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sheople
06-23-2007, 09:55 PM
I just received this thing today and I was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO excited about going home today to put him together. I opened it up and inspected the pieces first to see if there were any problems. I came across a problem... It's just my luck I guess.

I'll start with the bad news first.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/sheople/IMG_0394.jpg

sheople
06-23-2007, 09:59 PM
Since there was a problem with this piece, it kind of brought down my day and I didn't feel like putting too much effort into the pics.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/sheople/IMG_0389.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/sheople/IMG_0393.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/sheople/IMG_0396.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/sheople/IMG_0398.jpg

ickwinzs
06-23-2007, 09:59 PM
take a sharpie to that!!

sheople
06-23-2007, 09:59 PM
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/sheople/IMG_0404.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/sheople/IMG_0402.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/sheople/IMG_0403.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/sheople/IMG_0405.jpg

sheople
06-23-2007, 10:00 PM
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/sheople/IMG_0406.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/sheople/IMG_0407.jpg

GangstaRoranous
06-23-2007, 10:02 PM
Is that a chip or is it just missing paint?

sheople
06-23-2007, 10:03 PM
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/sheople/IMG_0411.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/sheople/IMG_0415.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/sheople/IMG_0413.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/sheople/IMG_0414.jpg

sheople
06-23-2007, 10:04 PM
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/sheople/IMG_0416.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/sheople/IMG_0418.jpg

sheople
06-23-2007, 10:07 PM
take a sharpie to that!!

:stick: no

Is that a chip or is it just missing paint?

It's a Chip:bawling:

ickwinzs
06-23-2007, 10:12 PM
man that little chip is nothing I cannot believe some people are that anal

comicfan
06-23-2007, 10:14 PM
put some paint in there!

sheople
06-23-2007, 10:14 PM
man that little chip is nothing I cannot believe some people are that anal

:bawling:

bruiser72
06-23-2007, 10:17 PM
Well yes some people are that anal, I would just paint match but I would be bumbed out too if i had a chip. To each his own I guess.

legato
06-23-2007, 10:19 PM
We're talking about SS here, sometimes you get a replacement that's worse than the original problem.

ickwinzs
06-23-2007, 10:19 PM
Well yes some people are that anal, I would just paint match but I would be bumbed out too if i had a chip. To each his own I guess.

I gues when you can fix your own it doesn't seem that bad, sorry about bilittling your pain

rilynil
06-23-2007, 10:22 PM
I can barely see a problem in that pic. Is the chip on the meat of the thumb?

SolidLiquidFox
06-23-2007, 10:23 PM
We're talking about SS here, sometimes you get a replacement that's worse than the original problem.

or no replacement at all in the case of the Cap Vs Skull for me :redface:

Hellboy
06-23-2007, 10:24 PM
Well if it bothers you that much I say send it back otherwise it will always nag at you. Personally I'd just repair it myself and be cool with it but I can totally understand not wanting to do that. And considering the prices we pay for these collectibles you really shouldn't have to.

BigLeagueChu
06-23-2007, 10:29 PM
That's a tough call for me too. I would probably keep it :)

Zoyvod
06-23-2007, 10:30 PM
considering the prices we pay for these collectibles you really shouldn't have to.

Exactly send it back if that is acceptable by Sideshow standards then they should be sending touch up kits. Then if they did that I don't think they would be around long. I know it would pop a bubble in my day I don't pay for chips I pay for quality.

sheople
06-23-2007, 10:33 PM
Overall the piece is fantastic.

I gues when you can fix your own it doesn't seem that bad, sorry about bilittling your pain

We're cool :thumbs2:

I can barely see a problem in that pic. Is the chip on the meat of the thumb?

It's on the lining of the glove.

Well if it bothers you that much I say send it back otherwise it will always nag at you. Personally I'd just repair it myself and be cool with it but I can totally understand not wanting to do that. And considering the prices we pay for these collectibles you really shouldn't have to.

I will call SS on Monday to see if I can get a replacement shield/arm. If I can't get one then I will attempt the repair or just leave it because it's not noticeable.

punisher129
06-23-2007, 10:35 PM
the new symbol for SS should be $$.


---PUNISHER KILLS THE MARVEL UNIVERSE---

Underdog07
06-23-2007, 10:39 PM
Well, my first thought is - SS did I good job if that is the only damage. Second, return it. If it takes off in value you will never be able to sell it if necessary without disclosing the defect. What seems petty and minor now will realyy piss you off when it costs you $300 later.

But wait until I get my caps to inform SS because I don't want you taking any of my potential replacements

Black Cat
06-23-2007, 10:42 PM
Sorry to hear about your Cap and very sorry to hear that it ruined your day after all the excitement

toe
06-23-2007, 10:53 PM
sorry to hear about the chip :(

you can send it back but there is a big chance that you would not get a replacement at all. You can also contact sideshow if perhaps they have an extra arm of exclusive instead of sending the whole thing back.

ghettoenhanced
06-23-2007, 10:56 PM
I'll trade you a regular Cap in Mint condition...
:D

For real though, Aves Sculpt and Tamiya flat red would fix that no problem.
:peoples:

Zoyvod
06-23-2007, 11:07 PM
sorry to hear about the chip :(

you can send it back but there is a big chance that you would not get a replacement at all. You can also contact sideshow if perhaps they have an extra arm of exclusive instead of sending the whole thing back.

