Batman VS Iron Man

[AsOneDead]

Two of the biggest movies coming out this year, The battle of the billionaires, Who ya got?

[Léon]

Batman already has several movies, so defenitely Iron Man for me.

[Léon]

Oh yeah, I forgot, Marvel rules and DC sux! => Iron Man :buttrock:

[lord odin]

Batman

[hellboydce]

Batman

[adee]

Gah this is a tough one. I never go agaisnt the Bat, but I think this one is to close to call. I say it's an even fight that can go either way.

[AsOneDead]

Batman already has several movies, so defenitely Iron Man for me.

I meant the actual characters, not the movies.

[MrYac]

given all the other people you guys seem to think Bruce can handle i think it's guranteed he could handle a drunk with a bad heart in a tin can

[thecallahan]

Either way, I win :thumbs2:

[Quicksilver]

Bruce

[Teague]

Ah...I thought this was about the movies.

Honestly, I have higher expectations for Batman, but Iron Man just keeps drawing me in with some GREAT trailers. I'd be astounded (though pleasantly surprised) if Iron Man became the next great Marvel series, but it looks like a contender.

As for a mano-a-mano fight...how will Batman take out a guy who can just repulsor you from a distance? Batarangs ain't going to do much against IM's armor.

The only way Bats wins this is (as always) if he has time to plan.

[Tetragrammaton]

At the box office, I give the advantage to the Dark Knight.

I can really see this one going either way, but as hard as it is to vote against Iron Man for me, I have to give this one to Batman by a slight margin.

[Teague]

At the box office, I give the advantage to the Dark Knight.

I can really see this one going either way, but as hard as it is to vote against Iron Man for me, I have to give this one to Batman by a slight margin.

No doubt on the Bat-box-office returns. It was going to win even before being Heath Ledger's swan song; now, it won't even be a contest.

What's your reasoning as to how Bruce takes out Stark, Tet? I just don't see how Bruce overcomes IM's ability to devastate from distance.

[Tetragrammaton]

1. Tony's greatest asset is his armor, but this becomes also his main vulnerability. Find a way to neutralize it (EMP, virus, computer shutdown command) and the contest is over. I would say that Bats is tech savy and resourceful enough to find a way.

2. Batman has certainly successfully fought a host of opponents who outpower him. I think he can handle the range of capabilities that Iron Man can throw at him. While both are masters of the art of planning and preparation, I feel that Batman has a better record of success. I mean, have any of the Hulkbuster or Thorbuster armors actually beaten the Hulk or Thor?

[Teague]

1. Tony's greatest asset is his armor, but this becomes also his main vulnerability. Find a way to neutralize it (EMP, virus, computer shutdown command) and the contest is over. I would say that Bats is tech savy and resourceful enough to find a way.

2. Batman has certainly successfully fought a host of opponents who outpower him. I think he can handle the range of capabilities that Iron Man can throw at him. While both are masters of the art of planning and preparation, I feel that Batman has a better record of success. I mean, have any of the Hulkbuster or Thorbuster armors actually beaten the Hulk or Thor?

Both of these arguments totally make sense, but they both assume that Bats has time to take the measure of his opponent, determine how best to beat him, and then retire to the Batcave to prepare to make it happen. Given that scenario, though, Batman could beat anyone (one of the reasons I see him as one of the least realistic heroes). That's true of a lot of heroes, I guess, but it's Batman's main trick, it seems.

That's why, especially in a Batman battle, I never assume that Bats has time to study and plan. It becomes a foregone conclusion as to who'll win.

[HalJordanFan]

No doubt on the Bat-box-office returns. It was going to win even before being Heath Ledger's swan song; now, it won't even be a contest.

What's your reasoning as to how Bruce takes out Stark, Tet? I just don't see how Bruce overcomes IM's ability to devastate from distance.



I think your going to be suprised on the movie releases. I'm personally stoked for both flicks, but I think Iron Man will do better than Batman out of the gate. If the reviews are strong than it might beat Batman all together.

[HalJordanFan]

I thought we agreed not to have the Bat VS anyone any longer?:confused2

[pendragon]

In the world of big business between Stark & Wayne, have to give it to Stark.
Wayne always had Lucius Fox to do all the finanicals, while Stark did it himself.
So Stark could buy out Wayne.

[Teague]

I think your going to be suprised on the movie releases. I'm personally stoked for both flicks, but I think Iron Man will do better than Batman out of the gate. If the reviews are strong than it might beat Batman all together.

You might be right; the IM trailers seem to suggest that it rocks pretty hard. I have to say that as much as I'm looking forward to Batman, I'm looking forward even more to IM.

[AsOneDead]

I think your going to be suprised on the movie releases. I'm personally stoked for both flicks, but I think Iron Man will do better than Batman out of the gate. If the reviews are strong than it might beat Batman all together.

