Odin bust questions

[randy bowen]

OK- I've always wanted to sculpt Odin. Here's a couple questions:

1. Should he be slightly larger than Thor? I can't remember from the comics if he's larger of not.

2. What's the definitive Odin costume? (or artists style) He's different in just about every comic. (If you have favorite versions/visuals -Please email (jpgs)them to : heather@bowendesigns.com).

3.This is one I would probably sculpt without arms. Does this make any differene to you?

4. Would you have a problem if it were sort of a synthesis of different styles and costumes? (i.e.my own version)

Other thoughts? :wink2:

[Tattoo-X]

Tigra should be with arms, butt, and tail. :thumbs2: :eplus2:

Oh, you're asking about Odin. I'll have to get back to you on that. :D

[twisterred]

Definitely should be larger as the All-Father but in a stockier way instead of height. As for the costume look at the Beta Ray Bill run in Thor to pick a great one. No arms is the way to go and syntheize to your hearts content. He needs a helmut with some kind of horn(s) sticking out is the only thing I would mandate.

How about adding his ravens somewhere either on the base or have on his shoulder.

[bigben7]

well i think he should be larger than thor definitely , odin is the main man.as for arms, maybe arms crossed

[Meta Jon]

Can't say who's art I would like the most for this one but with regards to the sculpt I more than trust your judgement :buttrock:

[Ghost]

No arms I think is a great way to go Randy, and if it was a synthesis of your version I think that would rock. I'm not entirely familiar with him, so I can't say which costume would be perfect, but I like that idea. I can't wait to see this when the time comes!

[ol'canuckle]

I'd go with the look from the Beta Ray Saga....I always thought Thor was taller than Odin.....

[ol'canuckle]

Oh.. no arms would be classic look and I think help the flow of the display with the original Thor and soon BRB and BAT

[bat_collector]

Odin is winning my bust poll and now Randy talks of doing Odin?

I would like to think my poll had a little to do with this.

All you BOTH guys can thank me later. Am I officially in the club now?

[Ghost]

Haha, well better get started on the "Make an Exodus Bust" campaign then!!!

[ol'canuckle]

yeah Exodus would ROCK I'm with ya

[SirConor]

No arms is DEFINITELY the way to go Randy!! I'm excited about this one already. Admittedly, I'm not the best source of Odin-ness so we'll have to wait till someone like Dana gets on :)

W00t! Good choice!

[Tattoo-X]

I like this card done by Greg and Tim Hildebrandt.

[twisterred]

I like this card done by Greg and Tim Hildebrandt.


but with an eye patch

[Ghost]

I like this card done by Greg and Tim Hildebrandt.


Hell yeah I forgot I had that card. That would really work, he's really stout and large just not as tall as Thor.

[bat_collector]

Haha, well better get started on the "Make an Exodus Bust" campaign then!!!
You rock!

[DDura711]

I'll take Exodus before Odin.

[Ghost]

You rock!

:laugh: I just want an Exodus bad!


I'll take Exodus before Odin.

To tell you the truth, I would too. The kewlest Acolyte out there! But Odin would make a great addition...to the B.O.T.H. collections!

[twisterred]

ahem,....Black Goliath......

[insomniac]

I don't know if he is taller but he is definately wider than Thor.

[Sniper]

great news always liked the way the character looked!

[SirConor]

Yea don't hijack the thread you Exodus-lovers (I want an Exodus [badly] too). Odin will be SWEET

[Tattoo-X]

Dana would be proud of me.
How about these characters below?
Busts of Thunderstrike, Ulik, and Enchantress.
Full Size Beta Ray Bill.
Oops, how did those other two get in there? ;)
Since they're there, Julie Carpenter Spider-Woman has enough votes on my Poll to make her worthy of being done. :thumbs2:
Just put a trident in Namors hand, and that would be a great Mini-Scale Sub-Mariner statue. :thumbs2:

[Ghost]

Yea don't hijack the thread you Exodus-lovers (I want an Exodus [badly] too). Odin will be SWEET


Haha, Odin will be great!

[Tattoo-X]

Is this the Exodus you guys are talking about?
What's his history?

[Ghost]

Is this the Exodus you guys are talking about?
What's his history?

Hell yeah that's him! Bennet du Paris is his name, all I know is that he's been the leader of the Acolytes or Mags second in command. He's a telepath. He was always a visually stunning character.

[Tattoo-X]

Hell yeah that's him! Bennet du Paris is his name, all I know is that he's been the leader of the Acolytes or Mags second in command. He's a telepath. He was always a visually stunning character.
Back of the card says he's a mutant. Is he a X-Men villain?

[cyberpunk12]

Sweeeeeet! No doubt, Dana will pounce upon his keyboard when he sees this on Monday :D Glad to hear you have an interest in this one, Randymeister. Odin would be a great addition to the lineup (flanked by BA Thor and Beta Ray).

1. Should he be slightly larger than Thor? In my mind, YES. I picture him as a large, imposing character. He's the King of the Asgardian mountain and should look like he can bring the lumber.

2. What's the definitive Odin costume? (or artists style) He's different in just about every comic. I'm partial to Walt Simonson's Asgardian stylings. I'll have to break out the scanner and send in some pics.

3. This is one I would probably sculpt without arms. Does this make any difference to you? Perfect.

4. Would you have a problem if it were sort of a synthesis of different styles and costumes? (i.e.my own version) I like that idea... it would undoubtedly make him more fun for you to sculpt and that can only lead to good things.

bats- I think a Golden Hammer Award is in your future :D

[Ghost]

Back of the card says he's a mutant. Is he a X-Men villain?


Yeah he's a mutant telepath. And yeah, Magneto recruited him to replace Cortez after he betrayed Magnus. He was like a big devout follower of what Magneto believed in so he tried getting other mutants to join their cause up in Asteroid M/Avalon. So he lead the Acolytes to fight X-Force, X-Men, and so on.