Honestly that mystifies me how can a company not have a back-up plan if damage occurs in transit from the plant to Sideshow or to the consumer? A consumers only recourse is to accept a big TS live with it or lose it? I can understand if a month goes by then that is the consumers problem, but if they immediately notify the manufacture asking for a replacement then that is what should be done. I can understand them wanting to look at it prior to issuing a new one, but damage is damage a chip or a break.

Underdog07
06-23-2007, 11:11 PM
sorry to hear about the chip :(

you can send it back but there is a big chance that you would not get a replacement at all. You can also contact sideshow if perhaps they have an extra arm of exclusive instead of sending the whole thing back.

Honestly that mystifies me how can a company not have a back-up plan if damage occurs in transit from the plant to Sideshow or to the consumer? A consumers only recourse is to accept a big TS live with it or lose it?

At this early stage that is not true at all - I returned a Grey Hulk in March 07 months after release and got a replacement.

sheople
06-23-2007, 11:19 PM
Yeah my day sucks now. I am a returning my Dr. Doom Exclusive for replacement (2nd time) and possibly the Cap.

Well, my first thought is - SS did I good job if that is the only damage. Second, return it. If it takes off in value you will never be able to sell it if necessary without disclosing the defect. What seems petty and minor now will realyy piss you off when it costs you $300 later.

But wait until I get my caps to inform SS because I don't want you taking any of my potential replacements

I don't plan on selling it.

sorry to hear about the chip :(

you can send it back but there is a big chance that you would not get a replacement at all. You can also contact sideshow if perhaps they have an extra arm of exclusive instead of sending the whole thing back.

That's what I am hoping for

I'll trade you a regular Cap in Mint condition...
:D

For real though, Aves Sculpt and Tamiya flat red would fix that no problem.
:peoples:

Sorry man, Only reason why I went with the exclusive is because of the FA theme.

Zoyvod
06-23-2007, 11:21 PM
At this early stage that is not true at all - I returned a Grey Hulk in March 07 months after release and got a replacement.

I am glad to hear that. I feel customer service is the first focus for any company. It frosts me quick when a consumer is not given what they deserve. A person who buys something for a $1 or a person who buys something for $1000 should be given the same courtesy no matter what the product is.

High Lord Apocalypse
06-23-2007, 11:27 PM
sorry to hear the bad news man. personally, i'd keep it and if you're not comfortable send it to someone that paints to match it the best possible.

also i don't think its worth the wait and hassle to get another for what seems to be a small chip to me. (thats just my opinion).

either way, i hope it works out man.

GangstaRoranous
06-23-2007, 11:33 PM
I could understand being upset about this chip. Although it is so small that I would probably just fix it myself. With SS you never know if the next one will be worse. Sad to say it but it's true.

Every time I open a package from SS I am literally scared of what I will find inside. Like today, my PF did not fit on the base properly. I was actually relieved it was not something worse. I just took out the hair dryer and went to town. You kind of have to be a semi-pro repair man to shop with Sideshow because of their lackluster QC.

High Lord Apocalypse
06-23-2007, 11:35 PM
I could understand being upset about this chip. Although it is so small that I would probably just fix it myself. With SS you never know if the next one will be worse. Sad to say it but it's true.

Every time I open a package from SS I am literally scared of what I will find inside. Like today, my PF did not fit on the base properly. I was actually relieved it was not something worse. I just took out the hair dryer and went to town. You kind of have to be a semi-pro repair man to shop with Sideshow because of their lackluster QC.

word!

rjb America
06-23-2007, 11:37 PM
for spending $300 that gives you a reason to be quote "anal", for $300 you should receive perfection!

noseeb13
06-23-2007, 11:45 PM
or no replacement at all in the case of the Cap Vs Skull for me :redface:

Same here :bawling:

Stef Jelos
06-23-2007, 11:49 PM
I don't see the problem...where is it?

ilas
06-23-2007, 11:52 PM
For the price that we pay for these things, we shouldn't be receiving damaged goods.


With that being said, this piece looks like it will definately be selling in the range of Iron Man and PF Doom. :thumbs2:

heykool69
06-24-2007, 12:17 AM
SS is sending me another WWII head to replace one of my broken helmet wing. I'm sure they can replace your shield.

High Lord Apocalypse
06-24-2007, 12:21 AM
SS is sending me another WWII head to replace one of my broken helmet wing. I'm sure they can replace your shield.

so then when you get your replacement head and sheople gets the shield, you guys can send me the damaged one and i'll find some use for it.:thumbs2:

sheople
06-24-2007, 12:31 AM
sorry to hear the bad news man. personally, i'd keep it and if you're not comfortable send it to someone that paints to match it the best possible.

also i don't think its worth the wait and hassle to get another for what seems to be a small chip to me. (thats just my opinion).

either way, i hope it works out man.

