Could Thors Hammer break Captain Americas shield?

[grandpa]

Could Thors Hammer break his shield?

[cougartrace]

I would say NO, but it could be more my bias for the Cap :)

[Jack8022]

No but it gave the shield a good dent when Cap jumped between Thor and Iron Man.

[rychehitman]

Well...this gets sort of complicated...

YES is one anser to go with...if Thor is powered by the Odinforce (not Thorforce), than nothing is going to stop Mjolnir.

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An argument for NO is the fact that Thor has subconsciously held back from using his true might on Midgard. However, this could be used as an argument for YES. If Thor is holding back and dents the shield...what would he do if he wasnt holding back?

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q265/rychehitman/thor/holdbackfullstrength.jpg

Another obvious way to justify YES is the fact that Thor has cracked open the armor of a Celestial. If he can do that with Mjolnir...there is no doubt he could destroy the shield.
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I just dont see the shield holding up against that kind of might!

Can I get a what-what? (Or a Joe Prize?)

[TK-421]

:rolleyes: Okay, so how the hell do you get all this within 15 minutes of the thread being started????
Do you have a database full of possible answers to possible Thor questions that might be asked at any given time??
You are such a Thor Nerd:thumbs2:

[IronFist]

I was gonna go with a snide way of saying "no", but geez, it's kinda hard to argue with that litany of evidence.

[rychehitman]

:rolleyes: Okay, so how the hell do you get all this within 15 minutes of the thread being started????
Do you have a database full of possible answers to possible Thor questions that might be asked at any given time??
You are such a Thor Nerd:thumbs2:

Man, you really know how to hurt a guy:confused2

:)

[Makkari1]

He could if he really really wanted to. With the Odin power has easily dented Caps' shield and I believe if he wanted to Thor could break Cap's shield. Thor tends to hold back a lot for fear of killing people. If Cap is holding the shield and Thor delivered a shield smashing blow Cap would not survive. This is why I think writing is so inconsistant Nothing really should stand up to a blow from Thor's hammer even if he's holding back but the story must go on.

[bat_collector]

Why not? The writer can manipulate anything to happen if you ask me.

[warhead]

Thanks Ryche. enchanted hammer made of uru metal forged by trolls wielded by the mightiest of the gods...you think.

[lord odin]

Yes he can he dented it and later in the same issue he fixed it back.

[VaultMan]

Yes he can he dented it and later in the same issue he fixed it back.

Thats BS. It absorbs impact, as well as part adamantium. No dent.

[TNovak]

Ryche knows his Thor, if he says yes, then I believe him.

[lord odin]

Thats BS. It absorbs impact, as well as part adamantium. No dent.
I agree but it`s true.:thumbsdow

[Tetragrammaton]

Doesn't Cap's shield pre-date adamantium?

[Teague]

Cap's shield is a vibranium-iron alloy, not adamantium. The shield pre-dates adamantium by a good decade or two (at least adamantium's introduction into the 616).

I do think that some comics have screwed up and called it an adamantium-vibranium alloy, but that's just wrong, so far as I know.

I think Cap's shield is insanely resilient, but the magic of the uru hammer, I think, could sunder it, especially with the Odinpower.

[Sledge Hammer!]

I'd say that if Thor really wanted to destroy Cap's shield that he concievably could do so, but the effort and force it would take to do such a thing in a single blow would probably unleash such devastation that he'd probably never dare unleash that much power in all in one supreme effort.

That's my story anyway, and I'm sticking to it. :p

[VaultMan]

Cap's shield is a vibranium-iron alloy, not adamantium. The shield pre-dates adamantium by a good decade or two (at least adamantium's introduction into the 616).

I do think that some comics have screwed up and called it an adamantium-vibranium alloy, but that's just wrong, so far as I know.

I think Cap's shield is insanely resilient, but the magic of the uru hammer, I think, could sunder it, especially with the Odinpower.

Teague is right! (excerpt from Wikipedia, with the correction about the OHOTMU)

The circular shield most associated with Captain America made its debut in Captain America Comics #2 (April 1941). A convex metal disc approximately 2.5 feet in diameter, it is virtually indestructible and has remained his most constant shield over the decades.

Again through retroactive continuity, it is established that the shield was presented to Rogers by President Franklin D. Roosevelt.[1] The shield is created by an American metallurgist named Dr. Myron MacLain, who had been commissioned by the US government to create an indestructible armor material to aid the war effort. MacLain experiments with vibranium, an alien metal found only in Wakanda that has unique vibration absorption properties.


