015QQcategoryZ37889QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem)

this auction was closed at $610(about £300) on ebay few days ago....
i think the price will be drop more when its availible.its not easy to selling out 1500 pieces at us$800.
Rmember that some people are willing to cancel their orders from sideshow directly.so,more stocks will be availible in shops later.lets wait and try to get it at good price..

Yeah but this was from Hong Kong, how much is shipping from there to the UK?!

The point I'm making is it's my experience that prices from the UK are generally higher even for pieces that have dropped in value in the USA.

Trilogy
06-16-2007, 06:05 PM
Yeah but this was from Hong Kong, how much is shipping from there to the UK?!

The point I'm making is it's my experience that prices from the UK are generally higher even for pieces that have dropped in value in the USA.


Shipping will be extremely high and don`t forget the custom fees and taxs. Theres no way you would ship this devalued due to insurance purposes.

Yes UK prices are far higher than US. Even if this piece drops in value several months after its initial release it will be far more expensive than US prices.

bruceb
06-17-2007, 03:43 AM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sideshow-Star-Wars-1-4-Scale-Speeder-Bike-Scout-Trooper_W0QQitemZ250127084049QQihZ015QQcategoryZ37889QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem

this auction was closed at $610(about £300) on ebay few days ago....
i think the price will be drop more when its availible.its not easy to selling out 1500 pieces at us$800.
Rmember that some people are willing to cancel their orders from sideshow directly.so,more stocks will be availible in shops later.lets wait and try to get it at good price..

..agree..no way this will hold it's value...ain't gonna happen...

BigLeagueChu
06-17-2007, 08:51 AM
how great this collectible could've been...:banghead:

Blue Liquid
06-17-2007, 10:01 PM
I can't help but think that all the people who canceled were never interested in this in the first place, other than to re-sell on eBay. They're hedging their bets that with an edition size of 1500 pieces, the price will drop on ebay, thereby disallowing the flippers to make some extra money. After checking out the photos on the SS site, I made sure I pre-ordered because I think it looks freaking awesome. As a solid SW fan, I can't wait to unpack this thing and put it up next the the General Grievous statue. In the past, when I wasn't working or whatever, I missed out on so many cool things because I waited, hoping to find them cheaper later on. One that comes to mind is the Gentle Giant Dewback & Sandtrooper statue. Now, if I want this, I have to cough $500 for it. So now, I make sure that if it's something I think I might like to have, I go ahead and pre-order it. but since my first action upon receiving this product is not to post an eBay auction, I'm not overly concerned about how many were made. Every last person on here who canceled is a flipper, bottom line. I have no plans to sell my General Grivous statue, i love it. I don;t give a damn if i could only get $100 for it on eBay, cause I'm not putting it on ebay! See what I'm saying? Oh, and as for it being made of foam, it has to balance precariously on the speeder bike, which itself only sits on a single peg/pole thing. How can we expect them to make it out of steel or whatever you guys want it to be made of. Whatever, even polystone would make it too heavy. The logistics of the piece warrant a lightweight material, e.g. foam...wow, I just realized how long this thread is. Sorry!

JSA
06-17-2007, 11:12 PM
how great this collectible could've been...:banghead:

Still is. Just a bit more to go around than some had hoped for.
Doesn't take anything away from the quality of the piece for me.

JS

Hellboy
06-17-2007, 11:15 PM
Every last person on here who canceled is a flipper, bottom line.

Sure, whatever you say, way to generalize buddy. :rolleyes:

For the record I never had any intention of selling mine. Bottom line is I'm not interested in paying more than I need to for ANY collectible regardless of how much I may like it. If you want to pay $800 + shipping by ordering it from SS direct be my guest. Just because I choose to pick this up on the secondary market in an attempt to save a few hundred dollars doesn't make me a flipper. Just a smarter shopper.

Blue Liquid
06-17-2007, 11:22 PM
Bottom line is I'm not interested in paying more than I need to for ANY collectible regardless of how much I may like it. If you want to pay $800 + shipping by ordering it from SS direct be my guest. Just because I choose to pick this up on the secondary market in an attempt to save a few hundred dollars doesn't make me a flipper. Just a smarter shopper.