[BobbyW]

I like the idea of Odin without arms. Arms should only be put on to show action relating to the character.

As for the look, I like the Simonson era; Beta Ray Bill, Surtur, Malekeith, etc.

[calvery18]

Yes, I would also think that Odin is wider not quite as tall as Thor as i remember
I like his ravens as an enhancement

[Ghost]

Yes, I would also think that Odin is wider not quite as tall as Thor as i remember
I like his ravens as an enhancement


Hell yeah his Raven on his shoulder or something.

Ron Burgundy: Great Odin's Raven!!!

[Thing]

Odin should be bigger than Thor.. Arms would be cool, crossed with his staff. An amalgam of styles sounds cool Randy... Cant wait to see a sketch....

[1logan]

Simonson style, raven, and no arms. About the size of Colossus bust, but wider. Oh and if you paint anything gold, dont do it like Captain Marvel bands, like silver with yellow over it.

[Thing]

Ok Randy, just checked my Marvel Universe Handbooks and it lists Odin as being 6'9 650 pds and Thor as being 6'6 640 pds....

[gman]

here are a few scans...the head piece on odin in the 1st book is key and in JIM #122, you get a sense of his overall look....

[Jesse321]

Definately larger than Thor .. HEAVILY HEAVILY influenced in the Walter Simonson style!

[OneOne78]

OK- I've always wanted to sculpt Odin. Here's a couple questions:

1. Should he be slightly larger than Thor? I can't remember from the comics if he's larger of not.

2. What's the definitive Odin costume? (or artists style) He's different in just about every comic. (If you have favorite versions/visuals -Please email (jpgs)them to : heather@bowendesigns.com).

3.This is one I would probably sculpt without arms. Does this make any differene to you?

4. Would you have a problem if it were sort of a synthesis of different styles and costumes? (i.e.my own version)

Other thoughts? :wink2:
Randy ask Dana P and the B.O.T.H. and you'll get more than what you bargained for :laugh:

[madjazz]

Ok Randy, just checked my Marvel Universe Handbooks and it lists Odin as being 6'9 650 pds and Thor as being 6'6 640 pds....
This makes sense. If you think about specific stories, Odin is usually sitting or lying down asleep. This could definately give off the impression that Thor is bigger, but it is not true. Thor just gets up off his fat @$$ once in a while! Odin is bigger.

I agree - go with a version heavily influenced by Simonson, but don't feel locked in by that. Borrow a little from all the masters. Eyepatch - yes!

No arms is fine - a natural display would have him in back of Thor anyway, and no arms will facilitate that.

[OneOne78]

This makes sense. If you think about specific stories, Odin is usually sitting or lying down asleep. This could definately give off the impression that Thor is bigger, but it is not true. Thor just gets up off his fat @$$ once in a while! Odin is bigger.

I agree - go with a version heavily influenced by Simonson, but don't feel locked in by that. Borrow a little from all the masters. Eyepatch - yes!

No arms is fine - a natural display would have him in back of Thor anyway, and no arms will facilitate that.
Sounds good to me.

[The General]

Odin has indeed smiled upon us. Thank you Randy! Are you squeezing him into this phase?

B.O.T.H. :buttrock:

[spider-man]

If your doing it randy I'm in also I would like a kirby style odin.

[Sniper]

If your doing it randy I'm in also I would like a kirby style odin.
:thumbs2: :thumbs2: :thumbs2:

[Mosby]

:thumbs2: :thumbs2: :thumbs2:


YEA, VERILY -- methinks the KIRBY STYLE ODIN SHALL BE THE BEST!

And another vote here for making the look a hybrid of your own design, Randy -- but, it's those early Journey into Mystery/Thor covers that GMan posted here that are, to many people, THE definitive look of Odin. I like Simonson, but KIRBY IS KING, BABY!

[Rome]

OK- I've always wanted to sculpt Odin. Here's a couple questions:

1. Should he be slightly larger than Thor? I can't remember from the comics if he's larger of not.

2. What's the definitive Odin costume? (or artists style) He's different in just about every comic. (If you have favorite versions/visuals -Please email (jpgs)them to : heather@bowendesigns.com).

3.This is one I would probably sculpt without arms. Does this make any differene to you?

4. Would you have a problem if it were sort of a synthesis of different styles and costumes? (i.e.my own version)

Other thoughts? :wink2:

Well I agree with the responses here Randy.
1)Yes,..absolutely Larger than Thor.
2)best (and Only) styles to choose from are Kirby, J.Buscema, and Simonson. an amalgram of those would be fine (Fancy Kirbyesk Head piece is essential) though
3)Without arms actually makes sense for him
4) Not not at all. In fact I think it would almost have to be your own version,as his "costume" changed with each new appearance..


Can't wait to get this one. Thank you

[Garrett]

I would dearly love to have a Odin bust I only voted for it in a poll the other day.

As to his hight compared with Thor is there not some statistics on them? I cannot find any myself but looking at some Marvel Masterworks copies of the old Thor, Odin does not look to be as tall as some of his subjects, yet I would imaging Thor to be as tall as any other.

One thing is for sure is definitely bigger in his girth.

[Ghost]

YEA, VERILY -- methinks the KIRBY STYLE ODIN SHALL BE THE BEST!

And another vote here for making the look a hybrid of your own design, Randy -- but, it's those early Journey into Mystery/Thor covers that GMan posted here that are, to many people, THE definitive look of Odin. I like Simonson, but KIRBY IS KING, BABY!

Kirby anything would be the best! That would rock! But Randy's stuff is the shizz so I'm game!

[The Watcher]

I hope Odin is depicted as a dark and brooding character if he is made into a bust. I also like the idea of ravens and maybe even an eye patch.

