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02-13-2010, 08:12 AM
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Ultimates
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Philadelphia area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetragrammaton
Hey Cap's beaten Doom before.
Never judge a hero by his power level alone.
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Tet, really? I mean really?
Cap and Batman would be about as useful as a bobby pin in a "real war with Doom". I understand that people like these 2 and I'm one of them, but they're after thoughts if a villain went crazy.
I appreciate the "never judge a hero by his power level", but against a properly written Doom with his magic, tech and brains. Cap or a character like Batman would be dressed in a french maid costume doing whatever Doom commands.
I'm just keeping it real...
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02-13-2010, 08:23 AM
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The Flash
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Montreal, Canada
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Since you asked.
Yeah, really!
Cap is so accustomed to fighting out of his weight class that against the real big threat, I'd sooner go to him than the Thors and the Hulks of the Marvel Universe for the win.
But I will give you that Doom's particular skill and power set makes him one of the most difficult opponents for any hero.
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02-13-2010, 08:45 AM
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#43
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Ultimates
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Location: Philadelphia area
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Hulk or Thor vs Cap should last 1 full panel and end with Cap being squished or crushed. Cap is a fan favorite and cool because he really has no powers. I get it as I'm a fan of the rodent, but when push comes to shove. They're simply outclassed in raw power. It's like the Black Panther putting the SS in a choke hold and beating him. Come on!
A character who has the power to blow up earth 10x over against a guy from a tribe in Africa?
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02-14-2010, 12:44 AM
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What happens if you get scared half to death twice?
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Michigan USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HalJordanFan
Captain America?? Seriously?? If that is who is standing between Doom and world domination. Then we're screwed!
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I say Captain America because like Dr Doom he is a tactician. His ability to out think his foes is legendary. He has even given Red Skull the boot a time or two. And Red Skull is at least as dangerous as Doom. Minus the magic edge of course.
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02-14-2010, 01:52 AM
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Have you ever imagined a world with no hypothetical situations?
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Location: Tampa
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Dr. Doom is a cool villain - But Dr.Strange is still my fav sorcerer.
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02-14-2010, 11:02 AM
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#46
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Have you ever imagined a world with no hypothetical situations?
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Sydney Australia
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great thread and posts guys!
love the discussion!
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02-14-2010, 01:04 PM
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Ultimates
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Philadelphia area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roguewarrior
I say Captain America because like Dr Doom he is a tactician. His ability to out think his foes is legendary. He has even given Red Skull the boot a time or two. And Red Skull is at least as dangerous as Doom. Minus the magic edge of course.
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How is someone like the Red Skull as dangerous as Dr Doom? He's nowhere near his intelligence level, power level, has no magic or tech like Doom.
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02-14-2010, 02:01 PM
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Yeah, I spend WAY too much time here!
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HalJordanFan
How is someone like the Red Skull as dangerous as Dr Doom? He's nowhere near his intelligence level, power level, has no magic or tech like Doom.
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I agree.
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02-14-2010, 03:06 PM
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Cosmic Art Collector
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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Doom is the villain version of Batman. IF he has enough time to plan for what he KNOWS is coming, than most writers will allow them to win because it's what's expected.
But let's be serious for a moment. If Thanos wanted to kill Doom, it would be done. Thanos is Doom to the 100th power in terms of raw power, magic (yes, Thanos has mystical abilities), intelligence, experience, psychic powers, technology... "anything you can do, I can do better!".
The same thing with the whole Batman fiasco. If it really came down to Superman or Captain Marvel or someone with a high power set wanting Batman dead, he would be dead. Hell, the Flash could approach at near light speed and throw a pebble at Batman and there's nothing Bats could do while the pebble went through his head.
The only reason Doom (or Batman) can beat anyone is that the stories are written that way. Take a realistic look at different powers and abilities within each universe and you'll see that these guys would be toast if the crap really hit the fan.
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02-14-2010, 03:22 PM
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Yeah, I spend WAY too much time here!
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I'd take Thanos over anyone except Chuck Norris.
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