80's Beast WIP X-Men & Avenger

[Kdawg59]

Threw this together in a half an hour last night gang. Going for more of the John Byrne beast instead of the modern one with the sideburns etc...

More to come and I hope you like. It is gonna be really cool when I am done. :D

Like I said it was a half an hour so obviously there is much to do.

http://www.nitemarestudios.com/images/beast1.jpg
http://www.nitemarestudios.com/images/beast2.jpg

[Danno]

Off to a great start DAWG! I think the pose is neat!

[RickDTM]

Great choice of character and pose Kdawg!

[Kdawg59]

Thanks Dannomite and Rickalicious!!!

Angel Needs a pal. I was telling a couple of the fellas that I was putzing all weekend. Sculpting but not really with a direction while I wait for the wire mesh for Batman's cape. On a whim I decided "wouldn't beast be a cool character to sculpt? and the way he looked more back in the Byrne days?" I melted the material I was saving for batman's cape and ordered a new block of Castilene and went to town putting Hank together. He'll be bigger, he'll be hairier, but my goal was to capture the character as quickly if not quicker than I did Batman and I think I have.

You guys are too kind:) Thanks mi amigos...

[bat_collector]

Nice work Kdawg! :thumbs2:

[Kdawg59]

Thanks Mike...

It WILL be good work when I'm done. stay tuned... it'll be fun! I want to roughly put 5 pieces together this year for a portfolio. 2 DC, 2 marvel, 1 something else...

I will continue though to work and practice and bump one piece for another here and there... I have a long list of characters I want to do...

[hellspawn77]

SWEET!

Love the dynamics dude! I'm glad to see your still using Castilene!

...had me worried there for a minute.... :D


"Rickalicious"...hmmm... I like that. Makes me want to do naughty things to him... er...wait a sec.... :redface:

Claudio

[CKinSD]

looking good dawg. looking good

[Kdawg59]

SWEET!

Love the dynamics dude! I'm glad to see your still using Castilene!

...had me worried there for a minute.... :D


"Rickalicious"...hmmm... I like that. Makes me want to do naughty things to him... er...wait a sec.... :redface:

Claudio

Thanks CK, Claudio

Claudio that's Hilarious. It does have quite the connotation to it:) Rick is the man!!!

As for Castilene??? I can't give it up now. What's up with that? I tried to work with sculpey this weekend and I couldn't do it!!! I suck with super Sculpey :bawling:

As long as I can get quick enough with castilene, I guess I'll be okay!

I don't wanna give up on sculpey yet. It looks so cool in photos and stuff... Ah well I'll keep trying.

I want this beast to almost appear like he is a gymnast on a pommel horse, while moving similar to an ape (on his hands). we'll see if I can translate!!!

[hellspawn77]

As for Castilene??? I can't give it up now. What's up with that? I tried to work with sculpey this weekend and I couldn't do it!!! I suck with super Sculpey :bawling:

As long as I can get quick enough with castilene, I guess I'll be okay!



I know how you feel!

Man I SUCK with super Sculpey...even more then usual! :D

Can't use the Sculpey stuff anymore. I'm adicted to Azbro now too: man I LOVE that stuff!

Claudio

[Kdawg59]

Claudio. Isn't that the stuff that is used for action figures??? Isn't that even harder that Castilene???

There is a bunch of stuff I wanna branch out and try eventually! Chavant, Magicsculpt, Azbro...

But I think I will honestly keep coming back to the green mistress! I just don't have enough control and gentle enough hand to work with the pink lady right now. I hope I will though... Tony will kill me if I give up on SS!!!

[OneOne78]

Good start

[bat_collector]

Thanks Mike...

It WILL be good work when I'm done. stay tuned... it'll be fun! I want to roughly put 5 pieces together this year for a portfolio. 2 DC, 2 marvel, 1 something else...

I will continue though to work and practice and bump one piece for another here and there... I have a long list of characters I want to do...
Keith, I just cleared space for five statues on my shelves! :thumbs2:

[Kdawg59]

Thanks OneOne... It is little more than a sketch. I'll post more later...

Bats I'm sure if Bullseye is out there he'll be cleaning his shelf too:)

[Tattoo-X]

Looks great. :buttrock:
I think my wife will like this one.

