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monel
12-03-2007, 03:08 PM
hey guys what is the best deal on HD player i can buy?
Bullseye
12-03-2007, 03:15 PM
hey guys what is the best deal on HD player i can buy?
Do you want a HD-DVD or a Blu Ray Player?
monel
12-03-2007, 03:23 PM
HD 1080P got B/R
Bullseye
12-03-2007, 03:25 PM
Is the Xbox add on 1080p?
cougartrace
12-03-2007, 03:26 PM
Is the Xbox add on 1080p?
I think it's 1080i, but I may be wrong.
Bullseye
12-03-2007, 03:27 PM
Then your looking at the higher end Toshiba. Not sure what thats selling for.
monel
12-03-2007, 03:28 PM
x-box is 1080i
cougartrace
12-03-2007, 03:28 PM
Thsi toshiba does 1080p:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8494499&st=hd+dvd&type=product&id=1186003898849
monel
12-03-2007, 03:43 PM
Thsi toshiba does 1080p:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8494499&st=hd+dvd&type=product&id=1186003898849
thanks this one looks great ....10 hd movies!!
thecallahan
12-03-2007, 04:43 PM
the 360 does 1080P. You just need to have the Elite Xbox and I think the Halo3 version because those have HDMI connections
Gruson
12-03-2007, 04:44 PM
Best Buy is not a good deal at all.
Best Deal out right now on A30.
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-HD-A30-1080p-DVD-Player/dp/B000U6AHYS/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1196714552&sr=8-2
10 free movies, no tax, free shipping.
$289.98!
You're welcome. :)
FYI,
You could get the A3 for $199 shipped from Amazon and save more. There will be no major differences between the A3 or A30 you know. (1080i vs. 1080p) Only minor ones.
Your HDTV set will take the 1080i signal and convert it to 1080p...dont waste money on the A30 IMO.
Discussed many times before.
Bullseye
12-03-2007, 07:08 PM
When your talking sub $400 you should get the 1080p player. Why skimp at that price.
monel
12-03-2007, 09:40 PM
Best Buy is not a good deal at all.
Best Deal out right now on A30.
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-HD-A30-1080p-DVD-Player/dp/B000U6AHYS/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1196714552&sr=8-2
10 free movies, no tax, free shipping.
$289.98!
You're welcome. :)
FYI,
You could get the A3 for $199 shipped from Amazon and save more. There will be no major differences between the A3 or A30 you know. (1080i vs. 1080p) Only minor ones.
Your HDTV set will take the 1080i signal and convert it to 1080p...dont waste money on the A30 IMO.
Discussed many times before.
thank you ...:buttrock:
Spatial.Archite
12-06-2007, 09:32 AM
When your talking sub $400 you should get the 1080p player. Why skimp at that price.
When talking about HD-DVD or Blu-Ray it's not really skimping, it's paying extra for something that's not really there. The reason is that films and TV shows are filmed at 24 frames a second, and TVs (at least in the U.S.) have a refresh rate of at least 60 hertz. Which means the TV refreshes 60 times a second, to compensate for the differential they use 3:2 pulldown (double the first frame, triple the second frame, double the third, etc...).
So there's not an increased resolution, or additional information, and it creates no issue for your TV to deinterlace it as it's already doubling or tripling each frame regardless of whether it's a 1080p or 1080i signal. As long as your TV correctly deinterlaces a 1080i signal, there's no difference.
Some players (I know at least one of the Samsung Blu-Ray players does this) actually interlaces the signal and deinterlaces it; so the deinterlacing step is there even with some 1080p players.
Now 1080p and 1080i are different when it comes to something like video games as video games can refresh at 60 frames a second, since the frames are not doubled, then tripled there could be a visible difference.
Bullseye
12-06-2007, 10:02 AM
When talking about HD-DVD or Blu-Ray it's not really skimping, it's paying extra for something that's not really there. The reason is that films and TV shows are filmed at 24 frames a second, and TVs (at least in the U.S.) have a refresh rate of at least 60 hertz. Which means the TV refreshes 60 times a second, to compensate for the differential they use 3:2 pulldown (double the first frame, triple the second frame, double the third, etc...).
So there's not an increased resolution, or additional information, and it creates no issue for your TV to deinterlace it as it's already doubling or tripling each frame regardless of whether it's a 1080p or 1080i signal. As long as your TV correctly deinterlaces a 1080i signal, there's no difference.