If SS doesn't send me a replacement piece then I might have to.

I could understand being upset about this chip. Although it is so small that I would probably just fix it myself. With SS you never know if the next one will be worse. Sad to say it but it's true.

Every time I open a package from SS I am literally scared of what I will find inside. Like today, my PF did not fit on the base properly. I was actually relieved it was not something worse. I just took out the hair dryer and went to town. You kind of have to be a semi-pro repair man to shop with Sideshow because of their lackluster QC.

I know how you feel.

for spending $300 that gives you a reason to be quote "anal", for $300 you should receive perfection!

Anybody that pays full price for anything should receive perfection.

I don't see the problem...where is it?

Are you serious :confused:

For the price that we pay for these things, we shouldn't be receiving damaged goods.


With that being said, this piece looks like it will definately be selling in the range of Iron Man and PF Doom. :thumbs2:

Looks like it to me.

SS is sending me another WWII head to replace one of my broken helmet wing. I'm sure they can replace your shield.

That's great news! You've just brought my frown upside down. :)

Mastermold
06-24-2007, 12:48 AM
On the positive side, the statue is beautiful. Very nice.

sheople
06-24-2007, 12:56 AM
On the positive side, the statue is beautiful. Very nice.

It's a keeper.

heykool69
06-24-2007, 01:14 AM
so then when you get your replacement head and sheople gets the shield, you guys can send me the damaged one and i'll find some use for it.:thumbs2:

all we need now is an extra WWII war helmet, and we got ourself an extra exclusive set to flip to people with the regular version.....ching:thumbs2: ching

sheople
06-24-2007, 01:25 AM
so then when you get your replacement head and sheople gets the shield, you guys can send me the damaged one and i'll find some use for it.:thumbs2:

lol I'll think about it.

kirthew
06-24-2007, 01:27 AM
I wont get my Cap until the 27th.. but I got my Bond... and I can't put him on the base because of the small pin they put in his shoe.. so I have to call Sideshow on Monday and find out if they have a replacement or not... Beautiful statue.. but one pin prohibits me from displaying it... kind of annoying.

Vracula
06-24-2007, 01:53 AM
OK!I thought it was serious.thats not that bad considered to other sideshow traversties

nemesisenforcer
06-24-2007, 04:04 AM
congrats bro and nice pics. what kind of camera you got?

Arioch
06-24-2007, 04:36 AM
I had the same problem with my Lurtz Pf : a chip on the glove/hand with the shield. Contacted Sideshow and they send me a replacement arm/shield.

sheople
06-24-2007, 04:41 AM
I wont get my Cap until the 27th.. but I got my Bond... and I can't put him on the base because of the small pin they put in his shoe.. so I have to call Sideshow on Monday and find out if they have a replacement or not... Beautiful statue.. but one pin prohibits me from displaying it... kind of annoying.

I know what you mean. Some SS pieces don't line up right like the wolverine comiquette.

OK!I thought it was serious.thats not that bad considered to other sideshow traversties

I had really High expectations for this piece to be flawless and to have it come not in perfect condition just made me a sad panda bear.

congrats bro and nice pics. what kind of camera you got?

Thanks! I rock a Canon 20D. I'm still new to the DSLR world. Messing with the F stops and ISO while using natural indoor light is tough when you don't have a tripod.

nemesisenforcer
06-24-2007, 04:46 AM
Thanks! I rock a Canon 20D. I'm still new to the DSLR world. Messing with the F stops and ISO while using natural indoor light is tough when you don't have a tripod.[/QUOTE]

thanks can you what DLSR, F, and ISO means? Sorry new to this stuff.

patman
06-24-2007, 05:09 AM
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/sheople/IMG_0414.jpg

acne scars on cap's face! now, that's detail. :)

geto10
06-24-2007, 05:40 AM
Sux about the chip. I hope SS will get you sorted. :)

Trilogy
06-24-2007, 05:53 AM
Sorry to see it has a chip but it could of been worse I guess. At least it can be easily painted over if you can`t get a replacement.

Banano
06-24-2007, 06:15 AM
Hi all,

I notice the stripes in your statue doesn't seem to be in the right place.....am i right??? I see more picture in another thread of Captain PF and the stripes seems to be in a different position... sorry to "bother" you again with your statue :(

Gilles

GangstaRoranous
06-24-2007, 09:09 AM
I wont get my Cap until the 27th.. but I got my Bond... and I can't put him on the base because of the small pin they put in his shoe.. so I have to call Sideshow on Monday and find out if they have a replacement or not... Beautiful statue.. but one pin prohibits me from displaying it... kind of annoying.

