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Bartholomew
08-12-2007, 11:51 PM
I screwed up on 2 conversions I was doing. For some reason the paint kept...shall we say beading off.

So I tried stripping it to start all over. I didn't know what to use so I soaked it in a whole bottle of laquer thinner for about 2 hours now. Before that dawn power dissolver, and before that some acetone. Got a lot of stuff off, but the primer doesn't want to come off the parts where I had used aves apoxy.

And most of the pieces look very gunky, and I can't seem to get it smooth again. :( :banghead: :banghead: :(

What to do?

Vince-Vell
08-13-2007, 12:10 AM
When you say you used Acetone, did you just apply it or submerge the kits into a thick container with the acetone in it?

What i do is get a nice durable container, somthing very thick. Poor the gallon of Acetone into the container and use latex rubber gloves (the stretchy kind) for my hands. ALso wear goggles and let it soak for about a minute. Then get a toothbrush and brush into those grooves. With enough soak and brushing you should get a nice clean kit.

Make sure the pieces you are using are not the white resin that 2fools or jesse has produced. Those will melt. Resin like bowen and moore will be find even if its soaked in acetone for 20min.

Then after that put the kits under cool running water and use some hand soap just to clean it up a bit. I take it a step further and use a drywall foam fine sand paper you can get at home depot. And just sand it in the running water. That clears up some of the dirty paint stains that might be on the kit.

Bartholomew
08-13-2007, 12:10 AM
sigh, I just want it smooth and ready to paint again.

Bartholomew
08-13-2007, 12:13 AM
When you say you used Acetone, did you just apply it or submerge the kits into a thick container with the acetone in it?

What i do is get a nice durable container, somthing very thick. Poor the gallon of Acetone into the container and use latex rubber gloves (the stretchy kind) for my hands. ALso wear goggles and let it soak for about a minute. Then get a toothbrush and brush into those grooves. With enough soak and brushing you should get a nice clean kit.

Make sure the pieces you are using are not the white resin that 2fools or jesse has produced. Those will melt. Resin like bowen and moore will be find even if its soaked in acetone for 20min.

Then after that put the kits under cool running water and use some hand soap just to clean it up a bit. I take it a step further and use a drywall foam fine sand paper you can get at home depot. And just sand it in the running water. That clears up some of the dirty paint stains that might be on the kit.

I just drizzled some acetone on and wiped it off.

The two kits i'm redoing are a Moore White Queen and a Mary Jane (the one from Diamond Select). Thanks, I've since removed it from the laquer thinner, still a gunky mess with paint stuck on here and there.

I'll try the acetone tomorrow.

Vince-Vell
08-13-2007, 12:18 AM
I just drizzled some acetone on and wiped it off.

The two kits i'm redoing are a Moore White Queen and a Mary Jane (the one from Diamond Select). Thanks, I've since removed it from the laquer thinner, still a gunky mess with paint stuck on here and there.

I'll try the acetone tomorrow.


Thats why its getting gunky. More or less what you did was melt/water up the paint again, moved it around and it dries up fast then clunks.

So far i have seen Acetone take off allmost all paints. Tis why i stay away from cars when doing it LOL.

Just make sure you dont use a fasy food cup or those red plastic cups. You want to use a nice rubbermade container thats like a half inch thick. Also plastic gloves are a nono, latex is what you want.

Guess i need to make a step by step next time i strip something down wit pics. :thumbs2:

Jesse321
08-13-2007, 12:18 AM
Make sure the pieces you are using are not the white resin that 2fools or jesse has produced. Those will melt. Resin like bowen and moore will be find even if its soaked in acetone for 20min.

Just for the record, I just soaked my Mon-el and my Isis in pure paint thinner today to remove primer on both of them, and they didn't "melt."

Bartholomew
08-13-2007, 12:20 AM
Thats why its getting gunky. More or less what you did was melt/water up the paint again, moved it around and it dries up fast then clunks.

So far i have seen Acetone take off allmost all paints. Tis why i stay away from cars when doing it LOL.

Just make sure you dont use a fasy food cup or those red plastic cups. You want to use a nice rubbermade container thats like a half inch thick. Also plastic gloves are a nono, latex is what you want.

Guess i need to make a step by step next time i strip something down wit pics. :thumbs2:


Thanks Vince! I'm report to ya how it's going. To think, this all wouldn't have happened if paint hadn't bleed under my tape.

Vince-Vell
08-13-2007, 12:22 AM
Just for the record, I just soaked my Monel and my Isis in pure paint thinner today, and they didn't "melt."