See, this is the one thing that I can see being a possibility. Take this for an example: the Alien 1/2 bust, giger signed piece which retailed from Sideshow for $1000. Now you can get them on eBay for $500 or less, depending. There's just no way to know. Those who pre-ordered are eating the $500 extra they paid. But then there's the Dr. Doom PF figure, now going for more than $1000. How do you know what to do? What if you want this Scout Trooper later down the line, but they're averaging $950 or so? There's just no way to know... interesting that SS didn't release the edition size until after they were all sold? Whats the rationale behind that?

SquiderM3
06-17-2007, 11:31 PM
Sure, whatever you say, way to generalize buddy. :rolleyes:

For the record I never had any intention of selling mine. Bottom line is I'm not interested in paying more than I need to for ANY collectible regardless of how much I may like it. If you want to pay $800 + shipping by ordering it from SS direct be my guest. Just because I choose to pick this up on the secondary market in an attempt to save a few hundred dollars doesn't make me a flipper. Just a smarter shopper.

Totally understandable that one would want to save some money. With that being said, I have yet to see a SS Boba Fett Ex. for less than the retail price posted by SS. For the extra $20- $100 you may save at time of purchase, it's not worth the grief when it arrives broken. I have always purchased shipping insurance with the statues I have bought off eBay, two have arrived broken, and neither seller has refunded the money yet (it's been over 3 months, not holding my breath).


I believe his point was that the piece was highly touted before ordering but when the edition number came out, it lost some of it's impact. Whether one is produced or a million doesn't change the beauty of the piece, just it's worth to a collector (or a flipper).

Sgt Taz
06-18-2007, 02:48 AM
A low edition would have gave it that extra collectible touch but that aside, I think most of us feel Sideshow played us with the "strictly limited" wordplay to create extra hype for such an expensive piece. Either way, with 1500 now being the ES there's a bigger chance it will be cheaper down the road on the secondary market making it perfectly understandable to cancel from Sideshow direct (unless you live outside of the US). You see not everybody is a flipper, there are other logics as well :peoples:

Trilogy
06-18-2007, 03:13 AM
how great this collectible could've been...:banghead:

Still is. ;)

Trilogy
06-18-2007, 03:14 AM
Still is. Just a bit more to go around than some had hoped for.
Doesn't take anything away from the quality of the piece for me.

JS

Totally agree.

Trilogy
06-18-2007, 03:21 AM
A low edition would have gave it that extra collectible touch but that aside, I think most of us feel Sideshow played us with the "strictly limited" wordplay to create extra hype for such an expensive piece. Either way, with 1500 now being the ES there's a bigger chance it will be cheaper down the road on the secondary market making it perfectly understandable to cancel from Sideshow direct (unless you live outside of the US). You see not everybody is a flipper, there are other logics as well :peoples:

I agree, its perfectly understandable for the US collectors to cancel. This will be easy for them to obtain cheaper elsewhere. Wish I could say the same for the EU collectors.

Hellboy
06-18-2007, 03:58 AM
I believe his point was that the piece was highly touted before ordering but when the edition number came out, it lost some of it's impact. Whether one is produced or a million doesn't change the beauty of the piece, just it's worth to a collector (or a flipper).

Nobody is disputing the beauty of the piece, it looks amazing. What is being disputed is SS advertising it as "strictly limited" during the pre-order process and then setting the ES based on those pre-orders. This creates a false demand because in actuality 1500 pieces is not very limited, especially for an item that retails for $800. As a result many collectors and flippers will cancel believing the piece will not hold its value. This in turn saturates the market. Its basic supply and demand. SS may set the retail value at $800 but in the end the marketplace dictates how much a piece is actually worth. This leaves collectors like myself who live in the US with a choice. Keep their pre-order and pay full retail or try and save a few bucks by going the secondary market route.

