Another school shooting

[Cloysterpeteuk]

Do Americans really love there firearms so much that they are willing to keep on letting such incidents as this happen rather than ban such firearms?.

You may say oh it's my constitutional right blah blah, but whats more important?, your right to own a gun or the rights of innocent kids to live?, because everyone of you pro gun fanactics are putting more kids in jeopardy because it's you guys standing against the laws which would prevent this from happening.

All other Western nations where firearms are banned have no problem with epidemics of school shootings so it's blantantly obvious what needs to happen to end this.

[Tetragrammaton]

Originally Posted by Crom

32 deaths, 24 injured. Who knows how many of the injured are critical.

How on Earth can any one person kill so many, so quickly with just firearms? It just staggers the mind.

So quickly? It seems that the sootings occurred over a three-four hour period in seperate locations. Any way you want to look at this, police failed to contain him.

This was only one man and lightly armed. It could have been much worse.

[DFury]

This is a truly sad event, so lets keep focused here, I understand everyone has there opinion on firearms. I for one am a Owner of 3 myself and enjoy going out to the range and target practice, I also enjoy taking my 15yr old with me, we discuss safety and other issues about firearms while we are out there.

Banning of all firearms is not the answer, I will try and find this article I recently read and post it..

Let us just grieve for the family's who lost loved ones today...

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[JM28Cardiff]

Guns dont kill people, people kill people, but maybe there would be less dead if the person only had access to a knife.

Why is it always schools?

[CessnaDriver]

Originally Posted by JM28Cardiff

Guns dont kill people, people kill people, but maybe there would be less dead if the person only had access to a knife.

Why is it always schools?

Because they are gun free zones.

Gun bill gets shot down by panel
HB 1572, which would have allowed handguns on college campuses, died in subcommittee.
http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/wb/xp-50658

"Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the [Virginia campus gun rights] bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus." -- The Roanoke Times, January 31, 2006



"Feeling" safe and actually being safer of course are two different things.
Sickening.




And before we bag on America too much...

Murders (per capita) by country
VIEW DATA: Totals Per capita
Definition Source Printable version

Bar Graph Map Correlations

Rank Countries Amount (top to bottom)
#1 Colombia: 0.617847 per 1,000 people
#2 South Africa: 0.496008 per 1,000 people
#3 Jamaica: 0.324196 per 1,000 people
#4 Venezuela: 0.316138 per 1,000 people
#5 Russia: 0.201534 per 1,000 people
#6 Mexico: 0.130213 per 1,000 people
#7 Estonia: 0.107277 per 1,000 people
#8 Latvia: 0.10393 per 1,000 people
#9 Lithuania: 0.102863 per 1,000 people
#10 Belarus: 0.0983495 per 1,000 people
#11 Ukraine: 0.094006 per 1,000 people
#12 Papua New Guinea: 0.0838593 per 1,000 people
#13 Kyrgyzstan: 0.0802565 per 1,000 people
#14 Thailand: 0.0800798 per 1,000 people
#15 Moldova: 0.0781145 per 1,000 people
#16 Zimbabwe: 0.0749938 per 1,000 people
#17 Seychelles: 0.0739025 per 1,000 people
#18 Zambia: 0.070769 per 1,000 people
#19 Costa Rica: 0.061006 per 1,000 people
#20 Poland: 0.0562789 per 1,000 people
#21 Georgia: 0.0511011 per 1,000 people
#22 Uruguay: 0.045082 per 1,000 people
#23 Bulgaria: 0.0445638 per 1,000 people
#24 United States: 0.042802 per 1,000 people
#25 Armenia: 0.0425746 per 1,000 people
#26 India: 0.0344083 per 1,000 people
#27 Yemen: 0.0336276 per 1,000 people
#28 Dominica: 0.0289733 per 1,000 people
#29 Azerbaijan: 0.0285642 per 1,000 people
#30 Finland: 0.0283362 per 1,000 people
#31 Slovakia: 0.0263303 per 1,000 people
#32 Romania: 0.0250784 per 1,000 people
#33 Portugal: 0.0233769 per 1,000 people
#34 Malaysia: 0.0230034 per 1,000 people
#35 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of: 0.0229829 per 1,000 people
#36 Mauritius: 0.021121 per 1,000 people
#37 Hungary: 0.0204857 per 1,000 people
#38 Korea, South: 0.0196336 per 1,000 people
#39 Slovenia: 0.0179015 per 1,000 people
#40 France: 0.0173272 per 1,000 people
#41 Czech Republic: 0.0169905 per 1,000 people
#42 Iceland: 0.0168499 per 1,000 people
#43 Australia: 0.0150324 per 1,000 people
#44 Canada: 0.0149063 per 1,000 people
#45 Chile: 0.014705 per 1,000 people
#46 United Kingdom: 0.0140633 per 1,000 people
#47 Italy: 0.0128393 per 1,000 people
#48 Spain: 0.0122456 per 1,000 people
#49 Germany: 0.0116461 per 1,000 people
#50 Tunisia: 0.0112159 per 1,000 people
#51 Netherlands: 0.0111538 per 1,000 people
#52 New Zealand: 0.0111524 per 1,000 people
#53 Denmark: 0.0106775 per 1,000 people
#54 Norway: 0.0106684 per 1,000 people
#55 Ireland: 0.00946215 per 1,000 people
#56 Switzerland: 0.00921351 per 1,000 people
#57 Indonesia: 0.00910842 per 1,000 people
#58 Greece: 0.0075928 per 1,000 people
#59 Hong Kong: 0.00550804 per 1,000 people
#60 Japan: 0.00499933 per 1,000 people
#61 Saudi Arabia: 0.00397456 per 1,000 people
#62 Qatar: 0.00115868 per 1,000 people
Weighted average: 0.1 per 1,000 people

