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11-07-2012, 03:34 PM
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Hercules
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Diego
Posts: 14,169
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Originally Posted by Teague
Yeah, for what it's worth, I don't use pot either--tried it, didn't like it much.
I do think that it being a "gateway drug" has more to do with its criminalization than its actual effect. The substance doesn't cause someone to go try other drugs--the infusion into the illegality of it does. Once you've tried one banned substance, it's easier to let yourself do more. Decriminalizing marijuana would take all that out of the equation.
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you must had some sh*tty stuff then
I smoked in high school, but it wasn't my first drug mushrooms were, now THAT should remain illegal, I haven't done anything since, so for me it is not a gateway drug, but I have a little bit more tact than most people. But I do got to say it is FAR less dangerous than alcohol, which can make people quite violent, marijuana just makes people get along.
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11-07-2012, 04:53 PM
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3 kinds of people: those who can count & those who can't.
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Arizona
Posts: 5,392
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Originally Posted by nbr3bagshotrow
We have dispensaries all over Denver. Some municipalities have outlawed them within city limits but I'm betting there will be a legal challenge now that it will be legal. This fight isn't over. IMO, what people do in their own home is their right and I want government out of it as much as possible. But I realize this country is still about the majority and until the majority are on the other side of the fence it will be a challenge. And just like alcohol, if someone is driving high they should face the same penalties and driving drunk.
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totally agree.
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11-07-2012, 04:57 PM
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The Enchantress
Join Date: May 2008
Location: caught somewhere in time
Posts: 13,725
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in a related story, Colorado shop owners are stocking up on Funions snacks, and Capn Crunch cereal.
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11-07-2012, 05:49 PM
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Hercules
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Diego
Posts: 14,169
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they will be sold out the first week it initiates
bet alot of tourists too, going to be Amsterdam for the states
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11-07-2012, 06:03 PM
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Hercules
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: By a Lake in NC
Posts: 14,926
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Again, it's a meaningless law as the state is unlikely to be able to institute it. It even says this in the article.
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11-07-2012, 06:18 PM
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Scarlet Witch
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Frozen Wasteland
Posts: 7,866
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Originally Posted by Underdog07
Again, it's a meaningless law as the state is unlikely to be able to institute it. It even says this in the article.
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I know you are a lawyer UD so forgive my ignorance and if this is a dumb question then feel free to say so but why do they have to "institute" anything (other than for the obvious tax reasons)? Why can't they just not arrest people they find possessing or selling pot?
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11-07-2012, 06:23 PM
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Iron Man
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 15,178
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Originally Posted by TNovak
I know you are a lawyer UD so forgive my ignorance and if this is a dumb question then feel free to say so but why do they have to "institute" anything (other than for the obvious tax reasons)? Why can't they just not arrest people they find possessing or selling pot?
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That's pretty much what they do now, with isolated exceptions (and those tend to be widely criticized).
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11-07-2012, 07:20 PM
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Jedi Order
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Habs Nation
Posts: 28,157
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If pot becomes legal, I can easily see companies feeling compelled to introduce zero tolerance policies which will enable them to conduct unannounced drug tests on its employees in safety sensitive positons, i.e., construction, electrical, and so on. It's already done in lots of places as I review dozens of substance abuse assessments on a weekly basis. The potential legalization of pot will no doubt cause this number to rise, if only so companies can protect themselves from being sued.
As marijuana typically stays in the system 1-6 days for casual users (much longer than alcohol), that number will be even greater for those who use heavily which means there will be evidence of potential cognitive impairment for a longer period which may result in a temporary job suspension as they will have been deemed a legitimate risk to the safety of their work environments. While it's interesting to see how many people are thrilled by this news, let's not forget that we're still talking about a drug which is often abused and misunderstood. If it's that easily accessible, I can also see it being recklessly used to self medicate for depression, anxiety, ADHD, and so on. Thankfully, there's loads of research out there to be read which will hopefully steer people into making the healthier choice in recreational activity.
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11-07-2012, 08:04 PM
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Hercules
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Diego
Posts: 14,169
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just because it stays in the system doesn't mean it has the same affect when you first use it, after a couple hours it isn't a big deal, whereas alcohol last much longer after drinking
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11-07-2012, 09:26 PM
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Hercules
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: By a Lake in NC
Posts: 14,926
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TNovak
I know you are a lawyer UD so forgive my ignorance and if this is a dumb question then feel free to say so but why do they have to "institute" anything (other than for the obvious tax reasons)? Why can't they just not arrest people they find possessing or selling pot?
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Because the DEA can still arrest people - you can't trump the federal laws. While possible , I don't think the US govt will turn a blind eye to this and let it proceed unabated
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