I think both flicks will be awesome but I don't see Iron Man making more than The Dark Knight. Everybody literally knows about TDK and they haven't even started to actually promote the movie for release while Iron Man is out in a couple of weeks and there's still a ton of people that haven't even heard of it.

[tedmic]

I think both flicks will be awesome but I don't see Iron Man making more than The Dark Knight. Everybody literally knows about TDK and they haven't even started to actually promote the movie for release while Iron Man is out in a couple of weeks and there's still a ton of people that haven't even heard of it.


Are those the people living in caves in Afghanistan? I eagerly look forward to both flicks but Iron Man's first weekend at the box office will easily beat TDK $90 million to $70 million.

[Teague]

Are those the people living in caves in Afghanistan? I eagerly look forward to both flicks but Iron Man's first weekend at the box office will easily beat TDK $90 million to $70 million.

I can easily see TDK doing 100 million the first weekend (especially if it's a long weekend). And I still think the long-term winner will be TDK--the Heath Ledger factor alone will draw tons of people. But like I said, I'm willing to be pleasantly surprised by IM--I already have been, honestly! :thumbs2:

[AsOneDead]

Are those the people living in caves in Afghanistan? I eagerly look forward to both flicks but Iron Man's first weekend at the box office will easily beat TDK $90 million to $70 million.

No, they're the normal people living in houses. If you're not a comic or movie buff then there's slim chance that you would've heard of it.

[Sledge Hammer!]

Well Iron Man only has one week until Speed Racer hits, then a week later there's Narnia, and in the third week after release it gets slammed by Indiana Jones.

Whereas Dark Knight comes at the end of the blockbuster summer, and doesn't have nearly as hard a line up of competition in the following weeks after it's release. The biggest challenges it has to face likely being The Mummy and X-Files sequels. So Dark Knight has a better chance of having multiple strong weeks of raking in top box office cash.

Plus Dark Knight is coming off of a successful relaunch of the Batman franchise, and has a ton of media attention that will be linked to it because of Ledger's untimely passing, not to mention that Batman and Joker are both characters that are more widely known than Iron Man, and so I think Dark Knight will own Iron Man at the box office pretty easily.

So yeah, my money is on Dark Knight, though I'm really hanging out to see both films, and think they'll both do really well overall. Indiana Jones is going to kick both their asses in terms of box office though I'm betting.

[VaultMan]

Either way, I win :thumbs2:

:buttrock:

[Teague]

So yeah, my money is on Dark Knight, though I'm really hanging out to see both films, and think they'll both do really well overall. Indiana Jones is going to kick both their asses in terms of box office though I'm betting.

Possibly. I'm REALLY looking forward to the new Indy, but I know a ton of people who are dreading this like the second coming of the Star Wars prequels. If Indy 4 rocks, it'll hit big. If word gets out that it bites, it's got a big first week, and then drops off precipitously.

This is a big summer, though--I wonder how the movie going dollar is going to stretch for all these blockbusters?

[Sledge Hammer!]

Everyone said the same thing about the Star Wars prequels too, and yet look at how much money they raked in. Even the least financially successful of the three, Attack Of The Clones, still cleared 300 million dollars domestic, and 650 million worldwide.

Honestly I don't think the amount of doomsaying or nervousness matters, as I don't think it will actually stop anyone from going to see the film, in the same way that no manner of negativity really hurt the prequels box office wise. I think in terms of box office, it's one of those rare films that'll be pretty much immune to critical or public backlash response, and will make huge money regardless.

[Teague]

Everyone said the same thing about the Star Wars prequels too, and yet look at how much money they raked in. Even the least financially successful of the three, Attack Of The Clones, still cleared 300 million dollars domestic, and 650 million worldwide.

Honestly I don't think the amount of doomsaying or nervousness matters, as I don't think it will actually stop anyone from going to see the film, in the same way that no manner of negativity really hurt the prequels box office wise. I think in terms of box office, it's one of those rare films that'll be pretty much immune to critical or public backlash response, and will make huge money regardless.

You might be right. I don't see the same groundswell of universal excitement about Indy that we saw for SW prequels, though. In fact, I'm astounded at how many of my friends never even saw Indy 3!

I'm sure all these films will do well, money-wise. I don't mean to propose otherwise. I do wonder, though, what with ALL the sci-fi/comic book/adventure flicks coming out this summer, if a couple might completely bomb just out of there being so damn many of them. I know for a fact that I won't be able to see ALL of the movies I want to see this summer in the theaters. I imagine I'll see IM, Hulk, Indy, and Batman...but the others (Speed Racer, Mummy, maybe X-Files, etc.), I'll probably wait.

