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View Poll Results: Can Juggernaut Pull Thor's hammer?
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Juggernaut pulls the hammer and claims Nothing can Stop The Juggernaut
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10 |
17.24% |
Juggernaut can't do it Mjolnir can't be moved by no living being.
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37 |
63.79% |
Adamantium cable snaps in two.
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9 |
15.52% |
The Earth shatters under the stain with no winner.
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4 |
6.90% |
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10-01-2008, 01:30 PM
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#41
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Cyclops
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Maryland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Natrix
Juggs would be able to drag Mjolnir because the ground beneath the hammer would give away and the hammer would slide and drag also he wouldn't have direct contact with it. Lifting it would be another story.
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I don't think Juggs would be able to drag Mjolnir the ground would give way under his feet before he moved the hammer.
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10-01-2008, 01:54 PM
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#42
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Yeah, I spend WAY too much time here!
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I think the adamantium would snap under the pressure.
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10-01-2008, 02:00 PM
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#43
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Cyclops
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Maryland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichBamf
I think the adamantium would snap under the pressure.
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Primary? I think not the earth would give way long before that happens. What we have here is a Mexican stand off. There are 3 tested and true icons in the Marvel U.
1.) Juggs who can't be stopped,
2.) Mjolnir which can't be lifted
3.) Adamantium which can't break.
When these 3 things come into conflict either a stalemate occurs or something gives.
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10-01-2008, 02:00 PM
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#44
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Imperial Guardsman
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Work: Chandrilar Home: Strontia
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Originally Posted by Makkari1
You honestly believe Juggs can take down Odin or Zeus? Dude I've lost you to madness.
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Nah, you ain't lost me....I'm just havin' a bit of fun on the Odin and Zeus comparison, (although, you must admit, the inconsistencies used when writing all these characters are so subjective to writers, and favorites, that it gets out of control.) I am one who likes consistency in the handling of all the characters, and I'm just tired of changes that take a character away from what they originally were created to be. I know that Odin and Zeus should be more powerful than Juggy, and are paramours with Cyttorak, and other characters of that power level.
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10-01-2008, 02:05 PM
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#45
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Cyclops
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Maryland
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Originally Posted by Meteor Man
Nah, you ain't lost me....I'm just havin' a bit of fun on the Odin and Zeus comparison, (although, you must admit, the inconsistencies used when writing all these characters are so subjective to writers, and favorites, that it gets out of control.) I am one who likes consistency in the handling of all the characters, and I'm just tired of changes that take a character away from what they originally were created to be. I know that Odin and Zeus should be more powerful than Juggy, and are paramours with Cyttorak, and other characters of that power level.
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You expect too much if you are looking consistency.
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10-01-2008, 02:09 PM
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#46
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Jedi Order
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 24,963
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Great question and some very well put arguments! I think Juggs would move the hammer!
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10-01-2008, 02:18 PM
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#47
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Imperial Guardsman
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Originally Posted by Bob Aboey
We gotta fight the good fight!
Listen, nothing in Marvel's history has upset me more the the continual sissification (Heck yeah, its a word!) of The Juggernaut. He is a borderline sociopath with inexpendable (yeah, that's a word, too!) strength and stamina. Furthermore, it has always been that way! (I'm looking at you, New Hulk that can breath underwater, regenerate, and perform microsurgery) Hulk falls to Juggernaut. Thor falls to Juggernaut. Wolverine is knocked into another dimension by Juggernaut. Juggernaut is unstopable! Get his helmet off and screw with his head... that I can accept because that is his weakness. But don't talk to me about standing toe to toe with him because the arguement is flawed at its inception. Even Superman falls to Juggernaut because of the whole magic thing...
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I agree with all these points. Juggernaut was created to be more invulnerable than the Hulk, Thor, Wolverine, or who ever. And, Superman should fall against Juggernaut because of DC's own Superman mandated weakness to magic, but that was cast aside and not even mentioned when Juggernaut faced Superman in that horrific Marvel DC crossover. I believe that Gladiator and Juggernaut both have such a high level of invulnerability that they could pound on each other for however long they wanted, and the same would be the case for Superman, if not for the magic weakness, but Juggernaut's invulnerable fists pounding on the Hulk head, or Thor's head, or Wolverine's head, the Thing, Colossus, etc, should turn them into jello, and their fists pounding on him won't. That's the way they were all created and written, but now Hulk and Thor are being ramped up, and then of course, Marvel trashed Juggy for awile, but now that he's back up to full power, he should be what he was intended to be, an invulnerable, inexhaustible, engine of power that could tear the Hulk's head off. (Of course they wil never let him tear the Hulk's head off, because the Hulk is one of their highest money making properties, but on paper, he should be able to.)
I do know that there are several cosmic characters who could stop Juggy, but they should be Skyfather level and above, IMO.
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10-01-2008, 02:20 PM
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#48
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Imperial Guardsman
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Originally Posted by Makkari1
You expect too much if you are looking consistency.
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I know that you are looking for it too, cause I've read your posts since you came on this forum. Just because it doesn't exist at present, I'm hoping that quality control will be re-established some time in the future...hopefully the near future.
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10-01-2008, 02:26 PM
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#49
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Imperial Guardsman
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Originally Posted by Underdog07
Juggernaut would pull for one minute working up a full head of steam but he would not be moving and then (assuming this still happens) the hammer would change into a stick and Juggeranut would have built up so much kinetic energy that he would hurtle into space and smash into the sun, thereby dying.
Any other questions?
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No, no questions at all, just a statement. The sun wouldn't kill Juggy.
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10-01-2008, 02:33 PM
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#50
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Yeah, I spend WAY too much time here!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Natrix
Juggs would be able to drag Mjolnir because the ground beneath the hammer would give away and the hammer would slide and drag also he wouldn't have direct contact with it. Lifting it would be another story.
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this works for the blob as far as i am concerned.juggs would rip a huge chunk of ground out and pull that with the blob. thors hammer doesnt attach to the ground. it just cant be moved by anyone that is not worthy. it is a mystical ability that keeps it in place not an aura that attaches it to its surroundings. juggs cant pull it. any chain would break between him and the hammer. now a chain made by odin magic would not break and juggs little wimp butt would lose to any odin power every day.
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