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10-23-2021, 01:36 PM
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#101
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What's another word for Thesaurus?
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: DC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Subby1938
Will it look cool with Hulkbuster? Yeah if you have Hulkbuster . I bought Hulk Transformation to display with Hulkbuster so what is point of C list Character dwarfing my other two grails ?
There is none!
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That's what I don't understand about this piece. Why make an absolute showstopper of a piece... of a C-list character?
You'd think War Machine would be perfect for a simpler piece that can finally check of that box and then complement any other Marvel pieces you want.
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10-23-2021, 02:01 PM
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#102
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The InJustice League
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Dublin, OH
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saberhagen
That's what I don't understand about this piece. Why make an absolute showstopper of a piece... of a C-list character?
You'd think War Machine would be perfect for a simpler piece that can finally check of that box and then complement any other Marvel pieces you want.
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Agree wholeheartedly. It would be like if SSC made a huge Beast Boy as an Elephant statue. It may look really cool but is Beast Boy popular enough for it to make sense?
I know Rhodey has some fans but I can't see this selling that many pieces. It is not Batman or Iron Man or Wolverine. And again, I am not against the beauty of this piece - this looks amazing. I'm just not giving up the cash and space for War Machine.
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10-23-2021, 02:54 PM
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#103
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What's another word for Thesaurus?
Join Date: Aug 2020
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iko Iko
Agree wholeheartedly. It would be like if SSC made a huge Beast Boy as an Elephant statue. It may look really cool but is Beast Boy popular enough for it to make sense?
I know Rhodey has some fans but I can't see this selling that many pieces. It is not Batman or Iron Man or Wolverine. And again, I am not against the beauty of this piece - this looks amazing. I'm just not giving up the cash and space for War Machine.
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Not just the space, the space as the centerpiece
The ambition is nice, but dropping a couple blockbusters every month is a bit much. Cost aside, these are verging into gallery territory, not home display. At least not a normal sized home.
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10-23-2021, 03:52 PM
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#104
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Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Gotham City
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Don't think C list status will matter for this. There's plenty of statue collectors that don't even read comics yet still collect.
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10-23-2021, 07:43 PM
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#105
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Borrow money from a pessimist, they don't expect it back.
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So far as big giant robot statues go with lots of LEDs and rivets, if war machine costs this, that means that if XM released the Sentinel vs X-Men piece today how much would that be? If any of this is inaccurate, I'm happy to be corrected.
6x 1/6 scale characters (£500 each, as that's how these now cost).
Sentinel between £2,700 - £3,000 - which sounds very very VERY conservative going by how much war machine and the batman white knight cost.
Nimrod say £300.
Total cost = £3,000 + £3,000 = £6,000. + £1,500 shipping. + 25% customs at £1,200. Total to doorstep = £8,700 ($12,000).
By comparison war machine is robbing the bank blind in broad day light without a mask.
The difference is the sentinel vs had an ES of 288 (remember the days of low ES?) and this has an ES of 4x that @ 1299 or so. Welcome to the new normal, folks
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10-23-2021, 09:43 PM
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#106
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Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.
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Location: United States
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Most people who aren't into comics will just see this as a gray and black Ironman with guns. War machine being a c-list character is irrelevant this just looks awesome.
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10-24-2021, 05:56 AM
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#107
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Scarlet Witch
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Europe/Germany
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Quote:
Originally Posted by worstgamerever
The difference is the sentinel vs had an ES of 288 (remember the days of low ES?) and this has an ES of 4x that @ 1299 or so. Welcome to the new normal, folks
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The ES is MTO to 1299. It´s a possible ES, not final.
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10-24-2021, 09:06 AM
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#108
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Legion of Super-Heroes
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Join Date: Jan 2017
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The other thing I’m seeing is conveniently the price just sky rocketed for a statue like this . Hulkbuster was a lot and I gambled on it . It pushed me to threshold on what I can afford , but with this coming out of factory at 4K plus shipping plus import it’s 6K+ all day and I don’t think that’s normal .
Again I love the concept and detail . I simply can’t afford this and people should be very concerned on where this hobby is going . Very rich collectors are getting into this game now , even famous artists and actors so it’s time soon to look at what was fun for me and ask , is it ?
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10-24-2021, 09:12 AM
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#109
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Green Goblin
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: High Hrothgar
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What’s so hard about offering just War Machine? P1 did this with Batman/Bat-bot.
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10-24-2021, 09:28 AM
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#110
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Borrow money from a pessimist, they don't expect it back.
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 756
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Subby1938
The other thing I’m seeing is conveniently the price just sky rocketed for a statue like this . Hulkbuster was a lot and I gambled on it . It pushed me to threshold on what I can afford , but with this coming out of factory at 4K plus shipping plus import it’s 6K+ all day and I don’t think that’s normal .
Again I love the concept and detail . I simply can’t afford this and people should be very concerned on where this hobby is going . Very rich collectors are getting into this game now , even famous artists and actors so it’s time soon to look at what was fun for me and ask , is it ?
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Subby is right. Exactly right.
$6,000 to a person's doorstep for this - and we have to calculate the TOTAL price, not just what is on the website - is a lot of money. Kids school fees for a term sort of money. We started this hobby having pieces come in at $250 - $500ish for the absolute grails, and those were a once a year event. And ES was so low that you could sell on - every time, even till date. Now, PCS has a 1/6 scale statue for $888 without shipping and customs. Oniri has a 1/4 scale Robocop for over $1,000 - for a museum pose. And XM has this for $6,000 for war machine that is at best C list. Some people will see this, drool and pay for it. But this for me is now in "kid in candy store" territory and there has to be a line - a time to stop. By this time next year, if people keep buying 1/4 scale statues in museum pose will be $2,000. And collectors will smile, buy and defend the companies.
Say someone buys this, $6,000 all in for a UK collector. How much can they possibly sell this on for? Having the statue cost so much, with the ES so high is killing the secondary market.
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