Paint thinner or acetone? I say that cause i tested my WW kit on acetone before i painted her up and didnt like the acetone much.

Plus when i say metled, it makes the resin super soft that can be dug out with your finger nail like doing it to a apple.

just want people to be carefull with acetone.

Bartholomew
08-13-2007, 12:24 AM
Paint thinner or acetone? I say that cause i tested my WW kit on acetone before i painted her up and didnt like the acetone much.

Plus when i say metled, it makes the resin super soft that can be dug out with your finger nail like doing it to a apple.

just want people to be carefull with acetone.

u think the diamond select white queen and mary jane would be ok?

I forgot to ask about aves apoxy. Does acetone eat through that and I would have to redo all my apoxy work?

Jesse321
08-13-2007, 12:26 AM
Paint thinner or acetone? I say that cause i tested my WW kit on acetone before i painted her up and didn't like the acetone much.
Paint thinner

And also for the record, the Wonder Woman wasn't cast by my regular caster. Saul painted my WW, and the caster shipped those pieces out direct (something that I'll never do again) so I never got to see the raw version until I got an extra for a friend of mine. I was just as surprised (and not very happy) as everyone else when I saw the raw version ... my other pieces aren't made of the same kind of resin.

Vince-Vell
08-13-2007, 12:31 AM
Paint thinner .. and the Wonder Woman wasn't cast by my regular caster, I was just as surprised (and not very happy) as everyone else was when I got an extra one for a friend of mine, because Saul painted mine, and the caster shipped those pieces out direct (something that I'll never do again) ... my other pieces aren't made of the same kind of resin.

Ahh ok then that would be why. Havent had any of your other kits in hand other then that one.

Any idea on what type of resin that was? Cause it brakes down with potent stuff like Acetone and would be nice to know. :thumbs2:

Vince-Vell
08-13-2007, 12:33 AM
u think the diamond select white queen and mary jane would be ok?

I forgot to ask about aves apoxy. Does acetone eat through that and I would have to redo all my apoxy work?



I am sure they will be fine, i dipped a few diamond items in acetone before.

Aves will survive in acetone too. When i stripped down a few customs i did that i messed up on in paints. The Aves was fine and held up better then resin. But i never let it soak more then 15min.

Jesse321
08-13-2007, 12:37 AM
Ahh ok then that would be why. Havent had any of your other kits in hand other then that one.

Any idea on what type of resin that was? Cause it brakes down with potent stuff like Acetone and would be nice to know. :thumbs2:
I have no idea what kind of resin was used on the WW, but you can feel that it's very porous, and not very sturdy stuff just by touching it (which is why I wasn't happy when I saw it) ... the rest of my kits are made of a really solid and heavier resin, which is why I only use the caster I'm currently using for all my kits. :)

Here's a picture so you can see the difference,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Jesse321/IMG_0431.jpg

the WW is about 1/2 the weight of the Dr. Fate.

FengShuiStein
08-13-2007, 07:56 AM
Thats why its getting gunky. More or less what you did was melt/water up the paint again, moved it around and it dries up fast then clunks.

Yeah, I've had the same problem when using Citri-Strip to strip the paint off something - the paint just clumps up all over in nasty sticky gobs, and if you try to rinse it under water, it gets nastier and stickier, LOL!! The water seems to neutralize the strpping action. It's best to wipe off as much as you can with paper towels while it's still "fresh", before you rinse it off.

-Phil

Vince-Vell
08-13-2007, 09:09 AM
I have no idea what kind of resin was used on the WW, but you can feel that it's very porous, and not very sturdy stuff just by touching it (which is why I wasn't happy when I saw it) ... the rest of my kits are made of a really solid and heavier resin, which is why I only use the caster I'm currently using for all my kits. :)

Here's a picture so you can see the difference,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Jesse321/IMG_0431.jpg

the WW is about 1/2 the weight of the Dr. Fate.


Ya that yellow resin is fine in acetone, but that white resin is more like a powder and lighter resin. So more or less if you got a resin kit and its a white resin like that and doesnt weigh much. Keep it away from acetone.

Bartholomew
08-13-2007, 03:10 PM
The lady at the drugstore wondered what I was doing with 6 bottles of nail polish remover.

So far it's done a better job than laquer thinner. There are many spots I still have to resand, but it's much much better than before. Thanks Vince.

oh yeah be careful with a sharp edges on your kit. It poked a hole through my gloves.