[Perna]

Kdwang, that is one wicked pose perfect for the Beast. He looks like he's going to be killer. Awesome start!

[Kdawg59]

Thanks Tatt the wookie and T from the north:)

I worked on this some more at lunch today and It is gonna hopefully be a winner!!!

He needs a base though!!!

[JohnCleary]

Excellant job Keith! This will be awesome!

Whats the deal withSuper Sculpey? I tried using it again this week and i was like what the hell! It's too soft! So I guess I'll stick with casty. I think they must be making it softer. At least the batches I'm getting. Oh well. Keep up the awesome work dude! For a base, maybe some twisted metal or a rock. Perhaps a steel girder? Whatever it is it will look sweet. Good luck with all that fur. :)

[Fishsta]

oooooooo looking good, that pose is classic beast :buttrock: looking forward to the detailed process you like to show us all. Keep it up man, i can see that its starting to come more naturally to you. Right on

Rich

[hellspawn77]

Claudio. Isn't that the stuff that is used for action figures??? Isn't that even harder that Castilene???


Yes - that's the one!

Its great 'cause I rough out the figure in Hard castilene to a point where if I squint my eyes it looks done. Then I make a mold using alginate and cast my azbro pieces. Using a foredom wax pen I go a finish it up.

the great part is that it won't melt in your hands or soften up at all! You can even drill this stuff and the detail you can achive is incredible! Not to emntion being able to sand it as though it was plastic (it feels a lot like working with plastic..well sort of).

I find if I'm doing a sculpt in 1/6th scale or smaller of a female I HAVE to use azbro (or similar carving wax) as otherwise I can't get the castilene smooth enough. the most important thing about girl sculpts is that they are smooth.

On the other hand sometimes I will simply stay with castilene if I'm sculpting a male figure especially if I want him to look rugged and even "gritty" (like my Cable bust) as the texture in castilene adds to the affect...

On other occasions I'll use both Castilene and Azbro and make the flsh parts with Azbro and the clothing using Castilene to take advantage of each materials textures or ability to smooth...


Man this is a long post!

Claudio

[Collection King 13]

It looks like he is sitting on a big dump! :D

Great Start!

[JohnCleary]

Claudio - Thanks man! thanks for psoting about Azbro. I like the idea you can sand it to smooth. I will give that wax a try eventually.

How do you like working with a wax pen compared to heating your tools? How small of nibs do they have? Also do they have big nibs to smooth down your sculpt and carve it? I have thought about investing in one since I feel compelled to use wax exclusively. What kind do you have?

Once you go wax you never go back. :) I've tried SS and it isnt the same as it used to be. It's way to soft.

[Kdawg59]

Thanks John, Rich, King, Claudio...

John you are in the same SS boat I am huh? It's weird! I've gone all SS challenged!!!

You know what could be a really cool base for Beast to get him to a much larger height??? He is using the right arm to propel himself/ hold himself up. But he could possibly doing it on a Sentinel head... That might be wicked and something Perna would enjoy. Did you get your new torch yet John??? I used candles at first too and they really worked. when I started to use a lamp and torch I had to get used to them burning much hotter...

Rich. It really is coming more natural now. With each piece comes more speed and a bit better understanding. I will be anxious to see where I am after a year of sculpting is behind me. Hopefully I can turn some heads.

Claudio. I posted your measurements up as promised at the clubhouse in your thread... I think we were both a little off!!! THe males are roughly 10.25-10.75" tall for 6'1" male...

[Perna]

Thanks John, Rich, King, Claudio...

John you are in the same SS boat I am huh? It's weird! I've gone all SS challenged!!!

You know what could be a really cool base for Beast to get him to a much larger height??? He is using the right arm to propel himself/ hold himself up. But he could possibly doing it on a Sentinel head... That might be wicked and something Perna would enjoy. Did you get your new torch yet John??? I used candles at first too and they really worked. when I started to use a lamp and torch I had to get used to them burning much hotter...

Rich. It really is coming more natural now. With each piece comes more speed and a bit better understanding. I will be anxious to see where I am after a year of sculpting is behind me. Hopefully I can turn some heads.