I had the same problem with Bond. You will most likely have the same problem if you get a replacement so meet your new best friend the thread I created. Hope this helps to fix the problem. It's a great statue. :thumbs2:

http://statueforum.com/showthread.php?t=51131

geto10
06-24-2007, 10:40 AM
Hi all,

I notice the stripes in your statue doesn't seem to be in the right place.....am i right??? I see more picture in another thread of Captain PF and the stripes seems to be in a different position... sorry to "bother" you again with your statue :(

Gilles

Looks the same to me.

BOWEN NUT
06-24-2007, 12:08 PM
Hi all,

I notice the stripes in your statue doesn't seem to be in the right place.....am i right??? I see more picture in another thread of Captain PF and the stripes seems to be in a different position... sorry to "bother" you again with your statue :(

Gilles

It might be the angle the picture is at that makes the center stripe look off. What I DO notice is that both need the belt rotated so that the belt buckle is in the center. Other than that... this thing is spectacular.

sheople
06-24-2007, 12:09 PM
Hi all,

I notice the stripes in your statue doesn't seem to be in the right place.....am i right??? I see more picture in another thread of Captain PF and the stripes seems to be in a different position... sorry to "bother" you again with your statue :(

Gilles

I think the stripes are wrong too

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/sheople/IMG_0389.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/sheople/IMG_0396.jpg

sheople
06-24-2007, 12:13 PM
thanks can you what DLSR, F, and ISO means? Sorry new to this stuff.

http://www.dpreview.com/learn/?/Glossary/Exposure/Aperture_01.htm

http://www.dpreview.com/learn/?/Glossary/Digital_Imaging/Sensitivity_01.htm

Iacon13
06-24-2007, 12:23 PM
Could you not just send the damaged piece back and keep the rest of the statue? Thats what I I did with my Sentinel piece. My head was damaged so I got replacement heads. Having said that I think they went back to production on that piece in order to deal with all the problems.

Alex655321
06-24-2007, 12:41 PM
Could you not just send the damaged piece back and keep the rest of the statue? Thats what I I did with my Sentinel piece. My head was damaged so I got replacement heads. Having said that I think they went back to production on that piece in order to deal with all the problems.

I suggested that to SS witht he Western GR when my flames on the base were damaged.
They required me to send the whole statue back.

moon_knight1971
06-24-2007, 12:53 PM
The statue looks great! A little chip like that would make me happy considering all the other QC incidents.

Iacon13
06-24-2007, 12:55 PM
I suggested that to SS witht he Western GR when my flames on the base were damaged.
They required me to send the whole statue back.

So it seems they have different rules depending on the situation. I had 2 heads sent back and forth. I would still suggest it after all you paid for it. They should be able to respect the requests of their customers.

wktf
06-24-2007, 12:55 PM
man that little chip is nothing I cannot believe some people are that anal

Rick, I don't know if this is being anal or not but I'm glad to see the red stripe down the center rather than the white stripe as pictured on the box. Stan Lee actually set a rule way back when that the center stripe on Cap's uniformed had to be red.

zoid2323
06-24-2007, 01:19 PM
Hi all,

I notice the stripes in your statue doesn't seem to be in the right place.....am i right??? I see more picture in another thread of Captain PF and the stripes seems to be in a different position... sorry to "bother" you again with your statue :(

Gilles

Stripes look fine to me.Looks like you just have to move the buckle a little to the right so its under the center stripe.

rilynil
06-24-2007, 01:34 PM
Rick, I don't know if this is being anal or not but I'm glad to see the red stripe down the center rather than the white stripe as pictured on the box. Stan Lee actually set a rule way back when that the center stripe on Cap's uniformed had to be red.
Wow! That is some impressive knowledge! It's never occurred to me that there was any rhyme or reason to Cap's red and and white stripes.

zoid2323
06-24-2007, 03:08 PM
Wow! That is some impressive knowledge! It's never occurred to me that there was any rhyme or reason to Cap's red and and white stripes.

If I remember correctly there was a lot of bit@#ing about that white center stripe on the prototype when pics first came out last year when it came up for preorder.Guess Sideshow listens to complaints afterall.

Vracula
06-24-2007, 03:17 PM
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/sheople/IMG_0414.jpg

WOW:buttrock: :buttrock:

Alex655321
06-24-2007, 04:39 PM
So it seems they have different rules depending on the situation. I had 2 heads sent back and forth. I would still suggest it after all you paid for it. They should be able to respect the requests of their customers.

I agree with you 100%

I told her I wasn't happy with that, and I told Aimee that I had no confidence with the replacement being damage free.
She told me she would give me 25% off what I paid to keep the statue.
So...I got $50 bucks back for a broken flame on the base that I just glued back.
Worked for me:thumbs2:

snappahead
06-24-2007, 04:58 PM
The stripes are not an issue with me. The HH Cap has a white stripe in the middle and I've never noticed until all this stripe talk came up. Who cares.

vetteman
06-24-2007, 08:20 PM
The stripes are not an issue with me. The HH Cap has a white stripe in the middle and I've never noticed until all this stripe talk came up. Who cares.When I am paying $350 for a piece of resin, I care. :thumbs2:

nemesisenforcer
06-24-2007, 10:12 PM
http://www.dpreview.com/learn/?/Glossary/Exposure/Aperture_01.htm

http://www.dpreview.com/learn/?/Glossary/Digital_Imaging/Sensitivity_01.htm

thanks

seymourito
06-25-2007, 04:32 AM
if i were u return it.... for satisfaction...

loricstone
06-25-2007, 05:46 AM
:stick: no



It's a Chip:bawling:

Sheople, come on man! Even with the pics you took I can't tell what the hell the problem is!? If you are referring to that little less than a mm white speck.........come on! I doubt you can even see that when it is displayed. Even if you were looking for it, you probably wouldn't be able to find it!

