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11-11-2016, 02:06 PM
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#541
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"Revenge is a Dish Best Served Cold"
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Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by adee
What demand? You can go get an XM Thanos for that price right now and have a much better chance of the statue retaining it's value because far less exist. Right now SS is trying to have their cake and eat it too.
The idea that edition size should play no part in the final cost of a 'limited edition collectable' is crazy.
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Oh come on, you really think they don't have demand? You think these magically sell out?
You think DCC sells 5k of a Green Arrow statue or a Cyborg statue and it's because there's no demand?
The Idea that edition size is what drives sales on these is nuts. People buy them because comic lovers like to own them, and there are literally thousands and thousands of people who like comics, and movies, and games etc. etc.
So as long as "Limited edition collectible" still means "Hey we're only going to make so many of these and then stop and oh by the way you can add these to the others we made" then yes, Edition Size has a role, just not what you think it is.
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11-11-2016, 02:09 PM
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#542
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Green Arrow
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: NY
Posts: 10,435
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Originally Posted by Josh-a-tron
Oh come on, you really think they don't have demand? You think these magically sell out?
You think DCC sells 5k of a Green Arrow statue or a Cyborg statue and it's because there's no demand?
The Idea that edition size is what drives sales on these is nuts. People buy them because comic lovers like to own them, and there are literally thousands and thousands of people who like comics, and movies, and games etc. etc.
So as long as "Limited edition collectible" still means "Hey we're only going to make so many of these and then stop and oh by the way you can add these to the others we made" then yes, Edition Size has a role, just not what you think it is.
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Yeah well if SS thinks they can charge the same amount of money and have triple the ES I wish them the best of luck on that.
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11-11-2016, 02:10 PM
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#543
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Alpha Flight
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Farmington Hills, MI & La Fortuna, Costa Rica
Posts: 4,525
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh-a-tron
Oh come on, you really think they don't have demand? You think these magically sell out?
You think DCC sells 5k of a Green Arrow statue or a Cyborg statue and it's because there's no demand?
The Idea that edition size is what drives sales on these is nuts. People buy them because comic lovers like to own them, and there are literally thousands and thousands of people who like comics, and movies, and games etc. etc.
So as long as "Limited edition collectible" still means "Hey we're only going to make so many of these and then stop and oh by the way you can add these to the others we made" then yes, Edition Size has a role, just not what you think it is.
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Agreed. No doubt there are some collectors who only buy limited editions if the ES is low, but people are SEVERELY overestimating the overall roll edition sizes play in this industry. Sideshow sales over the last 2 years prove that unequivocally.
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Originally Posted by adee
Yeah well if SS thinks they can charge the same amount of money and have triple the ES I wish them the best of luck on that.
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They already have tripled the edition size on many pieces. In fact, many pieces go WELL BEYOND tripling the ES. Just look at the Wonder Woman PF. It had a total edition size of 9500. And all it takes is a quick look at Sideshow's sales over the last couple of years to see that its had zero negative effect on sales. In fact, its quite the contrary as sales have continued to rise and rise even in spite of much larger edition sizes and higher prices. So there is really no need to wish them luck. Thier already succeeding.
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11-11-2016, 02:27 PM
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#544
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Green Arrow
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: NY
Posts: 10,435
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Originally Posted by OrangeCrush
They already have tripled the edition size on many pieces. In fact, many pieces go WELL BEYOND tripling the ES. Just look at the Wonder Woman PF. It had a total edition size of 9500. And all it takes is a quick look at Sideshow's sales over the last couple of years to see that its had zero negative effect on sales. In fact, its quite the contrary as sales have continued to rise and rise even in spite of much larger edition sizes and higher prices. So there is really no need to wish them luck. Thier already succeeding.
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Maybe Thanos and Deadpool will have very low runs and become uber grails. Personally I'm not paying that kinda money with TBD editions when there's a good chance I can get it later for less.
You guys are arguing supply vs demand and what I'm saying is they are killing the demand by out pricing us while increasing the supply.
...also note that I'm taking this stance more on Deadpool than Thanos. I need to see Thanos first.
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11-11-2016, 02:48 PM
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#545
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Kindly Asked To Leave
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 90
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Originally Posted by Josh-a-tron
Yes because "the in thing" is why people buy Comic book based statues like Black Cat at $500 a piece.
Thanos is a huge character, people love him, and some people will pay to get him in their collection.
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"some" aka barely any based on replies and the Deadpool poll.
SSC has made it clear they are going for the casual buyer.... if we, who complain on a forum and in a majority vote we won't pay $700.... why would a casual buyer pay $700... or $1200 for Thanos?
You would be wrong to misplace popularity as an indicator for reasons to buy... aka the "in" thing. Popularity/ the "in" thing, is the whole reason SSC even makes a piece. If not, where is the Howard the Duck PF. People love him and he is based on a comic book?
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11-11-2016, 03:39 PM
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#546
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"Revenge is a Dish Best Served Cold"
Sculptor
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Florida
Posts: 7,112
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Originally Posted by Marcus Fenix
"some" aka barely any based on replies and the Deadpool poll.
SSC has made it clear they are going for the casual buyer.... if we, who complain on a forum and in a majority vote we won't pay $700.... why would a casual buyer pay $700... or $1200 for Thanos?
You would be wrong to misplace popularity as an indicator for reasons to buy... aka the "in" thing. Popularity/ the "in" thing, is the whole reason SSC even makes a piece. If not, where is the Howard the Duck PF. People love him and he is based on a comic book?
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Howard the Duck was never that big in comics, however you do see a ton of people buying Angela, Captain Marvel. Hell some people are paying $1200 for that XM Darkness statue. None of these characters are in the general publics conciousness but they still sell and at high prices.
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11-11-2016, 03:58 PM
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#547
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Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 640
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Quote:
Originally Posted by adee
What demand? You can go get an XM Thanos for that price right now and have a much better chance of the statue retaining it's value because far less exist. Right now SS is trying to have their cake and eat it too.
The idea that edition size should play no part in the final cost of a 'limited edition collectable' is crazy.
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Exactly! Now be prepared for the"I collect for the love of the hobby, ES does not matter" crowd to respond.
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11-11-2016, 04:05 PM
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#548
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Hydra
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 952
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Originally Posted by newe82
Exactly! Now be prepared for the"I collect for the love of the hobby, ES does not matter" crowd to respond.
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ES doesn't matter, I collect for the love of the hobby.
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11-11-2016, 04:34 PM
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#549
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Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 640
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pokritz17
ES doesn't matter, I collect for the love of the hobby.
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There it is Thank You. I was getting worried I had mispoke
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11-13-2016, 07:19 AM
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#550
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The quickest way to double your money is to fold it in half and put it back in your pocket.
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Meow-verse
Posts: 1,423
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why is it so hard to get a prototype picture?
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