Batman The Dark Knight Returns PF

[nearmint]

Originally Posted by jpuli28

Theres a DKIII statue?

Yep, the Master Race piece where he's standing on the giant eagle head.

[Phoenixblazes]

Originally Posted by jpuli28

Theres a DKIII statue?

Yes and no.

It’s licensed under DKIII, probably because of the comic cover, but storywise I believe it’s still based off of the first one and not the third one.

Though I don’t believe I’ve ever read the third one, as all the TPB’s or hardcovers I bought only ever included the first two at the time.

[gra007]

Originally Posted by SONICobra

Unfortunately it?s just a flawed concept, especially for a large scale statue. In the original art that skinny bolt of lightning is miles away, now he?s attached to it. This is going to look really weird from any other angle than what they have already shown. It comes across as him sliding down a chunk of ice rather than jumping through the night with a bolt of lightning behind him

The sculpt on Batman himself looks pretty fantastic, I really like the look of the portrait, cowl and cape in particular

This is my feeling too. I don?t know if it?s going to look good from any other angle than this one shown, or a direct side view. I feel like there?s no displaying this anywhere past this 3/4 view to his left side.

The sculpt is nice, but doesn?t floor me. There?s a lot of odd shapes going on in his chest, especially that right pec and the sunken ribs and mentioned above. DK bats didn?t have a really craggy modern Miller face either. His art was still clean then. This looks like it?s based on more recent Miller bat-faces.

[gomur]

Wish they had properly executed the Yellow Oval Comic Bats.

They seem to have done justice to Frank Miller's Batman - though they again take liberties with the belt.

[Peedi]

Originally Posted by Mister H

The rib area underneath his left pec looks off. Seems sort of sunken in.

Yeah that is weird looking anatomy. Both sides seem to be like that though.

[becakbagus]

Originally Posted by gomur

Wish they had properly executed the Yellow Oval Comic Bats.

They seem to have done justice to Frank Miller's Batman - though they again take liberties with the belt.

this looks very cool

[AC_808]

The Frank Miller Batman was never my favorite version anyway, so this has no impact on me. The sculpt is ok, I guess.

[Divo]

Originally Posted by becakbagus

this looks very cool

Man, don't understand the pushback on this one, as I now consider it a masterpiece. If not a masterpiece, definitely the most finely detailed & the best, coolest representation of this Miller bats take. And an extra plus is that Miller's design obviously lends itself well to a buff Bats, with Bel sculpting a magnificent version, with really strong influences of Martin Canale screaming throughout. Masterful work.

As for the lightening bolt drama? Laughable at best. I mean if any of the critics/complainers actually swallowed the horrendous base, & tacky tubing from the Freeze statue(?), (as I have), we should easily be able to devour, & enjoy this outstanding offering, at an even cheaper price! A no-brainer.

Don't get needlessly blinded by a bolt of light, instead rejoice in this bloodied, battered, bat-clawed wielding, buffed-out the darkest of knights.

P.S. As always, my only "complaint" with these leaping/flying poses is the lack of height/loft provided. If Sideshow could reasonably maximize the heights of these flying type poses, it would add so much more to the very sense of presence of these statues. If the Lightening bolt could somehow be narrowed to it's extreme, and elongated even further, to it's "reasonable" maximum? Would provide more viewing/display angles, would more closely mimic a narrow lightening strike adding to the effect, and lastly provide that lacking loft, which would literally take this sculpt to the top.

Provided Sideshow can somehow use a material that's strong enough to support the figure, and narrow the width of the bolt to it's max, it can be done.

[SkilledButton]

Originally Posted by Divo

Man, don't understand the pushback on this one, as I now consider it a masterpiece. If not a masterpiece, definitely the most finely detailed & the best, coolest representation of this Miller bats take. And an extra plus is that Miller's design obviously lends itself well to a buff Bats, with Bel sculpting a magnificent version, with really strong influences of Martin Canale screaming throughout. Masterful work.

As for the lightening bolt drama? Laughable at best. I mean if any of the critics/complainers actually swallowed the horrendous base, & tacky tubing from the Freeze statue(?), (as I have), we should easily be able to devour, & enjoy this outstanding offering, at an even cheaper price! A no-brainer.

Don't get needlessly blinded by a bolt of light, instead rejoice in this bloodied, battered, bat-clawed wielding, buffed-out the darkest of knights.

Kinda the thing about opinions man, we all have different ones.

I really don't like this piece at all, but I haven't said much since the reveal because I don't want to suck any enjoyment from others who are POing this and looking forward to it.

Since it IS just an opinion, I really wanted to like this and .... I really don't. I don't like the anatomy on Batman, even though yes, its very Frank Miller and anyone can see that, I just think it looks really off. I also hate the bolt, it looks tacky. Just my opinion, since you made the comment about it. If you are happy with it, think it's great and are buying it, awesome! Glad you do, hopefully it turns out nice in production. Just not my style, not my Batman and I'd have strongly considered buying this, if it wasn't plastered to a weird lightning bolt and had a different pose but again, to each their own... At the cost of buying these things, I need to love it, not think it's just ok. So, unfortunately for me, the long wait continues.

[ilsensine]

Originally Posted by Divo

Man, don't understand the pushback on this one, as I now consider it a masterpiece. If not a masterpiece, definitely the most finely detailed & the best, coolest representation of this Miller bats take.

Well, I'll try to explain, at least from my point of view. Primarily, for me, it is because the movement is all wrong, the ice shard is goofy, and in general it just doesn't translate well.

For example, the individual parts are mostly good, and I like the head sculpt, but the more you try to make sense of the piece as a whole, the more issues you see. The differences between the pose/base/lightning bolt versus the comic cover actually have a huge impact on what it looks like he is doing.

As someone else said, it looks like he is sliding down a shard of ice. Of course, he is attached to it, because they had to attach him to something, but the pose itself looks more like he is doing a vertical jump, straight up from the gargoyle just a couple feet below him. That totally destroys the cover's negative space in which he is flying through a distant sky.

If they could fix the lightning bolt and then instead of a gargoyle base make it some miniature rooftops or something (for example, the way Iron Studios did it with their 1/10 Dark Knight and Robin) then that might better translate. As it is, to me it looks like he is jumping up in surprise as a giant shard of ice bursts through the gargoyle below him.

I'll withhold final judgment until more pics/angles, but I actually think it's going to get worse as this is probably the best angle. And as it is zoomed in, we are really fixating on the figure itself, which is the best part. I think it will be a lot worse when you back up, particularly if next to other statues, when the relative size of the ice shard and base (more than one half the total height of the statue) is harder to ignore.