Claudio. I posted your measurements up as promised at the clubhouse in your thread... I think we were both a little off!!! THe males are roughly 10.25-10.75" tall for 6'1" male...
My god man!!!!! A Sentinel head would be perfect!!!!!!! Now that you said it, you have to do it. That's the rules. :D

[Kdawg59]

Seriously T... It could be half in the dirt of something!!!

[Perna]

Seriously T... It could be half in the dirt of something!!!
I'm serious too. Throw some big rocks around the Sentinels head and it'll look like it got partly buried in battle. You gotta show some battle damage to the head.

[FengShuiStein]

Great start!! I have a friend whose favorite character is Beast, so he should get a kick out of this :buttrock:

-Phil

[Skulpturen]

I know how you feel!

Man I SUCK with super Sculpey...even more then usual! :D

Can't use the Sculpey stuff anymore. I'm adicted to Azbro now too: man I LOVE that stuff!

Claudio

What is Azbro? Is it bakeable?
Thanks,
Laszlo

[Kdawg59]

Thanks Phil!

I can't wait until I have my little photoshoot tonight so I can correct all that's wrong in the pose and make it even better.

Beast is a great character. I hate that they made him all Disney and such...

Bring back the John Byrne bubbly bouncing, Oh my stars and garters Beast!!!

Tony. Battle damaged it is!!!

[Skulpturen]

Threw this together in a half an hour last night gang.

Half an hour???? You are fast, man! Congrats!!

[hellspawn77]

Claudio - Thanks man! thanks for psoting about Azbro. I like the idea you can sand it to smooth. I will give that wax a try eventually.

How do you like working with a wax pen compared to heating your tools? How small of nibs do they have? Also do they have big nibs to smooth down your sculpt and carve it? I have thought about investing in one since I feel compelled to use wax exclusively. What kind do you have?

Once you go wax you never go back. :) I've tried SS and it isnt the same as it used to be. It's way to soft.

Hey John,

i like working with the wax pen a lot to tell you thetruith - it handles a lot better for detailing beause you can apply very minute applications of wax. They have a variety of nibs to choose from from very fine to spoon like spatulas.

i have a foredom wax pen which is really compact and inexpensive although very good: $189.00 USD. The tips are also a good price at $9.95 each. the nice thing about the Foredom wax pen is that the tips can be filled and sanded or shaped according to how you want seeing as they are made from high quality brass.

The tips are also inexpensive so they don't cost much to replace or buy in order to modify them. you can get them here: http://www.sculpt.com (look under "wax tools").

Hope this helps!

Claudio

[hellspawn77]

Claudio. I posted your measurements up as promised at the clubhouse in your thread... I think we were both a little off!!! THe males are roughly 10.25-10.75" tall for 6'1" male...

thanks man! I saw them... it really helped too :D

Claudio

[Kdawg59]

thanks man! I saw them... it really helped too

Claudio

But of course Claudio!!! Perhaps now you will take me on as your sculpting padawan apprentice :thumbs2: Teach me oh wax master...


Skulpturen... Danke. I know I will have much more time into Henry before he turns in a work of art, but my Angel took much longer to even get to this stage. I am discovering that sculpting is a lot like drawing and sketching... Keep it loose and find your lines later. Angel is something I look at and am very proud, but these new pieces... Batman, Beast are gonna shame him:).... I hope :peoples:

Photoshoot tonight!!!! Live model = Better fluidity:D = Happy artist!!!

[hellspawn77]

Photoshoot tonight!!!! Live model = Better fluidity:D = Happy artist!!!

SWEET!

time to break out the Leopard thong! :D

Claudio

[Kdawg59]

SWEET!

time to break out the Leopard thong! :D

Claudio


yeesh!!! I won't mention that to the dude as he would probably do it just to show his glutes!!! :thumbsdow

[hellspawn77]

yeesh!!! I won't mention that to the dude as he would probably do it just to show his glutes!!! :thumbsdow

Sorry Keith, to clarify- I was reffering to you wearing them while you took photos... I was asuming your model was nude anyways :D

:p

Claudio

[Bullseye]

Holy moses Kd, that is awesome. Your starting to increase your speed in a big way. Looking forward to seeing that progress. Maybe Bat Collector can set me up for an AP.