I only bother sending back items if something is really wrong with it. Well, if you noticed it, it must bother you, I just think something that miniscule can easily be overlooked.

loricstone
06-25-2007, 05:54 AM
When I am paying $350 for a piece of resin, I care. :thumbs2:

For a frikkin stripe?????? :confused: :confused: Man, all this anality has got to cease!

Domer
06-25-2007, 06:55 AM
if i were u return it.... for satisfaction...

Sure. Or have him prof. repaired and SS pays the costs for the repair.

snappahead
06-25-2007, 07:26 AM
When I am paying $350 for a piece of resin, I care. :thumbs2:

I think you missed my point. There is no hard and fast rule about Cap's stripe. I've seen it done a bunch of different ways by a bunch of different artists. If it were Spidey's web pattern or something, I could understand, but people being critical of SS for breaking a rule that doesn't exist.

detoyz
06-25-2007, 07:48 AM
that's it? a small tiny chip? :confused2

Poisonous
06-25-2007, 08:07 AM
that's it? a small tiny chip? :confused2

If you pay for a factory new piece of comic art, you should also receive it in a condition that is to your satisfaction. Simple.

I know SS QC might render you another flawed piece, but imo, that's no reason to not want a product as perfect as it can be. What each and one of us can and can not llve with when it comes to flaws is obviously highly induvidual, but a paint chip i can understand him not wanting to settle with.

darthmatrix
06-25-2007, 08:29 AM
I'd return it myself. I'm not paying for flawed peices(no matter how large or small the flaw) JMO

cougartrace
06-25-2007, 08:40 AM
The QC at Sideshow really needs to improve. It's getting too old and I'm not giving them a pass anymore. Too many other good companies out there to put up with this crap.

lord odin
06-25-2007, 08:46 AM
The QC at Sideshow really needs to improve. It's getting too old and I'm not giving them a pass anymore. Too many other good companies out there to put up with this crap.
I agree for the money being spent on these pieces the QC should be way better.
If these issues happened to Bowen there would be calls for Randy`s head along with Punisher`s.

Trilogy
06-25-2007, 08:53 AM
The QC at Sideshow really needs to improve.

I agree for the money being spent on these pieces the QC should be way better.

I concur.

Bullseye
06-25-2007, 09:42 AM
Especially as by the time it gets to me it will have cost $376.66.

Domer
06-25-2007, 09:49 AM
$383.08 to germany

Barbarian
06-25-2007, 10:03 AM
I've received so much worse from Sideshow before. That's pretty much nothing compared to this...
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k195/sparhawk71/bootFlaws.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k195/sparhawk71/capeFlaws01.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k195/sparhawk71/capeHole.jpg

GangstaRoranous
06-25-2007, 10:10 AM
the hole takes the cake man. I got a Magneto that was damaged too but that sucker went back so quick it was sickening.

Barbarian
06-25-2007, 10:18 AM
the hole takes the cake man. I got a Magneto that was damaged too but that sucker went back so quick it was sickening.

This was my replacement for another flawed Magneto. You would think they'd check out a piece quite a bit closer before sending it out as a replacement. I guess not. :thumbsdow

Domer
06-25-2007, 10:23 AM
I dont think that even one piece gets checked. Its cheaper to replace damaged stuff.

GangstaRoranous
06-25-2007, 10:28 AM
This was my replacement for another flawed Magneto. You would think they'd check out a piece quite a bit closer before sending it out as a replacement. I guess not. :thumbsdow

Honestly, I love Sideshow as a company. Great customer service and awesome products...usually. However, more often than not I receive things that definitely should not have passed through QC. I am so efficient at returning things it feels like my job sometimes.:laugh: The sad part is you don't know if what is coming as a replacement is going to be in worse shape. :(

I really hope that my Cap comes in perfect. Seems pretty consistent so far on the forums with only a few problems here and there, not like the Ghost Rider situation.

BigLeagueChu
06-25-2007, 10:32 AM
I dont think that even one piece gets checked. Its cheaper to replace damaged stuff.

That's for sure. They probably don't get many returns, other than the ones advertised on these forums. Just a guess.

GangstaRoranous
06-25-2007, 10:33 AM
That's for sure. They probably don't get many returns, other than the ones advertised on these forums. Just a guess.