[bat_collector]

as far as movies go, the main thing iron man has going for it is NO competition at the starting gate. The april movies suck, the box office has been weak, and by the time Iron Man comes, people will be ready for something exciting. This is the main reason Spidey 3 opened so well, it had no competition whatever from any type of movie on that opening weekend, where Shrek and Pirates 3 did.

By the time Dark Knight gets here, not only will people have choices, but there will have been a glut of superhero/geek movies to see that will factor in to how much it makes. Iron man may win for that alone.

I look forward to both.

[Sledge Hammer!]

Yeah well it's definitely a crowded summer, so you'd think something has to give. I'm actually kinda curious to see if The Mummy isn't one of the ones that falters, given that not only is Indy coming up first, but also the last film, while making a lot of money, also left a lot of people with a bit of a bitter taste in their mouth, quality wise.

X-Files I think will be all right, not because it'll be a massive blockbuster hit, but more because it doesn't need to be, as it's a pretty moderately budgeted film from all indications, so it just needs to do "well enough" to be considered successful.

But man, you'd have to imagine that there's going to be some financial losers in what looks to be a pretty brutal and full on summer blockbuster period.

I mean Iron Man, Narnia, Speed Racer, Indy, Hanc0ck, Wanted, Incredible Hulk, Dark Knight, X-Files, The Mummy, Wall-E, Kung Fu Panda, Hellboy, Get Smart...that's a lot of high profile movies over a relatively short period of time. They can't all be hits, surely...

[abarron]

Movie wise i would say the Dark Knight.
I was pleasently surpised with Begins and Dark Knight looks awesome i think its gonna be a close call but Dark Knight just pips it.

Superheroes its gotta be Iron man how can bats beat someone who can fry him from miles away. IM can fly also.

Real people gotta beat Bruce he could easily kick a Drunk with heart problems ass

Overall 2:1 to Bats

[isculpt]

I would have said bats, but in light of Iron Man's extremis and how he's connected to all the things of the world, he could Bats easily. Just get that big satellite ray again and boom, fried Bruce for dinner.

[isculpt]

Also, Stark has an infinity gem in which could alter reality, and he has been currently prone to breaking the rules...

[AsOneDead]

Batman ain't just going to be sitting around waiting for Iron Man to shoot him with a laser, I'm sure Batman would have some gadgets to ruin iron man's suit.

[Argonus]

In regards to an earlier conversation in this thread, it's easier for a movie to not "stray from the path" when it focuses on one character and his father (in this case, Indiana and his Pops). As successful as the recent Star Wars trilogy was, it had a lot of ground to cover to sync up with Episode IV, and a lot more characters to muddle it up. Two characters looking for some artifact/fighting "evil-doers" in the fourth movie of a series (with no obligation to make it open-ended for a fifth) is much easier to accomplish tastefully (not saying it's easy, I'm saying it's easier) than crafting the First through Third Act of a Six Part production. There's a huge obligation to make it a great film though, as all the other Indiana Jones films have been nothing short of spectacular (some would wince at "Temple of Doom")... plus, it's Ford and Connery returning to their hugely popular roles. I'm assuming Harrison will be bathing in "Just For Men".. haha. I'm a fan of both franchises, fyi, but much more so Indiana Jones than Star Wars.

Iron Man would win, provided he's at a safe enough distance. The guy's gotta have emp protection, I would think...explosive batarangs and their like wouldn't do much. I love Batman, but his "I can defeat anyone because I'm a normal EVERYMAN with both the intelligence to compensate for not having powers and the money to implement any strategem" attitude gets a little tiring after a while.

[Teague]

Batman ain't just going to be sitting around waiting for Iron Man to shoot him with a laser, I'm sure Batman would have some gadgets to ruin iron man's suit.

On him? This comes back to planning. The whole reason that the Bat-Shark-Repellent was a joke in the movie was that it was ludicrous that Batman had it on his utility belt for exactly that circumstance. But too often, that's the basis for defending a Batman win.

Does anyone really think that Bats carrys long-range EMP capability around with him? I don't.

[AsOneDead]

On him? This comes back to planning. The whole reason that the Bat-Shark-Repellent was a joke in the movie was that it was ludicrous that Batman had it on his utility belt for exactly that circumstance. But too often, that's the basis for defending a Batman win.

Does anyone really think that Bats carrys long-range EMP capability around with him? I don't.

It can just be some kind of explosive, his armour isn't indestructible.

[Teague]

It can just be some kind of explosive, his armour isn't indestructible.

Maybe. Just seems like a stretch to me, to assume that Bats would have a powerful enough explosive on him (that he could launch from distance, to boot) when we know for a fact that IM has weaponry to take Batman out pretty quickly.

