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Like I mentioned. It was just a WIP pic. We nailed down the final color already, if it's not accurate, nothing is.  And he's working off my references, not his. |
Sounds good. Still doesn't avoid the "monitor thing" that will affect your references, but cant wait to see the final results.
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The pics you posted are not the best references
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Never said they were, i was showing the consistent characteristic of that maquette.
Perfectly reflected on the ILM model itself in what i think is a much better version of the shot (the only one outdoor under the sunlight) that he used.
I can see a good amount of orange, browns and yellow in that frame, just not so much on the rex.
Then if you have a better version of it i would love to see it.
To be clear, i'm not saying she should be green or something like that, nor that she should match 1:1 that picture i've posted, i'm just talking about that ever-present but very soft layer of olive/blue kind of tone on top of the brown, which is the main tone of the female without a doubt, and about how visible those "stripes" should be for a more accurate movie look. Three pictures to further illustrate what i mean:
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and the last one is from TLW (not sure what that's for)
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That's funny to me because i've spent like 15 minutes working on that image to make sure that no one could ever say that.. hasn't worked as i'd hoped.
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The piece showed partially behind it is a OG Stan Winston JP T-Rex though.
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That's the point. ^^
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Do you have any JP T-Rex piece that you post some pics of?
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Like an original maquette? Unfortunately not, but it would bring nothing to this discussion anyway since every one has been painted differently, as you probably know.
Not an awesome custom like yours, either. I was waiting forever for a female cast to show up somewhere until Chronicle happened and you sent her to them. Oh, thanks btw.
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I'd love to see if you can share. Sounds like you know what's "100%"...
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Not sure if i'm right in getting some "asshole smartass sarcasm" vibe in this sentence.. but still.
I don't know "what's 100%", but since Manuel usually goes for movie-accuracy like no one else, and since as today there's no better way to see it, i use a 35mm scan of the movie as reference. That's also how i've watched and mostly
heard the movie for years by now. It's the original experience, where Jurassic Park looks built in Costa Rica and not in the hawaii or even on Cameron's Pandora because of an old horrible master that makes Cundey's work basically disappear, CG that looks f***ing
real and
beautiful to look at and much better blended with SWS animatronics and full of shades of wonderful colours that completely disappears on Blu-Ray. The original DTS presention also sounds ten times better than the BD, the difference in the audio department it's not even funny, like another f***ing movie for real, and we're talking about an incredibly well rated track on BD. JP has yet to come in Home Video and that's an incredible shame since no hyperbole here, this is still the movie with better integrated VFX in history.
Anyway, back on references, there are the pretty awesome directly-from-ILM Cinefex stills, some hi-res ILM render or stock pictures, Murray Close's photos, perfect for clothe's references, and so on.
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Personally, I'm not looking for 100%.
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And that's ok. In my case it's not just 100% accuracy vs preferences, i
like her much more in that way. That's why i've always loved this piece.
Not 100% accurate, whatever that means, i just dig
this look more than monochromatic grey or brown versions and i'm finding it more accurate at the same time.
Just found the WiP you've posted almost less appealing than the CC one in that monochromatic way (the same that afflicts the movie in Home Video) and not entirely movie accurate for what is my experience and for what i know he is capable of. Just posted my two cent.
I would love, in PM if you prefer, to see these "perfect references" you have of course.