I don't know. I know these forums can't be the standard because we are far too few but I honestly think SS gets quite a few returns. I am not even that picky and I send back most of my stuff. :)

BigLeagueChu
06-25-2007, 10:41 AM
I don't know. I know these forums can't be the standard because we are far too few but I honestly think SS gets quite a few returns. I am not even that picky and I send back most of my stuff. :)

I've had pretty good luck so far (but don't really order too much), but am really getting nervous about Cap arriving safely. And it baffles me that the replacement can be the same or worse than the first one. :confused:

GangstaRoranous
06-25-2007, 10:47 AM
I've had pretty good luck so far (but don't really order too much), but am really getting nervous about Cap arriving safely. And it baffles me that the replacement can be the same or worse than the first one. :confused:

It baffles me too. Sometimes I think I am getting returns as replacements. Maybe it's just my luck...it's pretty bad sometimes. :laugh:

Here is a list of recent problems.

Spiderman 1:1 = Some lines on head not painted. Weird white glob on base. Fixed all these myself.

Emma= Blotchy and smeared paint. Returned but got a messed up Emma print.

James Bond PF= Peg did not fit on base. Had to use the hair dryer trick.

Spiderman Vs. Venom Exclusive= Arrived with two broken fingers that had ALREADY been glued back on poorly. = Returned!

These are just the most recent QC problems. The statistics are crazy. My chances of getting a messed up piece are just so high. SS as a company needs to do something about this. I have never had to return a Bowen piece for QC issues.

cougartrace
06-25-2007, 11:06 AM
I've had to send back my last 3 or 4 statues. I hope CAP is good.

DetroitSportsFan
06-25-2007, 11:12 AM
Sometimes I think I am getting returns as replacements.

I suspect that is the case. And I also think some "second chance" or "warehouse finds" are returns.

Trilogy
06-25-2007, 11:18 AM
I suspect that is the case. And I also think some "second chance" or "warehouse finds" are returns.

I`ve always thought "warehouse finds" were returns, although not faulty returns.

Trilogy
06-25-2007, 11:28 AM
It baffles me too. Sometimes I think I am getting returns as replacements. Maybe it's just my luck...it's pretty bad sometimes. :laugh:

There would be no logic in Sideshow sending out items that have been returned due to faults.
Its probably a combination of Sideshows poor QC and bad luck.

As I`ve mentioned before in other threads, I`ve had very few pieces that have arrived with no faults. I`ve become accustomed to it and if I can fix it myself then I will. Saves weeks if not months of messing around waiting for replacements.

GangstaRoranous
06-25-2007, 11:39 AM
There would be no logic in Sideshow sending out items that have been returned due to faults.
Its probably a combination of Sideshows poor QC and bad luck.

As I`ve mentioned before in other threads, I`ve had very few pieces that have arrived with no faults. I`ve become accustomed to it and if I can fix it myself then I will. Saves weeks if not months of messing around waiting for replacements.

The only reason that SS would even consider sending out items that have been returned is that the next customer may not be as picky as the one who returned it.

I agree though. I have come to accept these flaws in SS products. They come with the territory and if I can fix them, I usually do instead of dealing with the return process.

wktf
06-25-2007, 01:10 PM
For a frikkin stripe?????? :confused: :confused: Man, all this anality has got to cease!

To each his own, man. If the costume's wrong I'm not going to fork out money for the piece. It'd bother me every time I saw it. Why live with that, especially at these prices? You spend your money where you like, I'll spend my money where I like. What do you care if we don't want to buy it?

snappahead
06-25-2007, 01:31 PM
To each his own, man. If the costume's wrong I'm not going to fork out money for the piece. It'd bother me every time I saw it. Why live with that, especially at these prices? You spend your money where you like, I'll spend my money where I like. What do you care if we don't want to buy it?

But it's not wrong.

Ink
06-25-2007, 01:50 PM
The stripes are not an issue with me. The HH Cap has a white stripe in the middle and I've never noticed until all this stripe talk came up. Who cares.

nope, the middle stripe underneath the star is suppost to be red. Good one SS:thumbsdow

Barbarian
06-25-2007, 01:53 PM
nope, the middle stripe underneath the star is suppost to be red. Good one SS:thumbsdow

That's not always true. Over the years, this has changed with the different artists and even different frames drawn by those artists. One such sample...
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k195/sparhawk71/Cap_america_v4-1.jpg

wktf
06-25-2007, 01:55 PM
But it's not wrong.

You're right. The costume's not wrong. But the promo shots of the costume are wrong and the image on the box is wrong. My point was that if the costume were wrong that would be enough to stop me from buying it, contrary to the point that was made about being too anal.

Bullseye
06-25-2007, 01:58 PM
Joe what do you think of this piece anyway? I cannot wait to get my exclusive.

