question for all the creative people here...

[Black Cat]

I need to make a hemoglobin molecule and present it in a week and I'm having a hard time deciding on what to use. I thought of some things but don't really want it to be cheesy so any suggestions would be welcomed and appreciated lol. Here is the image I am going by

[Babytoxie]

Questions:

1. This needs to be a model (3-D)?
2. What is this for? Work, a class, or something else?
3. Do you want to use basic inexpensive items, or more "professional" items? There are plenty of molecular model kits out there.

[riderV3]

The picture you provided is only a heme molecule, a functional group that imbeds inside a hemoglobin.

A typicall hemoglobin would have 4 heme molecules and each imbeds inside a secondary structure: 2 alpha helices and 2 beta sheets in a 2-fold symmatry arrangement.

So if you're trying to present a "hemoglobin" the image you're going by isn't going to work.

[riderV3]

You can google and download a molecular visualization software called RasMol(or RasTop, essentially they're the same thing), I used it often as it's quite good and best of all, free.

I just found the file number for hemoglobin, google Protein Data Bank and search 1C7D.
There's a download option by the 1C7D number and you can download the PDB(text) file and load it with RasMol (as you would load a song, File--Open--and choose the 1C7D file...you know the drill).

It not only shows you an accurate 3-D structure of the hemoglobin but you can also rotate it 360 and choose differnt display options(sticks, balls etc...) that would be a tremendous help if you want to make a model using bendy wires.


OR you can just take the whole RasMol software with you in a USB drive since it's only about 3MB plus hemoglobin file around 400KB and doesn't require installation, just click the .exe and you can drag and turn that hemoglobin like you're the boss.

[carrillj]

I don't know what a hemoglobin is, but I have a Demogoblin I can let you have if it helps.

[Kingofthehill78]

Originally Posted by Black Cat

I need to make a hemoglobin molecule and present it in a week and I'm having a hard time deciding on what to use. I thought of some things but don't really want it to be cheesy so any suggestions would be welcomed and appreciated lol. Here is the image I am going by

[derekrodneysim]

Originally Posted by riderV3

The picture you provided is only a heme molecule, a functional group that imbeds inside a hemoglobin.

A typicall hemoglobin would have 4 heme molecules and each imbeds inside a secondary structure: 2 alpha helices and 2 beta sheets in a 2-fold symmatry arrangement.

So if you're trying to present a "hemoglobin" the image you're going by isn't going to work.

Originally Posted by riderV3

You can google and download a molecular visualization software called RasMol(or RasTop, essentially they're the same thing), I used it often as it's quite good and best of all, free.

I just found the file number for hemoglobin, google Protein Data Bank and search 1C7D.
There's a download option by the 1C7D number and you can download the PDB(text) file and load it with RasMol (as you would load a song, File--Open--and choose the 1C7D file...you know the drill).

It not only shows you an accurate 3-D structure of the hemoglobin but you can also rotate it 360 and choose differnt display options(sticks, balls etc...) that would be a tremendous help if you want to make a model using bendy wires.


OR you can just take the whole RasMol software with you in a USB drive since it's only about 3MB plus hemoglobin file around 400KB and doesn't require installation, just click the .exe and you can drag and turn that hemoglobin like you're the boss.

DAMMIT, rider! Are you trying to make us here feel dumb, cos you're damn good at it too, son!

Originally Posted by carrillj

I don't know what a hemoglobin is, but I have a Demogoblin I can let you have if it helps.

Originally Posted by Kingofthehill78

[johnclone]

Originally Posted by Kingofthehill78

rofl

[rychehitman]

BC, are you using straws, or toothpics to build this?

[Argonus]

Originally Posted by rychehitman

BC, are you using straws, or toothpics to build this?

More importantly, has Nat traded in her leather bodysuit for a lab coat?

.. and if so, does she at least "go commando" underneath it?