Ok Randy, just checked my Marvel Universe Handbooks and it lists Odin as being 6'9 650 pds and Thor as being 6'6 640 pds....

Sheesh! I didn't know Thor was that fat! 6'6 and 640 lbs.?

[Tattoo-X]

Odin has indeed smiled upon us. Thank you Randy! Are you squeezing him into this phase?

B.O.T.H. :buttrock:
I just checked Silver Surfers bust list. Odin is not on it. He's a "Mystery Bust" or Dana's been working over-time bugging Randy. ;)

[to me my board!]

Well I agree with the responses here Randy.
1)Yes,..absolutely Larger than Thor.
2)best (and Only) styles to choose from are Kirby, J.Buscema, and Simonson. an amalgram of those would be fine (Fancy Kirbyesk Head piece is essential) though
3)Without arms actually makes sense for him
4) Not not at all. In fact I think it would almost have to be your own version,as his "costume" changed with each new appearance..


Can't wait to get this one. Thank you

I agree with all of this and I think we need Dana to point out Odin's definitive costume - I'm sure Odin had a favourite that he wore more than most...

[to me my board!]

...and great news about Odin by the way Randy! :thumbs2:

[Comicboy]

WHOO HOO! The All Father! :buttrock: I like incorporating the Ravens. Maybe into the base?

[dr.doom]

Great news!!!I'd like a Odin bust with his golden armor,classic style or J.Romita Jr. style,absolutely larger than Thor.Without arms is ok for me,if with arms,I'd like his sceptre in his hand :)

[Dvdmac]

I like this card done by Greg and Tim Hildebrandt.

Great artwork, but he is too think there. I remember him being a wide stocky, imposing, taller than Thor character.

I will have to shoot off some digital pics

[Garrett]

Forgot I would like him with arms and ravens some where on the bust(sholder, arm or base).

[wallofsound]

No arms necessary, but I thought he was dramatically taller and larger overall than Thor. I've been assuming this would be in the same size as Giant Man, though I haven't read Thor for the past couple of years.

Ravens are a great idea!

[Collection King 13]

I think Odin will look great with or without arms!

[The General]

I think Odin will look great with or without arms!
Me too. :thumbs2:

[Bullseye]

Me too. :thumbs2:

What about a name plate? :D

[Tattoo-X]

Gotta have a big name plate. ;)

[The General]

What about a name plate? :D
Oh yeah! http://www.coolsmilies.net/food/beer.gif

[Leon]

WHO'S THE MASTER?
Sho-nuff!

[rychehitman]

Here are the thoughts I posted back on December 16th....

Ok, lets try this one on for size.....

If Randy asked YOU to pick the character for the suprise bust, what ONE character would you pick. Keep in mind marketability.

_____________________________________________________________


I would have to say Odin. Asgard, and Odin have played a large role in many classic Marvel Universe tales, and should be represented with his sons. I would like to see him sculpted with Ravens Memory and Thought perched upon his shoulders, the eye-patch, and Toothgnasher and Toothgrinder incorporated into the base along with Nordic Runes

[Hall of Justice]

He should be larger than Thor. I would go with the Kirby design from the "Trial of the Gods" storyline. If I can dig up those books, I'll send a picture.

[bruin218]

He should be larger than Thor.
I would say to Randy...have fun with this one, make it your own "synthesis" style.
After all, if you look at all the early Kirby Journey into Mystery/Thor issues, his costume styles tended to change issue to issue, sometimes panel to panel!
Bring on the All-Father!

[workingdog]

OK- I've always wanted to sculpt Odin. Here's a couple questions:

1. Should he be slightly larger than Thor? I can't remember from the comics if he's larger of not.

2. What's the definitive Odin costume? (or artists style) He's different in just about every comic. (If you have favorite versions/visuals -Please email (jpgs)them to : heather@bowendesigns.com).

3.This is one I would probably sculpt without arms. Does this make any differene to you?

4. Would you have a problem if it were sort of a synthesis of different styles and costumes? (i.e.my own version)

Other thoughts? :wink2:

1. Yes, Odin should be larger than Thor.
2. I don't think there's ever been a definitive outfit on Odin. Without a doubt, he's had more wardrobe changes than Janet Van Dyne. ;) I think it'd probably be best Randy if you did go with your own costume take.
3. I'd prefer no arms.

You do need the big bushy white beard. And as other have already mentioned, I think the eye patch "look" along with ravens on shoulders perched would be awesome. I fired off the pics below to Heather. (As you can see in the one, Odin is taller than Thor).

As always, thanks again for asking for our input, Randy!

[Mad4Busts]

Personally, I like the way Romita Jr. drew him in the Thor relaunch!! Or you can go with Simonson/Kirby.....

[The General]

I just received not so inspiring news. Looks like Odin might not get squeezed into this phase after all. Oh well. :( Phase III :buttrock:

[Daredevil]

Where did you get the info from, general?

[randy bowen]

He might- and he might not. Too early to say...

[Daredevil]

Will we ever see Dazzler busted by Bowen Designs, Randy?

[Perna]

I see Odin as being bigger then Thor in the sense that he's huskier and not having muscles as defined as Thors. He's definately wider.

[randy bowen]

Not a Dazzler fan. But you never know. I do like hot chicks though ...

[Tattoo-X]

Not a Dazzler fan. But you never know. I do like hot chicks though ...
Let's concentrate on Tigra please. ;)

[Daredevil]

Not a Dazzler fan. But you never know. I do like hot chicks though ...

Doh! Look at her, she's SMOKING!! :thumbs2: :thumbs2: We need more females in the collection, anyways

http://www.lexode.com/galerie/galerie_affiche_59215_0.html

[Tattoo-X]

Here's a hot chick. Has to be. Look at all that hair and fur. ;)

[randy bowen]

Wow! who is that charcter? She'd make a great bust!

