New Wolverine: Brown Outfit Fine Art Statue

[Mammal]

Originally Posted by Scribe

Now that Randy Bowen is basically out of the Marvel/X-men game (for whatever reason he didn't get his license renewed as he expected) ...

Yeah, so source on that? That's contrary to what has been reported. He's said the contract hasn't been renewed yet, but he's also said there would be another phase, and he's been showing sneaks constantly.

[Scribe]

Originally Posted by Mammal

Yeah, so source on that? That's contrary to what has been reported. He's said the contract hasn't been renewed yet, but he's also said there would be another phase, and he's been showing sneaks constantly.

He was supposed to get his extension before the end of 2013. Now we are three months into 2014 and still not renewed.

The "sneaks" he is showing will never go into production if he doesn't get the license back so I wouldn't hold your breath at this point.

Further evidence would be the fire sale they're having at Rocky's Vault.

[Mammal]

Ok, so you're speculating. Gotcha.

[ZKULPTOR]

Originally Posted by AlizAbef

That masked head sculpt is ridiculous. It really lights up my brain cells in that photoshop image. I wish I could get a life size bust from Eric in that exact sculpt.

Just ask nicely

[Kicksplode]

Originally Posted by Scribe

He was supposed to get his extension before the end of 2013. Now we are three months into 2014 and still not renewed.

The "sneaks" he is showing will never go into production if he doesn't get the license back so I wouldn't hold your breath at this point.

Further evidence would be the fire sale they're having at Rocky's Vault.

None of that means Bowen is "out of the Marvel game" yet. Marvel is just being particularly slow/difficult about negotiations this time. Neither side stands to gain from revoking the license, so presumably it's just a matter of time and haggling.

[Devils Drifter]

I'm going to have to pick this up! One of the best looking Wolvie sculpts around.

[Scribe]

Originally Posted by Mammal

Ok, so you're speculating. Gotcha.

This isn't really the place to debate this issue. There's a Bowen section and if you are really into denying reality and just being a cheerleader there is that other site.

Originally Posted by Kicksplode

None of that means Bowen is "out of the Marvel game" yet. Marvel is just being particularly slow/difficult about negotiations this time. Neither side stands to gain from revoking the license, so presumably it's just a matter of time and haggling.

Bowen stands to lose a lot yes, but Disney/Marvel could make more producing statues itself than it was with Bowen. What they were making off Bowen only paid for the legal fees to draw up the license so they were making nothing for the hassle. He was allegedly a bit of a diva to work with and Disney got a lot of customer complaints about him. Randy only tells people what he wants them to know, not necessarily the whole truth.

[Mammal]

Originally Posted by Scribe

This isn't really the place to debate this issue. There's a Bowen section and if you are really into denying reality and just being a cheerleader there is that other site.

You brought Bowen up dude. I'm not being a cheerleader. I'm plenty critical of Bowen, and I can't stand some of the sycophants at "that other site."

But when you have people spreading misinformation (ie. you), it has an effect. I own Bowen statues. I buy and sell them. And people overstating (such as by stating opinions or speculation about the line's demise as if it's fact) hurts the market, and in the worst case could become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Bowen's said there would be another phase. They (Bowen and his sculptors) have begun soliciting feedback for upcoming pieces, and they've rolled out probably 5-10 spec piece previews (Wonder Man, Baron Zemo, Battle Armor Thor, Rhino, Guardians of the Galaxy busts, Gamora, Nightcrawler, Shocker, et al) in the past couple months. Unless you believe Bowen is just duplicitously stringing people along with no care for how that would affect his future business, that's a good indication that the line will continue.

Even with that said, it still a fair inference that the line's in trouble. It's just not a fact yet.

[gomur]

Originally Posted by Mammal

You brought Bowen up dude. I'm not being a cheerleader. I'm plenty critical of Bowen, and I can't stand some of the sycophants at "that other site."

But when you have people spreading misinformation (ie. you), it has an effect. I own Bowen statues. I buy and sell them. And people overstating (such as by stating opinions or speculation about the line's demise as if it's fact) hurts the market, and in the worst case could become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Bowen's said there would be another phase. They (Bowen and his sculptors) have begun soliciting feedback for upcoming pieces, and they've rolled out probably 5-10 spec piece previews (Wonder Man, Baron Zemo, Battle Armor Thor, Rhino, Guardians of the Galaxy busts, Gamora, Nightcrawler, Shocker, et al) in the past couple months. Unless you believe Bowen is just duplicitously stringing people along with no care for how that would affect his future business, that's a good indication that the line will continue.

Even with that said, it still a fair inference that the line's in trouble. It's just not a fact yet.

Well said, Mammal. I hate to pick sides on this, Scribe, but you were the one who brought up Bowen to begin with. Saying just enough to get a fiery debate started, and I'm hoping that was unintentional. I say we let it end here. As you mentioned, there is a section for Bowen on this forum and this is a Koto realm.

Let's get back to admiring this amazing Brown Wolverine that Erick has created and speculating about future releases for the Fine Art line.

[Sithlord32]

Well I keep looking at this and i still do think its one of th best wolverines out there. I only have one drawback to this that I would mention and see if anyone else feels the same.

The chest. I am not fond of how much the chest caves in between the pecs. It looks awkward. There is so much muscle refinement and definition there and into the neck area but no where else and I feel it throws it off.