Captain America vol. 5, #5 (May 2005). Cover art by Steve Epting.During one of his experiments to fuse vibranium with an experimental iron alloy.[2]. MacLain falls asleep and awakens to find the experiment a success. However, this is due to an unknown catalyst entering the process during his slumber, and he is unable to duplicate the result. The vibranium-iron alloy mix is then poured into a mold for a tank's upper hatch to create the disc shape and painted to become Captain America's symbol.

Rogers' indestructible shield was long referred to, even in canon comics history, as being composed of an adamantium-vibranium alloy. This is not the case: Adamantium is only developed after Rogers is revived from suspended animation, during MacLain's later experiments to try and duplicate the material of the shield. Adamantium makes its first appearance in Avengers Vol. 1 #66, July 1969.

The adamantium-vibranium error first arises in the Captain America entry in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (the composition of the shield was described in the adamantium entry as "vibranium-iron") and is propagated in several subsequent stories by writers using the Handbook as a reference. The error is corrected in Captain America #303–304 (March–April 1985), which establishes that the shield is made of vibranium and an "experimental iron alloy", but that did not prevent the error's repetition over the years.

The vibranium in the shield is what absorbs virtually all of the kinetic impact from any blows that the shield receives, allowing it to withstand incredible amounts of force without injuring Rogers in the process. The vibranium is also a factor in the way Rogers throws his shield: he often uses it to ricochet around a room and strike various opponents with little loss of velocity in its forward movement after each impact.

When Rogers returns from suspended animation, Tony Stark "improves" the shield by incorporating electronic and magnetic components in it so that Rogers could even control it in flight. However, Rogers soon discards the additional components because he finds that it upsets the balance of the shield when thrown, which is Rogers' ultimate preference.

During his early years in the Avengers, when it is not firmly established that the discus-shaped shield is indestructible, the shield is destroyed or lost several times in the comics, to return with no explanation. It is eventually retconed that these are steel replicas, with the actual shield being borrowed by Stark for analysis and returned to Rogers later.[citation needed]

After Rogers' death, Stark takes over custody of the shield, with a replica being buried with Rogers. After failing to find a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent capable of throwing it properly, Stark offers the shield to Clint Barton, who does manage to throw it but declines Stark's offer to become the new Captain America. The shield is subsequently stolen by the Winter Soldier, who did not want anyone else to carry the shield.

[heirtoasguard]

yeah but ryche, you fail to mention that when Thor
broke thru Exitar he was wearing his belt of strenght.
which doubles his strenght. I think that Thor could
probably break it. back in the #60's of the Avengers
when Adamantium first came out, Thor did dent it.
obviously when Thor had the Odinpower he could easily break it.

[VaultMan]

Thats BS. It absorbs impact, as well as part adamantium. No dent.

I was wrong. :(

[ratchet]

I just remember when Thanos shattered it in two hits in the Infinity Gauntlet.

[riderV3]

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q265/rychehitman/thor/THOR%20VS%20CELESTIALS/thor38809hc7vscelestial.jpg
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these 2 pages are amazing!! :thumbs2:
anyone know who did the pencil work for this issue??

[rychehitman]

I will tell you if you reveal but ONE of your 26 secrets!:thumbs2:



Written by TOM DeFALCO and illustrated by RON FRENZ. Collected from THOR #387-389

[pendragon]

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these 2 pages are amazing!! :thumbs2:
anyone know who did the pencil work for this issue??


Looks like Ron Frenz

[JadeGiant]

Teague is right! (excerpt from Wikipedia, with the correction about the OHOTMU)

The circular shield most associated with Captain America made its debut in Captain America Comics #2 (April 1941). A convex metal disc approximately 2.5 feet in diameter, it is virtually indestructible and has remained his most constant shield over the decades.

Again through retroactive continuity, it is established that the shield was presented to Rogers by President Franklin D. Roosevelt.[1] The shield is created by an American metallurgist named Dr. Myron MacLain, who had been commissioned by the US government to create an indestructible armor material to aid the war effort. MacLain experiments with vibranium, an alien metal found only in Wakanda that has unique vibration absorption properties.


