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Old 12-24-2012, 12:23 PM   #1
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Another Christmas shooting.....

http://news.yahoo.com/firefighters-s...opstories.html


When will the senseless killing end? Firefighters are now a target. People trying to help the community are now going to need an armed escort or FFs will need to have one guy on the truck carrying.
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:39 PM   #2
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Unfortunately, these types of incidents will never end completely.
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Old 12-24-2012, 02:41 PM   #3
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how many will it take for the US to finally wake up and enforce tougher gun laws...

when the people who risk their lives for you aren't even safe anymore...

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Old 12-24-2012, 03:06 PM   #4
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how many will it take for the US to finally wake up and enforce tougher gun laws...

when the people who risk their lives for you aren't even safe anymore...

RIP
Amen to that...
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Old 12-24-2012, 03:47 PM   #5
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how many will it take for the US to finally wake up and enforce tougher gun laws...

when the people who risk their lives for you aren't even safe anymore...

RIP

Tougher gun laws? 10-1 says this scumbag had an illegal gun.

I agree that there should be better background checks on potential gun buyers and possibly the people living with them. I know that I have every intention of purchasing a few more guns for home protection and just to shoot at the range. Normal citizens that are responsible have little to worry about in regards to the checks.
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Old 12-24-2012, 03:52 PM   #6
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Unfortunately I think we will see more of these type of acts. There are MILLIONS of people unemployed/underemployed and frustrated. Acts of desperation.
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Old 12-24-2012, 04:59 PM   #7
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This guy beat his grandmother to death with a hammer, and was let out of prison.
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Old 12-24-2012, 05:03 PM   #8
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Tougher gun laws? 10-1 says this scumbag had an illegal gun.

I agree that there should be better background checks on potential gun buyers and possibly the people living with them. I know that I have every intention of purchasing a few more guns for home protection and just to shoot at the range. Normal citizens that are responsible have little to worry about in regards to the checks.
by tougher gun laws I guess I meant more along the lines of "When is the USA going to wake up and realize that every man, woman and child does not have to be armed 24/7?"

I know the country has a right to bear arms (or a right to arm bears...one of those) but when does it stop?

What percentage of Americans have a gun in their house? Check the same stat for Canadians. Significantly lower on Canada's side and significantly less violence (although it still happens occasionally).

While cops in Canada put their lives on the line each day, they aren't fearing for their lives with every call they take. They can do a routine traffic stop without thinking they're about to get shot.

On my honeymoon this past August, my wife and I were in St Lucia. We met a young couple from Texas on one of our day trips. 99% of the time they opened their mouths it was about how many guns they have and how they will happily shoot someone dead if they step foot on their property.

On a trip to Florida the year before, we met a couple from New York who sleep with a gun on their bedside table.

So ultimately, what I mean is...where does it end?

A few days ago it was a classroom full of kids, yesterday it was a firefighter...what will it take to realize that the biggest problem in the US isn't that there isn't enough protection, but that the sheer quantity of the weapons is the problem. When you put a gun (legal or illegal) in every citizen's hands, it'll never lead to anything positive.

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Old 12-24-2012, 05:14 PM   #9
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by tougher gun laws I guess I meant more along the lines of "When is the USA going to wake up and realize that every man, woman and child does not have to be armed 24/7?"

I know the country has a right to bear arms (or a right to arm bears...one of those) but when does it stop?

What percentage of Americans have a gun in their house? Check the same stat for Canadians. Significantly lower on Canada's side and significantly less violence (although it still happens occasionally).

While cops in Canada put their lives on the line each day, they aren't fearing for their lives with every call they take. They can do a routine traffic stop without thinking they're about to get shot.

On my honeymoon this past August, my wife and I were in St Lucia. We met a young couple from Texas on one of our day trips. 99% of the time they opened their mouths it was about how many guns they have and how they will happily shoot someone dead if they step foot on their property.

On a trip to Florida the year before, we met a couple from New York who sleep with a gun on their bedside table.

So ultimately, what I mean is...where does it end?

A few days ago it was a classroom full of kids, yesterday it was a firefighter...what will it take to realize that the biggest problem in the US isn't that there isn't enough protection, but that the sheer quantity of the weapons is the problem. When you put a gun (legal or illegal) in every citizen's hands, it'll never lead to anything positive.


Too late for gun bans to work. That train left a hundred years ago or more.
You can't stop bad people from getting guns, but you CAN stop bad people with a gun.

The recent Oregon mall murderer encountered a law abiding concealed carry citizen and this very likely ended his spree.

These kooks always seem to end their own life upon encountering those that will do it for them.

Notice they never go after police stations or gun stores.
The go to the "gun free zones" or free murder zones if you ask me.

Stop blaming inanimate objects. We will never solve the problems that way.


Guns protect all kinds of people everyday, including many of those that wish to take them from the rest of us.
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Old 12-24-2012, 05:44 PM   #10
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I haven't looked at the particulars of Canada's gun laws since I gave up my own firearms in 2008, but I would expect them to be not terribly different from the laws in NY.

As such, it isn't gun control that reduces these types of incidents in Canada.
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