[Kdawg59]

Holy moses Kd, that is awesome. Your starting to increase your speed in a big way. Looking forward to seeing that progress. Maybe Bat Collector can set me up for an AP.

:D What you think Bats is my agent??? Can I set you up with an AP myself???:)

Stick with this one B- If all goes as planned it will be so cool!!! I'm waiting for Perna to give me sentinel reference for a base:)

Get your campaign hat on:)

oh and Claudio...you confused me because I never wear the leopard. It is always the canadian yeti!!!

[Bullseye]

Are you thinking of a bust or FS for the Sentinel?

[Kdawg59]

Are you thinking of a bust or FS for the Sentinel?

Beast will be on top of the sentinal head half burried in the ground amidst the rubble to get Beast higher up. He's only 6.5 inches high right now. The sentinel head should easily take him over 12"

[Bullseye]

kd I'm surprised that Bowen hasn't done similar things with his sculpts. Instead of ordinary bases use another character as the base.

[Kdawg59]

Well...

... He knows something we don't maybe...:)

I just know it would look cool visually:)

[Bullseye]

Well...

... He knows something we don't maybe...:)

I just know it would look cool visually:)

You diplomat. :laugh:

[hellspawn77]

Beast will be on top of the sentinal head half burried in the ground amidst the rubble to get Beast higher up. He's only 6.5 inches high right now. The sentinel head should easily take him over 12"

wow- that's going to be killer! I can't wait to see what you do with him.

I like the new beast from Astonishing X-men as well as the Uncanny X-men version with those cool goggles...

*Canadian Yeti keeps the boys warm - true story!

Claudio

[hellspawn77]

Deja-vu

Sorry double posted... :(

Claudio

[Ray Villafane]

Keith, you're going to be one of those sculptors like Tony and John C. , who can wip pieces outt left and right. I'm going to have to send some boys to rough you guys up a bit, making us slower sculptors look bad.

Great start keith.!

sculpey has great uses though, like when you're stressed and need a piece of clay to roll and knead in your hands. Feels good. For actual sculpting i am totally lost. I can't handle it gently enough.

claudio is on the path I want to get on. Casting stuff into wax from castilene. I think I definately will do that for my next small scale piece. Actually the wax of choice is Toxic Papas homemade stuff. Awesome!!! Flows through a waxer much better than azbro. I bought some from him and he even tinted it castilene green so I can mix the two when needede for different parts of the sculpture. Ralphs the man!!

[Kdawg59]

Claudio knows the yeti!!!:)

Ray when you refer to yourself as "slower sculptor's like me " everyone else should read it as I do...

"better, kickass, too talented to be anything less than Michaelangelo reincarnated, see you later teaching, hello choice-o project, sculptor's like me..."

I think I am in the same boat with sculpey now you dog you... Ever since that night I talked to you about castilene... my sculpey days were numbered. I have tried it again, but I suck. I have no touch with it. I like to carve and I can't shape. I like to pick it up and rotate a sculpt and to do that with SS I have to bake it and then realize how wrong it is and grind it all off... If I can get fast enough at capturing the "fluid sketch" it just makes more sense for me to use the wax. I too would like to try some azbro... Or even eventually Toxic Pops stuff.. Tony is turning over in his grave that the darkside has pulled me in... but I just can't help it!!! I SUCK with Super Sculpey. There I've said it!!!

I just had my photshoot with my Buddy Joe!!! Poor dude did squats last night and chest tonight... He could contort like Beast to save his soul. 40 shots of him though and hopefully it will be all I need to make the difference. great suggestion Ray on the live reference. I do it with illustration all the time... why shouldn't I for sculpting..

Bullseye... Me diplomatic??? Maybe. I'm a mod scum after all!

[hellspawn77]

claudio is on the path I want to get on. Casting stuff into wax from castilene. I think I definately will do that for my next small scale piece. Actually the wax of choice is Toxic Papas homemade stuff. Awesome!!! Flows through a waxer much better than azbro. I bought some from him and he even tinted it castilene green so I can mix the two when needede for different parts of the sculpture. Ralphs the man!!

So far its the technique I'm most comfortable with: roughing out with Castilene then casting and refining in toy wax...