Captain America vol. 5, #5 (May 2005). Cover art by Steve Epting.During one of his experiments to fuse vibranium with an experimental iron alloy.[2]. MacLain falls asleep and awakens to find the experiment a success. However, this is due to an unknown catalyst entering the process during his slumber, and he is unable to duplicate the result. The vibranium-iron alloy mix is then poured into a mold for a tank's upper hatch to create the disc shape and painted to become Captain America's symbol.

Rogers' indestructible shield was long referred to, even in canon comics history, as being composed of an adamantium-vibranium alloy. This is not the case: Adamantium is only developed after Rogers is revived from suspended animation, during MacLain's later experiments to try and duplicate the material of the shield. Adamantium makes its first appearance in Avengers Vol. 1 #66, July 1969.

The adamantium-vibranium error first arises in the Captain America entry in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (the composition of the shield was described in the adamantium entry as "vibranium-iron") and is propagated in several subsequent stories by writers using the Handbook as a reference. The error is corrected in Captain America #303–304 (March–April 1985), which establishes that the shield is made of vibranium and an "experimental iron alloy", but that did not prevent the error's repetition over the years.

The vibranium in the shield is what absorbs virtually all of the kinetic impact from any blows that the shield receives, allowing it to withstand incredible amounts of force without injuring Rogers in the process. The vibranium is also a factor in the way Rogers throws his shield: he often uses it to ricochet around a room and strike various opponents with little loss of velocity in its forward movement after each impact.

When Rogers returns from suspended animation, Tony Stark "improves" the shield by incorporating electronic and magnetic components in it so that Rogers could even control it in flight. However, Rogers soon discards the additional components because he finds that it upsets the balance of the shield when thrown, which is Rogers' ultimate preference.

During his early years in the Avengers, when it is not firmly established that the discus-shaped shield is indestructible, the shield is destroyed or lost several times in the comics, to return with no explanation. It is eventually retconed that these are steel replicas, with the actual shield being borrowed by Stark for analysis and returned to Rogers later.[citation needed]

After Rogers' death, Stark takes over custody of the shield, with a replica being buried with Rogers. After failing to find a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent capable of throwing it properly, Stark offers the shield to Clint Barton, who does manage to throw it but declines Stark's offer to become the new Captain America. The shield is subsequently stolen by the Winter Soldier, who did not want anyone else to carry the shield.

I was going to say yes even before reading all this but Ryche's supreme knowledge (nerdom) and the description above make it clear ... virtually indestructible means it can be destroyed ... surely the hammer would do the job:thumbs2:

[rychehitman]

I was going to say yes even before reading all this but Ryche's supreme knowledge (nerdom) and the description above make it clear ... virtually indestructible means it can be destroyed ... surely the hammer would do the job:thumbs2:

TWO Gorians got me in one day!:bawling:

[Teague]

TWO Gorians got me in one day!:bawling:

Nerd. :thumbs2:

[rychehitman]

Nerd. :thumbs2:

aw man...not the Professor too!:banghead: :(

[Teague]

aw man...not the Professor too!:banghead: :(

:laugh: Hello pot? Kettle here. You're black. :thumbs2:

[Meteor Man]

He could if he really really wanted to. With the Odin power has easily dented Caps' shield and I believe if he wanted to Thor could break Cap's shield. Thor tends to hold back a lot for fear of killing people. If Cap is holding the shield and Thor delivered a shield smashing blow Cap would not survive. This is why I think writing is so inconsistant Nothing really should stand up to a blow from Thor's hammer even if he's holding back but the stroy must go on.

Why not? I guess I've come to the end of my rope with VS conversations. Of course something could survive a blow from Thor's hammer. He is not the most powerful being in the cosmos, even with the Odin force. Odin isn't the most powerful being in the cosmos with the Odin force, so why would Thor be? This has nothing to do with me not liking Thor, I love Thor and think he is awesome!!! This has EVERYTHING to do with FAVORITES. We all have ours, and we will always vote for our favorite, so there you have the answer.... it just depends on who is writing the story....:(

Oh, and I agree that Thor could break Cap's shield. My above rant was just in response to the comment that Thor could break anything, that's all.

[rychehitman]

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[Argonus]

This is somewhat off-topic, but who can pick up Thor's hammer to begin with, besides Thor & Beta Ray Bill (I'd assume)? I was wondering this yesterday for some reason.

I would think at least Captain America could, right? I forget what the wording on the hammer is, but you have to be honorable and pure of heart or something similar, correct?

[lord odin]

This is somewhat off-topic, but who can pick up Thor's hammer to begin with, besides Thor & Beta Ray Bill (I'd assume)? I was wondering this yesterday for some reason.

