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08-25-2017, 07:28 PM
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#2261
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S.H.I.E.L.D.
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Originally Posted by johnclone
It's funny how people don't even try to explain how some things could have happened. Like the chains, oh I don't know, maybe they are from a ship somewhere that got lost and stuck in the ice? Yeah, they are there because the writers needed something to pull the dragon out of the icy water. But it isn't hard to imagine where they could have come from. And as for the actual event of pulling out the dragon, couldn't that have happened weeks later, given plenty of time for some giants to go and fetch them from wherever this army stores their supplies and odd whatnots?
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EXACTLY my thought.
Big difference between potential plotholes, and information that just wasn't filmed/shown.
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08-26-2017, 07:16 PM
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#2262
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Gen 13
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Where the Sun doesn't shine
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Uncle Benjen
Uncle Benjen. I don't know if anyone asked this but how is it that he was at the right place at the right time? And this wasn't the first time either.
I don't think this is the last we've seen of him. I think he is a supernatural entity or something.
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnclone
It's funny how people don't even try to explain how some things could have happened. Like the chains, oh I don't know, maybe they are from a ship somewhere that got lost and stuck in the ice? Yeah, they are there because the writers needed something to pull the dragon out of the icy water. But it isn't hard to imagine where they could have come from. And as for the actual event of pulling out the dragon, couldn't that have happened weeks later, given plenty of time for some giants to go and fetch them from wherever this army stores their supplies and odd whatnots?
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I was thinking maybe the NK made the chains out of ice.
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08-26-2017, 08:53 PM
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#2263
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The Enchantress
Join Date: May 2008
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I'm not aware of any psychic links Benjen could have, so leaving that out, I think Benjen could have heard and seen all the commotion of battle from miles away, especially when the dragons showed up and started breathing fire. If it was a clear day he might have seen them from a very great distance, 10, 15, 20 miles away even. Since he has a horse he could easily cover large distances quickly.
As I understood it, he is sort of a wight, but sort of still a man. So basically he is a friendly zombie. I think this was his last hurrah. He went out a hero.
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08-26-2017, 10:28 PM
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#2264
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Cyclops
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Yeah, I think the writers have confirmed that was it for Benjen.
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08-27-2017, 05:38 PM
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#2265
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Hercules
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnclone
As I understood it, he is sort of a wight, but sort of still a man. So basically he is a friendly zombie. I think this was his last hurrah. He went out a hero.
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no he didn't he went out a moron and a horribly wasted character "there's no time" no time for what? takes half a second to get on a damn horse!
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08-27-2017, 06:06 PM
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The Enchantress
Join Date: May 2008
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Oh come on now, he probably stayed behind to make sure nobody followed after Jon, and most likely met his end doing so, and knew that was the plan all along. "You trying to be a hero Watkins? Just trying to kill some bugs sir!!!! GO!! GO! GOooooooaaaaeeeiirrrrrrhhhooo!!!!!!!!"
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08-27-2017, 06:42 PM
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#2267
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S.H.I.E.L.D.
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I'm not too hung up on that part. Those unfortunate scenes happen all the time due to writing or production constraints.
Yeah, maybe it's cutting them some slack, but a slight tweak makes it all right. E.g. put a few more CG wights in their immediate vicinity, or, keep the scene the same, but change Benjen's line from "there's no time" to "I'm already dead".
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08-27-2017, 06:48 PM
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#2268
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Hercules
Join Date: Aug 2005
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nope, stupid scene and an incredibly wasted character. now we'll never know what the hell was up with him, why he was beyond the damn wall for a decade how he was half a friggin zombie nope "there's no time" god it was awful, even worse than them killing Blackfish and Stannis off screen.
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08-27-2017, 07:55 PM
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#2269
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The Enchantress
Join Date: May 2008
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I think it had something to do with the tree fairies.
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