[JR2]

Odin should be larger than Thor, he is the All-Father after all.

As far as the costume goes, I can't really remember one that was a definitive Odin. If I remember correctly, his garb changed frequently. (I'm sure B.O.T.H. will correct me on this if I'm wrong.)

Cool idea for a bust.

:thumbs2:

[Tattoo-X]

Wow! who is that charcter? She'd make a great bust!
Very funny Randy.;) :laugh:

How about that Namor Mini Scale in Phase 3? :D

[Daredevil]

Here's another hot chickadee - White Queen!

[Sniper]

Very funny Randy.;) :laugh:

How about that Namor Mini Scale in Phase 3? :D
you got her all worked up randy :laugh:

[Tattoo-X]

you got her all worked up randy :laugh:
Who you calling "her?"

[Tattoo-X]

Here I believe are some cards of Asgard characters, plus a little green FF villain.

[Sniper]

Who you calling "her?"
meant him , oh my

[Thing]

Oh No... Not the Impossible man......... :eek:

[wktf]

OK- I've always wanted to sculpt Odin. Here's a couple questions:

1. Should he be slightly larger than Thor? I can't remember from the comics if he's larger of not.

2. What's the definitive Odin costume? (or artists style) He's different in just about every comic. (If you have favorite versions/visuals -Please email (jpgs)them to : heather@bowendesigns.com).

3.This is one I would probably sculpt without arms. Does this make any differene to you?

4. Would you have a problem if it were sort of a synthesis of different styles and costumes? (i.e.my own version)

Other thoughts? :wink2:
As the Romita Jr picture showed, he definitely should be taller and broader than Thor.

I love the Kirby costumes with the big horns, like this one from "Thunder in the Netherworld."

No arms would look very regal, like the Roman and Greek busts of kings

Synthesize away, I love both Kirby and Simonson's Odin.

[Tattoo-X]

meant him , oh my
Figured you're easily confused, and thought it was my wife. :confused: ;) :laugh:

[madjazz]

Odin will be cool.

And now that this thread has disintigrated into tangent, here's the next hot chicks that need busts. And did I mention that one of them has a sword AND a spear? That one should get a FS. :eplus2:

[Mosby]

Randy -- don't know if someone already mentioned this, but it's very relevant info on Odin, so here it is:

I'm presuming you have "Bring on the Bad Guys" graphic novel that has the origins of some of the baddest boys in the Marvel universe? Well, in there is the origin of Loki. It's a great story. Anyway, there are a LOT of pics of Odin in there, since it was he who found little Loki and adopted him.

They're all by Kirby, of course, and look great. Let me know if you want me to get you some of those pages.

[Tattoo-X]

Oh No... Not the Impossible man......... :eek:
Oh yes, the Impossible Man.
He needs busted too. ;)

[madjazz]

Oh yes, the Impossible Man.
He needs busted too. ;)
Yes, by the fashion police! :laugh:

[MONSTER]

Let's concentrate on Tigra please. ;)

You really have a fettish for furry women. :laugh:

[madjazz]

You really have a fettish for furry women. :laugh:
I'm looking forward to meeting TattoX and TattooS next weekend. Of course I'll have to report back on THIS supposition. :D

[Tattoo-X]

You really have a fettish for furry women. :laugh:
Not exactly.
Just women.
Furry, rocky, green, or bald. :D

[StatueItis]

Odin gave up that eye in exchange for wisdom. So I would say the patch for sure unless he is the attention deficit Odin.

After looking through a bunch of Thor comics he is drawn sometimes about the same size as Thor but usually about half a head taller.

Odin with that thick beard, eye patch and massive build makes LOBO look like a geek.

[wizard-comics]

love most of the ideas here but he needs to be battle scared and the eye patch I think would make him stand out even more....

[Rome]

Not exactly.
Just women.
Furry, rocky, green, or bald. :D
Hey how bout a Moon Dragon bust?

[madjazz]

Hey how bout a Moon Dragon bust?
Bald AND green!

[dr.doom]

IPSE DIXIT!!!Welcome to this thread, Dana.We need the words of the most important Asgardian Bowenknight!!!I love your suggestion of the eye covered by armored piece.I agree about Kirby/Simonson (when you talk about Kirby and Simonson I always agree).However,the importance is to have BRB,BAT and now ODIN busts!!!
B.O.T.H.

[wktf]

Dana, couldn't agree more about the eye covering and the two ravens. As far as the Kirby head gear's being impractical, while that may well be for a normal humanoid character, Odin is the will, the way, the power. That he could hold his head high, his neck not even straining, with this massive head gear spoke to the power cosmic (as he described his power during a pitched battle with Thanos, though I choose not to think of the Odinpower as such) that courses through and within him.

To see him as such leaves one in greater awe of his might and power. In fact, it may be a telling sign of the Odinpower's righteous strength. Practical head gear when speaking of the Lord of Asgard? I'm not sure that should be a consideration.

With the eye patch and his faithful ravens, though, he automatically moves into Simonson territory.

[bat_collector]

Dear Lord! Eleven pages about a minor character?!? Is it just me, or does every Thor fanatic hang out on this board?

[wktf]

Minor character? Surely you jest!

[wktf]

I only wish Kirby were not so difficult to translate into 3D. You know that, as much as I have always loved Simonson's "Thor," I lean more heavily toward Kirby, despite the Coletta inking! Though, the bronze Hulk and Captain America show it's possible to turn Kirby into a FS sculpt!

[bat_collector]

wktf - bat_collector is still coming to terms with his conversion, so we must be gentle...

The raven(s) and eyepatch are must-haves! And Simonson used a great Kirbyesque helmet/headpiece, so an mostly-Simonson-inspired Odin would perfectly complement the BAT and BRB busts.
Dana P is intent on making me a true BOTH person. He is getting there.

