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06-06-2017, 09:39 AM
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Yeah, I spend WAY too much time here!
Join Date: Oct 2005
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Originally Posted by protector2814
We never really talk about playwrite' Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa's 30 issue run on the Fabntastic Four back in their experiment with them under The Marvel Knights Banner. I loved that book & feel it never got the attention or appreciation it deserved. Give a new FF book to Aguirre-Sacasa. He really got the family dynamic & while he didn't really take the FF to outer space, he took them to plenty of weird places (anyone remember the Pine-Barrens/Jersey Devil issue?) He could do it. The Marvel Knights FF had artists like Steve Mcniven, Jim Muniz, Mizuki Sakabara & Clay Mann drawing; beautiful stuff in every issue. Anyone of the artists could pick up the book with Sacasa. I woud be so happy if something like this came to play. Truly, I don't see why Marvel isn't doing a new FF anything?
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That's a great run. It reminded me of a sort of X-Files/FF hybrid. If FF came back I would like them to do a similar thing, with some space travel eventually mixed in. Slow build up and eventual cosmic ramifications.
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06-06-2017, 10:38 AM
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#12
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Jedi Order
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Habs Nation
Posts: 28,157
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Originally Posted by RichBamf
It's a shame, but I don't actually know where the FF would fit in comics and what readership they would have now. It seems the space faring family mantle has been passed to the GOTG crew.
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This is an excellent point.
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06-06-2017, 02:50 PM
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Kiss my shiny metal arse!
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New York City
Posts: 3,314
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Originally Posted by wktf
I'm not a fan of Hickman's run, or anything he's done for Marvel.
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I'm sure I was thinking of you when I said "not many fans". You've been very vocal with your dislike of his Marvel writing.
I feel the opposite of course. I'd love to see him take on the X-Men franchise.
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06-06-2017, 03:35 PM
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#14
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Columnist Thunder Mod
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Denver Area, between Asgard and Krypton
Posts: 21,393
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Originally Posted by risingstar
As much as I like Jason Aaron, I have found him to be hit or miss. To write FF, you really need a superb scifi imagination and a penchant for physics and chemistry. If he does indeed get a stint on the book, I hope he can pull it off.
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His Hulk and Original Sin work, admittedly, were terrible. But Scalped, Ghost Rider, Wolverine/Weapon X and Thor are off-the-hook good. And he's said he'd love to work on FF so his heart is in the characters and the book.
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06-06-2017, 03:36 PM
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Columnist Thunder Mod
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Denver Area, between Asgard and Krypton
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Originally Posted by ParisDean
I'm sure I was thinking of you when I said "not many fans". You've been very vocal with your dislike of his Marvel writing.
I feel the opposite of course. I'd love to see him take on the X-Men franchise.
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Fair enough, and to each his own. If he wrote X-Men I certainly wouldn't buy it after what I read on FF and Avengers.
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06-06-2017, 03:41 PM
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Jubilee
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Antalya/Turkiye
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Originally Posted by ParisDean
I know he doesn't have many fans here, but I thought the Jonathan Hickman run on Fantastic Four/FF was epic. I wish I could find the first Hickman omnibus at a decent price.
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Same goes for me. :/
I haven't read his FF or Avengers yet but the praises of them or anything Hickman is sky high so i'm really hyped about upcoming Hickman Avengers Omnibus, i won't miss this one like i missed his FF.
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06-06-2017, 04:15 PM
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Phoenix
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Silver Spring, MD
Posts: 12,155
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Originally Posted by RichBamf
That's a great run. It reminded me of a sort of X-Files/FF hybrid. If FF came back I would like them to do a similar thing, with some space travel eventually mixed in. Slow build up and eventual cosmic ramifications.
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So true. But he could also write very human tales too. I recall one issue where Reed talked a despondent business man & father off the edge of a building where he intended to jump. I've never read a FF story like that one & still really remember it.
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06-06-2017, 04:29 PM
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Jedi Order
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Habs Nation
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Originally Posted by wktf
His Hulk and Original Sin work, admittedly, were terrible. But Scalped, Ghost Rider, Wolverine/Weapon X and Thor are off-the-hook good. And he's said he'd love to work on FF so his heart is in the characters and the book.
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I felt his work on X-Men and Wolverine was average at best. Those books also had a religion-bent to them which I felt didn't work for me. I also couldn't get past his first Scalped TPB as I'm not typically drawn to books with that much profanity, violence, and grit. However, I could not agree more about Thor, even though it was a bit religion-heavy. I have yet to read his Ghost Rider, however, I imagine it's probably another thinly veiled lecture on religion.
I hope you're right about FF. I love that title. However, it's the toughest book to write well. However, I can't help but feel he would use the title to vent more about religion (i.e., with Galactus, Anihillus, and so on).
All this to say, I'm not against using religion as a source material. However, with Aaron, it's starting to feel one-trick-ponyish. I wonder if I'm the only to notice that religion has been heavily featured in most of his work.
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06-06-2017, 04:45 PM
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Columnist Thunder Mod
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Denver Area, between Asgard and Krypton
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It's funny, I don't really see the religious parts of his writing. Though his Ghost Rider gets into an apocolyptic storyline so it may not be so thinly veiled, as you note. I don't really see the religious elements to his work on Thor (beyond the pagan pantheons that always have been part of the Thor comic), Dr. Strange and Weapon X.
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06-06-2017, 05:03 PM
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Phoenix
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Silver Spring, MD
Posts: 12,155
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Originally Posted by RichBamf
It's a shame, but I don't actually know where the FF would fit in comics and what readership they would have now. It seems the space faring family mantle has been passed to the GOTG crew.
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Good crossovers like the Infinity & Annihilation books proved to me that there's plenty of room in Marvel's Space-Faring & Cosmic side for more books dealing with Space. If anything, Marvel's backed off from this rich history. The FF spent a lot of time in different universes which now remain, more or less, untapped.
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