Ink
06-25-2007, 02:14 PM
That's not always true. Over the years, this has changed with the different artists and even different frames drawn by those artists. One such sample...
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k195/sparhawk71/Cap_america_v4-1.jpg

well, the artist are wrong

bat_collector
06-25-2007, 02:16 PM
plenty of bowen stuff has been wrong and the masses ate that up

Barbarian
06-25-2007, 02:19 PM
well, the artist are wrong

Of course the famous inkfire00 knows better than the Marvel artists. :thumbs2:
I can come up with about a thousand more pics with the white stripe in the middle if you wish. :)

Barbarian
06-25-2007, 02:19 PM
plenty of bowen stuff has been wrong and the masses ate that up

Yup. See how some folks vote with their wallets? :)

lord odin
06-25-2007, 02:20 PM
plenty of bowen stuff has been wrong and the masses ate that up
Like baby blue Thanos FS.:banghead: :mad: :thumbsdow :puke2:

bat_collector
06-25-2007, 02:22 PM
Like baby blue Thanos FS.:banghead: :mad: :thumbsdow :puke2:

ex-freaking-actly!!!!!! they didn't even get the danged infinity guantlet right on that one. Where was the principaled "I'm not getting a wrong costume" there?

lord odin
06-25-2007, 02:26 PM
ex-freaking-actly!!!!!! they didn't even get the danged infinity guantlet right on that one. Where was the principaled "I'm not getting a wrong costume" there?
When I took it out the box I checked it for damage there wasn`t any and I put it back i`m never going to display that unless it`s repainted.

wktf
06-25-2007, 02:27 PM
Joe what do you think of this piece anyway? I cannot wait to get my exclusive.

The actual piece looks fantastic, bulls! :thumbs2:

wktf
06-25-2007, 02:27 PM
ex-freaking-actly!!!!!! they didn't even get the danged infinity guantlet right on that one. Where was the principaled "I'm not getting a wrong costume" there?

I didn't buy that one, either, Mike. Come on down off that high horse, cowboy.

Ink
06-25-2007, 02:31 PM
ex-freaking-actly!!!!!! they didn't even get the danged infinity guantlet right on that one. Where was the principaled "I'm not getting a wrong costume" there?

thanos was just a paint job which can be fixed, the cap PF is a design error that can't be fixed

lord odin
06-25-2007, 02:31 PM
I didn't buy that one, either, Mike. Come on down off that high horse, cowboy.
The lone collector rides again.:laugh:
Speaking of cowboys Joe I just read the first issue of the Lone Ranger last night it was great.:thumbs2:

Bullseye
06-25-2007, 02:32 PM
The actual piece looks fantastic, bulls! :thumbs2:

I agree J. Now we need an iconic Thor.:buttrock:

bat_collector
06-25-2007, 02:36 PM
I didn't buy that one, either, Mike. Come on down off that high horse, cowboy.

:laugh:

Ok, I forgive you on that one! lol

bat_collector
06-25-2007, 02:36 PM
thanos was just a paint job which can be fixed, the cap PF is a design error that can't be fixed

and lets not forget the hole in the butt!

lord odin
06-25-2007, 02:37 PM
I agree J. Now we need an iconic Thor.:buttrock:

I think it`s coming I wonder what the exclusive will be?
Bearded Thor,belt of strength,face mask,gauntlets:buttrock:

Bullseye
06-25-2007, 02:38 PM
BAT.

Ink
06-25-2007, 02:39 PM
and lets not forget the hole in the butt!

dude, a FS that big needs some kinda room, if it wasn't there it would've shattered

wktf
06-25-2007, 02:39 PM
The lone collector rides again.:laugh:
Speaking of cowboys Joe I just read the first issue of the Lone Ranger last night it was great.:thumbs2:

Cool! Glad you liked it. The trade comes out this Wednesday.

wktf
06-25-2007, 02:40 PM
I agree J. Now we need an iconic Thor.:buttrock:

Aye, verily!!! :buttrock:

wktf
06-25-2007, 02:40 PM
:laugh:

Ok, I forgive you on that one! lol

Oh, thank goodness. :laugh:

snappahead
06-25-2007, 03:36 PM
My point has alsways been that there isn't an error. I mean, why isn't anyoone complaining about the seams in his mask? That's not something that is usually there. Not until recent years. What about the millions of changes they made to the Doom design. It's just strange to me what people pick to complain about.

Vracula
06-25-2007, 03:39 PM
STRIPE GRIPE LOL!sheesh!

snappahead
06-25-2007, 03:42 PM
STRIPE GRIPE LOL!sheesh!

Yeah, maybe this is a big compliment to the piece. I mean, if all the collectors can find to complain about is this made up stripe debate, then this is one spectacular piece.

Barbarian
06-25-2007, 03:47 PM
STRIPE GRIPE LOL!sheesh!

Seriously. That's what I'm screamin'. MOVE ON!
The SS Cap vs. RS wasn't true to life(?), but I think it's one of, if not the, best Cap to date.

BigLeagueChu
06-25-2007, 04:00 PM
Seriously. That's what I'm screamin'. MOVE ON!
The SS Cap vs. RS wasn't true to life, but I think it's one of, if not the, best Cap to date.

Cap vs RS is definitely underrated, especially with the PF out now. But it's one of my favorites too.