I would think at least Captain America could, right? I forget what the wording on the hammer is, but you have to be honorable and pure of heart or something similar, correct?

Mjolnir (Marvel Comics)
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Mjolnir held aloft on the cover of Thor vol. 1, #494. Art by Mike Deodato Jr.Mjolnir (pronounced /mɨˈjoʊlnər/) is a weapon from the fictional Marvel Universe. This version of Mjolnir resembles a large short-handle hammer and is the favored weapon of Thor, the superhero and Thunder God. The hammer first appeared, along with the Thunder God, in Journey into Mystery vol. 1, #83 (August 1962).

Contents [hide]
1 Fictional history
2 Mjolnir's enchantments
3 Other wielders
4 Uses
5 Limitations
6 Other Versions
7 Imitations
8 References



[edit] Fictional history
Forged by Dwarven blacksmiths, Mjolnir is composed of the fictional Asgardian metal Uru, and has a strange stone-like appearance. On the side of the hammer is the inscription: "Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor." [1]

There are two versions of the origin of Mjolnir.

According to Norse myth, Loki the trickster cuts off the hair of the goddess Sif as part of a cruel jest. Threatened with grave physical harm by Thor, Loki escapes his fate by promising to fetch replacement hair from the dwarf smiths. Loki commissions the hair from the sons of Ivaldi and the obliging dwarves also make a magic ship and spear as gifts for the gods. Loki is convinced that no one can match their workmanship, and challenges a dwarf named Eitri to make finer treasures. Eitri first makes a golden ring; then a golden boar and finally begins work on a hammer. Loki begins to panic at the sight of the treasures, and fearful that he would lose the wager, transforms himself into a mayfly and stings Eitri's assistant on the brow as he is working the bellows for the forge. The assistant stops for a moment to wipe away the blood, and the bellows fall flat - the end result being that the hammer is shorter in the handle than Eitri had originally intended.

Despite this, the Norse gods consider Eitri to have forged the greater treasures, and in retaliation the sons of Ivaldi sew Loki's lips shut. Odin uses the hammer - called Mjolnir by Eitri - and eventually passes the hammer to his son Thor, who must first prove he is worthy to wield the weapon.[2]

Another version claims Odin orders the dwarven blacksmiths Eitri, Brok, and Buri to forge Mjolnir, using the core of a star and an enchanted forge. The forging of the hammer is apparently so intense it destroys the star and nearly Earth itself (possibly causing the extinction of Earth's dinosaurs, although this has not been proven). When Thor and Loki were still infants, Odin used the hammer in battle to slay Loki's father, Laufey. [3]


[edit] Mjolnir's enchantments
No living being can lift the hammer from the ground unless he or she is deemed worthy by Odin. However, the hammer can be lifted by machines, androids, or robots.
By throwing the hammer and then holding on its leather thong, Thor can voluntarily be towed by his weapon into the air and thus fly. Furthermore, he also able to control his velocity and direction in that position by unrevealed means.
The hammer returns to the exact spot from which it is thrown after striking its target. The hammer will also return to Thor's hand when summoned.
Its wielder may summon the elements of storm (lightning, wind, and rain) by stamping its handle twice on the ground.[4] It can also be used to manipulate the weather on an almost global scale, as Thor once did at Spider-Man's request to spread a chemical agent around the world to counteract another set of chemicals released by Doctor Octopus that risked destroying the ozone layer.[5]
Mjolnir is able to open interdimensional portals, allowing its wielder to travel to other dimensions, such as from Earth to Asgard. The hammer can also be used to create portals to travel great distances within the same dimension. [6]
The hammer enables Thor to transform into the guise of a mortal, physician Donald Blake, by stamping the hammer's head to the ground once. A provision of this enchantment requires that the hammer can not be out of physical contact of Thor for more than one minute without his spontaneous reversion to his mortal self. Fortunately, the hammer is small enough to carry in Thor's belt, and thus in physical contact with his body, when he wants both his hands free. When Thor transforms into Blake, his hammer takes the appearance of a wooden walking stick. When disguised, the hammer's enchantments limiting those who could lift it are not in effect. This enchantment was later transferred to Stormbreaker, the hammer of Beta Ray Bill. [7] Note that when Thor adopted the mortal persona of Jake Olson the stick was removed and Thor simply stamped his fist into the ground to effect a change.[8]
Previously, Mjolnir could be swung in such a way as to generate chronal displacement inertia enabling its wielder to travel through time. [9] This property, separate from the hammer's dimension-spanning ability, was removed by Immortus, with Thor's consent. [10] Thor, however, has since been shown to be able to stop time with Mjolnir. [11]