I would get Odin, I'm just surprised how passionate you guys are about him.

[wktf]

Well, following a title for 40 years will do that to you.

[Endless Wake]

So I guess with Phase III almost secure, Odin will be getting busted.

[wktf]

Looks like it! By the bristling beard of Odin, one can only hope!!!

[toyzplz]

I don't have the time to go through all 11 pages of this post, but here's my 2 cents on which style:

The Walt Simonson era. I think it would be great for it to be armless! It would add to the classic feel of the character.

If this has been said and beaten to death (in 11 pages it probably has!), then I apologize for the repetition! But damn Odin need to be with my Thor!

[Daredevil]

I hope this is being done!

[boobhound]

Randy, let's see what is done..............you said 90% at one time! Surely you have progress pics!

[rychehitman]

I'd rather wait to just see
Odin up for order....I know it is going to rival Beta Ray Bill and Battle Armor Thor as the best bust ever made! :buttrock:

[wktf]

So say we all!!

For honor, for Asgard, for Odin!!

[Daredevil]

Sweeeeeet! No doubt, Dana will pounce upon his keyboard when he sees this on Monday :D Glad to hear you have an interest in this one, Randymeister. Odin would be a great addition to the lineup (flanked by BA Thor and Beta Ray).

1. Should he be slightly larger than Thor? In my mind, YES. I picture him as a large, imposing character. He's the King of the Asgardian mountain and should look like he can bring the lumber.

2. What's the definitive Odin costume? (or artists style) He's different in just about every comic. I'm partial to Walt Simonson's Asgardian stylings. I'll have to break out the scanner and send in some pics.

3. This is one I would probably sculpt without arms. Does this make any difference to you? Perfect.

4. Would you have a problem if it were sort of a synthesis of different styles and costumes? (i.e.my own version) I like that idea... it would undoubtedly make him more fun for you to sculpt and that can only lead to good things.

bats- I think a Golden Hammer Award is in your future :D

He's gotta be BIGGER than Sasquatch. He's the ALL-Father!!

Make this happen!! :buttrock:

[chromesamurai]

What if he were painted in such a way that it actually looked like an old marble Greek bust?

Just an idea...

[lord odin]

I'd rather wait to just see
Odin up for order....I know it is going to rival Beta Ray Bill and Battle Armor Thor as the best bust ever made! :buttrock:
Praise the lord.

[Jack8022]

1. Should he be slightly larger than Thor? I remember him being bigger than thor.
2. What's the definitive Odin costume? I don't think he has one. He's worn mostly Kirby-Style god clothes I think.
3.This is one I would probably sculpt without arms. Does this make any differene to you? Nah, not really but he should have an eye patch. Arrrgh!

4. Would you have a problem if it were sort of a synthesis of different styles and costumes? (i.e.my own version) go for the Kirby-Simonson mix and make everyone happy. Maybe put a raven on his shoulder.

[lord odin]

1. Should he be slightly larger than Thor? I remember him being bigger than thor.
2. What's the definitive Odin costume? I don't think he has one. He's worn mostly Kirby-Style god clothes I think.
3.This is one I would probably sculpt without arms. Does this make any differene to you? Nah, not really but he should have an eye patch. Arrrgh!

4. Would you have a problem if it were sort of a synthesis of different styles and costumes? (i.e.my own version) go for the Kirby-Simonson mix and make everyone happy. Maybe put a raven on his shoulder.
All good choices and maybe a change o eyepatch ;) :sly2:

[madjazz]

Lord Odin - Welcome back! I haven't seen you around here in a while.

If Randy's doing this one, you know it is going to be good. I have a feeling the first time we see this one is when it is put up for order, but you never know. (If you ask nice, you might be able to get him to let slip what the status on this one is, though. :) )

[sons of set]

An eye patch and Huginn and Muninn (the ravens) would be nice on each shoulder. Perhaps in one hand Odin grasping his glorious spear Gungnir? Thanks.

[wktf]

An eye patch and Huginn and Muninn (the ravens) would be nice on each shoulder. Perhaps in one hand Odin grasping his glorious spear Gungnir? Thanks.
Yes to all of this!

[rychehitman]

I ahve stated MANY times that the Odin mini bust MUST have the eye patch, the the ravens on his shoulders, and Toothgnasher, and Toothgrinder incorporated somehow in the base! A weapon is not a MUST...this is the ALL FATHER we are talking about. No arms and regal, or arms crossed and pissed!

[JadeGiant]

I ahve stated MANY times that the Odin mini bust MUST have the eye patch, the the ravens on his shoulders, and Toothgnasher, and Toothgrinder incorporated somehow in the base! A weapon is not a MUST...this is the ALL FATHER we are talking about. No arms and regal, or arms crossed and pissed!

I vote for pissed :buttrock:

[JadeGiant]

ryche - I feat that you've been hit over the head too many times with your Stormbreaker replica. Shake it off, man!

Toothgnasher and Toothgrinder are the goats that drive Thor's chariot. They don't make sense on an Odin bust.

Randy had talked about incorporating Yggdrassil, the World Ash, into the base.

An "armed" Odin makes sense, given that he holds his Scepter of Power. Arms crossed and pissed would be like most of the other, earlier "armed" busts. Too common, too boring.

Ravens on the shoulder would be a nice touch. Or at lease one. Or maybe they can be incorporated into the base as well. As for the eye patch, I'm all for that.


An Asgardian fight ... let me pull up a chair :laugh:

[Avenger]

An Asgardian fight ... let me pull up a chair :laugh:
Pass the popcorn :laugh:

[rychehitman]

Were the goats not given to Thor by Odin..? Werent they his to begin with...wait, am I getting them confused with the 2 wolves?


How about having MÃ-mir's well as part of the base! That would be very fitting indeed!

[wktf]

ryche - I feat that you've been hit over the head too many times with your Stormbreaker replica. Shake it off, man!

