Can Juggernaut Move Thor's Hammer?

[Makkari1]

Originally Posted by heirtoasguard

wow, this thread is still alive and kicking. I have read most of the posts on this. but Bob, is your main arguement about this is the fact that you consider Juggs not to be "truly alive", correct? ok I can see your point. but let me ask you, since Wonderman is in this same class, can Wondy pick up Thor hammer too? also in your last post you wrote that there is possibillty that the Gem of Cyttorak can protect Juggs from such attacks. did you know that Thor used his hammer to create a mystic shield and cut off Juggs source of his power...the Gem of Cyttorak.
before you go any further, I'm saying that his wasn't unstoppable. what I'm saying is that Juggs force field was down and Thor was being able to hit him.
so if Mjolnir can cut off Juggs source, what makes you think that Juggs can offset that enchantment,
being able to move it.

Great points.

[RichBamf]

I still think Tet's post about nothing being absolute is the most appropriate.

Especially in comics, the next ret-con is only months away.

[Makkari1]

Originally Posted by RichBamf

I still think Tet's post about nothing being absolute is the most appropriate.

Especially in comics, the next ret-con is only months away.

So true.

[Meteor Man]

Originally Posted by RichBamf

I still think Tet's post about nothing being absolute is the most appropriate.

Especially in comics, the next ret-con is only months away.

Man, ain't that the truth! Good point Rich....

[VaultMan]

Since he's pulling this hammer on the ground, his feet would dig ditches until he buried himself so his feet would just keep moving while he moved all around, under the earth, over dirt, etc...but that hammer aint moving.

[VaultMan]

Originally Posted by RichBamf

Especially in comics, the next ret-con is only months away.

Good point.

[MrYac]

heres my thing, Juggy is the embodiment of Cy on Earth, the enchantment is a little bit of magic asgaridan fairy dust sprinkeled on a hammer as a gift. so i'd say the Gem gives more juice then the extra bit o' magic on the hammer

[Justin]

Originally Posted by RichBamf

I still think Tet's post about nothing being absolute is the most appropriate.

Especially in comics, the next ret-con is only months away.

Sad but true

[Bob Aboey]

Originally Posted by Makkari1

I appreciate what you are saying about the power of Cyttorak in regards to protecting Juggernaut but when you are dealing with Skyfathers no mere human vessel endowed with that power will protect him from an equal power source. The power will afford Juggs some protection against lesser foes but not Odin. That my opinion and I'm sticking with it.

Again, I think its a small, but important semantic debate as to whether or not Juggernaut is a "human vessel" when bonded in body and soul to the Gem of Cyttorak. I also think that the way the Gem is now bonded to the soul of Cain, the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. My rationale for this, feeble though it may be, has roots in theology and it is impossible for me to argue that point but, like you, my opinion differs and I'm sticking to it.

Originally Posted by Makkari1

Yes I am a Thor fan but I'm also a Juggernaut fan as well. I have most action figures and stautes of Juggernaut and he is my top favorite villian in terms of raw strenght. I think the character is poorly written and made into a whipping boy for the Xmen (who isn't these days) but he is one of the most dangerous foes the Xmen have ever faced.

Ah, man! I completely agree with you! Now who can I argue with?

Originally Posted by MrYac

heres my thing, Juggy is the embodiment of Cy on Earth, the enchantment is a little bit of magic asgaridan fairy dust sprinkeled on a hammer as a gift. so i'd say the Gem gives more juice then the extra bit o' magic on the hammer

What he said!

[Shaihulud]

JUGGERNAULT WHO ???? TOO MANY X-FANS HERE THINKING HE'S THE BADDEST EVER...COME ON..ANY SKYFATHERS WOULD OWN HIM....HE'S BEEN STOPPED BY WAR HULK EMPOWERED BY APOCALYPSE....JUGGERNAULT IS A *****.