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Old 09-16-2020, 12:32 AM   #3671
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This is a long, ridiculously perpetuated rumor.

If they didnít want anything to do with Nightcrawler, he wouldnít be in the comics. They have plenty of power over the comics since that entire round of bull$hit when they changed Scarlet Witchís family history bc they didnít own the movie right back then. Making a statue is an ownership rights issue, thatís also why it took forever for another Rogue to be made.
But owned by who? There is nothing unusual about Nightcrawler as a Marvel or X-men character. Created by Wein and Cockrum as were tons of other commonly licensed characters like Colossus and Storm.

There is some reason that Nightcrawler is being excluded from licensing. Iron Studios is a glaring example that was a hard no when asked. Do you have a more specific answer? I will happily take one over a rumor that seems like a stupid reason.
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Old 09-16-2020, 03:02 AM   #3672
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Misney owns all the rights to Nightcrawler now (comics & film). There's no reason to hold back on the character anymore.
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Old 09-16-2020, 07:30 AM   #3673
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Over the past year or so Nightcrawler has been used in everything else. Iím not sure why he doesnít get statues but Marvel clearly has nothing against his exposure.



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Heís been one of the most visible and used mutants since Hickmanís run began last year. And heís on the Quiet Council at that.







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Old 09-16-2020, 07:37 AM   #3674
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And as far as his demonic appearance, it can’t be that either. For one, that’s an in story thing, he doesn’t look all that demonic compared to many other Marvel characters. And then you have Ghost Rider and his flaming head starring on Agents of Shield and in the main Avengers comic, and Helstrom, the Son of frickin Satan, has a whole TV show on the way. So I can’t see Marvel punishing Nightcrawler for his appearance. Especially since like I posted above, he’s used for anything else.
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Old 09-16-2020, 07:38 AM   #3675
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And as far as his demonic appearance, it canít be that either. For one, thatís an in story thing, he doesnít look all that demonic compared to many other Marvel characters. And then you have Ghost Rider and his flaming head starring on Agents of Shield and in the main Avengers comic, and Helstrom, the Son of frickin Satan, has a whole TV show on the way. So I canít see Marvel punishing Nightcrawler for his appearance. Especially since like I posted above, heís used for anything else.
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Old 09-16-2020, 10:30 AM   #3676
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Old 09-16-2020, 10:30 AM   #3677
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It all comes down to negotiation with Dave Cockrums wife, who they still need to pay for using the character, now that he's all over the place again, they may have worked something out cause Disney is wiling to pay.

She may still have statue approval rights, and statues take a while to get made so maybe we will see something next year or so.
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Old 09-16-2020, 11:23 AM   #3678
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Dave helped create Colossus, Storm, and even Black Cat. Sideshow released PFs of all those characters without issues. I don't see the problem in releasing a Nightcrawler PF. Does Dave own the rights to all those characters? I thought, back then, the company owned the rights to all the characters created by writers and artists. That was the whole reason Image Comics was formed in the '90s. So that creators could own the rights to the characters they created. If Rob Liefeld doesn't own the creative rights to Deadpool and Cable, how does Dave (or Patty since Dave died) own the rights to Nightcrawler? None of this makes sense.
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Old 09-16-2020, 12:04 PM   #3679
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They don't own the rights, but Marvel at the time i believe worked a deal so they had to pay them while using him in comics/merch/etc, makes sense or not Night crawler just falls under that one, probably the rest don't.

Besides it's boring to go over it, he's a big character if they are using him alot just a matter of time to get statues approved. Plus maybe there's other characters ahead of him right now to be made.
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Old 09-16-2020, 12:04 PM   #3680
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