Toothgnasher and Toothgrinder are the goats that drive Thor's chariot. They don't make sense on an Odin bust.

Randy had talked about incorporating Yggdrassil, the World Ash, into the base.

An "armed" Odin makes sense, given that he holds his Scepter of Power. Arms crossed and pissed would be like most of the other, earlier "armed" busts. Too common, too boring.

Ravens on the shoulder would be a nice touch. Or at lease one. Or maybe they can be incorporated into the base as well. As for the eye patch, I'm all for that.
I say thee, aye! Yggdrassil, the World Ash would be perfect for the base. Too much would make it too cluttered and detract from the grandeur and the glory that is the All-Father.

Once this three way tag team is done I'll take some popcorn over here, too.

[rychehitman]

a combo would be fitting!

I just hope its a nice blend of both Kirby and Simonson! I have faith in Randy, he has much love for all things Asgardian!

[rychehitman]

wktf the resident Silver Age Sage chimes in. Excellent. What do you say, Joe? I have a feeling (or maybe it's more of a hope) that Randy will just put the Odin bust up for sale one day. That would be fun, and like old times. We haven't seen any Odin sneaks yet, correct? RB has simply written that Odin is about 90% finished. I don't recall any preliminary sketches or anything. I'm all for a surprise, and seeing the finished product, instead of sneaks. In this case, at least.


AYE VERILY! I would rather see the All Father up for sale on day then sneaked to death!

[wktf]

wktf the resident Silver Age Sage chimes in. Excellent. What do you say, Joe? I have a feeling (or maybe it's more of a hope) that Randy will just put the Odin bust up for sale one day. That would be fun, and like old times. We haven't seen any Odin sneaks yet, correct? RB has simply written that Odin is about 90% finished. I don't recall any preliminary sketches or anything. I'm all for a surprise, and seeing the finished product, instead of sneaks. In this case, at least.
I agree completely. One day the forum will be buzzing over the "Odin Bust on BD's Site" thread and there it will be, in all it's splendor and glory. The power and pageantry that is the All-Wise. In whatever blend of styles (and how can you go wrong with Kirby, Buscema and Simonson from which to chose) the Odin bust will beam with regal glory and greatness.

So say we all! :buttrock:

[madjazz]

Were the goats not given to Thor by Odin..? Werent they his to begin with...wait, am I getting them confused with the 2 wolves?

Mixing up the goats with the wolves? Sounds like you are at an al-Qaida orgy. :laugh:

[wktf]

'Nuff said.
Aye, verily. Now we say thee, Randy, show us the goods!!! :buttrock:

[wktf]

This thread deserves a....


BUMP!

http://underworld.fortunecity.com/blood/201/marvel/odin001.JPG

[boobhound]

Randy, we need pics of th All Father!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[riderV3]

Has to have Odin in collection!!!!!!! we just can never get enough of Asgradian!! Make our Thor a daddy, or he'll feel lonely! :rolleyes2

[wktf]

Dana, check post #138 again. That alright?

[Primal]

Still a no-show for me, I don't know why. But don't worry about it, good sir.

By the way, that image of Odin in that post that is deleted - that was quite nice.Fortunecity images are no good for direct linking.
Here it is. :buttrock:
http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/7683/odin0012pe.jpg

[Primal]

Glorious! Thanks Primal!No problem proud Dana. :buttrock:

[wktf]

Thanks, Primal. I did a search under Google Images. That's how I found that one.

[riderV3]

be honest....Odin will look much better without eyepatch.. :banghead:
eyepatch is a kind of stereo type symbol for bad guys...Odin shouln't have one... :inquisiti :spam: any one agree?

[firestorm]

be honest....Odin will look much better without eyepatch.. :banghead:
eyepatch is a kind of stereo type symbol for bad guys...Odin shouln't have one... :inquisiti :spam: any one agree?
NO eyepatch... and he should be outfitted in Kirby-drawn style... that's when he looked awesomely impressive and conveyed that sense of true POWER... a classic character should have that classic look...

[madjazz]

Eyepatch for sure. Look at your bust collection as a whole. Without the eyepatch, Odin does not stand out. WIth an eyepatch, he becomes a unique piece in your bust collection.

[Silver Surfer]

So if Odin is Thor's father, who is Thor's mother?

[wktf]

be honest....Odin will look much better without eyepatch.. :banghead:
eyepatch is a kind of stereo type symbol for bad guys...Odin shouln't have one... :inquisiti :spam: any one agree?
I completely disagree. His one eye is part of his character and his sacrificing of his eye was paramount to his attaining the wisdom that makes him the All-Wise. It's part of his character and who he is.

[Jesse321]

I completely disagree. His one eye is part of his character and his sacrificing of his eye was paramount to his attaining the wisdom that makes him the All-Wise. It's part of his character and who he is.Agreed 100%

[wktf]

So if Odin is Thor's father, who is Thor's mother?
And while Jord/Gaea is his "natural" mother, Frigga, Odin's wife, is his step mother and the one of the two for whom Thor feels the greatest parental love along with Odin. He's even referred to Frigga as "mother" on several occasions.

And, for a little Asgardian trivia, Frigga is after whom the day Friday was named, just as Thursday was for Thor, Wednesday was for Odin and Tuesday was for Tyre, the Asgardian god of war. The norse gods are part of our daily lives, whether we know it or not!

[JadeGiant]

I completely disagree. His one eye is part of his character and his sacrificing of his eye was paramount to his attaining the wisdom that makes him the All-Wise. It's part of his character and who he is.

Patch for sure!

[rychehitman]

Perhaps another industry first could be brought to us by Bowen Designs!

The Change-O-Patch!

Think of the Logan, and Nick Fury pieces we could have!

[JadeGiant]

Perhaps another industry first could be brought to us by Bowen Designs!