SquiderM3
06-18-2007, 04:07 AM
I agree 100% that the 'strategy' used by SS was a bit underhanded. Judging by the backlash and cancellations from members on this site, SS will hopefully learn from this and set a fixed number ES regardless of pre-orders.

Sgt Taz
06-18-2007, 07:55 AM
I agree 100% that the 'strategy' used by SS was a bit underhanded. Judging by the backlash and cancellations from members on this site, SS will hopefully learn from this and set a fixed number ES regardless of pre-orders.They havent learned from Fett and I doubt they'll learn this time. It's hard to see clearly with $$ signs in your eyeballs :stick:

Domer
06-18-2007, 08:18 AM
They havent learned from Fett and I doubt they'll learn this time. It's hard to see clearly with $$ signs in your eyeballs :stick:

And they are not learning about all the complains about the new shipping strategy for EU people. As long as it saves money its ok.
And thats one of the reasons why i personally switched over to get some Bowen items rather than the Sidey3 collectibles for example.

I will try to shoot the biker cheap from ebay.de .co.uk whatever.

sleepindeath
06-18-2007, 08:43 AM
OK, you obviously don`t like it but why call it crap.

Okay so, it has been decided that it is not crap...fair enough.

darthmatrix
06-18-2007, 08:48 AM
has anyone gone on the SS blog and let SS know there canceling and why....I did 1500 is way too much for this peice IMO

rico1701
06-18-2007, 10:01 AM
Didn't order one due to the too high price, but here's what I don't get. Why don't they announce everything up front? Like here's the price, here's how many we are making, etc. This looks to be a bit like a con job by SS. Still think the dang thing is way too much money. I mean it's a speeder bike. You can almost get a cool MR AT-AT for that money.

Trilogy
06-18-2007, 10:09 AM
Didn't order one due to the too high price, but here's what I don't get. Why don't they announce everything up front? Like here's the price, here's how many we are making, etc. This looks to be a bit like a con job by SS. Still think the dang thing is way too much money. I mean it's a speeder bike. You can almost get a cool MR AT-AT for that money.

Its all to do with $$$$, they gauge interest on the piece before deciding on the ES.

Personelly I think all ES`s should be announced prior to the release of the piece.

Collection King 13
06-18-2007, 10:11 AM
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f88/IceRay4Snapz/cancelled.jpg

cap70
06-18-2007, 10:53 AM
Nobody is disputing the beauty of the piece, it looks amazing. What is being disputed is SS advertising it as "strictly limited" during the pre-order process and then setting the ES based on those pre-orders. This creates a false demand because in actuality 1500 pieces is not very limited, especially for an item that retails for $800. As a result many collectors and flippers will cancel believing the piece will not hold its value. This in turn saturates the market. Its basic supply and demand. SS may set the retail value at $800 but in the end the marketplace dictates how much a piece is actually worth. This leaves collectors like myself who live in the US with a choice. Keep their pre-order and pay full retail or try and save a few bucks by going the secondary market route.

Well said HB, that sums it up all my thoughts about this "event"

BigLeagueChu
06-18-2007, 10:55 AM
You can almost get a cool MR AT-AT for that money.

You can actually. IIRC, one forum member wanted $700 pick-up only. The SB is gorgious, but I'd take the MR AT-AT for that money. Now, if I can find the SB around $550-600...that's a different story. :thumbs2:

Helder M.
06-18-2007, 12:53 PM
Bosta, cagada, sujeira, COCO!

porra , buceta , caralho ...:laugh:

Poisonous
06-18-2007, 01:55 PM
porra , buceta , caralho ...:laugh:

Quién puso este pollo en mis pantalones :buttrock:



Have no idea what i just said, but thought i'd just chime in as that beautiful language always gets me riled up.

Canceled btw.

cap70
06-18-2007, 02:11 PM
porra , buceta , caralho ...:laugh:

:laugh: Sideshow tem que lançar uma!
E oia os gringo aee en ciiima tentandu intendei o que a genti ta falaandu ! :laugh: