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View Poll Results: In what condition did your Scorpion Statue arrive ?
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My Scorpion Statue was fine
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24.66% |
My Scorpion Statue had flaws/breakage but I did not report to Sideshow
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My Scorpion Statue had flaws/breakage and I reported to Sideshow
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43.84% |
I have not checked my Scorpion Statue yet
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17.81% |
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05-08-2012, 09:37 AM
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#51
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Have you ever imagined a world with no hypothetical situations?
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: The BUCKEYE State
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Originally Posted by Bruticus
so 30 reported brooken statues of 700 is alot...?
I fully understand the baisic of mathematics and statistic is hard for most ppl to grasp....youll learn eventually.
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Honestly, the only thing worse than your grasp of statistics is your grammar, but that's not what we're really here to discuss.
You threw out the ridiculous stats but failed to explain why you think the 50 or so recieved by members here seem to be damaged at a rate of 2 out of 3 but somehow the other 650 or so in the ES that we don't know about will somehow miraculously be perfect. I would love to hear your theories on how that will happen. Guess the members of SF just got a bad batch, huh?
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05-08-2012, 09:58 AM
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#52
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Kindly Asked To Leave
Join Date: Jan 2012
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Originally Posted by Bruticus
Since we are toying with statistics then one can do like this. If I assume that these are the only ones damaged then we have 29 damage pieaces of 700 about 4.1% and a whooping 95.9 % that are fine. Even if I dubbble the damaged ammount it would still not reach 10% and the pieces that were fine would be over 90%.
Therefore putting in % and adding it to this thread like you do cause noting more then fule to te fire. The statistics looks bad if you do it the way you do it and since you only know about 43 in total of all 700 pieces (ex +reg) your post means little.
Statistics can be changed, pointed, improved to get the result you want. This is such a small isolated communety were not even 10% are acounted for and therefore you can not give a clear % of how good/bad the damaged ratio is.
So in both PCS, Sideshow, GG or whatever, dont toss % around like this because it adds nothing , unless you have a bigger set numbers, in a case like this with 700 pieces, you need atleast 150-200 to get a correct estimated results.
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05-08-2012, 10:13 AM
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#53
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Look out for #1. Don't step in #2 either.
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Originally Posted by biglebowski9999
Honestly, the only thing worse than your grasp of statistics is your grammar, but that's not what we're really here to discuss.
You threw out the ridiculous stats but failed to explain why you think the 50 or so recieved by members here seem to be damaged at a rate of 2 out of 3 but somehow the other 650 or so in the ES that we don't know about will somehow miraculously be perfect. I would love to hear your theories on how that will happen. Guess the members of SF just got a bad batch, huh?
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No need to be rude, lets please keep it civilized.
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05-08-2012, 10:31 AM
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#54
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Have you ever imagined a world with no hypothetical situations?
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: The BUCKEYE State
Posts: 9,924
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Thanks for keeping an eye on the kids there, Dad, but he pretty much started it with this comment:
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Originally Posted by Bruticus
I fully understand the baisic of mathematics and statistic is hard for most ppl to grasp....youll learn eventually.
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So you can go play pretend-Mod in another thread now.
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05-08-2012, 11:01 AM
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#55
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Jedi Order
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 26,259
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biglebowski9999
Honestly, the only thing worse than your grasp of statistics is your grammar, but that's not what we're really here to discuss.
You threw out the ridiculous stats but failed to explain why you think the 50 or so recieved by members here seem to be damaged at a rate of 2 out of 3 but somehow the other 650 or so in the ES that we don't know about will somehow miraculously be perfect. I would love to hear your theories on how that will happen. Guess the members of SF just got a bad batch, huh?
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Originally Posted by biglebowski9999
Thanks for keeping an eye on the kids there, Dad, but he pretty much started it with this comment:
So you can go play pretend-Mod in another thread now.
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You said EXACTLY what I was thinking!!! Excellent posts!
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05-08-2012, 12:51 PM
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#56
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Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: a distant planet
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With all due respect Braticus, it seems like there are some flaws in your statements:
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Originally Posted by Bruticus
Since we are toying with statistics then one can do like this. If I assume that these are the only ones damaged then we have 29 damage pieaces of 700 about 4.1% and a whooping 95.9 % that are fine. Even if I dubbble the damaged ammount it would still not reach 10% and the pieces that were fine would be over 90%.
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First off, the poll results are not based on assumptions but rather actual reported answers. So when you assumed away all the possibilities of additonal damaged piece, you are no longer working with statistics.
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Originally Posted by Bruticus
Therefore putting in % and adding it to this thread like you do cause noting more then fule to te fire. The statistics looks bad if you do it the way you do it and since you only know about 43 in total of all 700 pieces (ex +reg) your post means little.
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Percentage were obtained from the polls and thus do have significant meaning. We only know for certain that 32 out of the 54 total statues came in with flaws. We do not know, and cannot say for sure, what the other 646pcs are going to turn out like. But statistically, this sample size thus far is telling us that with 95% confidence, we can be sure that the percentage of damaged statues willl be 59.26% +/- 13% (margin of error). That's still a range of 46.26% to 72.26% for damaged statues. You can run the numbers here if you like to see for yourself:
http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm
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Originally Posted by Bruticus
Statistics can be changed, pointed, improved to get the result you want. This is such a small isolated communety were not even 10% are acounted for and therefore you can not give a clear % of how good/bad the damaged ratio is.
So in both PCS, Sideshow, GG or whatever, dont toss % around like this because it adds nothing , unless you have a bigger set numbers, in a case like this with 700 pieces, you need atleast 150-200 to get a correct estimated results.
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Not sure how you came up with the 150-200 pieces to get a correct estimate. Statistically, as sample size get smaller, the margin of error gets larger. But that does not mean we cannot take the sample given and run it statistically to get meaningful results. Keep in mind that these statues are sent out randomly to forum members from various parts of the world. I am sure from a business standpoint that Jerry made this poll for a reason. If these numbers obtain from the poll is not a representation of the entire population of the statue, then there would be no reason to start this poll.
Just my 2 cents.
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05-08-2012, 01:32 PM
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#57
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The Enchantress
Join Date: May 2008
Location: caught somewhere in time
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Ah, statistics. Bringing people together.
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05-08-2012, 02:11 PM
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#58
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Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
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Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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05-08-2012, 02:55 PM
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#59
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100,000 sperm and you were the fastest?
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Ewa Beach, Hawaii
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You know all this hilarious fussing, and stats could have been avoided by just stating the amount reported broken to sideshow. Then no one would have had to guess or use math(which makes my head hurt) at all.
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05-08-2012, 03:42 PM
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#60
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The Maxx
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 9,268
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Have some bad news to report. I checked my skull head this morning and found the black paint around his neck flaking off. Theirs cracks running all along the back and front, it's only a matter of time before it gets worse.
So far I haven't seen any issues on the statue itself or the other heads. But this does make me nervous now, wondering if in the near future the paint on the statue will start to peal and flake.
Chris
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