The Change-O-Patch!

Think of the Logan, and Nick Fury pieces we could have!

just do COH ... one with patch and one without ... good idea Ryche!

[Inception]

Perhaps another industry first could be brought to us by Bowen Designs!

The Change-O-Patch!

Think of the Logan, and Nick Fury pieces we could have!
:laugh: :laugh:

[wktf]

Nice, wktf.

By the way, in most of my readings of the myths, it's Freya who provided the name for Friday, not Frigga (Fricka). There's a bit of contention regarding the duties of both goddesses, and some scholars believe that the two goddesses were originally one.
Intersting. From what I've read I've always interchanged Freya with Frigga, as Wodin with Odin or Herakles with Hercules. I actually wasn't aware that they may have been two separate godesses.

[masters of evil]

Stockier , not all that taller

[wktf]

I think stockier AND taller.

http://www.statueforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3809

[stormshadow75x]

He definitely needs a patch & some kind of fur tunic or cape, armor & he's got to be big.... he should have an imposing helmut something similar to Loki

I hope Randy takes a bit from the differnet styles.... can't wait to see th final product

No arms would be just fine

[Daredevil]

Make this happen soon, Randy!

[wktf]

Randy, any updates on this most expected of all busts?

[buchieboy]

whatever you sculpt randy, design it in a way wherein it can be put between beta ray bill and battle armor thor =)

[Caniac78]

Randy thank you so much for this odin we are about to receive.

dana p said

The raven(s) and eyepatch are must-haves! And Simonson used a great Kirbyesque helmet/headpiece, so an mostly-Simonson-inspired Odin would perfectly complement the BAT and BRB busts.

dana is right on.

add the world tree as the base and a one armed odin holding his scepter of power,

A must have, stocky but large.

I really wish you would make a full size sitting on his throne

[Sambofred]

I really wish you would make a full size sitting on his throne[/QUOTE]

I agree, a full size statue on a throne would be great; followed up over time by the 'Warriors Three' or the like to make something of a court scene. But to the other point.

I like the Romita Jr. Odin the best. When the series was relaunched and Odin was captured and beat down there was a panel that had Odin looking at his captures with grim determination in his eye. That is what would sell me on the bust. Scepters and all the extras, sure, cool. But the look. Odin is all about that look. Capture that look and you capture the feel of that character.

Well, thats my two cents. I will scan and send in that panel. Thanks for asking the question.

[rychehitman]

updates would be nice!

[spider-man]

this was like ten years ago wasn't it?

[pmpknface]

I thought the last update we had was that he was into it and then had to start over. I know that was somwheat the case with the Scorpion mb, but I thought it was the same w/ this one too. :(

Correct me if I'm wrong....

[VaultMan]

Dana P. posted some great pics from the Kirby era that were ideal for the MB. If push comes to shove, the pic in the OHOTMU isnt too bad. Just add the bird.

[wktf]

I thought the last update we had was that he was into it and then had to start over. I know that was somwheat the case with the Scorpion mb, but I thought it was the same w/ this one too. :(

Correct me if I'm wrong....

You're not wrong. We're all just wondering what's happened since that statement from Randy. :thumbs2:

[phnx75]

I thought the last update we had was that he was into it and then had to start over. I know that was somwheat the case with the Scorpion mb, but I thought it was the same w/ this one too. :(

Correct me if I'm wrong....

Not wrong, I think what he said (paraphrasing) was that he got frustrated at one point and threw the bust and was starting over.

[JadeGiant]

Odin on throne would be an awesome display for sure ... with the new Thor next to him would be amazing.

[Sniper]

Odin on throne would be an awesome display for sure ... with the new Thor next to him would be amazing.

that is the only way I would buy an Odin full size. THis may be a way to market the sculpt to those who are not as interested in the character

[JadeGiant]

that is the only way I would buy an Odin full size. THis may be a way to market the sculpt to those who are not as interested in the character

agreed - someone needs to get this done:thumbs2:

[VaultMan]

Odin on throne would be an awesome display for sure ... with the new Thor next to him would be amazing.

I agree...cant you just envision these pieces together...? Mindblowing...

[JadeGiant]

I agree...cant you just envision these pieces together...? Mindblowing...

we are talking "must-buy" if this comes out!

[rychehitman]

Lets get the MB out first, then worry about the FS! A Massive mb is what I am hoping for!

[wktf]

Lets get the MB out first, then worry about the FS! A Massive mb is what I am hoping for!

Me too! But not so massive that it won't fit on a riser on my shelf!

[Makkari1]

OK- I've always wanted to sculpt Odin. Here's a couple questions:

1. Should he be slightly larger than Thor? I can't remember from the comics if he's larger of not.

2. What's the definitive Odin costume? (or artists style) He's different in just about every comic. (If you have favorite versions/visuals -Please email (jpgs)them to : heather@bowendesigns.com).

3.This is one I would probably sculpt without arms. Does this make any differene to you?

4. Would you have a problem if it were sort of a synthesis of different styles and costumes? (i.e.my own version)

Other thoughts? :wink2:

With everyone giving their 2 cents about how Odin should look I guess I'll give mine. But opinions are like armpits, everyone has at least 2 and they both stink. Mine are as follows:

1.) Odin is 2"-3" taller than Thor and definitely wider.

2.) Odin has so many costumes, its hard to say which one was drawn the most. You would probably do well to make a synthesis of them all.

3.) I am not a big fan of MB's anyway, but if you had to do one, then it should have arms at a minimum. It appears that most posters on this board who like MB's are purist and want a no arm Odin. Why not offer a variant with arms and one without? Either way the fans win.

4.) The ravens on the shoulders is a good idea as well as him holding the scepter of power .

