well a month or so ago I came across art my Tim Fischer, I set up 5 gotham gals pieces and I was excited as his style is quirky and I knew they should come out cool. Well he sent me prelims pretty fast and the first 3 looked great but he did Batgirl with a Batarang and I dont like batarangs in pieces soo. I mentioned that he fixed it and she came out like I wanted. He showed me prelims of the Harley, Huntress and Catwoman as well liked all of those he sent me a prelim of the Ivy and it was just not doing it for me but I was hoping it was just the prelim.. well he finished her and she sadly looked like a shemale She hulk not the sultry female that Ivy should be so I told him I was not happy with how she came out. and he said
Hey, Lee. Thank you for your honesty. I certainly don't want you to be dissatisfied as a client.
Unfortunately, it's too late in the game to make any changes to the finished piece. Copic markers and colored pencils aren't exactly erasable. As per your request, I sent you a thumbnail/sketch for approval, and you replied that "...both (to include the Harley Quinn sketch) look real good..." and your only guidance for the Poison Ivy illustration was, "Typical costume."
If you aren't satisfied with, and do not want the Poison Ivy piece, that is completely fine. I can try to sell it or I'll post it for auction. We can count the money that you've already paid for the Poison Ivy piece as payoff for one of the other four commissions. If you'd like, we can arrange for me to make another attempt at the character at a later date.
Please let me know what you would prefer to do. Like I said, I don't want you to be dissatisfied as a client.
So I told him that I still wanted an Ivy from him so that he does not loose money that he could sell the Ivy and that I would let him keep 50% of the deposit and that I would pay for another full piece ( so I am giving away money as he gets to sell that one and I am paying for half a piece that he is selling) So he finishes the Harley and Catwoman and they both come out great, in fact I love the Catwoman..
yeah yeah long story
so he sends me a prelim of another Ivy and this one just does not work either (its still in semi rough sketch no inks no markers etc.) and I say that the pose is odd
Tim
"Face looks way better but maybe her reclining on the tree the position just looks odd, I am soo not trying to be a pain I promise just when I show off the pieces to other collectors I want to say how happy I was with each piece."
well I get this back yesterday
Lee, could you please send me your mailing address? It wasn't included in your PayPal information, for some reason. I'm going to send you the three illustrations that I've already completed for you, and I'm going to end this arrangement. For the DEEPLY discounted price of $60, I'm not going to make a third attempt at a design for you.
You've sent me $150. I've drawn three $60 images for you (at a cost of $180). I'm calling that even. I don't want any more money from you, just an address where I can send this artwork.
WTF
#1 why throw it in my face that you gave me a discount when I didnt ask for one.
#2 in our first email he said "I hope that you'll find me to be an easy and open artist with whom to work. Unless you just want to give me characters as subject matter and let me "do my thing." As long as you trust me (based on the quality and content of my previous work), I'm fine with that, too."
I sent him back an email yesterday stating how unprofessonal he was acting and that I just wanted a refund that I did not want any of the pieces from him if he was going to act like this.. Today I find the Catwoman,Harley and Batgirl all on ebay and NO refund for me so he is selling the pieces and keeping my deposit.... WTF how professional is that....
here is the first Ivy I refused
here is the 2nd that all I said need was her pose was not quite right..