[hawkeyethearcher]

its schools cause restaurants dont get as much news time. there were a lot of shootings at food establishments until those Columbine kids got all that airtime. it is already known that they do this to be noticed by people. for whatever reason they want to be noticed.they dont do it to kill for fun.


ah i love watching all the people who want to use the death of others to further their cause. it the fault of the movies and music once again. morons.

[CessnaDriver]

Originally Posted by hawkeyethearcher

its schools cause restaurants dont get as much news time. there were a lot of shootings at food establishments until those Columbine kids got all that airtime. it is already known that they do this to be noticed by people. for whatever reason they want to be noticed.they dont do it to kill for fun.


ah i love watching all the people who want to use the death of others to further their cause. it the fault of the movies and music once again. morons.

Problem is it is other peoples "causes" like shooting down the bill to carry self protection firearms on campus resulted in a slaughterhouse....

Is it ok then to to point it out?

Or should we just shut up and not be angry as hell?

[hawkeyethearcher]

Originally Posted by CessnaDriver

Problem is it is other peoples "causes" like shooting down the bill to carry self protection firearms on campus resulted in a slaughterhouse....

Is it ok then to to point it out?

Or should we just shut up and not be angry as hell?

those two things have nothing to do with eachother. one is a bill based in reality the others are entertainment at best based on someones point of view of reality. but if you think this happened cause people cant carry guns on campus well then how did this guy get a gun on campus. they dont check you at the door. if you are a student and you feel safer carrying dont let anyone know.

[CessnaDriver]

Originally Posted by hawkeyethearcher

those two things have nothing to do with eachother. one is a bill based in reality the others are entertainment at best based on someones point of view of reality. but if you think this happened cause people cant carry guns on campus well then how did this guy get a gun on campus. they dont check you at the door. if you are a student and you feel safer carrying dont let anyone know.

A student was busted for carrying but he had a permit so at least the police did not charge him.
The school would expel you for carrying.


We need to ENCOURAGE people to learn how to defend themselves.
Not everyone needs to carry. Just some, a few choose to.

[hawkeyethearcher]

man this reporter is getting a boner about this. he seems more excited about finding out if he is reporting about the worst shooting ever for schools than what is going on. i am done watching these news *****s.