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Old 09-25-2023, 07:05 PM   #51
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I will say, i had concerns about the strength of it as well. I have layed over the 40kg recommended on it with no issues to test. If someone did know of an addition modification/support that could be added id be interested tho.
i am getting some metal rods made that will fit into the rail opening at desired height, so even if the "sliding nut" loses the friction grip, the metal rod below it will hold it up. Just for peace of mind. The positive i think is even if the nut became loose, it won't just crash down, but move slowly downward over time.

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Anyway this installation is nothing but frustration, and i love installing furnitures like the ikea stuff. There is absolutely no reason to make it this difficult, for example to install the shelves on the vertical DF130, there is no markers at all, you have to line up the 4 sides at exact height while using a level ruler and screw in all 4 corners holding the shelf. Why not just pre-drill some god damn holes onto the vertical rail or print a ruler on it so you know exactly where to screw in the shelf holders. i can understand if this is a $500 ikea piece but i paid $1600 for a 48" wide cabinet...never again.

Should just paid few hundred more and gotten another restoration hardware cabinet (stupidly left it in the old house for the new buyer), 1-2 weeks white glove delivery/installation, solid wood, and installing/moving the shelves is simply lift it up and put it onto the desired height teeth opening. loses 5 inches depth, gain ~8 inches height.
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Old 09-25-2023, 07:26 PM   #52
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These stories are really concerning for someone considering moducase. Can I ask, did you order the weight enhancement for your cases or does it come included/ not applicable? As the DF120s for example need that add on to support upto 30kg.

Does anyone know if your drawer issue is a common thing? As I've seen nobody complain about that in the past - maybe this is an issue with the white/ silver frame options?

Please keep us updated of your progress, is very useful
1) I think i am the only idiot who bought the riser with drawers, so doubt you will get much feedback. I would say if you really want the riser, get it without the drawer.

2) I got the weight enhancement bars, but it's main purpose is to support the base mdf board, which is very unlikely to break because well it's mdf and looks thick/solid.

The main concern is not the base mdf board, but that it rests on the steel frame, and the frame itself is secured via friction not physical connection. It's a really baffling choice why they done it this way.

The whole structure is dependent on the washer between the screw and the metal frame to secure it by friction. So if you stack 3 standard DF60 on top of each other, first one is fine because the floor supports the base frame even if the screws lose friction. But the 2nd/3rd one, if the screws lose friction, the weight will then transfer to the upper frame of the below box, and if that gives out, then it starts to pancake. I am sure there are some dudes out there who forgot to put in the washer in between the screw and frame...

See photo if it makes it clearer, make sure the washer is installed always, 100% fit in the little opening not outside, and secure tight especially for the bottom part of the frame where it will bear the weight, that's the only thing holding up the base/ all the weight at the bottom.

Maybe it's all worry over nothing and i just suck at understanding physics, but never hurts to be careful.
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Old 09-25-2023, 07:40 PM   #53
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Should just paid few hundred more and gotten another restoration hardware cabinet (stupidly left it in the old house for the new buyer)
Out of curiosity, what RH cabinet did you use previously?
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Old 09-25-2023, 11:34 PM   #54
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1) I think i am the only idiot who bought the riser with drawers, so doubt you will get much feedback. I would say if you really want the riser, get it without the drawer.

2) I got the weight enhancement bars, but it's main purpose is to support the base mdf board, which is very unlikely to break because well it's mdf and looks thick/solid.

The main concern is not the base mdf board, but that it rests on the steel frame, and the frame itself is secured via friction not physical connection. It's a really baffling choice why they done it this way.

The whole structure is dependent on the washer between the screw and the metal frame to secure it by friction. So if you stack 3 standard DF60 on top of each other, first one is fine because the floor supports the base frame even if the screws lose friction. But the 2nd/3rd one, if the screws lose friction, the weight will then transfer to the upper frame of the below box, and if that gives out, then it starts to pancake. I am sure there are some dudes out there who forgot to put in the washer in between the screw and frame...

See photo if it makes it clearer, make sure the washer is installed always, 100% fit in the little opening not outside, and secure tight especially for the bottom part of the frame where it will bear the weight, that's the only thing holding up the base/ all the weight at the bottom.

Maybe it's all worry over nothing and i just suck at understanding physics, but never hurts to be careful.
Maybe the DF in person is a different but the MAX units I've built so far seem really sturdy to me. I trust my statues in these at three units tall. I did notice however that even when tightening (washers in the right spot) that joints have loosened a bit after picking up the cubes and moving them around. Nothing substantial, however noticable. Maybe they really just need the weight of statues to hold the joints in place.

