P1 - SSC Debacle

[SteveL.]

Originally Posted by gagaliya

It’s easy to figure out, just plug in your box weight and dimension to ups ground calculator - that’s your retail price.

Most small business who ships a few items a day gets 50% off retail with their ups accounts, I have that. Amazon gets about 80%+ off the retail rates I know because I also in their fba seller program that can use amazon rates to ship. Sideshow is probably in between my guess is around 65-75% off retail rates, they have huge volume.

They jacked up the shipping since last year significantly - a PF box now cost $50+ to east coast used to be $30, but ups didn’t increase their rates anywhere close to that much, like a few bucks only.

P1 shipping rates from sideshow per above posts just seem completely insane. $120 per box to east coast via ups ground? Laughable....

UPS and FedEX and USPS have all changed their DIM weight formula since last year.That results in higher rates for the same size packages a year earlier. Online shipping calculators are not going to tell you what these companies have to actually pay to ship your items. You can't find that info using that method.

[Cmac]

Originally Posted by SteveL.

UPS and FedEX and USPS have all changed their DIM weight formula since last year.That results in higher rates for the same size packages a year earlier. Online shipping calculators are not going to tell you what these companies have to actually pay to ship your items. You can't find that info using that method.

It's not about what it cost them to send it. Any company that does large amounts of shipping will get tiered discounts.

What I want to know is if what they are charging is accurate to the base shipping price. When you login to UPS or FedEx, they give you the base shipping charge based off dimensions and weight. They then apply discounts based off your company profile.

Sideshow may have well been giving discounts to shipping prior to recently; or maybe they were not. A lot of charges have gone up recently. That said, I'm having trouble believing what they are charging to send 2 boxes to the east coast is the same as what Prime 1 charges to send by mail halfway around the world. Sideshow may be overcharging or Prime 1 may be undercharging, but I want to know and not just pay something blindly.

[SteveL.]

Originally Posted by Cmac

It's not about what it cost them to send it. Any company that does large amounts of shipping will get tiered discounts.

What I want to know is if what they are charging is accurate to the base shipping price. When you login to UPS or FedEx, they give you the base shipping charge based off dimensions and weight. They then apply discounts based off your company profile.

Sideshow may have well been giving discounts to shipping prior to recently; or maybe they were not. A lot of charges have gone up recently. That said, I'm having trouble believing what they are charging to send 2 boxes to the east coast is the same as what Prime 1 charges to send by mail halfway around the world. Sideshow may be overcharging or Prime 1 may be undercharging, but I want to know and not just pay something blindly.

You aren't going to get "accurate" info that way. Trying to guesstimate without accurate data won't allow you to prove anything one way or the other. The accurate information is only known between SS and the shipping carriers.

Good luck trying to prove that they are illegally overcharging for shipping using guesstimates of what you think the cost is vs. what they charge, without any actual accurate data.

That's never going to fly.

[Phoenixblazes]

Originally Posted by SteveL.

You aren't going to get "accurate" info that way. Trying to guesstimate without accurate data won't allow you to prove anything one way or the other. The accurate information is only known between SS and the shipping carriers.

Good luck trying to prove that they are illegally overcharging for shipping using guesstimates of what you think the cost is vs. what they charge, without any actual accurate data.

That's never going to fly.

The only thing we’ll be able to find out is how much it would cost the collector to send the parcel themselves. Essentially a price ceiling, but as you said nothing much else.

[chavez553]

We won’t need to prove anything. Sideshow already proves their shady business practices themselves. If your customer base suspects you’re doing something, then they are probably doing something. Everything they do seems shady. It’s one thing to maximize your business to the fullest, cutting extreme corners, but when you’re a company like Sideshow and it comes to losing money, you start doing even more shady ----. Illegal ----.

If you can’t believe they’re skimming off the shipping, week answer me this, why the hell does a massive company like Sideshow (with what I’m sure is a giant warehouse) doesn’t have a will call?? You have a freaking warehouse with no will call for local customers to pick up their items?? If they charge high shipping and they have no will call for local customers, if that’s not even remotely suspicious, I don’t know what is..

To me, Sideshow, the massive collectibles company, is operating like a Dotcom company from the 00s

No ----ing joke.

[chavez553]

Does anyone know Sideshows net worth?

[Cmac]

Originally Posted by SteveL.

You aren't going to get "accurate" info that way. Trying to guesstimate without accurate data won't allow you to prove anything one way or the other. The accurate information is only known between SS and the shipping carriers.

Good luck trying to prove that they are illegally overcharging for shipping using guesstimates of what you think the cost is vs. what they charge, without any actual accurate data.

That's never going to fly.

What's not accurate? If you have the actual dimensions and weight, you should be able to get a shipping charge. There is no guessing. Base shipping charges can be calculated. The pricing tier is something else, but I'm not concerned about that.

If Sideshow's charges are higher than what I get plugging the numbers into the system, there's a problem.

[BlackestNight]

Originally Posted by chavez553

We won’t need to prove anything. Sideshow already proves their shady business practices themselves. If your customer base suspects you’re doing something, then they are probably doing something. Everything they do seems shady. It’s one thing to maximize your business to the fullest, cutting extreme corners, but when you’re a company like Sideshow and it comes to losing money, you start doing even more shady ----. Illegal ----.

If you can’t believe they’re skimming off the shipping, week answer me this, why the hell does a massive company like Sideshow (with what I’m sure is a giant warehouse) doesn’t have a will call?? You have a freaking warehouse with no will call for local customers to pick up their items?? If they charge high shipping and they have no will call for local customers, if that’s not even remotely suspicious, I don’t know what is..

To me, Sideshow, the massive collectibles company, is operating like a Dotcom company from the 00s

No ----ing joke.

No "Will call" is common. The company would than need to insure itself for onsite customers which is a huge increase over standard office / warehouse insurance, way more liability.

[Blacksunn]

Originally Posted by chavez553

Does anyone know Sideshows net worth?

Private company, so no...

[ukshaun]

Originally Posted by chavez553

Does anyone know Sideshows net worth?

Their worth in nets? fishing nets for example..
Probably quite a bit