Randy I hope you that you give Beta Ray Bill, Odin, The Destroyer & Loki the full size treament. Especially The Destroyer which, IMO, is the sleeper piece of the year, who knew it would turn out so well. :D Other Asgardians that should have at least a MB are The Enchantress, Sif, and the Warriors Three, but hey thats just my opinion:D

[JadeGiant]

Lets get the MB out first, then worry about the FS! A Massive mb is what I am hoping for!

Bah, bring on the FS - that would be my preference:thumbs2:

mb would be cool also but the FS would be over-the-top awesome:buttrock:

[SirConor]

I'm excited about Odin, but I would have been more excited if he was armless. He IMO is one of the perfect pieces that Randy could have gone back to the glory days of phase 1 busts.

I understand wanting the scepter, but that could have been the base (like Mjolnir being Thor's base in the ARMLESS thor bust!)

[pablocruze]

Bah, bring on the FS - that would be my preference:thumbs2:

mb would be cool also but the FS would be over-the-top awesome:buttrock:

I would prefer BOTH!!!! :thumbs2:

[rychehitman]

Sad to say, I really dont see a FS anytime soon though....but the mb is a must!

[Zemo55]

Yeah & yippie -- Odin! Must have the eye patch and Huginn and Muninn on his shoulders! No arms, perfect. He's bulkier than Thor and a hair taller. Mix of Kirby and Simonson would be great. Yggdrasill worked into the based could really be something. Randy, you are a god!

[GoldNova]

No arms would be best. Typically gets a more regal result, which would suit Odin.

My preference is for no eyepatch. But it doesn't matter either way.

Ravens are fine. But preferably on the base. Might make the bust look too cluttered if they're on his shoulder.

I have no preference for style. Your correct in noting he always seems to look different. But please remember that some artists work do not translate well into busts. (So no Kirby art please, no matter how some of them beg for it.) The look should be Norse, regal, commanding and realistic. I hear a lot of call for the Simonson look. But even this leaves me wondering as to how realistic that would look. (Buscema's art always rocks.) I'm sure you'll come up with something.

Looking forward to him, whatever you decide. (As long as it's not an exclusive!)

[Mastermold]

Randy posted a while back that he wasn't happy with how it was coming and just smashed the whole thing and started over, so obviously it's important to him that it's done well and I'm sure we'll be very pleased with the finished product. :D

[HoldyourfireAl]

I think he should be a FS Silver Centurian Iron Man, but that's me.... ;-p

[The Fog]

Who?, I'd rather see a Grim Reaper FS.

[1logan]

I have been reading comics for 28 years! I was never a big Asguardian fan, but would definitely buy Odin. I think he needs the patch.....but I have always pictured him being massive like the size of the Sasquatch bust(which should have been bigger). Preferably Gold and Blue armor.

I can see how this one could stump Randy. My thing though is if Randy ever got to do Sif, Heimdall, Balder, or the Warriors 3 they would probably all have weapons in hand and here we would have a new Thor with hammer in hand and now Odin won't have arms at all.....strange. I can see Loki without them, although it would have helped express his devious side, and Enchantress MUST have arms. I didn't think Odin would need the arms, but now I kinda do.

My 2 cents.

[MyOldFriendMrMcCraig]

http://www.immortalthor.net/thor-353.jpg

I always loved this cover, so a minibust/FS based roughly on that pose and look (if FS, please feel free to give him pants), that would be cool. Particularly with gold tinted sorcery spheres around the hands...

[Mastermold]

http://www.immortalthor.net/thor-353.jpg

I always loved this cover, so a minibust/FS based roughly on that pose and look (if FS, please feel free to give him pants), that would be cool. Particularly with gold tinted sorcery spheres around the hands...

I think both hands coming forward like that would look silly. I'd want to see Odin in a more natural pose.

[King Kong]

I think both hands coming forward like that would look silly. I'd want to see Odin in a more natural pose.

Odin should be made either in Kirby's or Buscema version,
Walt Simonson version with all due respect Sucks.

[Caniac78]

I really think it needs at least one arm holding the scepter of power. Armless will look to much like a folding arms phase 1. A blend of styles would be best leaning towards the simonson era. Kirby to cartoony

Picture the new THOR FS next to ODIN on the throne FS, and a third piece of LOKI for the other side whispering in odins ear of standin against a pillar spying.

FS all the asgardians and their foes.

[MyOldFriendMrMcCraig]

FS all the asgardians and their foes.

Yes! Well, no, maybe not ALL of them...but definitely Odin, Loki, BRB, Enchantress, Executioner, Valkyrie, Sif, and a Deluxe Surtur...and I wouldn't be averse to the Warrior's Three, the Destroyer, Balder, Ulik, Karnilla, and Lorelei, either...and Hercules (although I like the HH version), Zeus, and Ares...and maybe Pluto...and the Eternals, can't forget about them, the Celestial Saga? Awesome Thor era, so Sersi, Thena, Ikaris, Karkas, Kro, Deluxe Celestial(s)...but I guess if ALL of them were made, that would mean all the ones I need would be made, therefore YES FS ALL of them!

[Makkari1]

Yes! Well, no, maybe not ALL of them...but definitely Odin, Loki, BRB, Enchantress, Executioner, Valkyrie, Sif, and a Deluxe Surtur...and I wouldn't be averse to the Warrior's Three, the Destroyer, Balder, Ulik, Karnilla, and Lorelei, either...and Hercules (although I like the HH version), Zeus, and Ares...and maybe Pluto...and the Eternals, can't forget about them, the Celestial Saga? Awesome Thor era, so Sersi, Thena, Ikaris, Karkas, Kro, Deluxe Celestial(s)...but I guess if ALL of them were made, that would mean all the ones I need would be made, therefore YES FS ALL of them!

Yes I agree do some Eternals:)

[blue_rogue]

Bowen Phase IV should offer an Asgardian MB every other month, and a full size every six months!

:buttrock: