Heroes Discussion

[bat_collector]

Originally Posted by Underdog07

And why don't they factor in time delyaed viewers? Because advertisers refuse to pay based on those numbers since the viewer has the ability to bypass the commercials.

exactly! Nearly everyone I know who watched lost before still watches it, so I don't know how it went down 20%.

Sometimes tv, movies, and music execs don't keep up with the time.

[Crom]

Originally Posted by Underdog07

That actually is incorrect and based on faulty reporting by media outlets. Ratings only account for shows that are watched during their live broadcasts. Thus, every person who DVRs or tapes a show for delayed viewing does not count in the ratings.

USA Today ran an article on this several weeks ago and the differences were astonishing. Lost was down 20% from last year. But if you take into account time delayed viewers, it was only down 1%. Most other shows had similar results.

So why are more people using delayed watching? The best guess was the early switch to day light savings time.

And why don't they factor in time delyaed viewers? Because advertisers refuse to pay based on those numbers since the viewer has the ability to bypass the commercials.

I should have qualified my response. Heroes is the only new show that the networks consider a bon-a-fide hit. While there are hit shows on TV still, none of the new shows have really been true, out-of-the-ballpark home runs. Heroes actually increased viewership in the first several shows after the season opener.

While viewership appears to be down across the board for all networks, as you pointed out Tivo and other recording devices are not being taken into account yet. And even if Heroes numbers were to decline it would still be a ratings monster n the coveted 18-49 range.

[Underdog07]

Originally Posted by Crom

I should have qualified my response. Heroes is the only new show that the networks consider a bon-a-fide hit. While there are hit shows on TV still, none of the new shows have really been true, out-of-the-ballpark home runs. Heroes actually increased viewership in the first several shows after the season opener.

While viewership appears to be down across the board for all networks, as you pointed out Tivo and other recording devices are not being taken into account yet. And even if Heroes numbers were to decline it would still be a ratings monster n the coveted 18-49 range.

Right. I wasn't implying that you were incorrect, but that the facts people see are incorrect.

Neilson is working on something to take delayed viewers into account. I honestly can not think of one show I watch at its actual time. So I am a non-entity to the TV ratings industry

[Crom]

And even when Tivo and the other recorded shows are taken into account, think it will actually be tougher for shows to be renewed. Considering most people do not watch commercials when they record a show, advertising dollars will likely go down.

Better get used to all of the Heroes holding a Coke can in every scene.

[Sniper]

Originally Posted by Zurbaran1

The show's not ending, it's just the season that is. In fact I just read that it is being renewed and Season 2 will have 30 episodes. There will also be a spin-off series, Heroes: Origins. Awesome!

I hate when they try adn extend a show, it always suffers, This is the end of the graphic novel story line?

ANgrycomicman is one of the few people I know that has the graphic novel and read it.

I hope it doesnt start getting stupid like prison break and they start seriously f-ing the story lines...

[Underdog07]

Originally Posted by Sniper

I hope it doesnt start getting stupid like prison break and they start seriously f-ing the story lines...

oh they will. They also likely altered the ending to set up the second season.

[DarthBane]

Originally Posted by Crom

And now that D.L. is dead Sylar cannot steal his powers, as he did in the future Hiro and Ando saw. It looks like that future is slowly changing, possibly for the better.

LITTLE SPOILER IF YOU DID NOT SEE THE PREVIEW FOR NEXT WEEK












































I Don't think D.L. is dead yet? In the previews for next week he was with Micah and Nicky laying there with his eyes open.

[imthkman]

Originally Posted by Underdog07

Right. I wasn't implying that you were incorrect, but that the facts people see are incorrect.

Neilson is working on something to take delayed viewers into account. I honestly can not think of one show I watch at its actual time. So I am a non-entity to the TV ratings industry

Me neither. I have 3 kids, and my DVR's are the only way I get to see any of the shows I like. I hope Neilson gets the "delayed viewing" thing going. I don't care if the shows have to put advertising on the screen. I'd rather see Peter wearing a GAP shirt than no Heroes at all.

[fossa2]

Originally Posted by DarthBane

I Don't think D.L. is dead yet?

Just because he was shot does not mean he is dead. Happens all the time...& not only in TV Land. I was thinking the same thing.

So why did Ted not just "flame on" to escape the Paddy Wagon...or for that matter, to prevent them from capturing him in the first place?

[whd]

Originally Posted by fossa2

Just because he was shot does not mean he is dead. Happens all the time...& not only in TV Land. I was thinking the same thing.

So why did Ted not just "flame on" to escape the Paddy Wagon...or for that matter, to prevent them from capturing him in the first place?

Despite his power, Ted was not exactly the brightest bulb.