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View Poll Results: Who Would Win: Doctor Doom vs. Darth Vader
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Doctor Doom
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59.38% |
Darth Vader
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40.63% |
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09-17-2015, 11:08 PM
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Columnist Thunder Mod
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Doctor Doom vs. Darth Vader
Most know that Kirby's Doctor Doom was the visual inspiration for Lucas' Darth Vader. Who you got to win a battle between these two?
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09-18-2015, 04:40 PM
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Rescue
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Going with Doom. Reed's level of intellect plus Dr. Strange level of magic expertise.
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09-18-2015, 08:13 PM
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Columnist Thunder Mod
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I would think control over The Force, which I equate to the Power Cosmic (like The Silver Surfer) would give Vader the edge and the win.
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09-18-2015, 09:00 PM
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Jedi Order
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Doom is definitely adept in the mystic arts but he doesn't have Dr. Strange level of sorcery.
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09-27-2015, 11:01 AM
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Teen Titans
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wktf
I would think control over The Force, which I equate to the Power Cosmic (like The Silver Surfer) would give Vader the edge and the win.
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I always equated the Force much more to telekinesis and less the power cosmic. Surfers control of the power cosmic reaches the absurd, sometimes equaling matter manipulation. I don't think the Force can do that. But I'm also not up to date on Star Wars outside of the movies.
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10-02-2015, 04:25 PM
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Iron Man
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Power vs. power, I think Vader would win. But it's the Reed-level intellect that throws the wrench into this. Vader is cunning, but he's no genius (I mean, he searched throughout the galaxy for remaining Jedi, but never thought to do an intergalactic phone-book search for anyone named "Kenobi"?). Doom is, and that could give him the edge.
Of course, Doom is also apt to make mistakes due to his massive ego, so there's that, too. And I'd say that the Force is a lot more than just TK, or even mental disciplines as a whole (they include but are not limited to the psi-powers, for sure--I mean, TK, telepathy, mind control, etc, sure--but a lot more too--and the Force Choke alone might be something for which Doom has no counter).
In the end, I'd give the win to Vader, but I'm positive that this could be written either way, and would make complete sense to me.
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10-02-2015, 08:34 PM
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Rescue
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Doom's strongest asset is his mind and will power. I would not be surprised if he could tap into the Force
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10-03-2015, 05:15 AM
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Mod Assassin
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He also hired a bunch of guys who couldn't shoot straight
Quote:
Originally Posted by Teague
Power vs. power, I think Vader would win. But it's the Reed-level intellect that throws the wrench into this. Vader is cunning, but he's no genius (I mean, he searched throughout the galaxy for remaining Jedi, but never thought to do an intergalactic phone-book search for anyone named "Kenobi"?). Doom is, and that could give him the edge.
Of course, Doom is also apt to make mistakes due to his massive ego, so there's that, too. And I'd say that the Force is a lot more than just TK, or even mental disciplines as a whole (they include but are not limited to the psi-powers, for sure--I mean, TK, telepathy, mind control, etc, sure--but a lot more too--and the Force Choke alone might be something for which Doom has no counter).
In the end, I'd give the win to Vader, but I'm positive that this could be written either way, and would make complete sense to me.
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10-09-2015, 07:02 PM
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Give me ambiguity or give me something else.
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Doom.
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10-13-2015, 08:47 PM
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Give me ambiguity or give me something else.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thor57
I always equated the Force much more to telekinesis and less the power cosmic. Surfers control of the power cosmic reaches the absurd, sometimes equaling matter manipulation. I don't think the Force can do that. But I'm also not up to date on Star Wars outside of the movies.
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This, I found the Force to be a little overrated.
Vader would think that is fighting Doom and suddenly get whacked by the real Doom from behind, like what happen to all those Jedis in Episode 3.
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