The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies (Formerly "There and Back Again)

[metroid]

Originally Posted by nbr3bagshotrow

I was more disappointed with Desolation of Smaug. All that stuff with Smaug in the end was never in the book and I thought it was way overdone. Didn't like how they portrayed Bard. Bard was the leader of Laketown and they made him look more like a villain/untrusted member of the city. Don't like how they are building up the "big crossbow" for taking down Smaug. Bard had his "black arrow" and it was his skill as a bowman which is being downplayed. Laketown was never attacked. The river scene was ridiculous. The dwarves and Bilbo were trapped by the woodelves for months. Movie made it look like within a matter of hours they were able to escape. I can see stretching this into 2 movies. The Hobbit is no where near as good as the LOTR. Sort of like Star Wars Original Trilogy to the pre-quels. They just aren't as good.

I think there is a little misunderstanding because of quotes but oh well...

[jsnchrry]

Originally Posted by nbr3bagshotrow

I was more disappointed with Desolation of Smaug. All that stuff with Smaug in the end was never in the book and I thought it was way overdone. Didn't like how they portrayed Bard. Bard was the leader of Laketown and they made him look more like a villain/untrusted member of the city. Don't like how they are building up the "big crossbow" for taking down Smaug. Bard had his "black arrow" and it was his skill as a bowman which is being downplayed. Laketown was never attacked. The river scene was ridiculous. The dwarves and Bilbo were trapped by the woodelves for months. Movie made it look like within a matter of hours they were able to escape. I can see stretching this into 2 movies. The Hobbit is no where near as good as the LOTR. Sort of like Star Wars Original Trilogy to the pre-quels. They just aren't as good.

I see what you mean. I do agree with you that the source material was still nowhere near as interesting as the LOTR. Still they were enjoyable films for what they are.

[Spideristic]

https://www.facebook.com/PeterJackso...8?stream_ref=1

From Peter Jackson's FB page:

"Inside Information...

Our journey to make The Hobbit Trilogy has been in some ways like Bilbo's own, with hidden paths revealing their secrets to us as we've gone along. “There and Back Again” felt like the right name for the second of a two film telling of the quest to reclaim Erebor, when Bilbo’s arrival there, and departure, were both contained within the second film. But with three movies, it suddenly felt misplaced—after all, Bilbo has already arrived “there” in the "Desolation of Smaug".

When we did the premiere trip late last year, I had a quiet conversation with the studio about the idea of revisiting the title. We decided to keep an open mind until a cut of the film was ready to look at. We reached that point last week, and after viewing the movie, we all agreed there is now one title that feels completely appropriate.

And so: "The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies" it is.

As Professor Tolkien intended, “There and Back Again” encompasses Bilbo’s entire adventure, so don’t be surprised if you see it used on a future box-set of all three movies.

Before then however, we have a film to finish, and much to share with you. It’s been a nice quiet time for us—Jabez and I happily editing away in a dark cave in Wellington—but those halcyon days are quickly coming to an end. It will soon be time to step into the light. Expect to see and hear much about The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies in the coming months.

And there’s also The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug Extended Cut, which we’re in the process of finishing, with over 25 mins of new scenes, all scored with original music composed by Howard Shore.

It’ll be a fun year! "

[metroid]

Originally Posted by Spideristic

https://www.facebook.com/PeterJackso...8?stream_ref=1

From Peter Jackson's FB page:

"Inside Information...

Our journey to make The Hobbit Trilogy has been in some ways like Bilbo's own, with hidden paths revealing their secrets to us as we've gone along. “There and Back Again” felt like the right name for the second of a two film telling of the quest to reclaim Erebor, when Bilbo’s arrival there, and departure, were both contained within the second film. But with three movies, it suddenly felt misplaced—after all, Bilbo has already arrived “there” in the "Desolation of Smaug".

When we did the premiere trip late last year, I had a quiet conversation with the studio about the idea of revisiting the title. We decided to keep an open mind until a cut of the film was ready to look at. We reached that point last week, and after viewing the movie, we all agreed there is now one title that feels completely appropriate.

And so: "The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies" it is.

As Professor Tolkien intended, “There and Back Again” encompasses Bilbo’s entire adventure, so don’t be surprised if you see it used on a future box-set of all three movies.

Before then however, we have a film to finish, and much to share with you. It’s been a nice quiet time for us—Jabez and I happily editing away in a dark cave in Wellington—but those halcyon days are quickly coming to an end. It will soon be time to step into the light. Expect to see and hear much about The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies in the coming months.

And there’s also The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug Extended Cut, which we’re in the process of finishing, with over 25 mins of new scenes, all scored with original music composed by Howard Shore.

It’ll be a fun year! "

In short, the film is now retitled as The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies.

[Quicksilver]

Can't wait for desolation EE

[nbr3bagshotrow]

Originally Posted by Quicksilver

Can't wait for desolation EE

maybe another 25 minutes of river rafting.

[metroid]

Originally Posted by nbr3bagshotrow

maybe another 25 minutes of river rafting.

Or 25 more minutes of dwarves playing hide and seek with Smaug.

[DynamicMenace]

thats why i gave it a 6. could have been better i thought. i agree with N on the whole smaug stuff being made up for the film. i remember the old animated film and i was waiting for Bilbo to ask him riddles and such. but it never happened.

[Sithlord32]

Originally Posted by DynamicMenace

thats why i gave it a 6. could have been better i thought. i agree with N on the whole smaug stuff being made up for the film. i remember the old animated film and i was waiting for Bilbo to ask him riddles and such. but it never happened.

i dont think he asked him riddles in the animated feature that was Gollum was it not? the riddling done with Smaug was still carried out in the same manner by all the sir names he gave himself in their conversation. Seems all the dialogue from the animated feature was in there for the most part.

[metroid]