I'm going to stay with straght castilene on larger stuff though and there is no need to use the toy wax unless its smaller scale. Still I would use Toy wax on 1/6th scale depending on the chracter as well... if I want a bit of gritty look to the piec then I will finish with just Castilene...

Man I'm tired...not being coherent...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Clauio

[Bullseye]

kd, you need to start posting more of your work on the Bowen thread. Most of the guys over there don't visit any of these other threads.

[Kdawg59]

Bulls as much as I would like to have BD pick up a piece, I won't post there. I think if a fan wants to then no one can stop that because they want to see it in resin, but myself, I feel I would be trying to self promote too much. I like my work but I'm a very small number of 1 bro:)

[Bullseye]

well when you get a little further on I'll post it. I'll take the credit too. :laugh:

[Kdawg59]

well I can't stop you bud, but my sculpts home is here in the "other"...:)

[Bullseye]

kd, Its been great watching you guys produce the awesome sculpts since I joined this forum. I've noticed however, that most of the people post on Bowens thread and not many actually look in on the Other thread. I might start a poll there.

[Kdawg59]

Our goal here is to have people branch out a bit. That's why I say my sculpts belong here. Right now every other sculptor's work should be here too if they are posting it. We are mulling over making it standard that if you are a sculptor there is one section to post in... Fans can and will inevitably post stuff in the BD section because they want to call out to RB to produce it, but if one sculptor does it, then everyone can and the BD section becomes a constant job interview...

People should venture out of the BD section. Although it is obviously the biggest draw here, there are some really sophisticated and cool sections set-up! You know what I'm talking about mr. Sideshow Cave Troll:)

[Bullseye]

Our goal here is to have people branch out a bit. That's why I say my sculpts belong here. Right now every other sculptor's work should be here too if they are posting it. We are mulling over making it standard that if you are a sculptor there is one section to post in... Fans can and will inevitably post stuff in the BD section because they want to call out to RB to produce it, but if one sculptor does it, then everyone can and the BD section becomes a constant job interview...

People should venture out of the BD section. Although it is obviously the biggest draw here, there are some really sophisticated and cool sections set-up! You know what I'm talking about mr. Sideshow Cave Troll:)

kd, started a poll to see if any of the Bowen knights check this area out.

[hellspawn77]

As Keith already mentioned i think its almost a bit "rude" to post sculpts in the BD forums as its almost like saying "Hey produce me!".

Don't get me wrong I'm not upset if people do it I just don't feel comfortable msyself posting my stuff on someone else's forum. I'm sure if the sculpt is nice people will take notice and post it there... can't stop what other people do! Also because its very flattering that someone likes your work enough to want BD to produce it... :D

*Gotta be KD!

Claudio

[Bullseye]

Claudio I can fully understand you sculptors not wanting to post your work. I just hope you don't mind if us mortals do it for you?

[hellspawn77]

Claudio I can fully understand you sculptors not wanting to post your work. I just hope you don't mind if us mortals do it for you?

Not at all!

I think the fans have every right to showcase soemthing they like an try to get it produced. I just don't think its the sculptors place to do so. Otherwise the BD forums become a job/promo forum where in fact they are supposed to be about BD's products...

Claudio

[Bullseye]

Agreed. I'm trying to get more of those guys over to look at your guys work.

[bat_collector]

:D What you think Bats is my agent??? Can I set you up with an AP myself???:)
I'm just a fan, not an agent. :thumbs2:

However, I do think it will be wise for kdawg to concentrate only on producing sculpts and let someone else worry about handing out the APs. I'll volunteer and take that responsibility. Its a dirty job, but someone gotta do it. I can't think of anyone else more qualified than me. :thumbs2:

[Bullseye]

I knew I could count on you BC.

[Kdawg59]

Agreed. I'm trying to get more of those guys over to look at your guys work.

Believe us when we say B-

we love it when you guys like our work and want to see it produced. It is the equivalent of us sculpting well for people to like pieces we create. Claudio is right though in that it just feels weird for us to self promo and post it there when there is a set section for it here... In the old forum we didn't have that comfort and so people posted sculpts there. It actually led to work for two really great sculptors in Ray and Erick. Hell it even worked for John Cleary to an extent... I don't know if Randy first saw your post of it or if John sent it over...

