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07-21-2018, 12:15 PM
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#441
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Hercules
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 14,324
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Originally Posted by pdenham
Complaining is a loaded phrase.
I said this didn't impress me as much in clear full length photos/video as it had from the mosaic of isolated close up images the first video promo was cut from.
And I should have been clear by "Thor" I mean the statue as a whole.
I think I posted this prior, but for Thor to be taking on Surtur , it's something of a David V Goliath situation. Surtur is huge and Thor is a bit of an underdog.
There's a lot of fight in that dog though and that's a good part of the appeal is that he is all in against a superior sized foe.
Because of that, I think a more substantial Surtur base would have worked well (better?).
Just my feeling about it. YMMV obviously.
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Ok, so you are talking about the overall height of the statue ...not just Thor himself. You're basically saying this statue would've worked better if it was taller. Obviously, that's a personal point of view. That's fine.
I just don't agree with that point of view. So even if a statue and its base are well sculpted, proportioned and painted, it still not good enough because its not tall enough? Nope, I don't buy that.
I'd rather judge a statue on how well its sculpted, proportioned and painted ...instead of its overall height. A statue can be the tallest statue, but if its badly sculpted or badly proportioned or badly painted ...then you just have a tall ugly statue.
This Thor statue works because Thor himself is well sculpted, proportioned and painted.
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07-21-2018, 12:19 PM
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#442
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Batman
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Michigan
Posts: 20,089
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Originally Posted by Redpower
Shame head is small ,the proportion is off
Waiting for a comic one hopefully.
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none of this makes sense
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07-21-2018, 12:23 PM
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#443
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Midnighter
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 4,869
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really wish they'd give us a video or booklet guide to get to these intricate cape poses lol...
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07-21-2018, 12:58 PM
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#444
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Teen Titans
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Indenial
Posts: 3,747
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC_808
...So even if a statue and its base are well sculpted, proportioned and painted, it still not good enough because its not tall enough? Nope, I don't buy that.
I'd rather judge a statue on how well its sculpted, proportioned and painted ...instead of its overall height. A statue can be the tallest statue, but if its badly sculpted or badly proportioned or badly painted ...then you just have a tall ugly statue.
This Thor statue works because Thor himself is well sculpted, proportioned and painted.
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Again, you seem to mischaracterize what I say and then take exception with that mischaracterization.
It was not simply taller. I said larger. To further clarify, that means larger in every dimension- height, width, and depth. Because Surtur himself is a much larger adversary.
That doesn't take anything away from how well Thor himself is realized.
But this is a diorama. It doesn't make sense if you only focus on Thor. The point of the statue is about him in relation to his adversary here, of which we only get a fractional view of.
Because that fractional view here is smaller, or equal, in mass compared to Thor, it means the threat he represents is already diminished quite a bit.
Does that make the statue a failure in my eyes?
No.
Is that point a deal killer for me?
Not necessarily.
Do I think the statue could be even better if it the composition had been done a little differently?
Yes.
It seems that, when something is popularly regarded, if everyone isn't fully on board and 100% fawning over it, suddenly they are "complaining".
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07-21-2018, 01:51 PM
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#445
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Hercules
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 14,324
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pdenham
Again, you seem to mischaracterize what I say and then take exception with that mischaracterization.
It was not simply taller. I said larger. To further clarify, that means larger in every dimension- height, width, and depth. Because Surtur himself is a much larger adversary.
That doesn't take anything away from how well Thor himself is realized.
But this is a diorama. It doesn't make sense if you only focus on Thor. The point of the statue is about him in relation to his adversary here, of which we only get a fractional view of.
Because that fractional view here is smaller, or equal, in mass compared to Thor, it means the threat he represents is already diminished quite a bit.
Does that make the statue a failure in my eyes?
No.
Is that point a deal killer for me?
Not necessarily.
Do I think the statue could be even better if it the composition had been done a little differently?
Yes.
It seems that, when something is popularly regarded, if everyone isn't fully on board and 100% fawning over it, suddenly they are "complaining".
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I'm not trying to attack you when I use the word "complaining".
Complaining, criticizing, commenting ...whatever words you use the reasoning behind it is still the same. And that's what I don't agree on.
This is not a dio since Surtur is not in full form ...its a statue of Thor. Surtur's head is just the base ...it helps to show what Thor is doing, but its not a dio.
IMO, the base is fine as is since this is a statue of Thor. As long as Thor is well sculpted, proportioned and painted. This is not a VS dio.
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07-21-2018, 02:26 PM
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#446
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Yeah, I spend WAY too much time here!
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 3,822
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Pretty simple, Surtur is all powerful and can be any darn size he wants to be.
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07-21-2018, 03:04 PM
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#447
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Legion of Super-Heroes
Adamantium Plus Member
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 4,736
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Overall the feedback on this piece is absolutely amazing it kills all Thor’s before it imo. Could the base be larger I think yes maybe SS could make surtur bigger .
Those who hate the cloth cape who cares I’m not displaying it with a cape I’m positive it will be removable .
Proportion stuff and head being small is classic trolling don’t feed the trolls!
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07-21-2018, 03:47 PM
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#448
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Green Lantern Corps
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Earth
Posts: 5,706
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Are people not liking this now or something? The vibe in here seems different.
Still looks like one of Sideshow's best ever to me. Epic in every way.
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07-21-2018, 04:12 PM
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#449
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Jedi Order
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Brisbane,Australia
Posts: 24,139
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SONICobra
none of this makes sense
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Obvious troll job .
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07-21-2018, 07:08 PM
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#450
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Legion of Super-Heroes
Adamantium Plus Member
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 4,736
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People are saying crap calling it an opinion . The base wether I want to pretend it’s Surtur or just a fire demon is irrelevant I’m buying this for Thor . Just like SS miles morales I bought I don’t care for giant venom head base I pretend it’s not there . Why?
In the big picture I display all my characters together interacting with each other the bases are irrelevant .
And Yes..... trolls!!!
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