Some players (I know at least one of the Samsung Blu-Ray players does this) actually interlaces the signal and deinterlaces it; so the deinterlacing step is there even with some 1080p players.
Now 1080p and 1080i are different when it comes to something like video games as video games can refresh at 60 frames a second, since the frames are not doubled, then tripled there could be a visible difference.
You have a 1080i player and you have a 1080p player. The 1080p player costs maybe $200 more. I am not sure what the Toshiba pricing have been but as far as I am concerned not getting the 1080p player is skimping. This is next generation home cinema and buying the lesser player is not an option for me. I appreciate that not everyone can afford $400 for the high end Toshiba but they would be better off in the long run with that player.
cougartrace
12-06-2007, 10:11 AM
You have a 1080i player and you have a 1080p player. The 1080p player costs maybe $200 more. I am not sure what the Toshiba pricing have been but as far as I am concerned not getting the 1080p player is skimping. This is next generation home cinema and buying the lesser player is not an option for me. I appreciate that not everyone can afford $400 for the high end Toshiba but they would be better off in the long run with that player.
While I agree with you Bulls, from what I've seen there isn't much of a visual difference from the 1080p players against the 1080i players.
Bullseye
12-06-2007, 10:13 AM
There is a massive difference on a 50" Plasma. Maybe for 32" and lower.
cougartrace
12-06-2007, 10:15 AM
There is a massive difference on a 50" Plasma. Maybe for 32" and lower.
ahh..I've only seem them on LCD's
Bullseye
12-06-2007, 10:21 AM
I have no problem with 1080i or 720p for that matter. I have the HD-A1 player which I have viewed films on my Sony 32 LCD and its fine. But when there is a good deal on a 1080p player why not buy it.:) particularly when you want to watch movies on bigger screens. Big screens are dirt cheap in the US in comparison to Europe.
cougartrace
12-06-2007, 10:31 AM
I have no problem with 1080i or 720p for that matter. I have the HD-A1 player which I have viewed films on my Sony 32 LCD and its fine. But when there is a good deal on a 1080p player why not buy it.:) particularly when you want to watch movies on bigger screens. Big screens are dirt cheap in the US in comparison to Europe.
I forgot about the screen size and pixels. :banghead:
Spatial.Archite
12-06-2007, 11:08 AM
You have a 1080i player and you have a 1080p player. The 1080p player costs maybe $200 more. I am not sure what the Toshiba pricing have been but as far as I am concerned not getting the 1080p player is skimping. This is next generation home cinema and buying the lesser player is not an option for me. I appreciate that not everyone can afford $400 for the high end Toshiba but they would be better off in the long run with that player.
That's fine, I just wouldn't pay $200 extra to get the same image on my screen. A 1080p set doesn't display an interlaced signal; and there's no additional pixels or information (despite common belief) in a 1080p signal as opposed to the 1080i signal; just that every other line is refreshed... but when your TV doubles or triples every frame and refreshes the entire image at once... it's the same signal.
I'm sure there's other reasons to buy it, and perhaps it'll be a worthy investment when or if they ever start filming a 1080p signal that refreshes 60 times a second; but I seriously doubt that'll ever happen.
Bullseye
12-06-2007, 11:14 AM
That's fine, I just wouldn't pay $200 extra to get the same image on my screen. A 1080p set doesn't display an interlaced signal; and there's no additional pixels or information (despite common belief) in a 1080p signal as opposed to the 1080i signal; just that every other line is refreshed... but when your TV doubles or triples every frame and refreshes the entire image at once... it's the same signal.
I'm sure there's other reasons to buy it, and perhaps it'll be a worthy investment when or if they ever start filming a 1080p signal that refreshes 60 times a second; but I seriously doubt that'll ever happen.
I am always curious when people talk about budgets on a new format. When DVD was first introduced players where close to 1000 if not more. Only after the format was fully adopted did players prices reduce. There is no money to be made by CE companies selling machines below $100 at this early stage in the format adoption.
Early adoptors (and i would include everyone who has invested in the hi-def rormats at this stage) have always paid higher prices. Not too long ago 50" plasmas were over $10,000. Now they are much more afordable.
Hellboy
12-11-2007, 10:46 PM
Just noticed the price on the A3 shot up to $245.02. :eek: Thats the highest I've seen it. Better off going with the A30 for $3 more if the price stays this high.
Hellboy
12-26-2007, 04:26 PM
A3 is down to $163.88 with 10 free on Amazon. Best price I've seen.
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