It's hard to explain and all I can do is speak for myself when I say if you wanna post stuff there as a fan... go for it. When sculptor's wanna post it should be here.

[Bullseye]

I suspect that JC sent pics to Randy directly kd, as Randy responded very quickly to my request for the Spidey to be done. Have you talked to him about producing Angel?

[Kdawg59]

I sent pics B- but I don't think RB is interested. I figure if he wanted it he may say something and he hasn't... No biggie I would love for someone to pick it up, but if not I'll save up and have Ray help me cast a few...

I will send him some more soon as well as beast and Batman pics...

[Bullseye]

Well Beast hasn't been produced and theres always DST. Your bound to be picked up soon kd.

[JohnCleary]

Heres the story on Spidey,

I did this piece as a project for fun. I had absolutely no intention of shopping it to be produced. It was simply meant to be the first superhero sculpt for my portfolio. I posted a couple of early pics on the old bowen site but the thread was deleted in less than a few hours by the forum admin. They didnt want artists showcasing work. I wanted Randy to see it and give me some constructive crits. He never saw it as far as I knew.

So I kept working on Spidey and about a month later decided to try and emailing the Bowen website. I didnt even know if Randy would see my email. I sent a few emails with pics and one day out of the blue he emailed and to my utter surprise he loved it and wanted to produce it. Problem was my sculpt was too big! I told him I would resculpt it smaller scale with his statues and I did. I then sent pics again and he still wanted to produce it! I was thrilled beyond excitement. And thats how Spidey came about. It was all just by luck of the draw. I created a sculpt and had alot of fun doing it and Randy saw the potential in it and offered to produce it.

My Wendigo came much about the same way. I sculpted it for fun showed Randy pics and he gave me some constructive crits and really loved it also. If Phase 3 happens hoefully it will also be produced.

I want to sculpt professionally like some of the greats, Cipriano, Villafane, Bergholtz,Bruckner etc and I'm hoping my Spiderman is just a start. I am going to bust my butt trying to achieve my goals and just have fun sculpting and do my best.

Later on!

[Kdawg59]

Heres the story on Spidey,

I did this piece as a project for fun. I had absolutely no intention of shopping it to be produced. It was simply meant to be the first superhero sculpt for my portfolio. I posted a couple of early pics on the old bowen site but the thread was deleted in less than a few hours by the forum admin. They didnt want artists showcasing work. I wanted Randy to see it and give me some constructive crits. He never saw it as far as I knew.

So I kept working on Spidey and about a month later decided to try and emailing the Bowen website. I didnt even know if Randy would see my email. I sent a few emails with pics and one day out of the blue he emailed and to my utter surprise he loved it and wanted to produce it. Problem was my sculpt was too big! I told him I would resculpt it smaller scale with his statues and I did. I then sent pics again and he still wanted to produce it! I was thrilled beyond excitement. And thats how Spidey came about. It was all just by luck of the draw. I created a sculpt and had alot of fun doing it and Randy saw the potential in it and offered to produce it.

My Wendigo came much about the same way. I sculpted it for fun showed Randy pics and he gave me some constructive crits and really loved it also. If Phase 3 happens hoefully it will also be produced.

I want to sculpt professionally like some of the greats, Cipriano, Villafane, Bergholtz,Bruckner etc and I'm hoping my Spiderman is just a start. I am going to bust my butt trying to achieve my goals and just have fun sculpting and do my best.

Later on!

John you will make it man. You sculpt great there's no denying those talented hands. You deserve to get produced amigo... Having fun on these pieces is the way to go. You are a good guy and good things are in store for you mister!!!:) Thank you for sharing your success with us here to. To be able to see a star being born is pretty cool to me!!!

[Sniper]

wow I hope I can get a whole collection of xmen, this one looks great . I have yet to add a beast full isxe because there is none out there that i like. I like the way it is starting out

[Kdawg59]

I hope to make some nice progress on his piece tonight. I took 40 photos last night of my model... He was a trooper trying to bend and contort like the Beast is not an easy task...

I will carve and bend and get it going!!!

[Kdawg59]

Come see me in the handy dandy new sculptor's corner section...

Just click here for the Dawg!!! (http://www.statueforum.com/showthread.php?t=5604)