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Old 05-19-2007, 11:00 PM   #11
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That was the best part of the film. There were some great parts in the movie, don't get me wrong, I didn't hate it, I just thought it was a bit slow and plodding like they were filling in the space for time.

The cop in the film was pretty hilarious. I love schlock cinema, and this movie was great for MST3King. I think there is worse out there in the way of movies, like "Children Shouldn't Play With Dead Things", and others.
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Old 05-20-2007, 10:57 AM   #12
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I think there is worse out there in the way of movies, like "Children Shouldn't Play With Dead Things", and others.
Again sir, I call you insane, inane, and downright insulting to the genre.

Children shouldn't play with dead things? Or should they?



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Old 05-20-2007, 11:22 AM   #13
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Old 05-20-2007, 11:25 AM   #14
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Old 05-20-2007, 11:40 AM   #15
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I think there is worse out there in the way of movies, like "Children Shouldn't Play With Dead Things", and others.
I've gotta agree with WP on this one, CSPWDT is one of the greatest Zombie flicks ever made IMO (right up there behind the original Night and Dawn). For no other reason than the tilted fish-eye camera shots in the graveyard when the bodies start coming out of the ground, and the acid-trip music in the background. Plus, it actually had a cast with distinct personalities that could act.

Bit 'o trivia: Jeff Gillen, the fat guy who played (oddly enough) Jeff in CSPWDT, also played Santa Claus in "A Christmas Story". Both movies had the same director, Bob Clark.
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Old 05-20-2007, 02:44 PM   #16
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You guys do realize we're talking about shlock cinema right? B-grade horror films are the stuff of Friday Night popcorn fests, and much alcohol consumption. I love bad horror films. There are really very few good Horror films, because of the very nature of the genre.

If you watch movies like Dawn of the Dead, Day Of the Dead, Night Of The Living Dead, they're done very seriously. What was interesting about the first release of Night Of The Living Dead, was that there was no musical score, and it had this feel of being more of a documentary, moreso than a horror film. That was by far and away the most terrifying part of the movie for me.

Horror by its very nature isn't an alley full of severed heads. You already know what happened to those people, they're dead. Now, if it were an alley full of severed feet, that would intimate true horror as the people who lost those feet could still very well be alive, and suffering God knows what torments.

I didn't say that Childrend Shouldn't Play With Dead Things was a bad film, it just wasn't a good one. When I was 7 years old and saw it as a kid, it scared the bejeezus out of me. When I saw it again on DVD, some 30 years later, it was pretty laughable. The acting was decent, the effects were good, and the camera work was also good, but the story in of itself was adequate. There was some good dialogue, and some good interaction between the cast, but over all, it was just not done the justice it needed to be done in order to launch it from being mediocre, to a great film.

I love the genre, moreso than most, and having seen well over 300 different zombie, or zombie related films, I don't base my critiques on just the latest Romero remakes.

Take for instance, Land Of The Dead. One of the worst Zombie films ever made in my mind. They spend an hour and a half killing every zombie they can find, and yet, at the end they let the zombie horde leave the city, because after all, they're just like us, they're looking for a place to go. A PLACE TO GO AND EAT MORE PEOPLE!!!

Zombie movies are about the loss of one's identity, and being consumed by forces that are much larger than themselves, and the inevitability that no matter what, you're going to be consumed one way or another, whether it's on their terms or yours.

Some of these movies have all of the things I look for in a Zombie movie, and some of them don't. I guess it's all subjective as to what people look for in their entertainment.
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Old 05-20-2007, 04:24 PM   #17
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Land of the Dead should never have been made, so we agree there for sure. Rmoero shot his load twenty years ago with Day.


Children is not the Amadeus of Zombiedome. Just fun and creepy, and I too saw it first as a young lad. WWOR channel 9 in NYC used to run it all the time late night when I was in my early teens. It is actually the single film that sent me over the edge from normal kid to horror freak. And it does indeed have wicked cool camera angles and slow-mo shots.

Alan Orsmby is the bestest besty best of the best. Bar none.

I would not say it is among the best Zombie films, I say it is among my favorite films.

How come you never sculpt zombies, Tommy?
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