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Originally Posted by OrangeCrush
I haven't seen a single person on this forum state that they only collect prints for the edition size alone. Maybe I am wrong but I couldn't find anyone on this forum making such a statement. Releasing too large an edition size does destroy any chance a particular print has at being valuable and there are a LOT of people out there that factor value into their collecting hobbies. Its actually a fairly easy thing to understand, regardless of whether you agree with it or not. The vast majority of collectors factor value into their purchases. All one has to do is look at where the markets are today to see that value has become one of the driving factors in all collecting markets.
As for myself, I have always been attracted to rare items and not because they are valuable. I am attracted to rare items because they are rare. Its really that simple. Value plays a very small role in regards to my collecting hobbies, with coins and precious metals being the exceptions. In regards to prints, I have no interest in open edition prints, regardless of whether or not I like the artwork. I only collect limited edition prints and I only collect limited prints that are released with proper edition sizes. Its that simple. Some people understand it and some don't. I guess that's life.
Artwork and collecting - You really cant get more subjective. People should remember that when discussing these topics.
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I think that if you look back over your posts you sort of come across as a bit contradictory which is probably why people say what they do in response to your posts.
Case in point:
1) you state that no one mentions collecting based on edition size yet your post below IMO suggests that this is exactly what you are doing on this particular occassion with the saloon print
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Originally Posted by OrangeCrush
500 copies? Oh man, what a shame! 250 is bad enough on some of the newer prints. 500 is nothing short of a travesty. I love this print and was planning on buying at least 3 copies. If it really has an edition size of 500, then I am passing altogether. I just cant put my support behind such a money grab, regardless of how much I like the print.
What a bummer!
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2). I can't speak for others but your posts also sorta comes across as though you're the oracle of all things relating to print collecting. When you make such bold statements, particluarly in relation to something like this, which as you pointed out is subjective matter, you're sort of inviting people to make comments back questioning what you've written.
Case in point: you make statements as though they are fact when you've suggested to others that they should remember we're talking about subjective matters...
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Originally Posted by OrangeCrush
I have been in this market long enough to know money grabbing when I see it and this is without question money grabbing. If you want to believe differently than by all means, have some more of that Aspen Kool-Aid.
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3). Despite the above I still don't understand or agree with your reasoning. I asked you why it is money grabbing and you quote back a bunch of print run sizes....
So, therefore high print runs = money grabbing right? I guess the oxford dictionary needs to update their definitions.
I also never once inferred that I thought the market size had increased, just that you calling a company money grabbers makes no contextual sense. In a normal logical sense, yeah sure they are 'grabbing' money because if they sell more then they'll get more money coming in but the way you're stating it implies that they're doing something underhand / out of line.
With regards to print run sizes, perhaps they are trying to reach a new audience and have upped their prints runs. Just because it doesn't fit in with your collecting style i.e. only buying something that is rare doesn't make it underhand business. As Aspen gets more and more popular they're only ever going to increase runs with the odd exception so you'd best get used to being disappointed.
The only thing I see that they could do better with higher print runs is maybe to try pass on better prices, other than that good on them. If they sell more then congratulations, I'm happy for them to do well.
Maybe you should email them again and ask them to make all their print runs 20 or less then you'd get what you want and they'd go out of business.
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