Hellboy
06-25-2007, 04:05 PM
Really, who cares about how the stripes are placed. Cap has had many costumes and has been interpreted in many different ways. As long as those stripes are red & white I'm happy.

And yeah the Cap Vs. Skull piece is WAY underrated. The only Vs piece I like better is the X-Men Vs. Sentinel dio. :buttrock:

Trilogy
06-25-2007, 04:12 PM
STRIPE GRIPE LOL!sheesh!

:laugh:

Trilogy
06-25-2007, 04:15 PM
Yeah, maybe this is a big compliment to the piece. I mean, if all the collectors can find to complain about is this made up stripe debate, then this is one spectacular piece.

Unfortunately people always manage to find something to complain about, no matter how good a piece is.

Barbarian
06-25-2007, 04:15 PM
Really, who cares about how the stripes are placed. Cap has had many costumes and has been interpreted in many different ways. As long as those stripes are red & white I'm happy.

And yeah the Cap Vs. Skull piece is WAY underrated. The only Vs piece I like better is the X-Men Vs. Sentinel dio. :buttrock:

Word. I just happen to like the Wolvie vs. Sabre a bit more.

Hellboy
06-25-2007, 04:22 PM
Word. I just happen to like the Wolvie vs. Sabre a bit more.

Its close for me too but the amazingly detailed staircase in the Cap dio just squeaks it ahead of the Wolvie Vs. Sabre piece for me. :)

skorpsta
06-25-2007, 04:22 PM
take a sharpie to that!!

i soooo agree it will look fine. nice statue

duke fleed
06-25-2007, 04:28 PM
the sideshow cap is the best statue of this character ever made ....:buttrock:

Barbarian
06-25-2007, 04:29 PM
the sideshow cap is the best statue of this character ever made ....:buttrock:

Which one you like, the PF or the VS.?

BigLeagueChu
06-25-2007, 04:33 PM
Word. I just happen to like the Wolvie vs. Sabre a bit more.

Its close for me too but the amazingly detailed staircase in the Cap dio just squeaks it ahead of the Wolvie Vs. Sabre piece for me. :)

It's a close call, but I also like the W vs S a bit more. That's the piece that started it for me with SS, and I got the Ex off the waitlist too, woo-hoo :buttrock:

wktf
06-25-2007, 05:50 PM
Seriously. That's what I'm screamin'. MOVE ON!
The SS Cap vs. RS wasn't true to life(?), but I think it's one of, if not the, best Cap to date.

You guys are incredible. Who's not moving on? You guys keep coming back to it. The error's not even there on the actual piece and the piece looks great so there's no complaint...what the hell are we, in violent agreement or something?

Barbarian
06-25-2007, 05:50 PM
It's a close call, but I also like the W vs S a bit more. That's the piece that started it for me with SS, and I got the Ex off the waitlist too, woo-hoo :buttrock:

My first SS piece too. I've been livin' higher than I can afford ever since. :(

Barbarian
06-25-2007, 05:51 PM
You guys are incredible. Who's not moving on? You guys keep coming back to it. The error's not even there on the actual piece and the piece looks great so there's no complaint...what the hell are we, in violent agreement or something?

Yeah, it's over, eh. Unless we want to agree even more violently? :)

sheople
06-25-2007, 07:19 PM
Just got off the phone with the SS CSR. They told me to e-mail pics to them so they can determine if I need to return the whole thing or not.

Barbarian
06-25-2007, 07:20 PM
Just got off the phone with the SS CSR. They told me to e-mail pics to them so they can determine if I need to return the whole thing or not.

Sweet! Wasn't it just the one glove that was flawed? Perhaps it could be a quick and painless exchange.

sheople
06-25-2007, 11:02 PM
Sweet! Wasn't it just the one glove that was flawed? Perhaps it could be a quick and painless exchange.

The only problem that bugged me was the glove. There is another problem with the foot not fitting in the voltron head correctly but I can live with that.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/sheople/IMG_0406.jpg

You can kind of see a gap between his foot and voltrons head.

Bowen or Bust
06-25-2007, 11:25 PM
The only problem that bugged me was the glove. There is another problem with the foot not fitting in the voltron head correctly but I can live with that.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/sheople/IMG_0406.jpg

You can kind of see a gap between his foot and voltrons head.

Wow you got a Voltron head....send it back !!

duke fleed
06-26-2007, 12:51 AM
Which one you like, the PF or the VS.?

I prefer the PF, the vs show a lot of agressivity and hate, not the image of captain america for me.
It's a beautiful vs statue but the cap have too muscles he's too big.
The PF is well balanced he is best than the bowen first cap (this one was the best statue of cap for me before the sideshow).
In th vs statue my favorite character are red skull and the environment too.
:buttrock:

LoD
06-26-2007, 01:48 AM
Wow you got a Voltron head....send it back !!


:laugh:

sheople
06-28-2007, 05:21 PM
Just got an e-mail and my replacement arm should be on it's way.