[AsOneDead]

Close up combat, a straight up 1 on 1. I don't know how strong Iron Man's suit is in the comics but for the movie they said it was bullet proof and fire proof. Now I'm thinking a couple of those explosives from Batman Begin's, the ones he used to blow a hole in the door and wall at Arkham would do the trick.

[lord odin]

Batman can beat Tony with just one glass bottle.:)

[Teague]

Close up combat, a straight up 1 on 1. I don't know how strong Iron Man's suit is in the comics but for the movie they said it was bullet proof and fire proof. Now I'm thinking a couple of those explosives from Batman Begin's, the ones he used to blow a hole in the door and wall at Arkham would do the trick.

I'm not an Iron Man expert, but I think you're way underestimating the power of the armor.

[AsOneDead]

I'm no expert either but I don't think it'll be that easy for Iron Man to take out Batman.

[Teague]

I'm no expert either but I don't think it'll be that easy for Iron Man to take out Batman.

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it'd be easy. Its just that Iron Man's armor is a lot tougher than bulletproof (especially these days), and Stark has tons of weapons in the suit and at his disposal. Batman has (arguably, because I still don't think this would work, but still) an explosive attack (and probably just the one). It just seems like an unbalanced fight, in Stark's favor.

I have no doubt that Batman could win it if he had time to plan his attack, though, if that means anything. :thumbs2:

[isculpt]

Iron Man once withstood a nuke mind you from a distance. The leader of shield could not go toe to toe with Captain America, a supersoldier, if it wasn't without his armor. I think Bats would lose if he just encountered him, but if he had plans, then maybe he would win. But if Iron Man is planning the next encounter as well, then it would be a tough fight.

[Léon]

I meant the actual characters, not the movies.

Sorry :)
Still, I think Iron Man wins. I'm gonna get stoned for this, but everyones giving Batman way to much credit. Isn't Stark just as smart? Isn't he in his armor just as strong as the Thing? He can fly, he has a million weapons and gadgets in his armor.
No way for Wayne, not even if he has time to plan (if I hear that line one more time...)

[Teague]

Sorry :)
Still, I think Iron Man wins. I'm gonna get stoned for this, but everyones giving Batman way to much credit. Isn't Stark just as smart? Isn't he in his armor just as strong as the Thing? He can fly, he has a million weapons and gadgets in his armor.
No way for Wayne, not even if he has time to plan (if I hear that line one more time...)

Agreed! :thumbs2:

[Argonus]

Arguably, couldn't ANY hero win if they had time to plan for an attack? Batman has the intelligence and resources to make such plans viable, but it's not as if every other hero (or villain, for that matter) is an idiot. I realize Batman's intelligence is what makes him such a "force to be reckoned with" in the DC Universe, and even if the entire JLA is down for the count due to some interstellar threat, if Batman is still alive and well the JLA/world has a chance of surviving, but still...the man is the Punisher, but with a utility belt (and cowl).. haha. :) Frank Castle's no idiot either, but heroes aren't putting much faith in him to pull their fat out of the frying pan when Thanos comes a'knockin'.. haha. Batman MELEE'D Darkseid recently and lived... I mean.. COME ON. Haha.
It's like a Kung Fu Master vs. some Street-Fighting thug. Sure, the roundhouse kick could knock the thug out for a few minutes, but the thug's not going to wait for the Master to position himself properly to deliver said kick before successfully throwing a brick at his head.. haha.

I do enjoy Batman stories, I just think for being a non-powered human, some of his exploits seem a little far-fetched.. but such is comics, no?

Iron Man obliterates Batman.

[isculpt]

Thing is that most superheroes could beat batman, they just don't use their potential. Thus batman takes advantage of the situation.

[isculpt]

Also Iron Man used Batman esque thinking when he took on the sentry...and made him cry on his knees.

[Ink]

I think I'll go with iron man

[Justin]

Iron Man would beat Bats
While i beleive the Batman movie will make more money

[AsOneDead]

Lets hear it from them..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlLeCu63HCA

[JLM]

The only way Bats wins this is (as always) if he has time to plan.

Yup. :thumbs2:

[Bullseye]

1. Tony's greatest asset is his armor, but this becomes also his main vulnerability. Find a way to neutralize it (EMP, virus, computer shutdown command) and the contest is over. I would say that Bats is tech savy and resourceful enough to find a way.

2. Batman has certainly successfully fought a host of opponents who outpower him. I think he can handle the range of capabilities that Iron Man can throw at him. While both are masters of the art of planning and preparation, I feel that Batman has a better record of success. I mean, have any of the Hulkbuster or Thorbuster armors actually beaten the Hulk or Thor?


I am always amazed at the fact people forget that Bats has no super powers. One punch from Ironman and its over. Plus Tony is just as smart if not smarter than Bruce as he designs all of his own stuff.

You would swear he was invulnerable. In saying all of that this could go either way with no clear cut winner.