Other wielders
Mainstream Marvel Universe continuity:

Awesome Android[12]
Beta Ray Bill[13]
Buri (sometimes known as Tiwaz)[14]
Captain America[15]
Deadpool[16]
Eric Masterson[17]
Odin
Storm
Alternate realities"

Captain America[18]
Conan the Barbarian[19]
Crusader[20]
Dargo Ktor (Future Thor)[21]
Loki [22]
Magni [23]
Rogue [24]
Woden [25]
Marvel/DC crossovers: Mjolnir has been wielded twice by DC Universe heroes in crossovers:

Wonder Woman [26]
Superman due to emergency circumstances [27]

[Argonus]

Wow.. thanks, Odin. :)

[Makkari1]

Thats BS. It absorbs impact, as well as part adamantium. No dent.

Your disbelieving of the facts changes nothing. Denial is not a river in Egypt

[sons of set]

I feel that the hammer of Thor could not destroy the shield of Cap.

Vibranium is perfect element to use against a mighty weapon such as Mjolnir. Not only does Vibranium absorb impact it also handles kinetic energy.

Once struck, an object composed of Vibranium locks the energy within the anti-metal causing it to bond within the molecules of the Vibranium itself. The more energy directed at Vibranium the more resilient and tougher it becomes.

In the case of Thor, if he were to direct all his power at the shield of Cap he would in essence be defeating himself. No impact, no kinetic energy, no blow.

Even the force directed behind the blow would expand nowhere. Those in the area of Cap after the shield having been struck would also have nothing to fear.

Vibranium is an alien "metal", so even though it has been worked by human hands its original composition is still otherworldly...like that of the hammer of Thor.
If I recall correctly, dwarves forged the mighty hammer of the Thor - not gods, so...

Just a simple opinion. Thanks.

[lord odin]

I feel that the hammer of Thor could not destroy the shield of Cap.

Vibranium is perfect element to use against a mighty weapon such as Mjolnir. Not only does Vibranium absorb impact it also handles kinetic energy.

Once struck, an object composed of Vibranium locks the energy within the anti-metal causing it to bond within the molecules of the Vibranium itself. The more energy directed at Vibranium the more resilient and tougher it becomes.

In the case of Thor, if he were to direct all his power at the shield of Cap he would in essence be defeating himself. No impact, no kinetic energy, no blow.

Even the force directed behind the blow would expand nowhere. Those in the area of Cap after the shield having been struck would also have nothing to fear.

Vibranium is an alien "metal", so even though it has been worked by human hands its original composition is still otherworldly...like that of the hammer of Thor.
If I recall correctly, dwarves forged the mighty hammer of the Thor - not gods, so...

Just a simple opinion. Thanks.
And I agree.:thumbs2:

[Makkari1]

Why not? I guess I've come to the end of my rope with VS conversations. Of course something could survive a blow from Thor's hammer. He is not the most powerful being in the cosmos, even with the Odin force. Odin isn't the most powerful being in the cosmos with the Odin force, so why would Thor be? This has nothing to do with me not liking Thor, I love Thor and think he is awesome!!! This has EVERYTHING to do with FAVORITES. We all have ours, and we will always vote for our favorite, so there you have the answer.... it just depends on who is writing the story....:(

Oh, and I agree that Thor could break Cap's shield. My above rant was just in response to the comment that Thor could break anything, that's all.

You misread my post so I'll explain it to you. I said nothing "should" be able to stand up to Thor's hammer. What I mean by this is that based on the history of the hammer, Thor's power level and the physics of things most things should be smashed to pieces. If I hit you with a hammer you will feel it. If Thor hits a character in his class level they should be hurt as well and if he hits them with the intention of killing them, then they should be dead. Thor's uru hammer is supposed to be harder than adamantium so technically it sholud bust up most things.

With all this said the writing never allows for this to happen. If Thor goes around killing people then the stories will be "Boring". Thor's hammer is one of the most powerful weapons in the Marvel U but it has to be tonned down in order for the story to progess otherwise Thor would kill people with it all the time.

[Makkari1]

I feel that the hammer of Thor could not destroy the shield of Cap.

