DC Rebirth Already Spoiled

[ReplicantSavior]

I don't trust any reviews that come from sites that were prevented from posting reviews before a certain date. Those are always the sponsored or basically advertisement paid reviews. So pretty much all the major comic sites that are now releasing reviews since the details of the issue have leaked. It's not surprising to me that those reviews are all high as well.

DC could have used any character, they could have come up with a new character. I'm surprised that they even used the name "rebirth" for this. When they could have called it what it is. More a DC Combination.

[VaultMan]

Wow. That seems complex. Not sure how I feel about the Watchmen being in the DCU proper. Creative, but not sure how I feel about it.

Here come the Batman/Rorshach team ups!! *groannnnn*

[jpuli28]

So I read Before Watchmen Dr Manhattan #4, my interpretation was...

Spoiler

John flees the planet to create another planet or race and concludes the story with hopes of being amazing... together

[Pyrotwilight]

Whoo boy. The issue in of itself is fun but the Watchmen use gets a little too meta

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It's implied and all but said that Dr. Manhattan has been subtly altering DC's reality as far back at COIE at times that the universe is weaker. With Flashpoint being his biggest alteration. And he's the reason the DCU has gotten darker overall since COIE.

He also murders Pandora in a scene straight out of Rorschach's death. (Booooo)

So yes...DC is blaming the DCU being dark...on Watchmen...characters DC made Alan Moore make....and are legally holding hostage from him.

Oy.

DC seems to be completely missing the point that Dr. Manhattan and the other Watchmen characters are not VILLAINS.

[THECLOWN KNIGHT]

R.I.P. DC, thanks for the memories.

[kal-el]

i must be the only one who liked this. I have bad mouthed DC since Flashpoint. I hated the New 52 and thought it was a joke , which it was. I enjoyed this issue. I will admit I am a huge Wally west fan and enjoyed his series for years. I was so disappointed with what they did to him and now at least Geoff Johns has brought him back. This enough would make me love it but with the killing off of the fake Superman and bringing back the REAL Superman and other beats the book was really solid. If only Geoff Johns could write everything but alas he can not. I'm sure the books will still be average but at least with this book I feel a sense of hope for the future of the DC Universe which I haven't felt in 5+years.

[joefixit2]

I have no stake in the game since I don't buy any DC books right now but I am not liking the Watchmen in the DC universe thing. It was a stand alone epic story, leave it as that.

[Marvelito]

I also liked this book and feel like it promises some nice returns to the DC of the past. Dr. Manhattan is being labeled an antagonist but not a villain, according to Johns. I am not really sure what exactly is going to happen, but this book has me interested in seeing more. While I did follow the New 52 to some degree, and even enjoyed some of it, it never truly felt like the old DC. In a way I get the sense that what they are trying to achieve is sort of like what Waid did with Daredevil, he didn't throw anything out but pointed Matt in a more positive, less tragic direction. I think by making the Watchmen tie-in as the antagonists they are sort of trying to take DC back to the days before Watchmen, COIE, TDKR which is when DC started to take a darker turn in storytelling. I think they will try to put more emphasis on the "hero" part of superhero, and get away from conflicted and brooding characters.

[Babytoxie]

Originally Posted by Pyrotwilight

Whoo boy. The issue in of itself is fun but the Watchmen use gets a little too meta

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Regarding your spoiler, didn't Infinite Crisis already establish that Superboy Prime was responsible for this?

[CessnaDriver]

Let me know when the shorts are back on Bats and Supes.