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Old 01-18-2019, 11:13 PM   #1921
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Wait and see approach on this one for sure. Down the road shouldn't be tough with a 1k es.
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Old 01-19-2019, 07:14 AM   #1922
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I bought that at a toy store for my Rogue, just in case.
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Old 01-19-2019, 08:17 AM   #1923
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I share here the answer from SS Alex to my question about the engineering of the Rogue maquette concerning the stability of the piece after an extended period of time or even a short one :




I'd like to know what people think of that answer, because I find myself quite confused right now...

We still have no proof, I bought Magneto which seems very solid with a large metal peg to support his entire body, so I'm quite confident with this piece. And I'd like to feel the same way with Rogue but what scares me is her tiny little wrist as the only support for her entire body and there is no way you can put a large metal peg inside it.

Just in case, is there someone reading this post that have extended knowledge about this kind of things who could reassured me by telling me solutions exist for this kind of problem... one who is not involving a full lighter plastic rogue body for a $715 maquette
Polystone is resin with dust mixed in, lol. Pure resin is stronger BUT more expensive. Polystone is more brittle. You would be better off in solid resin.

Rogue, the actual figure is a rather small slender piece. Steel is strong. My knowledge of casting, makes me think there will be a single steel rod running from her body through her arm into the top of the buzzsaw arm which will key into a steel "sleeve" at the top thicker joint of the mechanical arm. The mechanical arm's steel "sleeve" or "tube", will probably run right into the base.

Look at the newest Joker Diagram they released, steel reenforced through out.

SSC (or any toy company) wants to sell many many pieces, now and well into the future. they are not trying to create bad PR for themselves.

I've been molding and casting for the past 12 years, with steel reinforcements through small ankles holding large rotund bodies for the past 6 years .
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Old 01-19-2019, 08:21 AM   #1924
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Wait and see approach on this one for sure. Down the road shouldn't be tough with a 1k es.
..and that's just for the EX
Since i don't see a need to own the EX Rogue, holding off makes total sense, if only to see how the piece turns out, to see if there are any issues, and see if it makes any sales (-$50 or free shipping etc)
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Old 01-19-2019, 11:20 AM   #1925
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Polystone is resin with dust mixed in, lol. Pure resin is stronger BUT more expensive. Polystone is more brittle. You would be better off in solid resin.

Rogue, the actual figure is a rather small slender piece. Steel is strong. My knowledge of casting, makes me think there will be a single steel rod running from her body through her arm into the top of the buzzsaw arm which will key into a steel "sleeve" at the top thicker joint of the mechanical arm. The mechanical arm's steel "sleeve" or "tube", will probably run right into the base.

Look at the newest Joker Diagram they released, steel reenforced through out.

SSC (or any toy company) wants to sell many many pieces, now and well into the future. they are not trying to create bad PR for themselves.

I've been molding and casting for the past 12 years, with steel reinforcements through small ankles holding large rotund bodies for the past 6 years .
Thanks a lot for your extended, detailed and well explained answer, you are exactly the person that I was targeting at the end of my previous post !

You managed to give me one plausible resolution to the engineering problem, which was all I was asking for. So now I can at least have hope again that it is indeed possible to achieve this Rogue maquette successfully.

Thank you again for taking the time to answer me, it was nice of you !
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Old 01-19-2019, 12:37 PM   #1926
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Polystone is resin with dust mixed in, lol. Pure resin is stronger BUT more expensive. Polystone is more brittle. You would be better off in solid resin.

Rogue, the actual figure is a rather small slender piece. Steel is strong. My knowledge of casting, makes me think there will be a single steel rod running from her body through her arm into the top of the buzzsaw arm which will key into a steel "sleeve" at the top thicker joint of the mechanical arm. The mechanical arm's steel "sleeve" or "tube", will probably run right into the base.

Look at the newest Joker Diagram they released, steel reenforced through out.

SSC (or any toy company) wants to sell many many pieces, now and well into the future. they are not trying to create bad PR for themselves.

I've been molding and casting for the past 12 years, with steel reinforcements through small ankles holding large rotund bodies for the past 6 years .
I've built plenty of resin models over the years, pegging everything. I have said this numerous times before, running a rod through that skinny wrist with the body running horizontally with all the weight pulling down vertically is going to cause what little material is surrounding the rod to crack and splinter. Skinny ankles holding up a body pushing straight down is different than a huge amount of torque being placed on a weak pivot. I am not at all comfortable with this BUT I pre-ordered two anyway just in case one fails.
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Old 01-19-2019, 02:43 PM   #1927
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I've built plenty of resin models over the years, pegging everything. I have said this numerous times before, running a rod through that skinny wrist with the body running horizontally with all the weight pulling down vertically is going to cause what little material is surrounding the rod to crack and splinter. Skinny ankles holding up a body pushing straight down is different than a huge amount of torque being placed on a weak pivot. I am not at all comfortable with this BUT I pre-ordered two anyway just in case one fails.
Your are assuming the choosen rod will flex. If the chosen rod running through the structure is strong enough, which it easily can be, there will be no breaking.
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Old 01-19-2019, 03:13 PM   #1928
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Does anyone happen to have the photo that showed how the connection in to the base would work? I remember there was a BTS photo showing it.
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Old 01-19-2019, 07:00 PM   #1929
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Your are assuming the choosen rod will flex. If the chosen rod running through the structure is strong enough, which it easily can be, there will be no breaking.
It's a reasonable assumption though, one I hope I am wrong about. Please understand, I'm not just bashing this. I did order two of these because Rogue is my favorite character and I don't wan't to take chances.
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Old 01-22-2019, 12:21 AM   #1930
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Watching the sideshow live with IGO and this piece again. “Cajun or Russian” was mentioned. Was it just a huge tease, or do you guys think we should expect Gambit and Colossus?
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