Idk. Totally understand the concern but with what I've seen so far I trust it. I do think my wood shelving unit may have been sightly more sturdy but that thing was drilled into the studs of my walls. I'm honestly glad I don't have to connect these to my walls though.

Maybe you can do some testing on your end for a week or so before loading it with statues if you're worried.
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Old 09-26-2023, 05:50 AM   #55
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I have cases from both the DF series as well as the MAX series. The structural framing of the MAX cases is twice the size of the DF cases.

When I received the DF cases, I thought they looked weak to hold 1/4th statues so I reinforced them with solid oak bases and made sure they were tied together to give the smaller framing extra support.

I was was blown away by my first MAX case, once assembled it's solid as a rock, IMO. Easily the way to go for 1/4th - 1/3rd statues.
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Old 09-26-2023, 04:02 PM   #56
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1) I think i am the only idiot who bought the riser with drawers, so doubt you will get much feedback. I would say if you really want the riser, get it without the drawer.

2) I got the weight enhancement bars, but it's main purpose is to support the base mdf board, which is very unlikely to break because well it's mdf and looks thick/solid.

The main concern is not the base mdf board, but that it rests on the steel frame, and the frame itself is secured via friction not physical connection. It's a really baffling choice why they done it this way.

The whole structure is dependent on the washer between the screw and the metal frame to secure it by friction. So if you stack 3 standard DF60 on top of each other, first one is fine because the floor supports the base frame even if the screws lose friction. But the 2nd/3rd one, if the screws lose friction, the weight will then transfer to the upper frame of the below box, and if that gives out, then it starts to pancake. I am sure there are some dudes out there who forgot to put in the washer in between the screw and frame...

See photo if it makes it clearer, make sure the washer is installed always, 100% fit in the little opening not outside, and secure tight especially for the bottom part of the frame where it will bear the weight, that's the only thing holding up the base/ all the weight at the bottom.

Maybe it's all worry over nothing and i just suck at understanding physics, but never hurts to be careful.
I was thinking of getting risers with the drawer for my DFs, why would you recommend getting standard vs drawer riser? Is the drawer poorly built?
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Old 09-27-2023, 01:28 AM   #57
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yeah regretting not getting max, looks like it's more sturdy from what you guys are saying. Also the extra 5 inches height for the horizontal one really helps, my regular df is only around 24 inches height, many 1/4 i have doesn't fit like the hulk very poor planning on my part. Had this vision of having iron man in the middle, then one side all movie avengers, other side their corresponding comic avengers. But the thing turned out way too small and not enough height.


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I was thinking of getting risers with the drawer for my DFs, why would you recommend getting standard vs drawer riser? Is the drawer poorly built?
yes it squeaks, i had to drill and reposition the drawer rail multiple times so it aligns properly, also for the extra $$ are you really that desperate for those 2 drawer spaces.

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Out of curiosity, what RH cabinet did you use previously?
see photo, cant find one with statues in them but they huge, RH site has tons variations, i was able to fit an entire avenger 1/4 line up on 1 level. Paid around 2k for it. Looking back, was real stupid not asking the mover to bring it, thought it was too much of hassle to move. Note the shelf teeth and how easy it is to move the shelves and 100% secure on solid wood.
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Old 09-27-2023, 08:29 AM   #58
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see photo, cant find one with statues in them but they huge, RH site has tons variations, i was able to fit an entire avenger 1/4 line up on 1 level. Paid around 2k for it. Looking back, was real stupid not asking the mover to bring it, thought it was too much of hassle to move. Note the shelf teeth and how easy it is to move the shelves and 100% secure on solid wood.
Those type wood cabinets are beautiful, wish i had one. So much dust after 5-6 weeks when you have open shelves.
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Old 09-27-2023, 08:30 AM   #59
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I finally got my order in from April 2022 two weeks ago. I've taken my time building them just due to limited space and time. I have two max 140 and three max 70. Seeing the max 140 in person, it just feels so much bigger than just knowing the measurements.

I agree with most sentiments here, while great cases they are not without issue. My biggest complaint is probably building instructions. There is just no cohesiveness between the videos and pdf guides. They also changed how they package and ship them now apparently. In the past the front side shipped as a solid piece now you need to build that as well but its not covered in a lot of the instructions. Took me 4 hours to build my first max140. Probably half of that was pulling the damn cover off the acrylic though.
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