Vibranium is perfect element to use against a mighty weapon such as Mjolnir. Not only does Vibranium absorb impact it also handles kinetic energy.

Once struck, an object composed of Vibranium locks the energy within the anti-metal causing it to bond within the molecules of the Vibranium itself. The more energy directed at Vibranium the more resilient and tougher it becomes.

In the case of Thor, if he were to direct all his power at the shield of Cap he would in essence be defeating himself. No impact, no kinetic energy, no blow.

Even the force directed behind the blow would expand nowhere. Those in the area of Cap after the shield having been struck would also have nothing to fear.

Vibranium is an alien "metal", so even though it has been worked by human hands its original composition is still otherworldly...like that of the hammer of Thor.
If I recall correctly, dwarves forged the mighty hammer of the Thor - not gods, so...

Just a simple opinion. Thanks.

Yet you ignore the fact that King Thor did dent Cap's shield and then repaired it with the self same hammer.

[sons of set]

Makkari1, this is obviously a case of "Lackofwriteritis" or "Weneedaplotitis". This affliction occurs quite often in Marvel and was surely the case here.

Truly, we read it alot. Power levels constantly fluctuating, origin skewing, moral altering, death for effect...

In essence the properties and status of these items though sacred are morphed to suit the needs of the writer not the needs of the character. That...is a bloody damn shame. Thanks.

[Makkari1]

Makkari1, this is obviously a case of "Lackofwriteritis" or "Weneedaplotitis". This affliction occurs quite often in Marvel and was surely the case here.

Truly, we read it alot. Power levels constantly fluctuating, origin skewing, moral altering, death for effect...

In essence the properties and status of these items though sacred are morphed to suit the needs of the writer not the needs of the character. That...is a bloody damn shame. Thanks.

Oh I agree 100%

[GoldNova]

In the past I would have said no. For some 30 years, both Cap's shield and Thor's hammer were seen to be indestructible.

But with the advent of shock writers, nothing stays the same. Clearly, despite my belief that Thor should not be able to dent Cap's shield, with the Odinpower, he clearly did.

The really silly part was the fact that he was 'fixing' the dent afterward. Considering the force required to dent the shield in the first place, how do you simply 'buff out the dents'. Clearly, more magic was involved than raw power.

Having said that therefore, I do not believe it was strength alone that allowed the shield to be damaged. Clearly magic also had to be involved. How else do you explain it?

[warhead]

Shield is of this Earth, Hammer is not of this earth combined with the power of Thor add to that its enchantment, its a no brainer, Cap's shield is nowhere in the same league as Thor's hammer.

[VinReaper]

Shield is of this Earth, Hammer is not of this earth combined with the power of Thor add to that its enchantment, its a no brainer, Cap's shield is nowhere in the same league as Thor's hammer.

Agreed! Especially if he were wielded by destroyer as Thor Destroyer!!!!

He would powder it!!


VR

[Vartha]

:rolleyes: Okay, so how the hell do you get all this within 15 minutes of the thread being started????
Do you have a database full of possible answers to possible Thor questions that might be asked at any given time??
You are such a Thor Nerd:thumbs2:

B.O.T.H. are not nerds....just well informed.:stick:
You should see him go on the Thor Boards. :D

[Dan_Lebou]

The vibranium in the shield is what absorbs virtually all of the kinetic impact from any blows that the shield receives, allowing it to withstand incredible amounts of force without injuring Rogers in the process. The vibranium is also a factor in the way Rogers throws his shield: he often uses it to ricochet around a room and strike various opponents with little loss of velocity in its forward movement after each impact.

[/I]

If there's any physics experts here that would like to correct me then please do so but if the shield absorbs energy then wouldn't it cancel out the 'equal & opposite reaction' that would be required for the shield to ricochet off stuff? Surely the shield would hit something, absorb the energy that it was carrying when thrown, and then just stop and fall to the floor?

(This is a real enquiry and not nit-picking. I'm curious and would genuinely like to know...)

[Makkari1]

If there's any physics experts here that would like to correct me then please do so but if the shield absorbs energy then wouldn't it cancel out the 'equal & opposite reaction' that would be required for the shield to ricochet off stuff? Surely the shield would hit something, absorb the energy that it was carrying when thrown, and then just stop and fall to the floor?

(This is a real enquiry and not nit-picking. I'm curious and would genuinely like to know...)

That may not be 100% acurate. When kinetic energy is absorbed either the energy is redirected into motion or converted into heat and dispated.